Big Interview

[larryfromnextdoor]

No - my interview is with Herbie Herbert. It went very well and Herbie lives up to his reputation as a straight talker and he fires several bullets during the interview.(

I was hoping for someone else. Still, will be a fun read.

augeri should be next!!

[The_Noble_Cause]

Andrew,

You know I've been a fan - BUT...

If you are going to post an interview where Herbie the Ego bug spews crap about all the band members, I would be disappointed.

It's so insulting when he talks about Neal the way he has, and all the others.

Not one of these guys have ever spoken one negative word about this guy. But I think Herbie actually loses sleep over the fact that it was the Steve and Neal show.

This board has seen enough shit. I'd say the band has suffered a lot, but really, we are a small group in the scheme of things.

All I can say is Herbie has an agenda. There are people I dislike in my life, but for me to publicly discuss the negatives I feel is self-serving.

Really - who gives a flying leap about who did what drug or who hated who or who's wife had better have a hit record? It's name dropping and Herbie can't seem to let it go. If he was like this during the heyday, which I suspect he was, I have no idea how the band put up with him so long. It seems it would be a huge distraction to have this guy running around, probably creating rifts within the band.

Like I said Andrew, I hope for the sake of the band and the members on this board, you will use proper editing skills like any good journalist would do. Bringing this resentment and hatred to this place, this place that has been fractured over and over, is serving Herbie, and not us. You may say that printing word for word is what a good journalist would do. But think of any major writer, they know what's trash and not worth including.

You said that after this interview, Steve Perry would not ever give you his own interview. First off, that's you and thousands of others. And second, if it's so bad, don't print it.

All I can say Andrew is that before you print it, read Luke's note again, and again, and again. I implore you.

If Herbie is public enemy # 1, why did someone connected to Journey (Neal no doubt) already play for him the re-recorded classics?
Obviously then, his ties to the band are not nearly as frayed as you make it out to be.
He was there for one of the Walk of Fame ceremonies. He came out to see Jeff perform with the band.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Nocturne was involved with the recently filmed Vegas show.

If the band sees it fit to keep company with him, why should Andrew second guess his own journalistic acumen?

Drew - this is not a regular interview. This is Herbie Herbert. We've been waiting too long for this to let anything sacrifice it; including some high minded posters' fragile sensibilities.
Print it in all it's foul mouthed, triple-chinned glory, please.

[The_Noble_Cause]

But printing Herbie word for word is not journalism.

Neither is selective censorship. This is idiocy.

The discourse on this forum will turn to music on the day the new music drops.
Until then, of course we keep ourselves preoccupied with random miscellany.

That's the ebb and flow of nearly all message boards.

[Memorex]

I'm sure there are relaionships, which makes it all the more insulting the way he talks these days. He's just bitter.

I am not high minded, just tired of all the negative and hurtful shit that goes on. It's gotten to be too much.

He's not THAT legendary. Other managers have done a hell of a lot more. I think he takes himself a lot too seriously.

[Memorex]

Editing to your audience is always true journalism. Deciding not to print gratuitous crap is also journalism. Happens every day.

[JRNYLIVE]

[The_Noble_Cause]

I'm sure there are relaionships, which makes it all the more insulting the way he talks these days. He's just bitter.

Maybe he just has a caustic personality. Personally, I think he's a riot.

I am not high minded, just tired of all the negative and hurtful shit that goes on. It's gotten to be too much.

That is noone's problem but your own.

[Memorex]

I'm sure there are relaionships, which makes it all the more insulting the way he talks these days. He's just bitter.

Maybe he just has a caustic personality. Personally, I think he's a riot.

I am not high minded, just tired of all the negative and hurtful shit that goes on. It's gotten to be too much.

That is noone's problem but your own.

Yes - my problem - EXCEPT. Has Andrew, the owner of this board and the writer of this interview, not begged many times for things to be positive and for people to stop fueling the fire. Yes, it's my problem. But it's also his and anyone else who asks that we move forward.

We can talk more after he posts it.

[Andrew]

I do give Andrew credit. I've supported his site from day one. But printing Herbie word for word is not journalism. So I am simply suggesting Andrew consider things. I realize he's a big boy.

