Revelation tracklist

[Barb]

There is no emotion, there is no passion for these songs from this band anymore.

I will say that I saw a LOT of "going through the motions" in Vegas. It's something I really wish they'd work on.

I keep comparing it to when I saw Garth Brooks a couple of months ago, who was really my only other concert besides Journey in years, but he was a-mazing. Puts his heart and soul into the songs and you can see that he truly loved performing that night. Journey barely moves, smiles, or talks to/engages the audience. Arnel tries, at least, but I felt bad for him because he wasn't getting much response from his bandmates.

I know, though, that Garth doesn't actually tour and Journey does, so they'd naturally be more... bored? with their sets. But it's disappointing in comparison.

This point was sure confirmed last night. Went to a Bon Jovi concert. Never was a huge fan, but our family gave my sister tickets for Christmas and I got to be the one to take her.

It was a frickin' amazing concert. First, it was "an event", not just a concert. Jon (sp? help me spell checkers!) laid it all out there. He had to be exhausted. He was an entertainer. He had the sell out crowd goin from the first note. The flow of the concert, the tremendous stage set-up, great use of video boards that floated all over the place, bringing Daughtry up to sing with them for a song, singing a song from the back of the arena ...I could go on. Like I said, I have never been a Bon Jovi fan. I don't think I own one album and was completely impressed. Richie seemed fairly sober and did a good job as well. I just stood there the whole concert thinking about slipping Journey into this setting and seeing what they could do.

If they are going to headline this tour this summer, I hope the production builds them up to be the "headliner." Throwing out a little light rig and letting them play is a little ho-hum. If they want to do that, they need to do more intimate settings (clubs, Performing Arts Theaters, etc). If going to do arenas, lets do it up right!

That sounds like a great show! How was Chris Daughtry's performance? I've yet to see that guy in concert!

[NealIsGod]

Why is everyone so uptight about the re-records? It's not like they have a shred of integrity left anyway.

Did you buy the Chalfant record?

Nope. Why should I? Got the originals and they still sound pretty damn good to me.

Thanks for answering for me. You got it right.

[Michigan Girl]

There is no emotion, there is no passion for these songs from this band anymore.

I will say that I saw a LOT of "going through the motions" in Vegas. It's something I really wish they'd work on.

I keep comparing it to when I saw Garth Brooks a couple of months ago, who was really my only other concert besides Journey in years, but he was a-mazing. Puts his heart and soul into the songs and you can see that he truly loved performing that night. Journey barely moves, smiles, or talks to/engages the audience. Arnel tries, at least, but I felt bad for him because he wasn't getting much response from his bandmates.

I know, though, that Garth doesn't actually tour and Journey does, so they'd naturally be more... bored? with their sets. But it's disappointing in comparison.

This point was sure confirmed last night. Went to a Bon Jovi concert. Never was a huge fan, but our family gave my sister tickets for Christmas and I got to be the one to take her.

It was a frickin' amazing concert. First, it was "an event", not just a concert. Jon (sp? help me spell checkers!) laid it all out there. He had to be exhausted. He was an entertainer. He had the sell out crowd goin from the first note. The flow of the concert, the tremendous stage set-up, great use of video boards that floated all over the place, bringing Daughtry up to sing with them for a song, singing a song from the back of the arena ...I could go on. Like I said, I have never been a Bon Jovi fan. I don't think I own one album and was completely impressed. Richie seemed fairly sober and did a good job as well. I just stood there the whole concert thinking about slipping Journey into this setting and seeing what they could do.

If they are going to headline this tour this summer, I hope the production builds them up to be the "headliner." Throwing out a little light rig and letting them play is a little ho-hum. If they want to do that, they need to do more intimate settings (clubs, Performing Arts Theaters, etc). If going to do arenas, lets do it up right!

That sounds like a great show! How was Chris Daughtry's performance? I've yet to see that guy in concert!

Not trying to answer for hoagiepete...but Daughtry was SPECTACULAR as was BJ!!! I saw them in Dallas and hoagiepete described my experience PERFECTLY!!! Great to hear they are CONSISTENT!!

