Big Interview

[Rick]

I don't think very many people outside of this forum would even know what we are talking about if we mentioned the "Journey Tapegate" scandal. If we mentioned Milli Vanilli or Ashlee Simpson, they would know about that... but I don't think this Tapegate thing is really that big of a story outside of MR. None of my friends have ever even heard of it, and they are big Journey fans. I can't even remember hearing about it on the radio or seeing it in a newspaper.

Hence my comment about diehards. Like it or not, Journey is a nostalgia band these days...just like almost every other classic rock band touring. Average person attending a show isn't going to have the same interest level in the band that those who frequent this forum would.

I agree with you on that. These classic rock bands are still active because there is enough fans out there who are willing to listen to them in concert. I don't know if they lose any money on making new albums (or if they break even,) but I doubt they make any real money off of new albums. Which, don't get me wrong, I am thankful we have some of these classic bands still wanting to tour (albeit a lot of them aren't touring as an original band anymore.) But, to be on top of the world again, you'll never see that with the exception of a very few bands (like Aerosmith or the Rolling Stones.)

I agree to a large extent, but I'm kind of curious as to how this deal with WalMart will bring up the revenue from their CD set.

I don't expect any miracles. If the album sells more than recent past albums, it will be because of the greatest hits CD. Fortunately or unfortunately. However you want to look at it.

Well my point is that I think they'll get a better chunk of the sales than they would with the labels. It'll be interesting to see how they fair.

[Greg]

I don't think very many people outside of this forum would even know what we are talking about if we mentioned the "Journey Tapegate" scandal. If we mentioned Milli Vanilli or Ashlee Simpson, they would know about that... but I don't think this Tapegate thing is really that big of a story outside of MR. None of my friends have ever even heard of it, and they are big Journey fans. I can't even remember hearing about it on the radio or seeing it in a newspaper.

Hence my comment about diehards. Like it or not, Journey is a nostalgia band these days...just like almost every other classic rock band touring. Average person attending a show isn't going to have the same interest level in the band that those who frequent this forum would.

I agree with you on that. These classic rock bands are still active because there is enough fans out there who are willing to listen to them in concert. I don't know if they lose any money on making new albums (or if they break even,) but I doubt they make any real money off of new albums. Which, don't get me wrong, I am thankful we have some of these classic bands still wanting to tour (albeit a lot of them aren't touring as an original band anymore.) But, to be on top of the world again, you'll never see that with the exception of a very few bands (like Aerosmith or the Rolling Stones.)

I agree to a large extent, but I'm kind of curious as to how this deal with WalMart will bring up the revenue from their CD set.

I don't expect any miracles. If the album sells more than recent past albums, it will be because of the greatest hits CD. Fortunately or unfortunately. However you want to look at it.

Well my point is that I think they'll get a better chunk of the sales than they would with the labels. It'll be interesting to see how they fair.

I wouldn't count on them getting a better chunk of the sales. There's always a catch. But, we'll see.

[Saint John]

My understanding is that they get a set amount and it doesn't matter what the album sales are. I honestly think the sales will be huge worldwide and Wal Mart and Music Now will be the ones raking in all the $$$ (per usual).

[Lula]

NEED to get an Augeri interview soon though, come on Steve get in touch/

No shot for here.

If you're Augeri don't you see MR.com as "The site that broke tapegate?"

Although I am sure your comments weren't intentional, that is a slap at Andrew. It really is not MR's fault Tapegate broke. The members here that did the "work" just so happened to be active here. With the exception of BT, it could have broke anywhere, but it might as well have been here, as MR is the most popular site.

The truth is the truth.

But...sadly that is a perception by some, including the person I interviewed. This is the place where it went down and I am ultimately partly responsible for what ensued...as this is my board.

It was a hard time for me also....very personally stressful.

you couldn't pay me to relive those days, stressful? um, yeah! onward to happier days for all

[Greg]

My understanding is that they get a set amount and it doesn't matter what the album sales are. I honestly think the sales will be huge worldwide and Wal Mart and Music Now will be the ones raking in all the $$$ (per usual).

Probably will be big in terms of Walmart making a lot of money. But judging by REO Speedwagon, it hasn't really helped in regards to being recognized.

[Saint John]

My understanding is that they get a set amount and it doesn't matter what the album sales are. I honestly think the sales will be huge worldwide and Wal Mart and Music Now will be the ones raking in all the $$$ (per usual).

Probably will be big in terms of Walmart making a lot of money. But judging by REO Speedwagon, it hasn't really helped in regards to being recognized.

It will surely be interesting to see the level of committment Wal Mart shows as it pertains to marketing and advertising for Journey. I think the overseas sales are a slam dunk. Recognition? Hmm...i say they do better than REO...which won't be hard!!!

[youkeepmewaiting]

i still have a hard time believing it, tho i do.