Like I said - WAIT before hurling poo. Who says it will be word for word? Who says it won't. Who says I want a piece like that other infamous interview. You'll all have to wait and see what comes when it comes. And only then will I accept any complaints.

[Memorex]

I do give Andrew credit. I've supported his site from day one. But printing Herbie word for word is not journalism. So I am simply suggesting Andrew consider things. I realize he's a big boy.

Like I said - WAIT before hurling poo. Who says it will be word for word? Who says it won't. Who says I want a piece like that other infamous interview. You'll all have to wait and see what comes when it comes. And only then will I accept any complaints.

I'm going solely based on your contention that once you post what you plan on posting, you'll never have the interview you have wanted. That tells me it's bad enough. Just wish Herbie could let it go.

[youkeepmewaiting]

Editing to your audience is always true journalism. Deciding not to print gratuitous crap is also journalism. Happens every day.

Editing is the worst thing about journalism and the media!

[The_Noble_Cause]

Editing to your audience is always true journalism.

Who are you to say what does and doesn't need pruning?
Speaking solely from the position of a humble MR reader, I want to read as much as possible - not less.

Deciding not to print gratuitous crap is also journalism. Happens every day.

He can break balls and name names all he wants. It's Herbie's life. He lived it.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I'm going solely based on your contention that once you post what you plan on posting, you'll never have the interview you have wanted.

Even *IF* Drew managed to nab the SP interview, does anyone truly believe he'd manage to get anything substantive or hard-hitting out of that guy?
Have you heard or read any of the increasingly opaque mealy-mouthed gruel that passes for a SP interview these days?

The singular perk to landing a SP interview is more MR website hits.
It sure as hell wouldn't be the interview content itself.

[youkeepmewaiting]

I'm going solely based on your contention that once you post what you plan on posting, you'll never have the interview you have wanted.

Even *IF* Drew managed to nab the SP interview, does anyone truly believe he'd manage to get anything substantive or hard-hitting out of that guy?
Have you heard or read any of the increasingly opaque mealy-mouthed gruel that passes for a SP interview these days?

The singular perk to landing a SP interview is more MR website hits.
It sure as hell wouldn't be the interview content itself.

The most "ground breaking" thing that Perry will say in an interview with Andrew is "recording some new stuff is definitly something that I am thinking about doing"

[Andrew]

Here's the thing - I like challenging and confronting interviews. Too often one has to run a fluff piece merely to promote a new album or project. That has its place, but in other cases I delve a little deeper, such as my John Kalodner interview or some of the other industry folks I have featured over the years.

I like challenging and historical figures - Herbie is all of the above. I like to deliver what people ask for - and a Herbie interview has been much requested over the years.

I conducted and will feature the interview, but I don't put words in the mouths of my interviewees....if he has something to say, be it confrontational or controversial, then that's what it is. Don't shoot the messenger!

If their words are how they want to be remembered, then that is their choice.

Just wait and see....this time next week at the latest I hope.

[Badcotune]

Here's the thing - I like challenging and confronting interviews. Too often one has to run a fluff piece merely to promote a new album or project. That has its place, but in other cases I delve a little deeper, such as my John Kalodner interview or some of the other industry folks I have featured over the years.

I like challenging and historical figures - Herbie is all of the above. I like to deliver what people ask for - and a Herbie interview has been much requested over the years.

I conducted and will feature the interview, but I don't put words in the mouths of my interviewees....if he has something to say, be it confrontational or controversial, then that's what it is. Don't shoot the messenger!

If their words are how they want to be remembered, then that is their choice.

Just wait and see....this time next week at the latest I hope.

Great News, Andrew. Herbie is the most interesting Character in the Journey Canon other than Perry -- but perhaps a bit more of a straight shooter;) Can't wait. The man created the band.

When's the Johnny Gioeli piece on Hardline: Just Add Water?

~Badcotune

[mikemarrs]

he might not be an epstein,parker,grant,aucoin,etc. but i think overall herbert did a pretty good job.

[slucero]

..without Herbie there would be no Journey.....

[Aaron]

Mac,

Congrats on the HH interview. I CAN'T WAIT to read that one. I'm sure it will be great as HH has no issue with delivering straight talk.

