All Revelation Sound Clips (so far)...

[Red13JoePa]

Figure the "Jap eye" thing out.

Furthermore, I move to chage Portuguese Sausage to Portuguese Snausage or even Portuguese pencap.

[Deb]

Figure the "Jap eye" thing out.

Furthermore, I move to chage Portuguese Sausage to Portuguese Snausage or even Portuguese pencap.

You've lost me, no idea what you're talking about on the japeyes thing?

And, gotta luv ya JoePa, but you mention Perry's snausage more than any loon I know.

[Sarah]

There's no rule that says the front guy has to write.

Buuuut they do need someone to fill the hole in the songwriting that Perry left. Jon can't write everything alone...

Pffft. You could fill that hole with a 2 inch dick.

Really? You really can't recognize how many great songs Perry/Cain wrote for Journey?

[Saint John]

There's no rule that says the front guy has to write.

Buuuut they do need someone to fill the hole in the songwriting that Perry left. Jon can't write everything alone...

Pffft. You could fill that hole with a 2 inch dick.

Really? You really can't recognize how many great songs Perry/Cain wrote for Journey?

I'm quite sure that Cain was the backbone behind the writing "team." Especially considering the songs Perry wrote alone are terrible and the ones Cain wrote alone are great. Not to mention that FTLOSM had 4,342 outside writers on it if I remember correctly...and it still sucked lyrically (musically too). Vocally it was great, but all things considered it still sucked.

[annie89509]

I have said this before. TBF would have been a great Journey kick-ass album (my opinion of course) if only they had cut down the tracks to 11, eliminating the slow songs (which does sound like it might fit in a Perry solo album). Personally, I love all of TBF because it has SP singing on it (never can get enough of the man). But, it would eliminate the snoozefest comments.

Now, I also think Arrival suffered from too many tracks. After the 1st 5 or 6 (which I enjoyed), all the songs started to sound the same (to me). and I'm ready to turn it off. I actually like listening to Generations a lot more than Arrival. FITH is the best SA-sung rocker and Beyond the Clouds best ballad, imo.

I don't know, what it comes down to is what the artists/bands ultimately decided to do. Do you reward the faithful with lots of songs on your record, or do you risk losing the casual by putting them to sleep with too many songs on it?

OMG..you can't be serious..None of the songs on Arrival sound the same.. And you like Generations better,I'm beside myself! Why don't you give Arrival another listen.. Neal even stated they did too many songs. Arrival sounds more like classic Journey than most of the stuff Journey did after Separate ways.. All of the things,World gone wild,I got a reason,we will meet again,live and breathe,Too be alive again..All stellar songs..You are deaf if you can't hear the classic Journey sound in these..Augeri did an admiral job!

Just came across this reply directed at me. Journey69, did I say Arrival didn't sound like a Journey album? I believe I said it was TOO LONG. SA was(is) a competent singer, and he did those songs well, but after the 1st 5 or 6 tracks, it became tedious to keep listening. I always keep the record on, but can't tell you what songs go with what title. Admittedly, I am a loon. Had the singer been SP, there would have been no problem with my attention span. I can recite back to you every song title and verse in TBF.

I like Generations better because it only had 11 songs (not counting Never Too Late, which I downloaded later), short enough to keep my attention. I could do without the musical-chairs lead singing, but I really like all of the SA-sung songs, even Butterfly and Believe. And I do know all the songs on Generations.

I don't get these "classic Journey sound" statements. To me, every album they ever made was Journey sounding. You can pick Neal's guitar-playing is on every record. Even on ROR, which a lot of people seem to despise, it is a Journey-sounding album.

[Matthew]

I'm even looking forward to hearing the dirty 11 for the first time in a long time, I expect them to sound better than the originals.

I've heard it all now....

Surely your most bizarre comment to date NMT?

If you're going to quote me, how about not editing what I said in order to make your typically pompous reply fit..
Here's what I wrote:
"I'm even looking forward to hearing the dirty 11 for the first time in a long time, I expect them to sound better than the originals musically and Arnel sounds impressive."

How does the use of the word "musically" make the slightest bit of difference? Of course we're talking about the music. What did you think I was referring to?

[Matthew]

There's no rule that says the front guy has to write.

Buuuut they do need someone to fill the hole in the songwriting that Perry left. Jon can't write everything alone...

Pffft. You could fill that hole with a 2 inch dick.

Really? You really can't recognize how many great songs Perry/Cain wrote for Journey?

I'm quite sure that Cain was the backbone behind the writing "team." Especially considering the songs Perry wrote alone are terrible and the ones Cain wrote alone are great. Not to mention that FTLOSM had 4,342 outside writers on it if I remember correctly...and it still sucked lyrically (musically too). Vocally it was great, but all things considered it still sucked.

Which songs did Perry write alone?

[Saint John]

I'm even looking forward to hearing the dirty 11 for the first time in a long time, I expect them to sound better than the originals.

I've heard it all now....

Surely your most bizarre comment to date NMT?

