Big Interview

[Sarah]

I had no idea Perry used to work on a turkey farm

Wow, really? I think that's on the Loon preliminary test... lol

[mistiejourney]

About 2hrs 45 in total. Quite the conversation!

Was it all "flow" or did you get a follow up question in?

LOL....I did get a few questions in along the way!

I know what that's like!
Interrupting him has all the appeal of stepping in front of a bus.

He is, one of small list of people I know who will not BS you or allow any foolishness on their behalf.

Bring the "A Game" when dealing with him. He's on his.

Whether you agree with Herbie, like Herbie or dislike him, he ALWAYS says exactly what he thinks. And in the world of Journey, where silence is golden and the spin is everything, it is refreshing!

Andrew, you SCORED big time - congratulations! And no matter what the content of the interview, it's gonna be a good one!

[mistiejourney]

What I want to know Andrew is, even after all you know about Herbie, and after reading all his interviews before this, and especially after knowing how frank he is. Did he say anything that shocked you? You don't have to give any details just a yes or no will do.

Yes. I had no idea Perry used to work on a turkey farm

OMG, I'm going to faint!

[Arkansas]

I had no idea Perry used to work on a turkey farm

Wow, really? I think that's on the Loon preliminary test... lol

And didn't NS once say that he picked garlic in Hollister?
...maybe just for fun as a kid. Who knows.


later~

[larryfromnextdoor]

9 pages on who the interview is with, i love this place.
.

the guy knows how to drum up publicity for sure!!!

[SteveForever]

If Herbie comes on as a rich bitter old dude that once again wants to trash talk Steve then that's not the
kind of publicity Journey needs, he will be doing them absolutely no favors.

I really hope Steve Perry comes out some day and slams all of these assholes that got wealthy
off of his brilliance!

[Deb]

If Herbie comes on as a rich bitter old dude that once again wants to trash talk Steve then that's not the
kind of publicity Journey needs, he will be doing them absolutely no favors.

I really hope Steve Perry comes out some day and slams all of these assholes that got wealthy
off of his brilliance!

Whatever his thoughts were on Perry, that was back then.................has nothing to do with the person SP is now.

[Rick]

I really hope Steve Perry comes out some day and slams all of these assholes that got wealthy off of his brilliance!

I don't think that's in his character.

[Rockindeano]

If Herbie comes on as a rich bitter old dude that once again wants to trash talk Steve then that's not the
kind of publicity Journey needs, he will be doing them absolutely no favors.

I really hope Steve Perry comes out some day and slams all of these assholes that got wealthy
off of his brilliance!

Get ready, because what you will hear from Herbie is exactly what you just said.

This is going to be ugly, and I for one don't want to hear it. It is going to destroy this forum.

[Rick]

If Herbie comes on as a rich bitter old dude that once again wants to trash talk Steve then that's not the
kind of publicity Journey needs, he will be doing them absolutely no favors.

I really hope Steve Perry comes out some day and slams all of these assholes that got wealthy
off of his brilliance!

Get ready, because what you will hear from Herbie is exactly what you just said.

This is going to be ugly, and I for one don't want to hear it. It is going to destroy this forum.

It'll cause an uproar, no doubt about it. Should be great fun.

[Rockindeano]

I don't see HH talking about private issues of Steve Perry or anyone else "fun." I think he should shut up about people's private life.

I could blab a bunch of shit about Neal, Ross and other's "behaviour" but would never do that. Some things should be kept quiet and private.

[Rick]

I don't see HH talking about private issues of Steve Perry or anyone else "fun." I think he should shut up about people's private life.

I could blab a bunch of shit about Neal, Ross and other's "behaviour" but would never do that. Some things should be kept quiet and private.

I hated what HH said about Perry last time and thought the same thing you just said. The fun part will be watching certain people here going nuts.

[SteveForever]

I don't see HH talking about private issues of Steve Perry or anyone else "fun." I think he should shut up about people's private life.