Cheers,

Aaron

So I'm thinking the interview is between Azoff and Herbert now, but leaning toward Azoff.

Dang.....Andrew, if you get an interview with Azoff ask him if offered therapy between Perry and Schon/Cain for a reunion.

That topic is covered in a certain way. But it is not Irving Azoff, who would be a fascinating interview in his own right.

No - my interview is with Herbie Herbert. It went very well and Herbie lives up to his reputation as a straight talker and he fires several bullets during the interview.

But there are other aspects of the interview which I'm sure many will find surprising and this is not quite the same Herbie as was witnessed on the 2001 Castle's Burning interview.

Herbie also has a lot of positive things to say and some of those comments I think will have people talking as much or if not more than any negative comments.

Unfortunately, there remains no love lost for Steve Perry, which is regrettable. I have never even come close to getting a Perry interview and I don't think this interview with Herbie will help that cause

[STORY_TELLER]

I couldn't disagree more with Memorex. If we were in the room with Andrew and the conversation was on speaker phone, this would not be an issue.

If Herbie said it, we should get to read it. Andrew, please post the entire interview. You have my support.

[Loneman1]

I couldn't disagree more with Memorex. If we were in the room with Andrew and the conversation was on speaker phone, this would not be an issue.

If Herbie said it, we should get to read it. Andrew, please post the entire interview. You have my support.

I may not be a regular around here, but for what its worth, I gotta say......ditto.

[Andrew]

I couldn't disagree more with Memorex. If we were in the room with Andrew and the conversation was on speaker phone, this would not be an issue.

If Herbie said it, we should get to read it. Andrew, please post the entire interview. You have my support.

We jumped back and forth on a few subjects (as sometimes happens), so if anything, I'll edit only to fix the flow of the interview.
I'm sure a few folks will not like portions of the interview, but there is no keeping all Journey fans happy at one time - there are more factions in the Journey fanbase than the Roman Catholic Church (and that comes from a Catholic boy!).

But he said it not me!!

Anyway, all this argy bargy and the interview hasn't even been transcribed yet! I'm sure it will supply enough debating points to keep us busy until June 2.

[Loneman1]

Being a long time lurker as well as a HUGE Journey fan......YOU FUCKING ROCK MAN!!!!!! GO ANDREW!!!!!! I can't wait for this interview!!!

[fredinator]

Andrew, you just CAN'T edit Herbie Herbert; not after that Castles Burning interview--it wouldn't sound right. He is just too colorful and if you edit him too much, I think it would be weird--bland or blah or something. After that scolding by Lukather, this might be kind of refreshing .

[Sarah]

He was there for one of the Walk of Fame ceremonies.

Which ceremonies? He wasn't at the Journey WOF... Perry even mentioned it in his speech...

Memorex, bawww more. I can't wait to read this interview. Personally I find his obnoxious jabs at the band hilarious.

[Andrew]

Andrew, you just CAN'T edit Herbie Herbert; not after that Castles Burning interview--it wouldn't sound right. He is just too colorful and if you edit him too much, I think it would be weird--bland or blah or something. After that scolding by Lukather, this might be kind of refreshing .

It won't be edited - only in the manner I indictaed a few posts back. Never said it would be. The whole thing was a blur after 3 hours....loved it though. Need to re-read from scratch and soak it up...then prepare to debut it online.

[Loneman1]

Andrew, you just CAN'T edit Herbie Herbert; not after that Castles Burning interview--it wouldn't sound right. He is just too colorful and if you edit him too much, I think it would be weird--bland or blah or something. After that scolding by Lukather, this might be kind of refreshing .

Andrew will do right by us.

[fredinator]

3 hours, 3 HOURS?!? (Sounding like Seinfeld, LOL.) Any chance you will just post the whole thing, like a courtroom transcript? What a melodicrock coup!!! Is that right, by the way? It doesn't look right, looks odd or something but I didn't get a bad spelling alert...

[Sassie]

I bet that was a very interesting interview. I personally can't wait to read it. Way to go Andrew!!!! I'll be waiting as patiently as possible.

[Andrew]

About 2hrs 45 in total. Quite the conversation!