If you're going to quote me, how about not editing what I said in order to make your typically pompous reply fit..
Here's what I wrote:
"I'm even looking forward to hearing the dirty 11 for the first time in a long time, I expect them to sound better than the originals musically and Arnel sounds impressive."

How does the use of the word "musically" make the slightest bit of difference? Of course we're talking about the music. What did you think I was referring to?

He's talking about the actual instruments, dick face. Perhaps a slight variation in a "fill" or a different guitar riff for example. Or maybe just the fact that today's instruments may sound better. At any rate, what he said had nothing to do with Arnel's vocals, though you tried to make it look that way.

PS I went back and looked at his original post and the one you quoted. I see you even added a "period" at the end of his statement when the original statement actually continued. You're busted, you faggy Euro.

[Saint John]

There's no rule that says the front guy has to write.

Buuuut they do need someone to fill the hole in the songwriting that Perry left. Jon can't write everything alone...

Pffft. You could fill that hole with a 2 inch dick.

Really? You really can't recognize how many great songs Perry/Cain wrote for Journey?

I'm quite sure that Cain was the backbone behind the writing "team." Especially considering the songs Perry wrote alone are terrible and the ones Cain wrote alone are great. Not to mention that FTLOSM had 4,342 outside writers on it if I remember correctly...and it still sucked lyrically (musically too). Vocally it was great, but all things considered it still sucked.

Which songs did Perry write alone?

Patiently is one I believe and it's horrible. "Hear I stand so patiently?" Are you fucking serious?!?! Skip.

[Matthew]

I'm even looking forward to hearing the dirty 11 for the first time in a long time, I expect them to sound better than the originals.

I've heard it all now....

Surely your most bizarre comment to date NMT?

If you're going to quote me, how about not editing what I said in order to make your typically pompous reply fit..
Here's what I wrote:
"I'm even looking forward to hearing the dirty 11 for the first time in a long time, I expect them to sound better than the originals musically and Arnel sounds impressive."

How does the use of the word "musically" make the slightest bit of difference? Of course we're talking about the music. What did you think I was referring to?

He's talking about the actual instruments, dick face. Perhaps a slight variation in a "fill" or a different guitar riff for example. Or maybe just the fact that today's instruments may sound better. At any rate, what he said had nothing to do with Arnel's vocals, though you tried to make it look that way.

Oh...I see. He meant "instrumentally".

Still a bizarre comment in that case but not completely insane. Judging from the clips thoigh I don't hear anything - yet - by Schon that can compare to his work on the old Journey albums...and the drums are pretty clunky too in comparison with Smith's work.

[Matthew]

There's no rule that says the front guy has to write.

Buuuut they do need someone to fill the hole in the songwriting that Perry left. Jon can't write everything alone...

Pffft. You could fill that hole with a 2 inch dick.

Really? You really can't recognize how many great songs Perry/Cain wrote for Journey?

I'm quite sure that Cain was the backbone behind the writing "team." Especially considering the songs Perry wrote alone are terrible and the ones Cain wrote alone are great. Not to mention that FTLOSM had 4,342 outside writers on it if I remember correctly...and it still sucked lyrically (musically too). Vocally it was great, but all things considered it still sucked.

Which songs did Perry write alone?

Patiently is one I believe and it's horrible. "Hear I stand so patiently?" Are you fucking serious?!?! Skip.

I thought he co-wrote that with Schon.

[Andrew]

He's talking about the actual instruments, dick face. Perhaps a slight variation in a "fill" or a different guitar riff for example. Or maybe just the fact that today's instruments may sound better. At any rate, what he said had nothing to do with Arnel's vocals, though you tried to make it look that way.

PS I went back and looked at his original post and the one you quoted. I see you even added a "period" at the end of his statement when the original statement actually continued. You're busted, you faggy Euro.

Consider this your ONE warning SJ. I won't tollerate this shit anymore.

[Matthew]

You're busted, you faggy Euro.

Your imitation of Deano is becoming more pathetic by the day Saint John. Maybe my memory deceives me..but didn't you have a personality of your own at some stage?

[Saint John]

You're busted, you faggy Euro.

Your imitation of Deano is becoming more pathetic by the day Saint John. Maybe my memory deceives me..but didn't you have a personality of your own at some stage?

Not an act...I dislike most Euros, namely you.

[Matthew]

You're busted, you faggy Euro.

Your imitation of Deano is becoming more pathetic by the day Saint John. Maybe my memory deceives me..but didn't you have a personality of your own at some stage?

Not an act...I dislike most Euros, namely you.

First the thrilling 'smoking gun' of my use of a full-stop at the end of a quote. Now you're coming out with a line that Deano flogged to death about two years ago...

You're really on fire tonight aren't you?

[Saint John]

First the thrilling 'smoking gun' of my use of a full-stop at the end of a quote.

You put a fucking period at the end of someone's quote to make it appear as if that was the whole comment when in fact it wasn't. It was a blatant attempt to start a Perry-Arnel war. I've never seen anyone else do that. And what the fuck is a "full-stop?"

[Matthew]

First the thrilling 'smoking gun' of my use of a full-stop at the end of a quote.