I could blab a bunch of shit about Neal, Ross and other's "behaviour" but would never do that. Some things should be kept quiet and private.

I hated what HH said about Perry last time and thought the same thing you just said. The fun part will be watching certain people here going nuts.

oh yeah, like who Rick?

[AlienC]

About 2hrs 45 in total. Quite the conversation!

Was it all "flow" or did you get a follow up question in?

LOL....I did get a few questions in along the way!

I know what that's like!
Interrupting him has all the appeal of stepping in front of a bus.

He is, one of small list of people I know who will not BS you or allow any foolishness on their behalf.

Bring the "A Game" when dealing with him. He's on his.

Allen, in your opinion, is Herbie telling the truth?

Yes

Is Steve Perry the most misunderstood person in the history of music

Yes

or is he the prick that Herbie says he is?

Yes

Personally, I think Perry, as a bandmate or "brother," isn't worth pigeon shit. Common sense mandates this.

WE want to know.... Why do you need Pigeon Shit, and what in the world makes you think to trade SP for some? that's just .... odd. ewww Now if you had said TURKEY shit, we could see the historical significance in the reference, but PIGEONS??? Everybody's got it in for pigeons. Ask one sometime.... "What did you do?" They won't answer why? BECAUSE THEY DON"T know either. whew It gets like that sometimes when the voices take over. my bad.

Serious side... After much thought, my (perceived ) hostility towards SP stems from my abject broken heart over the failure of the "One More Time" Reunion tour with him. Or whatever it would have been called, you get my drift.
As a person, I found him to be as warm and genuine as any of the others at the time, and perhaps a bit more self aware than some give credit for. After sitting in an adjoining room for months on end, documenting the songs and making copies, being monitor engineer and idea backstop, I have a deep abiding appreciation for his abilities that cannot be shaken, despite being PO'd about what wasn't to be.
Those conflicting emotions are not self cancelling nor mutually exclusive.They are Emotions, and are by definition, beyond reason.

The relationships that were shared went through enourmous changes over time, and having spent a fair bit away from "the biz" has given me a much more philosophical point of view.

Put it like this, I MIGHT go into business with him ( good work ethic, proven earner) but I wouldn't go camping with him (falls off of trails). liable to chop his damn hand off. stick himself with a fishhook. have to go back to town. ruin the whole weekend. know what I mean?
Or iput another way.....
He would advance on Celebrity Apprentice but loose on Surviving Ted Nugent. on second thought , he's liable to reach deep down and recall that farm boy stuff and kick some ass.
Steve's alright, no matter what I say about him. I hope he knows I would never do him wrong and never have I wished him ill, despite my angry outbursts. Anyone who knows me knows thats part of my "fun pak" .


What is said doesn't matter as much as what one has done. And I'll always say we worked well together, and he is a Master at what he does. What we DID was "Trial By Fire". In more ways than one.

[Vladan]

its robert flieshman, an in depth interview on how he change journeys sound and steve perry took all the credit, i mean got all the credit.

In what way did Flieshman change Journey's sound, apart from being a mediocre performer and singer, I don't see what he did for Journey.

[Rockindeano]

Personally, I think Perry, as a bandmate or "brother," isn't worth pigeon shit. Common sense mandates this.

Got to call you on this one.

How in the Hell do you know what Perry is like, especially in a band?

Also, lest you think Neal, Jon, Ross or Deen are any better brothers than Perry, you would be 100% incorrect. Ask JSS how great of brothers they are. Hell, ask Steve Augeri the same question.

Perry is going to get the royal assfucking with this interview, and I am not sure it is deserved to be honest with you.

[Rick]

I don't see HH talking about private issues of Steve Perry or anyone else "fun." I think he should shut up about people's private life.

I could blab a bunch of shit about Neal, Ross and other's "behaviour" but would never do that. Some things should be kept quiet and private.

I hated what HH said about Perry last time and thought the same thing you just said. The fun part will be watching certain people here going nuts.

oh yeah, like who Rick?

