All Revelation Sound Clips (so far)...

[Liam]

Liam, you can't review an album that hasn't even been released yet=unless you have an advanced copy?
the songs we've heard so far are EXACTLY Journey sounding, if you think they are boring then I guess you
aren't a Journey fan anymore. No matter what Jeremey's input was I'm sure he's proud of the song, you said it
was a rip off.

Like I've said before...if Neal/Jon can pick a lead singer off of youtube off of a couple of clips...I think I can judge this album by a few clips.
And I applaud Jeremey for what he did with the band.

Somebody got hired to play NFL football off of youtube this week, what's wrong with auditioning any way you can?

Mind telling me who that was??

[conversationpc]

They would rock harder if Cain was gone. Bring back Rolie, dammit. The only Revelation here is that the new CD is a snoozefest.

You can tell all that from a few seconds of demos?

I actually thought the same thing. It seemed BORING.

You Branch Ed-ians all thought the new album was going to suck long before you heard a single note of it. How closed-minded is that? Even Strangegrey, who has been louder in his disapproval of Journey than just about anyone recently, has said that the clips sound very promising.

[Liam]

I didn't think so. The guy was drafted by a damn computer. Stats were the reason, NOT youtube. SURE, replays and all that's on there...but do you HONESTLY think someone in the NFL said "hey...let's go on youtube and find our next great running back"?? NO

[Liam]

They would rock harder if Cain was gone. Bring back Rolie, dammit. The only Revelation here is that the new CD is a snoozefest.

You can tell all that from a few seconds of demos?

I actually thought the same thing. It seemed BORING.

You Branch Ed-ians all thought the new album was going to suck long before you heard a single note of it. How closed-minded is that? Even Strangegrey, who has been louder in his disapproval of Journey than just about anyone recently, has said that the clips sound very promising.

Dave...I'm going on my OWN opinion here. Those ARE still allowed here, right? I thought it sounded Boring.

[NealIsGod]

BUT...take a listen to that guitar riff in Seperate Ways. Fark, that's almost heavy enough to knock my block off. Playing with that style and vigor has been missing.

Higher Place is maybe where it has come closest to reappearing.

Out of Harm's Way rocks pretty hard, Drew. And everyone dismisses it cuz Ross sings it, but how about Gone Crazy?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Out of Harm's Way rocks pretty hard, Drew.

But it's melodic, too. Not just aimless shredding. I know this isn't Soul Sirkus or Hardline, but I had hoped for at least one or two new tracks in this same vein.

[NealIsGod]

Out of Harm's Way rocks pretty hard, Drew.

But it's melodic, too. Not just aimless shredding. I know this isn't Soul Sirkus or Hardline, but I had hoped for at least one or two new tracks in this same vein.

Yeah, me too, but I guess those days are over.

[Saint John]

Never Too Late and Believe In Me are both shit songs. I don't hear either one of those songs in NWA. I was in Vegas after the show and not one person there said they heard any such similarities. The "bitch hunt" here is laughable. It sounds like Be Good To Yourself, Believe In Me and Never Too Late? Dear Lord. Make up your fucking minds already.

Did I ever ONCE mention Be Good To Yourself in this conversation??

Did I say you did? The fact that I used the word "minds" shows that I was referring to more than one person and not you specifically. Paranoid much?

[Liam]

Never Too Late and Believe In Me are both shit songs. I don't hear either one of those songs in NWA. I was in Vegas after the show and not one person there said they heard any such similarities. The "bitch hunt" here is laughable. It sounds like Be Good To Yourself, Believe In Me and Never Too Late? Dear Lord. Make up your fucking minds already.

Did I ever ONCE mention Be Good To Yourself in this conversation??

Did I say you did? The fact that I used the word "minds" shows that I was referring to more than one person and not you specifically. Paranoid much?

Lately...yes.

