The re-recorded classics disc...

[RocknRoll]

I'm also going to chime in here on a great deate.

As much as I love JSS I seriously believe this was the right move for Journey. They needed a "spark" an attention getter and I think they have found it. Something to get the band noticed and if it extends globally, how can that not be a good thing?

[Saint John]

I'm also going to chime in here on a great deate.

As much as I love JSS I seriously believe this was the right move for Journey. They needed a "spark" an attention getter and I think they have found it. Something to get the band noticed and if it extends globally, how can that not be a good thing?

I agree. Jeff's power in the lower register would fit seamlessly in bands like Velvet Revolver, Alice In Chains and even Van Halen. Journey, like Survivor, just needs a different type of voice.

[StevePerryHair]

I'm also going to chime in here on a great deate.

As much as I love JSS I seriously believe this was the right move for Journey. They needed a "spark" an attention getter and I think they have found it. Something to get the band noticed and if it extends globally, how can that not be a good thing?

I agree. Jeff's power in the lower register would fit seamlessly in bands like Velvet Revolver, Alice In Chains and even Van Halen. Journey, like Survivor, just needs a different type of voice.

Only if you care about that classic sound

[Rick]

I'm also going to chime in here on a great deate.

As much as I love JSS I seriously believe this was the right move for Journey. They needed a "spark" an attention getter and I think they have found it. Something to get the band noticed and if it extends globally, how can that not be a good thing?

I agree. Jeff's power in the lower register would fit seamlessly in bands like Velvet Revolver, Alice In Chains and even Van Halen. Journey, like Survivor, just needs a different type of voice.

Funny you said that because I think Arnel could sing for Journey or Survivor and be equally as good. Jeff would fit perfectly in Van Halen or Queen. He was fucking great fronting Journey though. Loved the energy.

[youkeepmewaiting]

I'm also going to chime in here on a great deate.

As much as I love JSS I seriously believe this was the right move for Journey. They needed a "spark" an attention getter and I think they have found it. Something to get the band noticed and if it extends globally, how can that not be a good thing?

I agree. Jeff's power in the lower register would fit seamlessly in bands like Velvet Revolver, Alice In Chains and even Van Halen. Journey, like Survivor, just needs a different type of voice.

Only if you care about that classic sound

Journey, Classic Souns = The Best Sound

[Saint John]

I'm also going to chime in here on a great deate.

As much as I love JSS I seriously believe this was the right move for Journey. They needed a "spark" an attention getter and I think they have found it. Something to get the band noticed and if it extends globally, how can that not be a good thing?

I agree. Jeff's power in the lower register would fit seamlessly in bands like Velvet Revolver, Alice In Chains and even Van Halen. Journey, like Survivor, just needs a different type of voice.

Only if you care about that classic sound

Do you honestly think a THIRTY year old band with 80 MILLION units sold and a signature sound could succeed with a different sound in a different direction??? Seems highly unlikely to me.

[Journey/Survivor]

Whoever says they are NOT going to take a listen to this....is a fucking liar

That's mostly true. There will be a small handful of Perry loons who will continue to be stubborn and childish and not listen, but it will only be a small handful of people.

I'm sure I'm always going to like the originals better than the remakes, and Perry will always be my favorite singer in Journey. And I'm way more excited about the new album than I am for the remakes. But I'll gladly listen to the remakes too. If Journey were releasing the remakes without a new album then we would all have something to complain about. But if it's in addition to a new album, then it's a nice bonus, and nothing to complain about.

[Rick]

Whoever says they are NOT going to take a listen to this....is a fucking liar

That's mostly true. There will be a small handful of Perry loons who will continue to be stubborn and childish and not listen, but it will only be a small handful of people.

I'm sure I'm always going to like the originals better than the remakes, and Perry will always be my favorite singer in Journey. And I'm way more excited about the new album than I am for the remakes. But I'll gladly listen to the remakes too. If Journey were releasing the remakes without a new album then we would all have something to complain about. But if it's in addition to a new album, then it's a nice bonus, and nothing to complain about.

Great attitude and great post.

[Saint John]

Whoever says they are NOT going to take a listen to this....is a fucking liar

That's mostly true. There will be a small handful of Perry loons who will continue to be stubborn and childish and not listen, but it will only be a small handful of people.