I think you'll find that question answering itself.

[slucero]

I don't see HH talking about private issues of Steve Perry or anyone else "fun." I think he should shut up about people's private life.

I could blab a bunch of shit about Neal, Ross and other's "behaviour" but would never do that. Some things should be kept quiet and private.

hmm... Deano can I quote ya on this?

The truth is the truth.

[Lora]

If Herbie comes on as a rich bitter old dude that once again wants to trash talk Steve then that's not the
kind of publicity Journey needs, he will be doing them absolutely no favors.

I really hope Steve Perry comes out some day and slams all of these assholes that got wealthy
off of his brilliance!

Whatever his thoughts were on Perry, that was back then.................has nothing to do with the person SP is now.

Exactly. I am sorry Andrew did this interview. I'm sure the people who read this forum will get great enjoyment out of the tabloid fodder. However, the casual Journey fan who reads it will be disillusioned and confused as to how someone who became wealthy off this band and gave so much of himself to their success could think so little of them. HH gave Fan Asylum our start. We owe him big time. He was always really good to me as a fan and then an employee. However, I do not understand who he is now nor do I want to. Bitter, angry, negative, nasty. Why?

I love Journey. I love the music and my memories of my time with them. I lived it for many years, as a fan and as an employee. I could do a tell all interview too, and include things that I saw HH do back in the day that aren't very nice. But I would never do that. Why? Because it is no one's fucking business.

It doesn't matter to me who thinks Steve Perry was a prick in 1986. Or which band member's girlfriend got in a fight with who back in 1983. This kind of crap is well beneath the dignity of the brilliant man HH used to be. He's such an amazing story teller - I used to love to listen to his stories - it's too bad that all the wonderful things that happened to him and Journey for all those years has come down to this.

So, have a ball reading the interview. Have a great time tearing people apart that you don't know. Come up with new and creative names to call Steve Perry. See how many people you can hurt in the process. Knock yourselves out.

[Rick]

I'm sure the people who read this forum will get great enjoyment out of the tabloid fodder.

I understand your point, but Andrew doesn't produce tabloid fodder. He's a respected music journalist.

Another thought. No matter what the interview says, we'll still love SP. Can't change that. The thing about journalism is, it's up to each person to get all viewpoints and opinions and then make up their own minds. People don't want to just read the sunshine and roses stuff. They want to read about peoples human side as well. The HH interview may surprise us all and be much better natured than we think.

[slucero]

If Herbie comes on as a rich bitter old dude that once again wants to trash talk Steve then that's not the
kind of publicity Journey needs, he will be doing them absolutely no favors.

I really hope Steve Perry comes out some day and slams all of these assholes that got wealthy
off of his brilliance!

Whatever his thoughts were on Perry, that was back then.................has nothing to do with the person SP is now.

Exactly. I am sorry Andrew did this interview. I'm sure the people who read this forum will get great enjoyment out of the tabloid fodder. However, the casual Journey fan who reads it will be disillusioned and confused as to how someone who became wealthy off this band and gave so much of himself to their success could think so little of them. HH gave Fan Asylum our start. We owe him big time. He was always really good to me as a fan and then an employee. However, I do not understand who he is now nor do I want to. Bitter, angry, negative, nasty. Why?

I love Journey. I love the music and my memories of my time with them. I lived it for many years, as a fan and as an employee. I could do a tell all interview too, and include things that I saw HH do back in the day that aren't very nice. But I would never do that. Why? Because it is no one's fucking business.

It doesn't matter to me who thinks Steve Perry was a prick in 1986. Or which band member's girlfriend got in a fight with who back in 1983. This kind of crap is well beneath the dignity of the brilliant man HH used to be. He's such an amazing story teller - I used to love to listen to his stories - it's too bad that all the wonderful things that happened to him and Journey for all those years has come down to this.

So, have a ball reading the interview. Have a great time tearing people apart that you don't know. Come up with new and creative names to call Steve Perry. See how many people you can hurt in the process. Knock yourselves out.