[Saint John]

Never Too Late and Believe In Me are both shit songs. I don't hear either one of those songs in NWA. I was in Vegas after the show and not one person there said they heard any such similarities. The "bitch hunt" here is laughable. It sounds like Be Good To Yourself, Believe In Me and Never Too Late? Dear Lord. Make up your fucking minds already.

Did I ever ONCE mention Be Good To Yourself in this conversation??

Did I say you did? The fact that I used the word "minds" shows that I was referring to more than one person and not you specifically. Paranoid much?

Lately...yes.

Drink more. It works for me.

[Liam]

Never Too Late and Believe In Me are both shit songs. I don't hear either one of those songs in NWA. I was in Vegas after the show and not one person there said they heard any such similarities. The "bitch hunt" here is laughable. It sounds like Be Good To Yourself, Believe In Me and Never Too Late? Dear Lord. Make up your fucking minds already.

Did I ever ONCE mention Be Good To Yourself in this conversation??

Did I say you did? The fact that I used the word "minds" shows that I was referring to more than one person and not you specifically. Paranoid much?

Lately...yes.

Drink more. It works for me.

I'll try that. I've heard of this thing called "beer"....i think I might have to try it.

[Saint John]

One thing that almost everyone seems to be missing here folks is that Jeremey got his audition the exact same way Arnel did. Cain's daughter saw Jeremey on youtube and that got the ball rolling. Yes, Cain did go to see Jeremey perform, and I suspect he would have done so with Arnel if he wasn't halfway around the world. So instead they flew him in. It's the same thing. What the fuck is wrong with using modern technology anyway? Were Neal and Jon supposed to go audition people cleaning shit out of turkey coops or from Gap to Gap asking the regional maintenance managers to sing? Would that have been more "legit" for some of you?

[maverick218]

I'm encouraged by what little I have heard so far- my biggest surprise is how good Arnel sounds (and how much he sounds like Perry). Augeri was a great singer, but his voice never "got" me... Perry's did, and it's possible that Arnel will too, but I will wait and see until I hear the whole CD.
BTW- does anyone know why they rerecorded Faith in the Heartland?

[frfksakes]

(thanks for the clips, AlteredDNA )

They would rock harder if Cain was gone. Bring back Rolie, dammit. The only Revelation here is that the new CD is a snoozefest.

Haha, that's what I'm saying!!

Arnel's voice is just beautiful (ESP on "After all these years" - WOW!), and Neal has some nice guitar work peppered throughout - but there are just too many slow songs, for my taste.

I’m sure this has been said, but he often sounds more like Augeri than Perry, imo. Much fuller, though.

(though I do think he sounds like Perry on “where did I lose your love”- my second favorite)

& My favorite is “Like a sunshower.” Very pretty (reminded me a little of the ‘70s era Jrny with it’s groovy lyrics, lol.) It’s the only one I’ve been stuck on so far.

Personally, I think the gh was a bad idea. He does a good job, but they’re not as good as the originals, and they just emphasize the impersonation thing too much, imo. I mean, he does the inflections and everything….

Does this really change the royalties in some way?

[pinkvelvet]

One thing that almost everyone seems to be missing here folks is that Jeremey got his audition the exact same way Arnel did. Cain's daughter saw Jeremey on youtube and and that got the ball rolling. Yes, Cain did go to see Jeremey perform, and I suspect he would have done so with Arnel if he wasn't halfway around the world. So instead they flew him in. It's the same thing. What the fuck is wrong with using modern technology anyway? Were Neal and Jon supposed to go audition people cleaning shit out of turkey coops or from Gap to Gap asking the regional maintenance managers to sing? Would that have been more "legit" for some of you?

thats pretty funny. I like the new songs but it is a bit slow. Arnel's voice would sound realy good on more rockin songs. I stumbled on this ZOO video, I think its one of their originals, it sounds more rock n roll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFioizsgrlA

[Razor]

Hmmm I kinda like it.

'Change For The Better' and 'What It Takes To Win' sound very promising.

The rerecordings sound great in general.

[Red13JoePa]

'Change For The Better' and 'What It Takes To Win' sound very promising.

The rerecordings sound great in general.

