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Postby WalrusOct9 » Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:23 am

Am I allowed to say that I love Yes and Bruce Springsteen and think they both do awesome shows? :lol:
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Postby LtVanish » Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:31 am

conversationpc wrote:
LtVanish wrote:I think the best Yes album is Relayer. The Gates of Delirium is an epic, I would love to see them pull this one out for this tour.


They played it on the Masterworks tour in 2000. That's the only time I've heard them do the full version, rather than just playing "Soon".


8 years later they are due, fingers will be crossed. They usually mix it up pretty good.
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Postby brandonx76 » Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:03 am

froy wrote:
They asked Trevor he said he was to busy this time around..


Probably busy making an 's' load of money doing soundtrack work for Hollywood. Waiting for his next solo album. Lou Molina is a monster behind the kit
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Postby johnroxx » Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:49 am

brandonpfn wrote:
froy wrote:
They asked Trevor he said he was to busy this time around..


Probably busy making an 's' load of money doing soundtrack work for Hollywood. Waiting for his next solo album. Lou Molina is a monster behind the kit


Most recent was the "National Treasure" sequel; next up is "Get Smart."

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Postby ProgRocker53 » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:45 am

Dude I love Yes.

I'm going to try to hit them up when they roll through Ohio for sure.
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Postby Gordon from Edinburgh » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:55 am

STORY_TELLER wrote:90125 was a killer album. Amazing tracks, amazing musicianship.


Although i am a huge YES fan - i have to agree - i think the Trevor Rabin era was the best - just cos it rocked a bit more.......
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Postby conversationpc » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:01 am

Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:90125 was a killer album. Amazing tracks, amazing musicianship.


Although i am a huge YES fan - i have to agree - i think the Trevor Rabin era was the best - just cos it rocked a bit more.......


No way...It wasn't as eclectic, that's for sure, but there are plenty of passages from classic Yes that rock hard.
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Postby Gordon from Edinburgh » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:23 am

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No way...It wasn't as eclectic, that's for sure, but there are plenty of passages from classic Yes that rock hard.[/quote]

SteveHowe's electric sound bores me - its too twee - but the great thing about his solo is you can nip out the auditorium for a smoke............
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Postby 7 Wishes » Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:01 pm

"Tales From Topographic Oceans." Masterpiece.
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Yes and Air Supply

Postby Musician95616 » Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:30 am

The Air Supply connections come via Billy Sherwood, who was briefly a member of Yes around 1997 or so.
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Re: Yes and Air Supply

Postby brandonx76 » Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:46 am

Musician95616 wrote:The Air Supply connections come via Billy Sherwood, who was briefly a member of Yes around 1997 or so.


Ok - to clarify, what did Billy supposedly say? (i.e. which guitar player from yes was having an affair with someone from Air Supply?)
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Postby strangegrey » Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:30 am

Lots of great stories about how much of a complete prick Steve Howe is. Wakeman's probably sitting out this tour because at his age, tolerating Howe's ego with zero licks to support it, is just not worth it. Although...Rick definitely earns the dick award for sending his son in his place. That's like asking your brother to dance with your new mother-in-law at your wedding, so you dont have to.
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Postby strangegrey » Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:31 am

Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:90125 was a killer album. Amazing tracks, amazing musicianship.


Although i am a huge YES fan - i have to agree - i think the Trevor Rabin era was the best - just cos it rocked a bit more.......


And it didn't have the UK's biggest dicknozzle, Steve Howe in the lineup.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:32 pm

I met Howe during the first Payne-era Asia tour at Toad's Place in New Haven, back in '93. The dude played the most flat-out mind-bogglingly perfect acoustic set between the first and second half of the show. And he was a consummate gentleman after the show - talked to us (a bunch of drunk college boys) for a good ten minutes.
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Postby AlienC » Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:38 pm

strangegrey wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:90125 was a killer album. Amazing tracks, amazing musicianship.


Although i am a huge YES fan - i have to agree - i think the Trevor Rabin era was the best - just cos it rocked a bit more.......


And it didn't have the UK's biggest dicknozzle, Steve Howe in the lineup.

Well, he was certainly better behaved than a certain OTHER guitar player, when I met him. Like 7 Wishes says, he was a consumate gentleman.

Jon Anderson was a Diva, tho. Good Gravy what a pretentious little twat.

I never "got" Trevor Rabin. Lost me on his stuff, and I think 90125 was the biggest fart they've ever laid. BORING. DERIVATIVE.
I pretty much think they peaked with RELAYER.
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:42 pm

AlienC wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:90125 was a killer album. Amazing tracks, amazing musicianship.


Although i am a huge YES fan - i have to agree - i think the Trevor Rabin era was the best - just cos it rocked a bit more.......


And it didn't have the UK's biggest dicknozzle, Steve Howe in the lineup.

I never "got" Trevor Rabin. Lost me on his stuff, and I think 90125 was the biggest fart they've ever laid. BORING. DERIVATIVE.
I pretty much think they peaked with RELAYER
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AGREED! I still dig some stuff from Rabin-era every now and again, but for the most part it's all a giant snore.

