Would Perry record with Schon again if . . .

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Re: Would Perry record with Schon again if . . .

Postby brywool » Thu May 08, 2008 5:48 am

Art Vandelay wrote:
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StoneCold wrote:If money wasn't an object and a multi billionaire offered Perry to name his price, do you think it could happen? I know all the voice arguments so to save on some of that, there's no covers or tour involved.

On the other side it, now that they have Pineda, would Schon even entertain it?

Or is it really NO MOre TAils for Perry? :wink:


If it ever happened, I don't think it would be about the money, it would be about the creativity. IMO, the only way I could ever see that happening is if the 2 of them got rid of the whole Journey machine around them......and sat down as friends with no pressure and see what came out of them.


Couldn't agree with you more, Deb. And I could absolutely see that happening. Even Lennon and McCartney would occasionally pal around in the 70's without band pressure...or the public's knowledge. Does anyone remember the Saturday Night Live skit, when Lorne Michaels offered money to the Beatles to reunite on SNL? Turns out L&M were watching the show together at Lennon's place and were THISCLOSE to actually stopping by...but canned the idea last minute.

http://www.beatlelinks.net/forums/archi ... -1241.html


You should watch the movie "Two of Us" it was a 'what if' dramatization movie about John and Paul and it show that whole thing and Yoko's hold over Lennon. It's a complete work of fiction but still a good movie. Aiden Quinn did a great job as Paul McCartney. I think it was a Vh1 movie.

Speaking of beatles, check this out: John serenades Paul. Funny stuff. http://youtube.com/watch?v=ym3kgqlEwmc
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Postby Enigma869 » Thu May 08, 2008 7:09 am

Arkansas wrote:Ya know, my gut is that when he hears the new album, he'll want to come out of retirement just like he did before in '96. When he got wind of Journey reforming with Chalfant & Rolie, all of the sudden, he wanted to do Journey again.


I think the big difference this time around is that Perry has watched "Journey" toil away in complete obscurity since Perry decided to retire. Perhaps he had some insecurity when he initially heard these guys were getting back together with a new singer. It would be a natural emotion for a VERY emotional guy to feel. At this point, he realizes that Journey is beyond irrelevant, in today's music world (probably even with Perry), so I'm not sure it really matters much to Perry what the guys calling themselves Journey are doing these days!


Arkansas wrote: Don't know if it was a control thing, or a true burning desire, but he jumped right back in to the middle of it.


My hunch is that is was a combination of both that prompted Perry to pick up the phone (and then microphone) and bring everyone back together.



Arkansas wrote: I've got a feeling that he might (if he doesn't feel his age limiting him) do this again.


I just don't see Perry recording ANYTHING again, let alone recording something under the Journey name!


Arkansas wrote: He'll hear all this great new music and he'll see the cash that WalMart is throwing at them, and I guarantee you, he'll get on the phone.


From all accounts, nobody needs to hold a telethon for Steve Perry. He has never seemed hard up for cash, and doesn't strike me as the type who has ever lived an extravagant lifestyle. While we all love money, I suspect he has plenty. As for the music...I thought "Arrival" had a lot of great music on it, and that didn't seem to motivate Perry to get back together with these guys, so I don't see it happening just because Arnel is in the band . I truly believe Perry is beyond content with his body of work and with his legacy. In spite of some of the criticisms demanding the guy to record again, he strikes me as someone who knows himself VERY well. He simply decided that he couldn't or had no desire to record music any longer, and it's never really bothered me. Perry will ALWAYS be the quintessential vocalist to me, and I'll never hold it against the guy for not wanting to endlessly tour, to support Neal's 13 ex wives. For many (myself included), Perry will ALWAYS be Journey. While I still enjoy the music and will definitely purchase the new CD, it will NEVER be close to the same as it was for me 30 years ago!


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Postby Sarah » Thu May 08, 2008 7:17 am

STORY_TELLER wrote:I don't know that I agree with the assumption that Perry hates Cain. If you watch the behind the music special, you'll note Perry first reached out to Cain for the TBF reunion. My memory might be faulty on this point, but didn't Cain also insinuate that he was a big peace maker in the band? If that's correct, to me, that sounds like the majority conflict is between Neal and Perry (even though Neal seemed to come to Perry with hat in hand at the WOF ceremony asking him to come down and sing that evening).

I don't agree that Jon hates SP either. The first time I met him, all he talked about was how fantastic the WOF was when SP showed up. The second time, he implied that he wanted Deen to sing Faithfully and Open Arms because he sounded more like Perry.

I think the bad blood is primarily between SP and Neal (more on SP's side) to be honest.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu May 08, 2008 7:20 am

Enigma869 wrote: I truly believe Perry is beyond content with his body


Twice a day, at least.

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Postby Saint John » Thu May 08, 2008 7:28 am

Enigma869 wrote:I think the big difference this time around is that Perry has watched "Journey" toil away in complete obscurity since Perry decided to retire. Perhaps he had some insecurity when he initially heard these guys were getting back together with a new singer. It would be a natural emotion for a VERY emotional guy to feel. At this point, he realizes that Journey is beyond irrelevant, in today's music world (probably even with Perry), so I'm not sure it really matters much to Perry what the guys calling themselves Journey are doing these days!