I'm sure I'm always going to like the originals better than the remakes, and Perry will always be my favorite singer in Journey. And I'm way more excited about the new album than I am for the remakes. But I'll gladly listen to the remakes too. If Journey were releasing the remakes without a new album then we would all have something to complain about. But if it's in addition to a new album, then it's a nice bonus, and nothing to complain about.

Great attitude and great post.

Thanks, Mr. Rogers!!!

[StevePerryHair]

I'm also going to chime in here on a great deate.

As much as I love JSS I seriously believe this was the right move for Journey. They needed a "spark" an attention getter and I think they have found it. Something to get the band noticed and if it extends globally, how can that not be a good thing?

I agree. Jeff's power in the lower register would fit seamlessly in bands like Velvet Revolver, Alice In Chains and even Van Halen. Journey, like Survivor, just needs a different type of voice.

Only if you care about that classic sound

Do you honestly think a THIRTY year old band with 80 MILLION units sold and a signature sound could succeed with a different sound in a different direction??? Seems highly unlikely to me.

Yes I do. They would have been fine, because the audiences I saw were very happy with Jeff on stage. They may have lost some core fans who NEED that signature sound, but would have gained more to make up for it.

[Rick]

Whoever says they are NOT going to take a listen to this....is a fucking liar

That's mostly true. There will be a small handful of Perry loons who will continue to be stubborn and childish and not listen, but it will only be a small handful of people.

I'm sure I'm always going to like the originals better than the remakes, and Perry will always be my favorite singer in Journey. And I'm way more excited about the new album than I am for the remakes. But I'll gladly listen to the remakes too. If Journey were releasing the remakes without a new album then we would all have something to complain about. But if it's in addition to a new album, then it's a nice bonus, and nothing to complain about.

Great attitude and great post.

Thanks, Mr. Rogers!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s86RtNYnSf8

[Greg]

I'm also going to chime in here on a great deate.

As much as I love JSS I seriously believe this was the right move for Journey. They needed a "spark" an attention getter and I think they have found it. Something to get the band noticed and if it extends globally, how can that not be a good thing?

Jeff is global as well. Don't forget, he was on tour over seas with Talisman when he got the word he was out of Journey. (In fact, I believe he is on tour right now in Europe.) Arnel really doesn't have an upper hand in that regards. Also, Jeff sparked this band big time when he saved their tour with Def Leppard. And I remember the reviews coming in saying that Journey blew Def Leppard off the stage. 90% of the folks here said Journey hadn't rocked that way with JSS in a long, long time. The ONLY thing that Arnel has over Jeff is that he's got a higher tenor. After the first few shows, Jeff was singing the Journey songs with no problems. Jeff is more of a low tenor/baritone singer, but he still sounded really good on the Journey stuff. In fact, what I liked mostly about him was that he wasn't trying to sound like Steve Perry. That was refreshing to me. And, it was refreshing for quite a number of folks here as well. So, I wouldn't say that Journey needed a spark. They had it with Jeff. But, to have the "legacy-Steve Perry sound", they wanted someone who could sound closer to Perry and they found both Jeremey and Arnel.

I personally believe it's best to keep the Steve Perry sound in the past and look into a new direction, but maybe I'm wrong. Who knows? Makes you realize just exactly how talented rock bands were in the 70's and 80's when they're trying to replace and reinvent the same sound today. While there are a few really good bands today, I haven't heard anything truly special like I've heard from the bands in the arena rock days.

[RocknRoll]

I'm also going to chime in here on a great deate.

As much as I love JSS I seriously believe this was the right move for Journey. They needed a "spark" an attention getter and I think they have found it. Something to get the band noticed and if it extends globally, how can that not be a good thing?

I agree. Jeff's power in the lower register would fit seamlessly in bands like Velvet Revolver, Alice In Chains and even Van Halen. Journey, like Survivor, just needs a different type of voice.

Only if you care about that classic sound

Do you honestly think a THIRTY year old band with 80 MILLION units sold and a signature sound could succeed with a different sound in a different direction??? Seems highly unlikely to me.

Bingo

[Greg]

I'm also going to chime in here on a great deate.

As much as I love JSS I seriously believe this was the right move for Journey. They needed a "spark" an attention getter and I think they have found it. Something to get the band noticed and if it extends globally, how can that not be a good thing?