[fightingilliniJRNY]

If they are going to headline this tour this summer, I hope the production builds them up to be the "headliner." Throwing out a little light rig and letting them play is a little ho-hum. If they want to do that, they need to do more intimate settings (clubs, Performing Arts Theaters, etc). If going to do arenas, lets do it up right!

I feel the exact same way and mentioned it in a thread a while back. They are billed as the headliners for this tour. PROVE that you are the headliner with production. I compare it to the Def Leppard / Journey tour of 2006. It was billed as "co-headlining" but everyone knew that Def Lep was the headliner.

[hoagiepete]

There is no emotion, there is no passion for these songs from this band anymore.

I will say that I saw a LOT of "going through the motions" in Vegas. It's something I really wish they'd work on.

I keep comparing it to when I saw Garth Brooks a couple of months ago, who was really my only other concert besides Journey in years, but he was a-mazing. Puts his heart and soul into the songs and you can see that he truly loved performing that night. Journey barely moves, smiles, or talks to/engages the audience. Arnel tries, at least, but I felt bad for him because he wasn't getting much response from his bandmates.

I know, though, that Garth doesn't actually tour and Journey does, so they'd naturally be more... bored? with their sets. But it's disappointing in comparison.

This point was sure confirmed last night. Went to a Bon Jovi concert. Never was a huge fan, but our family gave my sister tickets for Christmas and I got to be the one to take her.

It was a frickin' amazing concert. First, it was "an event", not just a concert. Jon (sp? help me spell checkers!) laid it all out there. He had to be exhausted. He was an entertainer. He had the sell out crowd goin from the first note. The flow of the concert, the tremendous stage set-up, great use of video boards that floated all over the place, bringing Daughtry up to sing with them for a song, singing a song from the back of the arena ...I could go on. Like I said, I have never been a Bon Jovi fan. I don't think I own one album and was completely impressed. Richie seemed fairly sober and did a good job as well. I just stood there the whole concert thinking about slipping Journey into this setting and seeing what they could do.

If they are going to headline this tour this summer, I hope the production builds them up to be the "headliner." Throwing out a little light rig and letting them play is a little ho-hum. If they want to do that, they need to do more intimate settings (clubs, Performing Arts Theaters, etc). If going to do arenas, lets do it up right!

That sounds like a great show! How was Chris Daughtry's performance? I've yet to see that guy in concert!

Not trying to answer for hoagiepete...but Daughtry was SPECTACULAR as was BJ!!! I saw them in Dallas and hoagiepete described my experience PERFECTLY!!! Great to hear they are CONSISTENT!!

No problem. Glad you agreed with me. Daughtry was very strong, a real talent and got a great reaction from the fans. The thing that jumped out at me was how comfortable Jon Bon Jovi was having him join in on a song. Didn't seem the least bit threatened and seemed to enjoy giving Daughtry the pub. Class act.

[txfirefighter]

There is no emotion, there is no passion for these songs from this band anymore.

I will say that I saw a LOT of "going through the motions" in Vegas. It's something I really wish they'd work on.

I keep comparing it to when I saw Garth Brooks a couple of months ago, who was really my only other concert besides Journey in years, but he was a-mazing. Puts his heart and soul into the songs and you can see that he truly loved performing that night. Journey barely moves, smiles, or talks to/engages the audience. Arnel tries, at least, but I felt bad for him because he wasn't getting much response from his bandmates.

I know, though, that Garth doesn't actually tour and Journey does, so they'd naturally be more... bored? with their sets. But it's disappointing in comparison.

This point was sure confirmed last night. Went to a Bon Jovi concert. Never was a huge fan, but our family gave my sister tickets for Christmas and I got to be the one to take her.

It was a frickin' amazing concert. First, it was "an event", not just a concert. Jon (sp? help me spell checkers!) laid it all out there. He had to be exhausted. He was an entertainer. He had the sell out crowd goin from the first note. The flow of the concert, the tremendous stage set-up, great use of video boards that floated all over the place, bringing Daughtry up to sing with them for a song, singing a song from the back of the arena ...I could go on. Like I said, I have never been a Bon Jovi fan. I don't think I own one album and was completely impressed. Richie seemed fairly sober and did a good job as well. I just stood there the whole concert thinking about slipping Journey into this setting and seeing what they could do.