I was so close during the Generations tour that I actually heard Steve struggling to sing - however, what they were hearing behind me (I was about 3 rows back) may be a different story. In fact, I could BARELY hear him and it used to tick me off that the vocals were always so buried. Now I know why. I never realized there was lipping going on but I know that SA's voice was nearly gone on the Generations tour, so the thing that I will never understand is why they went and did the DL tour knowing Steve was in such bad straits.

He was singing a lot of the time, you just couldn't hear it. He sang in case the mic went live, like at the end of some songs where the segued into the next one. THAT's where you really could hear the fact his voice was shot.
So, yeah, he was singing, but sometimes he was probably just mouthing the words...he knew when to take a breather and when to actually speak.

I just don't know why Elson/Shirley/even Azoff used the same CD over and over and why they didn't try to mix it up? It was too easy to figure out.

Definitly. There is a few youtube videos going around were at the end you can more or less pin point the second when the lippin stops and Augeri is on his own, very sad. Similar to when Meat Loaf was playing at the Royal Variety in 2006 I think, on the first song he sang it was easy to see he was lippin and when it was just him, that was sad to see also

[STORY_TELLER]

So I'm thinking the interview is between Azoff and Herbert now, but leaning toward Azoff.

[SteveForever]

So I'm thinking the interview is between Azoff and Herbert now, but leaning toward Azoff.

Dang.....Andrew, if you get an interview with Azoff ask him if offered therapy between Perry and Schon/Cain for a reunion.

[scarygirl]

So I'm thinking the interview is between Azoff and Herbert now, but leaning toward Azoff.

Dang.....Andrew, if you get an interview with Azoff ask him if offered therapy between Perry and Schon/Cain for a reunion.

They should go on Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew. Speaking of hot man....

[SteveForever]

So I'm thinking the interview is between Azoff and Herbert now, but leaning toward Azoff.

Dang.....Andrew, if you get an interview with Azoff ask him if offered therapy between Perry and Schon/Cain for a reunion.

They should go on Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew. Speaking of hot man....

Agreed..

[Andrew]

So I'm thinking the interview is between Azoff and Herbert now, but leaning toward Azoff.

Dang.....Andrew, if you get an interview with Azoff ask him if offered therapy between Perry and Schon/Cain for a reunion.

That topic is covered in a certain way. But it is not Irving Azoff, who would be a fascinating interview in his own right.

No - my interview is with Herbie Herbert. It went very well and Herbie lives up to his reputation as a straight talker and he fires several bullets during the interview.

But there are other aspects of the interview which I'm sure many will find surprising and this is not quite the same Herbie as was witnessed on the 2001 Castle's Burning interview.

Herbie also has a lot of positive things to say and some of those comments I think will have people talking as much or if not more than any negative comments.

Unfortunately, there remains no love lost for Steve Perry, which is regrettable. I have never even come close to getting a Perry interview and I don't think this interview with Herbie will help that cause

[youkeepmewaiting]

So I'm thinking the interview is between Azoff and Herbert now, but leaning toward Azoff.

Dang.....Andrew, if you get an interview with Azoff ask him if offered therapy between Perry and Schon/Cain for a reunion.

That topic is covered in a certain way. But it is not Irving Azoff, who would be a fascinating interview in his own right.

No - my interview is with Herbie Herbert. It went very well and Herbie lives up to his reputation as a straight talker and he fires several bullets during the interview.

But there are other aspects of the interview which I'm sure many will find surprising and this is not quite the same Herbie as was witnessed on the 2001 Castle's Burning interview.

Herbie also has a lot of positive things to say and some of those comments I think will have people talking as much or if not more than any negative comments.

Unfortunately, there remains no love lost for Steve Perry, which is regrettable. I have never even come close to getting a Perry interview and I don't think this interview with Herbie will help that cause

1. Fantasitc

2. the question on all our lips.. when can we read it??!!

[Andrew]

Maybe late next week.

[mikemarrs]

will be looking forward to it.

[Loneman1]

Wow.........this is gonna be awesome!!! Great work Andrew!!!

[Foolish Heart]

I can't wait to hear what he has to say. It's sad that there is still no love lost for SP -- can someone tell me, when was the last time HH spoke out about Journey/SP?????

[Memorex]

Andrew,

You know I've been a fan - BUT...

If you are going to post an interview where Herbie the Ego bug spews crap about all the band members, I would be disappointed.

It's so insulting when he talks about Neal the way he has, and all the others.

Not one of these guys have ever spoken one negative word about this guy. But I think Herbie actually loses sleep over the fact that it was the Steve and Neal show.

This board has seen enough shit. I'd say the band has suffered a lot, but really, we are a small group in the scheme of things.

All I can say is Herbie has an agenda. There are people I dislike in my life, but for me to publicly discuss the negatives I feel is self-serving.