Agree with all of the above, and will submit that of the CLIPS, WDILYL and WITTW are my favorites.

[tammy]

Thanks, again AlteredDNA for putting these together (esp. for us MAC users). Well, I'm loving these clips and I didn't think I would feel excited about Journey again...but, I am. I listen with headphones on and I am definitely feeling IT!

[Liquid_Drummer]

I dont miss Perry one bit and could care less if he ever sings again to be honest. Fuck him and the soap opera that follows him. Listening to these new clips I find that I am not thinking about who is singing and taking it all in as one package. I am not over analyzing it looking for blemishes. No matter how it charts it is the best thing they have done since Frontiers hand down (I hated ROR accept for 2 songs). Perry was important to the creation of the past songs but what I think has dawned on me is that maybe he isnt as important to that sound as I thought. I think that Arnel has his own sound and all together it sounds like GOOD Journey.

Lets face it. Its been said b4 and will be again. Perry cant do the old material and sure as hell could not sing the way Arnel is now. I dont care how many people he pays off, who claims to know him and say he can still sing etc.. I am sure he can still sing but he isnt doing it in public so I dont care..

I have moved on and fully accept the new Journey... Honestly if I miss anyone it is Smitty. His feel can not be duplicated by anyone and that is obvious on the remakes. They sound great but Smitty had that special lilt to his beats. I guess Deen makes up for it with those fantastic harmonies...

[frfksakes]

Perry cant do the old material and sure as hell could not sing the way Arnel is now.

you don't know that. Arnel's voice is beautiful on some of the new stuff, but even Perry's '94 versions of the ghs are better than Arnel's covers, imo. Whatever it is about Perry's voice that grabs me was still there in spades.

[Deb]

Never Too Late and Believe In Me are both shit songs. I don't hear either one of those songs in NWA.

You're kidding, just talking smack now right?! Both are great songs, you're probably one of the only ones I've heard say they didn't like Believe In Me, what is not to like about it? You're talking out your a$$ if you can't hear BIM in NWA.

[Deb]

Perry cant do the old material and sure as hell could not sing the way Arnel is now.

you don't know that. Arnel's voice is beautiful on some of the new stuff, but even Perry's '94 versions of the ghs are better than Arnel's covers, imo. Whatever it is about Perry's voice that grabs me was still there in spades.

Bingo!

[Michigan Girl]

Perry cant do the old material and sure as hell could not sing the way Arnel is now.

you don't know that. Arnel's voice is beautiful on some of the new stuff, but even Perry's '94 versions of the ghs are better than Arnel's covers, imo. Whatever it is about Perry's voice that grabs me was still there in spades.

Bingo!

VERY well Stated...I CONCUR!!!

[Liquid_Drummer]

Your joking ? He sounded like he was taking a crap to hit every high note. It was like he was barley making it on all of the old material and this was 94. I would have loved to see that tour anyway. I still enjoy his voice to this day and even his later raspy voice. All I am saying is that he could not do justice in the Journey of today unless you dont mind the songs being tuned down 2 steps or more. The guy is old now and that is life. I feel the same way about the big Zep show this past year and I understand why Plant was so reluctant to do it. Good times bad times was a full step down and sounded crappy to me. Kashmir was awesome.. His and miss.

His voice is so shot now and yes I do feel pretty sure about this... Listen to any interview from 2000 to today and when he laughs you can hear it. His laugh is completely broken, distorted and he sounds like Joe pecci !

Listen to older interviews and you dont hear this. Laughter takes your voice to a higher register and you can tell his upper register is shot all to hell...

[Lilla_Forever]

Holy Mother of God This album is MINE!

What a sound, great new tunes without any really weak songs, IMO

And it's really nice to see Arnel handle the classics so well!

Perry is still number one in my book tho. I just think he has a stronger natural talent for intonation and a soulfulness that Arnel doesn't have to the same degree. Perhaps it's the Sam Cook thing?