If they are going to headline this tour this summer, I hope the production builds them up to be the "headliner." Throwing out a little light rig and letting them play is a little ho-hum. If they want to do that, they need to do more intimate settings (clubs, Performing Arts Theaters, etc). If going to do arenas, lets do it up right!

That sounds like a great show! How was Chris Daughtry's performance? I've yet to see that guy in concert!

Not trying to answer for hoagiepete...but Daughtry was SPECTACULAR as was BJ!!! I saw them in Dallas and hoagiepete described my experience PERFECTLY!!! Great to hear they are CONSISTENT!!

I was also at the Dallas show, and it was truly AMAZING. Jon is a GREAT performer, and Daughtry kicked some serious butt!!

[Michigan Girl]

There is no emotion, there is no passion for these songs from this band anymore.

I will say that I saw a LOT of "going through the motions" in Vegas. It's something I really wish they'd work on.

I keep comparing it to when I saw Garth Brooks a couple of months ago, who was really my only other concert besides Journey in years, but he was a-mazing. Puts his heart and soul into the songs and you can see that he truly loved performing that night. Journey barely moves, smiles, or talks to/engages the audience. Arnel tries, at least, but I felt bad for him because he wasn't getting much response from his bandmates.

I know, though, that Garth doesn't actually tour and Journey does, so they'd naturally be more... bored? with their sets. But it's disappointing in comparison.

This point was sure confirmed last night. Went to a Bon Jovi concert. Never was a huge fan, but our family gave my sister tickets for Christmas and I got to be the one to take her.

It was a frickin' amazing concert. First, it was "an event", not just a concert. Jon (sp? help me spell checkers!) laid it all out there. He had to be exhausted. He was an entertainer. He had the sell out crowd goin from the first note. The flow of the concert, the tremendous stage set-up, great use of video boards that floated all over the place, bringing Daughtry up to sing with them for a song, singing a song from the back of the arena ...I could go on. Like I said, I have never been a Bon Jovi fan. I don't think I own one album and was completely impressed. Richie seemed fairly sober and did a good job as well. I just stood there the whole concert thinking about slipping Journey into this setting and seeing what they could do.

If they are going to headline this tour this summer, I hope the production builds them up to be the "headliner." Throwing out a little light rig and letting them play is a little ho-hum. If they want to do that, they need to do more intimate settings (clubs, Performing Arts Theaters, etc). If going to do arenas, lets do it up right!

That sounds like a great show! How was Chris Daughtry's performance? I've yet to see that guy in concert!

Not trying to answer for hoagiepete...but Daughtry was SPECTACULAR as was BJ!!! I saw them in Dallas and hoagiepete described my experience PERFECTLY!!! Great to hear they are CONSISTENT!!

I was also at the Dallas show, and it was truly AMAZING. Jon is a GREAT performer, and Daughtry kicked some serious butt!!

BUT We didn't get to hear Daughtry and JBJ perform together???? I wonder if that's something new they worked into the act after OR if they only do that occasionally???
Scarygirl saw them in Carolina (can't remember which one) She gave us a review of
her experience, which was BEFORE the Dallas show...maybe she can tell us if they performed together there!! IT WAS GREAT!!

[mistiejourney]

Cd2: Only The Young; Don't Stop Believin'; Wheel In The Sky; Faithfully; Any Way You Want It; Who's Crying Now; Separate Ways (Worlds Apart); Lights; Open Arms; Be Good To Yourself; Stone In Love.

God damn it.

Especially the last one.

And you know... considering what's happened with DSB in the last few years, and the reminder to everyone through TWO big resurgances that it was and still IS a fucking icon of a song, I'm surprised they even touch it. That's like the Pope going "you know what, I think I can do a better job on this so-called Bible, let me have a crack at it."

DID NOT NEED TO BE TOUCHED.

That's how I feel about "Lights".

[jrnyman28]

GHL was put out there because the fans wanted something and they weren't getting a Journey Tour.