... all kidding aside.... it's what Journey fans have been doing for years isn't it?

[cookieduster]

I'm sure the people who read this forum will get great enjoyment out of the tabloid fodder.

I understand your point, but Andrew doesn't produce tabloid fodder. He's a respected music journalist.

Another thought. No matter what the interview says, we'll still love SP. Can't change that. The thing about journalism is, it's up to each person to get all viewpoints and opinions and then make up their own minds. People don't want to just read the sunshine and roses stuff. They want to read about peoples human side as well. The HH interview may surprise us all and be much better natured than we think.

[WALEX]

I can't believe that HH would lower himself to this extent. I won't believe it. He know's that he would lose the respect of millions of Journey fans. He has so many people who care for him for all he has accomplished and he could lose it all by acting the fool. The guys in the band accomplished so much for him and if this interview is less than stellar, he will be the loser, in a big way.

[Lora]

I'm sure the people who read this forum will get great enjoyment out of the tabloid fodder.

I understand your point, but Andrew doesn't produce tabloid fodder. He's a respected music journalist.

Another thought. No matter what the interview says, we'll still love SP. Can't change that. The thing about journalism is, it's up to each person to get all viewpoints and opinions and then make up their own minds. People don't want to just read the sunshine and roses stuff. They want to read about peoples human side as well. The HH interview may surprise us all and be much better natured than we think.

I hear ya, Rick. I'm not talking about a fluff piece that is all roses. And I don't think this interview is going to change anyone's opinion of SP or anyone else in Journey. But discussing very personal things that went on in the lives of band members is inappropriate in my opinion.

[Sassie]

There is absolutely nothing and nobody that can change my opinion about SP. NO ONE!!!!!!!!!!

[Lora]

Serious side... After much thought, my (perceived ) hostility towards SP stems from my abject broken heart over the failure of the "One More Time" Reunion tour with him. Or whatever it would have been called, you get my drift.
As a person, I found him to be as warm and genuine as any of the others at the time, and perhaps a bit more self aware than some give credit for. After sitting in an adjoining room for months on end, documenting the songs and making copies, being monitor engineer and idea backstop, I have a deep abiding appreciation for his abilities that cannot be shaken, despite being PO'd about what wasn't to be.
Those conflicting emotions are not self cancelling nor mutually exclusive.They are Emotions, and are by definition, beyond reason.

The relationships that were shared went through enourmous changes over time, and having spent a fair bit away from "the biz" has given me a much more philosophical point of view.

Put it like this, I MIGHT go into business with him ( good work ethic, proven earner) but I wouldn't go camping with him (falls off of trails). liable to chop his damn hand off. stick himself with a fishhook. have to go back to town. ruin the whole weekend. know what I mean?
Or iput another way.....
He would advance on Celebrity Apprentice but loose on Surviving Ted Nugent. on second thought , he's liable to reach deep down and recall that farm boy stuff and kick some ass.
Steve's alright, no matter what I say about him. I hope he knows I would never do him wrong and never have I wished him ill, despite my angry outbursts. Anyone who knows me knows thats part of my "fun pak" .


What is said doesn't matter as much as what one has done. And I'll always say we worked well together, and he is a Master at what he does. What we DID was "Trial By Fire". In more ways than one.

Wow. Just.....wow. I hope you are doing well....it sure sounds like you are in a good place. I think fondly of the times we hung out together.

[larryfromnextdoor]

Serious side... After much thought, my (perceived ) hostility towards SP stems from my abject broken heart over the failure of the "One More Time" Reunion tour with him. Or whatever it would have been called, you get my drift.
As a person, I found him to be as warm and genuine as any of the others at the time, and perhaps a bit more self aware than some give credit for. After sitting in an adjoining room for months on end, documenting the songs and making copies, being monitor engineer and idea backstop, I have a deep abiding appreciation for his abilities that cannot be shaken, despite being PO'd about what wasn't to be.
Those conflicting emotions are not self cancelling nor mutually exclusive.They are Emotions, and are by definition, beyond reason.

