Gotta love the Caveman

by **Andrew** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:03 pm

From his new diary update -

Flew into New York Tuesday night (March 4th) for a mastering session with mastering legend George Marino, who did a fabulous job with the new Journey album. It sounds fabulous - rich and lush and hi-fi - everything (and more) than you'd expect from Journey. I am seriously proud of this and really look forward to people hearing it. Journey do have some of the more psychotic and rabid internet fans, and it's not always fun dealing with them - but they know what they like, and I am expecting them to be very happily surprised! This guy has a set of pipes..... and the whole band is playing fantastically!

Amen Kev!

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:06 pm

rabid.??!!. like a mean ole dog!!

hey everyone... come here... your being talking about .. :lol:

by **Rhiannon** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:20 pm

Hey Kevin, blow it out your ass!! :lol:

"Passionate" and "Intense" are better choices. :wink:

by **WIX** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:31 pm

what? dude I shook your hand right before the show when I about ran your butt over walking by the stage?

what was all that talk about one in a million?

are you saying I was foaming at the mouth? :shock:

surely you must be talking about the psychotic 600 dollar ticket chics in the gold circle? :lol:

by **Sassie** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:38 pm

Woof Woof!!!!!

by **Ratgirl** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:16 pm

Maybe we all need to get some shots or something.
Rabid? Wrong choice of words there.. LOL! :lol:

by **Jenna** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:03 pm

Rabid?--------Ouch that stung just a wee bit-------

by **Rick** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:10 pm

WIX wrote:what? dude I shook your hand right before the show when I about ran your butt over walking by the stage?

what was all that talk about one in a million?

are you saying I was foaming at the mouth?

surely you must be talking about the psychotic 600 dollar ticket chics in the gold circle?

by **Red13JoePa** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:44 pm

Dude's a tool and Elson's a better producer for Journey.

by **Moose** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:22 pm

Andrew wrote:Journey do have some of the more psychotic and rabid internet fans

Probably accurate... :lol:

by **Ratgirl** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:25 pm

Jenna wrote:Rabid?--------Ouch that stung just a wee bit-------

Instantly makes me think of Cujo. :shock:

by **finalfight** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm

Red13JoePa wrote:Dude's a tool and Elson's a better producer for Journey.

After Generations? Not a chance.

by **RossValoryRocks** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:25 pm

finalfight wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Dude's a tool and Elson's a better producer for Journey.

After Generations? Not a chance.

Yeah because Escape and Frontiers were terrible Journey albums, right? :roll:

by **Just Mindy** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:27 pm

Moose wrote:
Andrew wrote:Journey do have some of the more psychotic and rabid internet fans

Probably accurate...

I have no idea what he means by that.

Back off, Kevin!

by **Lady Luck** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:38 pm

Ratgirl wrote:Maybe we all need to get some shots or something.
Rabid? Wrong choice of words there.. LOL!

Psychotic wasn't too flattering either. :lol:

by **Eric** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:39 pm

Red13JoePa wrote:Dude's a tool and Elson's a better producer for Journey.

We are assholes - he's right....but I agree with you.

by **Jeremey** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:40 pm

RossValoryRocks wrote:
finalfight wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Dude's a tool and Elson's a better producer for Journey.

After Generations? Not a chance.

Yeah because Escape and Frontiers were terrible Journey albums, right?

Don't forget Mike Stone's contributions to those recordings...Anyone expecting a Frontiers sounding production at the hands of only Kevin Elson without Mike producing will be unpleasantly surprised. Not saying Kevin doesn't do amazing work, but Generations sounded like ass, and I've never really heard anything else he's produced on his own.

by **FinnFreak** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:56 pm

KevTheCave wrote:Journey do have some of the more psychotic and rabid internet fans

- Quite an unique way of complimenting the fans... :lol:

- Cheers..!

by **Red13JoePa** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:58 pm

Jeremey wrote: Not saying Kevin doesn't do amazing work, but Generations sounded like ass

I thought it sounded way better than Arrival.
Louder, clearer.

TBF sounded good, though, even if the songs were like:

by **RossValoryRocks** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:39 am

Jeremey wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
finalfight wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Dude's a tool and Elson's a better producer for Journey.

After Generations? Not a chance.

Yeah because Escape and Frontiers were terrible Journey albums, right?

Don't forget Mike Stone's contributions to those recordings...Anyone expecting a Frontiers sounding production at the hands of only Kevin Elson without Mike producing will be unpleasantly surprised. Not saying Kevin doesn't do amazing work, but Generations sounded like ass, and I've never really heard anything else he's produced on his own.

Any of the Mr. Big albums...

by **DrFU** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:50 am

We rabid psychos supply the cash that's going to send his kid to college.

by **brywool** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:54 am

Andrew wrote:From his new diary update -

Flew into New York Tuesday night (March 4th) for a mastering session with mastering legend George Marino, who did a fabulous job with the new Journey album. It sounds fabulous - rich and lush and hi-fi - everything (and more) than you'd expect from Journey. I am seriously proud of this and really look forward to people hearing it. Journey do have some of the more psychotic and rabid internet fans, and it's not always fun dealing with them - but they know what they like, and I am expecting them to be very happily surprised! This guy has a set of pipes..... and the whole band is playing fantastically!