You could argue that Perry if he was to rejoin Journey couldn't sing as forcefully as Arnel. I really think that's beside the point. Perry's voiced matured and rasped years ago and I'm sure he would sound the same now if he recorded anything. He would still rock with Journey, along the lines of Trial By Fire.

But as it is Arnel is certainly holding his own! It's the best thing for Journey to have happened! Good job!

[Red13JoePa]

Your joking ? Listen to any interview from 2000 to today and when he laughs you can hear it. His laugh is completely broken, distorted and he sounds like Joe pecci !

LOL

[Melissa]

One thing that almost everyone seems to be missing here folks is that Jeremey got his audition the exact same way Arnel did. Cain's daughter saw Jeremey on youtube and that got the ball rolling. Yes, Cain did go to see Jeremey perform, and I suspect he would have done so with Arnel if he wasn't halfway around the world. So instead they flew him in. It's the same thing. What the fuck is wrong with using modern technology anyway? Were Neal and Jon supposed to go audition people cleaning shit out of turkey coops or from Gap to Gap asking the regional maintenance managers to sing? Would that have been more "legit" for some of you?

Ok this & the tennis ball post earlier here have me laughing to tears.....

[RebornJrny]

I dont miss Perry one bit and could care less if he ever sings again to be honest. Fuck him and the soap opera that follows him. Listening to these new clips I find that I am not thinking about who is singing and taking it all in as one package. I am not over analyzing it looking for blemishes. No matter how it charts it is the best thing they have done since Frontiers hand down (I hated ROR accept for 2 songs). Perry was important to the creation of the past songs but what I think has dawned on me is that maybe he isnt as important to that sound as I thought. I think that Arnel has his own sound and all together it sounds like GOOD Journey.

...

Ding Ding Ding. We have a winner here....As a long time fan, I'm tired of waiting for him to come back and I'm sure most of his fans gave up already. Fuck with his old GH. I wish they re-recorded all their catalog and don't care what Perry will think about this. If Perry doesn't care or doesn't want to associate with Journey anymore, so do I. Tired of these soap opera shit. I'm hearing a superb voice in Pineda, saw him Vegas and he did a marvelous job. So far the clips sounded great especially the new songs. And trust me this will be Journey's last shot. Schon will retire soon, and if that day happens, that's it, game over, and they are history. As a fan, I just want to be a part of their last and final journey.

[brywool]

Perry cant do the old material and sure as hell could not sing the way Arnel is now.

you don't know that. Arnel's voice is beautiful on some of the new stuff, but even Perry's '94 versions of the ghs are better than Arnel's covers, imo. Whatever it is about Perry's voice that grabs me was still there in spades.

Bingo!

BBBBBZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTT! No Bingo.

Only if the stuff is in lower keys... Perry's got passion and soul- and no desire and no more range.
He has no desire to sing with Journey or anybody else. I agree with LD's sentiments on "soap opera". Well said.
Arnel's the future and this little bastard is going to kick yer ass. I just hope that his voice holds up. Perry's didn't. Augeri's didn't. We shall see. The fact is, the 94 shows were all lower keys and even then, Perry ducked the high notes. Still sounded good, still sounded like Perry, but if anybody else did that with the Journey songs, they'd be grilled alive. Perry cannot do these songs anymore.

[brywool]

One thing that almost everyone seems to be missing here folks is that Jeremey got his audition the exact same way Arnel did. Cain's daughter saw Jeremey on youtube and that got the ball rolling. Yes, Cain did go to see Jeremey perform, and I suspect he would have done so with Arnel if he wasn't halfway around the world. So instead they flew him in. It's the same thing. What the fuck is wrong with using modern technology anyway? Were Neal and Jon supposed to go audition people cleaning shit out of turkey coops or from Gap to Gap asking the regional maintenance managers to sing? Would that have been more "legit" for some of you?

Ok this & the tennis ball post earlier here have me laughing to tears.....

Dang, beat me to it... I was going to mention that Jeremey was found nearly the same way. It's not like they went out looking. The youtube argument is silly.