It has nothing to do with a tour, or lack thereof. It is simply a contract filler to get Perry out of a record contract with the band. That way, Journey is free to hire a singer and move on, and Perry can do whatever he wants to do whenever he so chooses.

Sony and Perry/Journey only had a ONE CD contract at that time. It was not a contract filler. And I heard it said many times "officially" that it was put out to keep the fans interested while they were trying to figure out Perry's situation...

[jrnyman28]

There is no emotion, there is no passion for these songs from this band anymore.

I will say that I saw a LOT of "going through the motions" in Vegas. It's something I really wish they'd work on.

I keep comparing it to when I saw Garth Brooks a couple of months ago, who was really my only other concert besides Journey in years, but he was a-mazing. Puts his heart and soul into the songs and you can see that he truly loved performing that night. Journey barely moves, smiles, or talks to/engages the audience. Arnel tries, at least, but I felt bad for him because he wasn't getting much response from his bandmates.

I know, though, that Garth doesn't actually tour and Journey does, so they'd naturally be more... bored? with their sets. But it's disappointing in comparison.

The band has lloked like that since about 2004 except when JSS took the stage. They looked "alive" (except Cain). JSS brought the fire.

[Tomulator]

Cd2: Only The Young; Don't Stop Believin'; Wheel In The Sky; Faithfully; Any Way You Want It; Who's Crying Now; Separate Ways (Worlds Apart); Lights; Open Arms; Be Good To Yourself; Stone In Love.

God damn it.

Especially the last one.

And you know... considering what's happened with DSB in the last few years, and the reminder to everyone through TWO big resurgances that it was and still IS a fucking icon of a song, I'm surprised they even touch it. That's like the Pope going "you know what, I think I can do a better job on this so-called Bible, let me have a crack at it."

DID NOT NEED TO BE TOUCHED.

AMEN

[Red13JoePa]

There is no emotion, there is no passion for these songs from this band anymore.

I will say that I saw a LOT of "going through the motions" in Vegas.

The band has lloked like that since about 2004 except when JSS took the stage. They looked "alive" (except Cain). JSS brought the fire.

This shit's an overrated non-issue.
They've NEVER been animated on stage.

perry moved around, JSS moved around but they've NEVER been all jacked up and showboaty.
They have the musical chops not to need to be.

[WalrusOct9]

I'm kinda glad they're re-recording FITH...Kevin Shirley will make that song sound great, methinks. It belongs on the other disc, for sure, but I think it will be a far superior recording to the sonic mess that was Generations.

[jrnyman28]

There is no emotion, there is no passion for these songs from this band anymore.

I will say that I saw a LOT of "going through the motions" in Vegas.

The band has lloked like that since about 2004 except when JSS took the stage. They looked "alive" (except Cain). JSS brought the fire.

This shit's an overrated non-issue.
They've NEVER been animated on stage.

perry moved around, JSS moved around but they've NEVER been all jacked up and showboaty.
They have the musical chops not to need to be.

That may be. But there was a noticable electricity with Journey when JSS was on stage. But I will tell you that the Under The Radar show I saw in 2003 was PHENOMINAL. But since then it looked like something was missing...except with JSS. Now, according to some, it has returned to looking like something is missing. Do I care? Not really. If the sound is great, the setlist is great, than I am great. Except I am not sold on Arnel live yet, and the Denver show is the FIRST show of the tour and Arnel's what? 6th show with the band. For once I wish the tour started elsewhere and gave Arnel more time to find his groove.

[E5C4P3 4 U]

He has the whole European Tour to find his "Groove" before they come to the US...........

[jrnyman28]

He has the whole European Tour to find his "Groove" before they come to the US...........

Ah yes, you are correct. 14 more shows. I will defiantely be looking forward to boots and reviews. But the sad thing is the way the concert biz works nowadays, if I want decent seats I needed to buy them the day the show was announced. And I don't have that kind of dough laying around waiting for a concert. I need time to put it together...

[NealIsGod]

There is no emotion, there is no passion for these songs from this band anymore.

I will say that I saw a LOT of "going through the motions" in Vegas.

The band has lloked like that since about 2004 except when JSS took the stage. They looked "alive" (except Cain). JSS brought the fire.

