REVELATION - PRESS RELEASE

[jrnyman28]

I've heard it explained on this site as Journey didn't need any permission from Perry to perform his songs in concert,

Correct.

but that permission was needed, if they ever wanted to record those tracks in a studio.

For a time limit agreed on between Perry and Journey. But that is not normal. Journey should not have needed any "permission". Perry was very "smart" on that one.

In fact, I was told the 2001 DVD didn't need approval from Perry, because it was a live performance.

Absolutely false. First: Rumor has it that Journey had to give editorial rights to the BTM special to Perry in return for releasing Journey 2001. Second: Any time there is a visual matched to the audio than ALL writers must give permission to it's use.

Regardless of what agreement has expired, I don't believe that Journey "owns" any song that Perry wrote or co-wrote. The notion of that is simply ridiculous!

Not sure about that.

As far as I know, the writers of a song ALWAYS retain the rights to those songs (unless they sell them off). Heck, just on American Idol tonight, they performed all Beatles songs, and I read that they were trying to get permission from McCartney since their first season to perform those songs! McCartney, as a co-writer, was the one who had to give the permission, so I'm not sure why Perry wouldn't have to do the same thing.


John from Boston

Again, that is the case when there is anything visual with the material. I know it sounds a little weird but as soon as there is a visual representation accompanying the song than the writers must agree to allow it's use. It has something to do with how their art is being portrayed, not just how it is used. That is why music to ads and TV shows and movies must be agreed on by all parties.

[lights1961]

just not that excited...

[Marzdog]

Don't think for a moment that Azoff won't make a similar pitch on VH with Walmart.

I think that Azoff/Consolo went to Walmart with the new CD in mind much like the same management did with The Eagles, as a NEW CD ONLY. From there, as I said earlier, it wouldn't surprise me that the "idea" of re-recording the classics came from what REO did with Walmart, as Journey in their current state (without Perry), certainly isn't what The Eagles position is less Felder. So, being that they didn't think that a new Journey CD would do what a new Eagles CD would do, it is feasible that Walmart asked for a new "Greatest Hits" type package to push the CD much like they did with REO.

I'd go so far as to believe that this deal came about as more of a package deal for Azoff's "classic rock" contingent. Sure, each of the three bands has different $$ involved, but, when you stop and think of the pitch from Azoff to Walmart, it isn't far fetched..."Hey Walmart, how would you like to exclusively have The Eagles, Journey, and REO's new CD all to yourself and here is what we are prepared to do for you?"

I just can't picture one of WalMart's reps calling Journey's management out of the blue and asking, "Hey, would Journey be willing to re-record their greatist hits with a new singer and package it with a live Vegas DVD and a new CD of original music for us to market for you exclusively?" What I can picture is Journey's management putting the project idea together and successfully pitching it to WalMart as an exclusive deal. That seems much more probable, doesn't it?

[Andrew]

JOURNEY SET TO RELEASE ‘REVELATION’ JUNE 3 EXCLUSIVELY AT WAL-MART



March 11, 2008 -- A new chapter in the legendary career of multi-Platinum rockers JOURNEY--Neal Schon (guitar), Jonathan Cain (keyboards), Ross Valory (bass), Deen Castronovo (drums) and Arnel Pineda (vocals)—will begin on June 3 with the highly anticipated release of REVELATION, a three-disc CD and DVD package to be sold exclusively at Wal-Mart stores in North America.

The first disc will consist of 11 re-recorded classics, the second is filled with 11 new songs, and the third is a live, in-concert DVD. All of the music on REVELATION was produced by Kevin Shirley (who previously worked with JOURNEY on their Platinum-certified TRIAL BY FIRE album).

JOURNEY will take REVELATION on the U.S. concert trail later this July, with details to be announced in the coming weeks.

www.journeymusic.com

Andrew - do you know what the deal is re: foreign territories? Will it be on ITunes worldwide too?

Waiting on a reply from mangement about this.

[annie89509]

As far as I know, the writers of a song ALWAYS retain the rights to those songs (unless they sell them off). Heck, just on American Idol tonight, they performed all Beatles songs, and I read that they were trying to get permission from McCartney since their first season to perform those songs! McCartney, as a co-writer, was the one who had to give the permission, so I'm not sure why Perry wouldn't have to do the same thing.


John from Boston

Again, that is the case when there is anything visual with the material. I know it sounds a little weird but as soon as there is a visual representation accompanying the song than the writers must agree to allow it's use. It has something to do with how their art is being portrayed, not just how it is used. That is why music to ads and TV shows and movies must be agreed on by all parties.

See, I am more confused than ever now. Wasn't there a big deal some years ago about Michael Jackson buying up the entire Beatles song catalog from Apple for like millions of dollars, and that he owns the copyrights to all their masterpieces now. How does that translate to having to get permission from the songwriter to use/record a song?

[nutz4Neal]

I knew I was right, but then everyone added the fricken' S.

Oh and I'm telling you that the reason they did Faithfully a 2nd time is because they video timing was off with the band. They were early and the video didn't match what they were singing.

That's funny because I could have sworn Jon said 'RevelationS".

You may be correct about the timing being off with the band; but I was told at the M&G it was a re-do because Arnel was in the middle of the stage the 1st time when he was supposed to be over beside Jon with a view of the screen..whatever the reasons, we got a longer show, it's all good!

[nutz4Neal]

But i think that the re-recordings with the new album will sell more than just than just the original disk on its own sadly

Absofrikinlutely! This is a business people!

I'm not a happy WalMart shopper, but they are no dummies when it comes to marketing..why the hell not sell this product there? Other bands are going this same route, seems to be the way of the future, so why not? It eliminates the distribution headaches and you've got to admit, the shoppers are at WalMart.