Amen Kev!

All I can say is the drums better sound better than they have...

by **strangegrey** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:00 am

Ahh....looks like Spank is hitting the sauce once again. Nothing like hiring a fall down drunk for your production. Mike Portnoy and John Petrucci did the smartest thing they could eradicating caveman from their sessions.

Sorry, Kevin, ole boy, you don't hold a candle to the likes of Elson...your work will likely be augmented by the tons of compresison, BBE bullshit and other modern day digital crap that George Marino will apply to the record.

Just another day in the music business of 200x.
Put together a shitty record and let the guy mastering it clean up your mess....

by **strangegrey** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:02 am

btw, one more thing, Whiskey boy....how much is the band paying you for this? did they throw a few extra cases of old Tennessee into your compensation for talking up Arnel or are you having second thoughts after the fact and need to talk this 3-disc trainwreck up so your career doesn't go down with Journey's?

by **Red13JoePa** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:04 am

strangegrey wrote:
Sorry, Kevin, ole boy, you don't hold a candle to the likes of Elson

Says I, too.

Give me Elson next album since we're too late now on Revelation.

by **mistiejourney** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:55 am

Rabid and psychotic?

In my real life I'm a married (30 years) mother of three (27, 24, and 18 years), a professional registered nurse (30 years) who has returned to college with the goal of a PhD to become a nursing professor. I deal with life-and-death situations every day.

I also am passionate about my music, of which Journey has been a part for 23 years. I have had the means and the time to attend a minimum of 30 Journey concerts since 1987 (Two with Perry, one with JSS and the rest with Augeri), many of them Five-Star packages.

My point? Journey's fans are not lunatics or psychotics. They are hard-working people with lives and families who have appreciated what Journey has added to their lives.

For those of us on the precipice of actually giving Arnel a chance (and I think he's great) as a Journey front man, being referred to as rabid and psychotic does not exactly endear us to your employers. Way to go Caveman. Did that description come from a "Higher Place"?

Hey Neal - if you are reading, please understand that you aren't losing teeny-bopping, couch potato, no-life losers as fans.

You are losing me and those of my MR colleagues who really think that YOU think we are garbage.

Boy, if this doesn't say a lot about what the band thinks of us, nothing does.

Sorry, but I'm sick of being called a loon or feeling like a second class citizen because I haven't quite yet jumped on the latest Journey incarnation. This doesn't help matters.

Thank god Arnel can sing, because he may be the only thing that gets me back....

by **brywool** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:00 am

He means it as a compliment folks... In the context of the sentence, it's obvious that the guy was making a joke.

by **pinkvelvet** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:03 am

mistiejourney wrote:Rabid and psychotic?

In my real life I'm a married (30 years) mother of three (27, 24, and 18 years), a professional registered nurse (30 years) who has returned to college with the goal of a PhD to become a nursing professor. I deal with life-and-death situations every day.

I also am passionate about my music, of which Journey has been a part for 23 years. I have had the means and the time to attend a minimum of 30 Journey concerts since 1987 (Two with Perry, one with JSS and the rest with Augeri), many of them Five-Star packages.

My point? Journey's fans are not lunatics or psychotics. They are hard-working people with lives and families who have appreciated what Journey has added to their lives.

For those of us on the precipice of actually giving Arnel a chance (and I think he's great) as a Journey front man, being referred to as rabid and psychotic does not exactly endear us to your employers. Way to go Caveman. Did that description come from a "Higher Place"?

Hey Neal - if you are reading, please understand that you aren't losing teeny-bopping, couch potato, no-life losers as fans.

You are losing me and those of my MR colleagues who really think that YOU think we are garbage.

Boy, if this doesn't say a lot about what the band thinks of us, nothing does.

Sorry, but I'm sick of being called a loon or feeling like a second class citizen because I haven't quite yet jumped on the latest Journey incarnation. This doesn't help matters.

Thank god Arnel can sing, because he may be the only thing that gets me back....

I dont think he meant ALL Journey fans are rabid and psychotic. He probably meant just the realy extreme once ( like those who starts petition blogs to fire the new guy). And you know very well there quite a few of those.

by **mistiejourney** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:05 am

brywool wrote:He means it as a compliment folks... In the context of the sentence, it's obvious that the guy was making a joke.

Really? It didn't come across that way to me when "and it's not always fun dealing with them" followed the description.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it sure hit me the wrong way - and it takes a lot to get me riled up!

by **brywool** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:28 am

mistiejourney wrote:
brywool wrote:He means it as a compliment folks... In the context of the sentence, it's obvious that the guy was making a joke.

Really? It didn't come across that way to me when "and it's not always fun dealing with them" followed the description.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it sure hit me the wrong way - and it takes a lot to get me riled up!

"It's not always fun dealing with them"- did you read some of the comments people posted here about him within this very thread? I get the guys trepidation!
Still, seemed like it was almost a compliment to me. If he said "you guys are the craziest and wildest fans..."- it's the same thing, he just used psychotic (for crazy) and rabid (for wild).
Geez, maybe he just needs a thesaurus.

MR

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