I agree. Jeff's power in the lower register would fit seamlessly in bands like Velvet Revolver, Alice In Chains and even Van Halen. Journey, like Survivor, just needs a different type of voice.

Only if you care about that classic sound

Do you honestly think a THIRTY year old band with 80 MILLION units sold and a signature sound could succeed with a different sound in a different direction??? Seems highly unlikely to me.

But, have they truly succeed with basically the same "signature" sound since Steve Perry left? In terms of commercial success and selling records, no they have not. If Journey would've went with Jeff, they would've at least done no worse than what they did with Steve Augeri.

[Vladan]

I'll buy the album, listen to it. And shelve it like everyone else will, after a period of time due to the fact it won't get any true exposure. And I don't feel America is ready for a non American front man leading one the most legendary American rock bands in history, and as racist as that might sound - it's probably true as well. There has been far too much drama and problems in the past, lead singer issues, albums not doing too well, the controversy surrounding Steve Augeri, the list goes on.

Arrival, Generations, not counting the LP Red 13 - their last two full albums did not meet expectations and Arrival was a monster effort. I am still not convinced, and in my honest opinion it's only a matter of time before they call it quits, for a while or even permanently. I also feel there are inside sources around here that feel the same.

[RedWingFan]

OMFG!!

I agree with everything RWF has said. I'm in shock.

Well you were bound to be right sometime.
Too bad it's on a subject as trivial as this.

[lparn]

The last 2 singers in this band all replaced someone who to many people is irreplaceable. They both left their own talents and take on the songs and the music on this band whether some people liked them or their contributions or not.
They both sang for this band with talent, class, and respect for the fans, music and the legacy of the history of this band.
What the band did to both of them, SA and JSS their so called "brothers", was not only not called for, it was down right rotten.
You cannot "punish" someone without hurting the people that care, support and love them.
The band should have thought of that before they used them until one was sidelined and then trashed them.
We have been asking for a dvd and a rerecorded cd of the classics for the past 8 years. If the band thinks that the people that stuck by them, support SA and like him, and his contributions to and as part of the band, are not going to be upset and angry that this is being done NOW and that we do not have something to say about it, then it is obvious that they really do not care what the fans think or feel.It is a slap in the face not only to SA, also to the fans that support and like him, and I personally find that a little difficult to ignore and it tells speaks volumes to me about how much the remaining members care about what we think and feel and how much they appreciate our support over the years. I have seen and heard other singers and bands talk about the fan reactions to their songs and music even the songs that are 15-20 years old. you can tell that they appreciate the fan support and that they get what their songs and music means to people. SP and SA got that. In the rare times that I talked to SA or read an interview it was obvious how much the fans and their support means to him and how much he "gets" it. I do not think the rest of them do. That is too bad.
and it is for that reason in part that I can not get excited about this or support it.

[lparn]

They would be crazy to turn down the offer at this stage in their lives. It's a no brainer. They don't have as many avenues of income anymore. Records don't sell, there's not much radio play, so it's offers like redoing the GH, and touring. That's about it.

Yeah, but where does it stop? How low do you go for a buck?

good point and good question.

[ttango1]

And I don't feel America is ready for a non American front man leading one the most legendary American rock bands in history, and as racist as that might sound - it's probably true as well. There has been far too much drama and problems in the past, lead singer issues, albums not doing too well, the controversy surrounding Steve Augeri, the list goes on.

You give Americans too little credit from your vantage point in Australia. The fans that Journey wants to grow their demographic with aren't the ones that know too much about lead singer issues, album sales about albums after Frontiers (Save GH and TBF) or know SA or JSS too much. What they do know are the classics and now they want to hear them again plus see what comes of whatever new stuff Journey provides.

The fact that there has been confirmation of 2 shows at 2 of California's most sought after venues means that A) there is again a market for Journey and B) they expect those venues to sell well. Since JSS rocked during the DefLep shows, then I'm curious as to why the powers that be felt that JSS was not the answer. AP provides a refreshing breath of fresh air, albeit one not from an expected place but now we have a sample of 4 shows in which fans have said are what they expect from Journey.

[FinnFreak]

- Listen to it with an open mind - though re-recording old material seems a bit of a waste of time...

...unless the old recordings were UTTER CRAP in the first place & desperately NEED re-recording to do them justice.


...is THAT the reason..?