1968-1978, is the best YES era to me...
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Postby Matthew » Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:50 pm

AlienC wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:90125 was a killer album. Amazing tracks, amazing musicianship.


Although i am a huge YES fan - i have to agree - i think the Trevor Rabin era was the best - just cos it rocked a bit more.......


And it didn't have the UK's biggest dicknozzle, Steve Howe in the lineup.

Well, he was certainly better behaved than a certain OTHER guitar player, when I met him. Like 7 Wishes says, he was a consumate gentleman.

Jon Anderson was a Diva, tho. Good Gravy what a pretentious little twat.

I never "got" Trevor Rabin. Lost me on his stuff, and I think 90125 was the biggest fart they've ever laid. BORING. DERIVATIVE.
I pretty much think they peaked with RELAYER.



I reckon that the peak of Yes' 70s career was "Awaken" from Going For The One but Relayer was possibly the last entire album that really delivered in that era. Agree on Jon Anderson being pretentious little twat and a Diva but that's just part of the band's charm. Somehow it just wouldn't be Yes if Anderson wasn't chirping on about "high vibrations" and "the wings of celestial seasons" and other such nonsense.

As for the Rabin era...okay, I can accept you find it boring...puzzling though given that you post on an AOR messageboard...but "derivative"? Sorry..I just don't get that at all.

The 90125 album was such a ground-breaking record in terms of the production and the arrangements and they brilliantly managed to give all the relatively mainstream songs a progressive twist in a much more imaginative way than - say - Asia were ever able to. Also - you've got to admire any band that can reinvent themselves and move with the times and still be hugely successful. I'd put Rabin era Yes on a par with Rush in the 1980s and early 1990s...and Yes had better quality control given how many so-so album tracks Rush were releasing at that time.

But maybe I'm missing something here. What was the Rabin era was derivative of?
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Postby conversationpc » Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:26 pm

Matthew wrote:I reckon that the peak of Yes' 70s career was "Awaken" from Going For The One but Relayer was possibly the last entire album that really delivered in that era.


"Awaken" certainly is a masterpiece but I enjoy that whole "Going for the One" album even besides that tune. "Machine Messiah" nearly matches "Awaken", though, in my opinion.

The 90125 album was such a ground-breaking record in terms of the production and the arrangements and they brilliantly managed to give all the relatively mainstream songs a progressive twist in a much more imaginative way than - say - Asia were ever able to. Also - you've got to admire any band that can reinvent themselves and move with the times and still be hugely successful. I'd put Rabin era Yes on a par with Rush in the 1980s and early 1990s...and Yes had better quality control given how many so-so album tracks Rush were releasing at that time.


Disagree. I like Rush's 80s and early 90s output better. I like "90125" but can't stand "Big Generator", which is their worst album since "Time and a Word", in my opinion.
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Postby Matthew » Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:54 pm

conversationpc wrote:
"Awaken" certainly is a masterpiece but I enjoy that whole "Going for the One" album even besides that tune.



Yes - me too - but as an album it isn't quite as consistently stunning as the Relayer album.

"Machine Messiah" nearly matches "Awaken", though, in my opinion.


Dave - that has to be one of your most eccentric opinions to date....

Disagree. I like Rush's 80s and early 90s output better. I like "90125" but can't stand "Big Generator", which is their worst album since "Time and a Word", in my opinion.


Say what you like about Big Generator but no-one can deny that Yes were still following their own path in 1987. Nothing derivative here. They were still willing to experiment with the arrangements and the production, and three or four of the songs were more 'progressive' than any of the tracks on 90125 with the exception of "Cinema". In fact, "Final Eyes" has to be one of the greatest Yes tracks ever recorded....

Shame they lost their nerve and decided to drearily recreate the past on the Union album instead of pressing forward under Rabin's guidance. Now that record was the worst since "Time and a Word"....
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Postby conversationpc » Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:15 pm

Matthew wrote:
"Machine Messiah" nearly matches "Awaken", though, in my opinion.


Dave - that has to be one of your most eccentric opinions to date....
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I've heard lots of Yes fans express their appreciation for that song, regardless of the lack of involvement from Jon Anderson, Rick Wakeman, etc.

Say what you like about Big Generator but no-one can deny that Yes were still following their own path in 1987. Nothing derivative here. They were still willing to experiment with the arrangements and the production, and three or four of the songs were more 'progressive' than any of the tracks on 90125 with the exception of "Cinema". In fact, "Final Eyes" has to be one of the greatest Yes tracks ever recorded....


I'm not saying that record didn't sound like Yes and Yes alone. However, I can't think of one song from it that really impresses me all that much.

Shame they lost their nerve and decided to drearily recreate the past on the Union album instead of pressing forward under Rabin's guidance. Now that record was the worst since "Time and a Word"....


Agreed. "Union" isn't much better and it's more disjointed than it is a "Union".
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