Really - who gives a flying leap about who did what drug or who hated who or who's wife had better have a hit record? It's name dropping and Herbie can't seem to let it go. If he was like this during the heyday, which I suspect he was, I have no idea how the band put up with him so long. It seems it would be a huge distraction to have this guy running around, probably creating rifts within the band.

Like I said Andrew, I hope for the sake of the band and the members on this board, you will use proper editing skills like any good journalist would do. Bringing this resentment and hatred to this place, this place that has been fractured over and over, is serving Herbie, and not us. You may say that printing word for word is what a good journalist would do. But think of any major writer, they know what's trash and not worth including.

You said that after this interview, Steve Perry would not ever give you his own interview. First off, that's you and thousands of others. And second, if it's so bad, don't print it.

All I can say Andrew is that before you print it, read Luke's note again, and again, and again. I implore you.

[Andrew]

Classic Rock Revisited did an interview in 2006, but I can no longer find any link to that.

The only other one of note that I know of is the infamous "Castles Burning" interview -

http://members.cox.net/mrcarty/

[larryfromnextdoor]

It's so insulting when he talks about Neal the way he has, and all the others.

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yet , doesnt HH still own a company with neal?

[brandonx76]

All I can say Andrew is that before you print it, read Luke's note again, and again, and again. I implore you.

I question Herbie's relevance to the current state of the state with Journey...however, Drew's a big kid, all grown up and what not...Guy runs the premier Melodicrock website still covering artists from the 70s and 80s...I say...give him some credit.

[larryfromnextdoor]

Maybe late next week.

Unacceptable!! start typing man .. you could have that thing out by morning ..

[youkeepmewaiting]

Maybe late next week.

Unacceptable!! start typing man .. you could have that thing out by morning ..

Hell, me and Larry will type it up for you if you give us your notes

[Memorex]

I believe so. Neal says Herbie is like a father and Herbie basically says Neal is dumb as a stump. So what? He acts like these guys could not have succeeded without him. Neal’s brilliance on guitar far surpasses any deal Herbie could ever make.

I realize Herbie is legendary. But come on, he over-values himself beyond belief. He truly acts like it was all him. But guess what, I have a feeling he contributed to them not being together. Seems he was always talking behind their backs instead of creating harmony. I'm sure there were good times and bad times.

But I'm sorry - if 20 years later you come out and have all this negative stuff to say, and with such spite, you are a prick.

What's worse - A guy who was a good business man who turned bitter and jealous, or a lead singer who was a prick or a guitarist that couldn't spell guitar that seem to have come to terms with their lives and look back with respect and love? I used to respect Herbie and now I see him as a washed up old bitter bitch.

[Andrew]

Andrew,

You know I've been a fan - BUT...

Sigh.

How about waiting for the freeeking interview to be posted BEFORE complaining about it. Shit a brick - keeping some people happy around here is nigh impossible.

[Memorex]

All I can say Andrew is that before you print it, read Luke's note again, and again, and again. I implore you.

I question Herbie's relevance to the current state of the state with Journey...however, Drew's a big kid, all grown up and what not...Guy runs the premier Melodicrock website still covering artists from the 70s and 80s...I say...give him some credit.

I do give Andrew credit. I've supported his site from day one. But printing Herbie word for word is not journalism. So I am simply suggesting Andrew consider things. I realize he's a big boy.

[AlteredDNA]

Andrew,

You know I've been a fan - BUT...

Sigh.

How about waiting for the freeeking interview to be posted BEFORE complaining about it. Shit a brick - keeping some people happy around here is nigh impossible.

Not your job, mate...Just keep yourself happy by doing what you love, and don't worry about the rest...

Congrats on the interview...looking forward to reading it...

[Memorex]

Andrew,

You know I've been a fan - BUT...

Sigh.

How about waiting for the freeeking interview to be posted BEFORE complaining about it. Shit a brick - keeping some people happy around here is nigh impossible.

I guess I'm not pissed at you as much as "oh, another interview with Herbie spewing shit instead of moving on". I'm pissed because on this board, Journey is no longer about the music. And with you as the owner of all of this, and the many times you have asked that we all move on, etc. Hell, the other day you said maybe we could all move on. Something tells me this will delay that. But maybe I am wrong.

I've never once complained about you at all Andrew, you know that. I guess I just don't really feel like negativity is where we should be at. It's become a poison.

[larryfromnextdoor]

Maybe late next week.

Unacceptable!! start typing man .. you could have that thing out by morning ..

Hell, me and Larry will type it up for you if you give us your notes

thats right cousin... ALL little letters and miss-spellings..

[texafana]

No - my interview is with Herbie Herbert. It went very well and Herbie lives up to his reputation as a straight talker and he fires several bullets during the interview.(

I was hoping for someone else. Still, will be a fun read.