This shit's an overrated non-issue.
They've NEVER been animated on stage.

perry moved around, JSS moved around but they've NEVER been all jacked up and showboaty.
They have the musical chops not to need to be.

That may be. But there was a noticable electricity with Journey when JSS was on stage. But I will tell you that the Under The Radar show I saw in 2003 was PHENOMINAL. But since then it looked like something was missing...except with JSS. Now, according to some, it has returned to looking like something is missing. Do I care? Not really. If the sound is great, the setlist is great, than I am great. Except I am not sold on Arnel live yet, and the Denver show is the FIRST show of the tour and Arnel's what? 6th show with the band. For once I wish the tour started elsewhere and gave Arnel more time to find his groove.

Once you've experienced that electricity, it's hard to go back.

[Deb]

There is no emotion, there is no passion for these songs from this band anymore.

I will say that I saw a LOT of "going through the motions" in Vegas.

The band has lloked like that since about 2004 except when JSS took the stage. They looked "alive" (except Cain). JSS brought the fire.

This shit's an overrated non-issue.
They've NEVER been animated on stage.

perry moved around, JSS moved around but they've NEVER been all jacked up and showboaty.
They have the musical chops not to need to be.

That may be. But there was a noticable electricity with Journey when JSS was on stage. But I will tell you that the Under The Radar show I saw in 2003 was PHENOMINAL. But since then it looked like something was missing...except with JSS. Now, according to some, it has returned to looking like something is missing. Do I care? Not really. If the sound is great, the setlist is great, than I am great. Except I am not sold on Arnel live yet, and the Denver show is the FIRST show of the tour and Arnel's what? 6th show with the band. For once I wish the tour started elsewhere and gave Arnel more time to find his groove.

Once you've experienced that electricity, it's hard to go back.

Totally agree with you both! I think I'm in the same boat as Dave on this one. While I like Arnel and I'm liking what I'm hearing of the new material...........that "fire" that they had LIVE is gone.

[ProgRocker53]

"Faith in the Heartland" sung by a Phillipino singer? Sorry, doesn't sound right to me.

As much as I love that song I agree with you.

I finally agree with you on something. Lets go smoke some Green main

I love how everyone thinks I'm a stoner.

[Michigan Girl]

Could account for all the activity in your head while sleeping????

[Sarah]

There is no emotion, there is no passion for these songs from this band anymore.

I will say that I saw a LOT of "going through the motions" in Vegas.

The band has lloked like that since about 2004 except when JSS took the stage. They looked "alive" (except Cain). JSS brought the fire.

This shit's an overrated non-issue.
They've NEVER been animated on stage.

perry moved around, JSS moved around but they've NEVER been all jacked up and showboaty.
They have the musical chops not to need to be.

They should at least try to look like they want to be there, though...

[Red13JoePa]

They should at least try to look like they want to be there, though...

Bah.

Just SOUND good and I'm aright.

[ProgRocker53]

They should at least try to look like they want to be there, though...

Bah.

Just SOUND good and I'm aright.

Agreed somewhat, but also it's hard to sell/emote/connect your song with the crowd/listener/viewer when you seem bored, stale, disinterested, and distant.

[annie89509]

Catching up with what everyone is saying and listening to the studio version of the 2 lead singles. Regarding the feeding of a rocker & ballad to radio stations, seems they're following the formula they used with TBF (MOL & WYLAW) and Arrival with Higher Place & All The Way.

Arnel has a good voice and he doesn't sing like SP, but just can't get over the fact that DWA sounds like BGTY and AATY sounds like WYLAW (to my ears). I hope the other songs in the record are different.

[EightyRock]

***Schon said: "I write mostly rock and Jonathan writes most of the ballads, but when you combine the chemistry of us together, you’ll find that it is the nucleus and sound of what is AND HAS BEEN JOURNEY."***


As a Journey fan, that has to be one of the most irritating and ignorant statements I've ever read from him....and I've read alot of them over the years. They should certainly take all the credit for any material they have created post-Perry. Go for it....brag up a storm! But they want to continually, year after year try to dismiss Perry's contribution to Journey. For that reason alone, they have zero credibility with me. Three singers later....they're still in denial.