To an extent I think you're right. I also think that his relationship with Journey fans has desensitized us to the point that most don't even ponder the idea that just maybe he'd do this for the fans that want closure considering his tenure with the band ended as pathetically as that of any "megaband." They toured once in his final fifteen 15 years with the band.
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Postby MrsPerry » Thu May 08, 2008 7:46 am

NealIsGod wrote:Here is a clue.

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was the first thing that came to my mind when i saw this thread. I would tho, like to see Steve (as just bout every other person here, loon or not) release a new album, even if it was old stuff, demos, outtakes, unplugged, ANYTHING. But i agree with Niggy here.
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Postby Voyager » Thu May 08, 2008 8:53 am

Neal now has the closest thing to Steve Perry that he will ever get... his name is Arnel Pineda.

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Postby Andrew » Thu May 08, 2008 10:09 am

Nobody is going to record anything without a big tour to back it up - and thatis why this will never ever happen.
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Postby marco17 » Thu May 08, 2008 10:09 am

I would think that if Perry and the band had any desire to reunite it would have happened after or during the whole Augeri/Soto debacle. It would have been the perfect opportunity.. Soto saves the band on tour since Augeri's voice was shot, and remains just the savior for the tour while Perry gets in shape. Then Soto bails out and Perry comes back as strong as he could at this point. Would have been a very logical way to handle things, but since it didn't happen it's obvious that either the calls weren't made or they were and SP wasn't interested. At that point, Augeri would have really been the only "true" replacement in that scenario because JSS would never have been announced as an official lead singer.

Not to mention if the rumors are true that Neil was starting to think about replacing Augeri in 2003 or 2005 [sorry forgetting what year it was], I am sure there were opportunities for conversation or reconciliation at some point during that time period.
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Postby scarygirl » Thu May 08, 2008 10:33 am

Andrew wrote:Nobody is going to record anything without a big tour to back it up - and thatis why this will never ever happen.




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Postby perrylover52 » Thu May 08, 2008 11:04 am

This will never happen. Steve, I'm sure, doesn't want to tour. He's been there, done that doesn't want to do it again. If anything I'd love to see Steve put on a show someplace and we all go to see him. Don't think that will ever happen either.
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Postby Lora » Thu May 08, 2008 11:06 am

Enigma869 wrote:From all accounts, nobody needs to hold a telethon for Steve Perry. He has never seemed hard up for cash, and doesn't strike me as the type who has ever lived an extravagant lifestyle. While we all love money, I suspect he has plenty. As for the music...I thought "Arrival" had a lot of great music on it, and that didn't seem to motivate Perry to get back together with these guys, so I don't see it happening just because Arnel is in the band . I truly believe Perry is beyond content with his body of work and with his legacy. In spite of some of the criticisms demanding the guy to record again, he strikes me as someone who knows himself VERY well. He simply decided that he couldn't or had no desire to record music any longer, and it's never really bothered me. Perry will ALWAYS be the quintessential vocalist to me, and I'll never hold it against the guy for not wanting to endlessly tour, to support Neal's 13 ex wives. For many (myself included), Perry will ALWAYS be Journey. While I still enjoy the music and will definitely purchase the new CD, it will NEVER be close to the same as it was for me 30 years ago!


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So very well said.
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Postby squirt1 » Thu May 08, 2008 11:09 am

I would think that if Perry did one stadium and it was put on DVD ALL would be floored and $$$$ for all. Maybe Perry would be shocked and do several more at some point. How many over 35-40 would pay hundreds to see that ?
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Postby STORY_TELLER » Thu May 08, 2008 1:02 pm

squirt1 wrote:I would think that if Perry did one stadium and it was put on DVD ALL would be floored and $$$$ for all. Maybe Perry would be shocked and do several more at some point. How many over 35-40 would pay hundreds to see that ?


I'd empty my bank account to see Perry live again. With or without Journey. You know that famous video boot from the FTLOSM tour recorded at the Beacon Theater in NYC? I was at that show, sitting stage right 7 rows deep. The sheer power of that man's voice live was absolutely something to behold. Recordings don't do it justice and this was years past his prime. He commands the stage, the audience. Oodles of star presence and that voice... God that voice. Layered, soulful, powerful, sincere, captivating, unreal.

Arnel's the best voice in Journey since Perry, but he's nothing near Perry.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu May 08, 2008 1:06 pm

The new Journey songs are on the radio (again).
"I love almost everybody."---Rocky Balboa 1990
"Let's reform this thing.Let's go out and get some guys who want to work and go do it"--Neal Schon February, 2001
"I looked at Neal, and I just saw a guy who really wants his band back"-JCain 2/01
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Postby Saint John » Thu May 08, 2008 1:06 pm

STORY_TELLER wrote:but he's nothing near Perry.


In his prime no one could touch Perry.
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Postby RocknRoll » Thu May 08, 2008 1:09 pm

Red13JoePa wrote:The new Journey songs are on the radio (again).