The relationships that were shared went through enourmous changes over time, and having spent a fair bit away from "the biz" has given me a much more philosophical point of view.

Put it like this, I MIGHT go into business with him ( good work ethic, proven earner) but I wouldn't go camping with him (falls off of trails). liable to chop his damn hand off. stick himself with a fishhook. have to go back to town. ruin the whole weekend. know what I mean?
Or iput another way.....
He would advance on Celebrity Apprentice but loose on Surviving Ted Nugent. on second thought , he's liable to reach deep down and recall that farm boy stuff and kick some ass.
Steve's alright, no matter what I say about him. I hope he knows I would never do him wrong and never have I wished him ill, despite my angry outbursts. Anyone who knows me knows thats part of my "fun pak" .


What is said doesn't matter as much as what one has done. And I'll always say we worked well together, and he is a Master at what he does. What we DID was "Trial By Fire". In more ways than one.

Wow. Just.....wow. I hope you are doing well....it sure sounds like you are in a good place. I think fondly of the times we hung out together.

i just cant imagine that all you swell folks either discovered each other or re-found one another again on these forums of andrews.. i have to say that im just honored to be one of those among.. its pretty cool..

[fredinator]

Hmmm, is Herbie going to delve into their private lives? I'm not very fond of that kind of thing; I hope not. An explanation of why SP didn't call anyone for 10 years might be interesting, you know band info, but spilling private things makes me uncomfortable. Does he do that Andrew, if you can say?

[Marabelle]

The only thing consistent is change. People change; times change and opinions and thoughts change. Yet some people refuse to live in the present and instead some still live in the past. I have no idea what HH is going to talk about and I'm not going to crucify him until I read what he has to say. Nor am I going to allow anything he has to say change my thoughts on anyone or any event; he's just a man with his own perspective. That's life. He's big and boisterous. He's larger than life. He's loud. He's frank and he's a man who likes controversy. He'll have his say and it'll generate more discussion and more fodder about the band. If he is any good and if he does it right then the band gets a bit more attention; the fans get to dig in a bit deeper and become more fierce in their loyalty for one side or the other and SP will get hung out there for praise or criticism. SP has been dissected, devoured, crucified and vilified for years. Rightfully or wrongfully. The interview is not going to do anything besides stir things up for a couple of days then people will move on to something else. May be there will be reconciliations along the way; heartfelt comments and rekindling of old relationships. Perhaps not. Perhaps it is just another season of change with HH's prophecies and predictions. Good or bad, right or wrong; the spotlight is going to be on HH; he likes it there. We're just here for the ride.

[mistiejourney]

If Herbie comes on as a rich bitter old dude that once again wants to trash talk Steve then that's not the
kind of publicity Journey needs, he will be doing them absolutely no favors.

I really hope Steve Perry comes out some day and slams all of these assholes that got wealthy
off of his brilliance!

Get ready, because what you will hear from Herbie is exactly what you just said.

This is going to be ugly, and I for one don't want to hear it. It is going to destroy this forum.

It seems this forum has lasted through a lot worse than a Herbie interview! What could he say that would destroy the forum? That Perry isn't a perfect man, that he may have had some selfish tendencies back in the day? Okay, been there, heard that. That he never thought JSS was right for the band? Okay, that opinion has been heard here before. Maybe he thinks Arnel is God's Gift to Journey? Hey, we all agree the guy is talented, even if Journey has lost some luster for some of us, right?

We're going to hear things that have been said by one or another of us at any given time, only it will be from someone who was there from the beginning and in Herbie's own inimitable style!

I've been here ten months, and from what I can gather this forum has been here through thick and thin. There's nothing Herbie can say that will blow it apart, but I will be expecting some serious debating after the interview!

To quote a great philosopher: "I know, it's only rock-and-roll, but I like it!"