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Postby ProgRocker53 » Thu May 08, 2008 1:14 pm

squirt1 wrote:I would think that if Perry did one stadium and it was put on DVD ALL would be floored and $$$$ for all. Maybe Perry would be shocked and do several more at some point. How many over 35-40 would pay hundreds to see that ?


This 20 year old would sell his future to see Perry perform live, even from Row ZZ, Seat 42, Section Q, behind that giant beam coated in Asbestos...
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Postby Saint John » Thu May 08, 2008 1:19 pm

ProgRocker53 wrote:This 20 year old would sell his future to see Perry perform live, even from Row ZZ, Seat 42, Section Q, behind that giant beam coated in Asbestos...


And you'd still have a better view than if you were in the second row behind one of Augeri's oval shaped female fans. Believe me, I know. It's like trying to see around a fucking Greyhound bus.
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Postby squirt1 » Thu May 08, 2008 1:23 pm

Prog- I always said this 61 yr old would pay $ 300.00 to sit in the last row of a stadium. I missed so much with 4 kids amd 4 businesses. I feel priviledged to have seen what I did LIVE !
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Postby Allied Forces » Thu May 08, 2008 1:47 pm

Triumph reunited so anything is possible. Never say never..............
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Postby Voyager » Thu May 08, 2008 4:13 pm

Allied Forces wrote:Triumph reunited so anything is possible. Never say never..............


Even though Perry may still have the magic power of the music in him, let's lay it on the line: Neal fought the good fight, but in the end Perry got lost in his world of fantasy. In other words, they are no longer allied forces. The moral of the story is to follow your heart, and to never surrender. When you live for the weekend, you've got to hold on to your dreams.

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Postby Since 78 » Thu May 08, 2008 4:16 pm

Allied Forces wrote:Triumph reunited so anything is possible. Never say never..............


I usually don't, but in this case I have to. Its NEVER gonna happen.
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Postby sniper16 » Thu May 08, 2008 10:57 pm

first of all never says never
the eagles, triumph, styx all had angry splits, and all reformed.
but the difference is all of those people still were involved in music,
steve hasnt done anything in over 10 years.
im more of a schon/rolie fan than a perry loon,
but dont beleieve for a minute that neal wouldnt love to write music with perry again( i dont think he's losing sleep over
not having him aroud either)
ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
everyone has thier favs, but
a perry schon rolie captured reunion, one show at the rose bowl for 300.00 a pop would sell very well
id go
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Postby NealIsGod » Thu May 08, 2008 11:17 pm

It's comparable to wishing that Joe Montana would come back to play for the 49ers. He can handle a game of touch football in the backyard, but not playing in the NFL again.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu May 08, 2008 11:19 pm

Since 78 wrote:
Allied Forces wrote:Triumph reunited so anything is possible. Never say never..............


I usually don't, but in this case I have to. Its NEVER gonna happen.


Omg, look ^ Steve Perry posts here. ROFL! :lol: j/k

I agree. I'm usually a never say never gal, but in this case... never.
I don't know that I'd even really want to see it happen - I think all parties are beyond it at this point.
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Postby DracIsBack » Thu May 08, 2008 11:39 pm

Since 78 wrote:
Allied Forces wrote:Triumph reunited so anything is possible. Never say never..............


I usually don't, but in this case I have to. Its NEVER gonna happen.



I agree that it's highly, highly, highly unlikely but this industry is too weird to make such a final declaration.

The Police used to get into fist fights back stage and are now touring.

The Eagles didn't speak for years and sued each other and are now touring.

Triumph has spent the last two decades bickering in the press and suing each other ... and are now touring.

Van Halen had big dust-ups with David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar and ... did tours with them both seperately.

The industry is just too strange. You never know what will happen.
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Postby Jenna » Thu May 08, 2008 11:50 pm

What is that saying in show biz---Always leave the stage with the audience wanting more----Mission accomplished----He was the Best of the Best----and will and is--remembered as such-------
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Postby Deb » Fri May 09, 2008 12:05 am

Voyager wrote:
Allied Forces wrote:Triumph reunited so anything is possible. Never say never..............


Even though Perry may still have the magic power of the music in him, let's lay it on the line: Neal fought the good fight, but in the end Perry got lost in his world of fantasy. In other words, they are no longer allied forces. The moral of the story is to follow your heart, and to never surrender. When you live for the weekend, you've got to hold on to your dreams.

:lol:


:lol: Bravo!

Aw come on, Just One Night?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVtsKuj22vQ
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Postby Voyager » Fri May 09, 2008 12:06 am

DracIsBack wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
Allied Forces wrote:Triumph reunited so anything is possible. Never say never..............


I usually don't, but in this case I have to. Its NEVER gonna happen.



I agree that it's highly, highly, highly unlikely but this industry is too weird to make such a final declaration.

The Police used to get into fist fights back stage and are now touring.

The Eagles didn't speak for years and sued each other and are now touring.

Triumph has spent the last two decades bickering in the press and suing each other ... and are now touring.

Van Halen had big dust-ups with David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar and ... did tours with them both seperately.

The industry is just too strange. You never know what will happen.


Yeah, who knows... Obama and Clinton may even end up on the same ticket.

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