You put a fucking period at the end of someone's quote to make it appear as if that was the whole comment when in fact it wasn't. It was a blatant attempt to start a Perry-Arnel war. I've never seen anyone else do that. And what the fuck is a "full-stop?"

I've already said I misunderstood NMT's use of the word "musically". I thought - not unreasonably - that "musically" also included the singing. Had I understood his meaning and then cut it out you might have a point....

A Perry-Arnel war? I don't know about that. I actually like Arnel and am going to see Journey next month. I was just responding to someone who - on the basis of some low quality 30 second clips from Walmart - was claiming that the band's performance was superior to those of the classic era. It just seemed like an outlandish comment.

And in any case Saint John...aren't you the one who launches daily attacks on Perry and sucks up to Arnel and the rest of the band like a star-struck teenage groupie? Looks like if anyone wants a war around here it's you.

[stevew2]

First the thrilling 'smoking gun' of my use of a full-stop at the end of a quote.

You put a fucking period at the end of someone's quote to make it appear as if that was the whole comment when in fact it wasn't. It was a blatant attempt to start a Perry-Arnel war. I've never seen anyone else do that. And what the fuck is a "full-stop?"

I've already said I misunderstood NMT's use of the word "musically". I thought - not unreasonably - that "musically" also included the singing. Had I understood his meaning and then cut it out you might have a point....

A Perry-Arnel war? I don't know about that. I actually like Arnel and am going to see Journey next month. I was just responding to someone who - on the basis of some low quality 30 second clips from Walmart - was claiming that the band's performance was superior to those of the classic era. It just seemed like an outlandish comment.

And in any case Saint John...aren't you the one who launches daily attacks on Perry and sucks up to Arnel and the rest of the band like a star-struck teenage groupie? Looks like if anyone wants a war around here it's you.

Nothing that Journey will do this year will be be superior to anything that Journey did with Steve P.Whoever told you that was on crack.

[Rick]

First the thrilling 'smoking gun' of my use of a full-stop at the end of a quote.

You put a fucking period at the end of someone's quote to make it appear as if that was the whole comment when in fact it wasn't. It was a blatant attempt to start a Perry-Arnel war. I've never seen anyone else do that. And what the fuck is a "full-stop?"

I've already said I misunderstood NMT's use of the word "musically". I thought - not unreasonably - that "musically" also included the singing. Had I understood his meaning and then cut it out you might have a point....

A Perry-Arnel war? I don't know about that. I actually like Arnel and am going to see Journey next month. I was just responding to someone who - on the basis of some low quality 30 second clips from Walmart - was claiming that the band's performance was superior to those of the classic era. It just seemed like an outlandish comment.

And in any case Saint John...aren't you the one who launches daily attacks on Perry and sucks up to Arnel and the rest of the band like a star-struck teenage groupie? Looks like if anyone wants a war around here it's you.

Nothing that Journey will do this year will be be superior to anything that Journey did with Steve P.Whoever told you that was on crack.

We certainly agree there.

To back track, the newly recorded GH will almost have to sound better than the originals musically. They've played them a thousand times since then. Couple that with the enhancements in recording technology today and there you are.

[stevew2]

First the thrilling 'smoking gun' of my use of a full-stop at the end of a quote.

You put a fucking period at the end of someone's quote to make it appear as if that was the whole comment when in fact it wasn't. It was a blatant attempt to start a Perry-Arnel war. I've never seen anyone else do that. And what the fuck is a "full-stop?"

I've already said I misunderstood NMT's use of the word "musically". I thought - not unreasonably - that "musically" also included the singing. Had I understood his meaning and then cut it out you might have a point....

A Perry-Arnel war? I don't know about that. I actually like Arnel and am going to see Journey next month. I was just responding to someone who - on the basis of some low quality 30 second clips from Walmart - was claiming that the band's performance was superior to those of the classic era. It just seemed like an outlandish comment.

And in any case Saint John...aren't you the one who launches daily attacks on Perry and sucks up to Arnel and the rest of the band like a star-struck teenage groupie? Looks like if anyone wants a war around here it's you.

Nothing that Journey will do this year will be be superior to anything that Journey did with Steve P.Whoever told you that was on crack.

We certainly agree there.

To back track, the newly recorded GH will almost have to sound better than the originals musically. They've played them a thousand times since then. Couple that with the enhancements in recording technology today and there you are.

The GH Ive heard have SP harmonies and all of Journeys rerecords just with different vocals.That really sucks.I liked some of the new stuff,they should not of tainted it with karoke bullshit.

[Rick]

First the thrilling 'smoking gun' of my use of a full-stop at the end of a quote.

You put a fucking period at the end of someone's quote to make it appear as if that was the whole comment when in fact it wasn't. It was a blatant attempt to start a Perry-Arnel war. I've never seen anyone else do that. And what the fuck is a "full-stop?"

I've already said I misunderstood NMT's use of the word "musically". I thought - not unreasonably - that "musically" also included the singing. Had I understood his meaning and then cut it out you might have a point....

A Perry-Arnel war? I don't know about that. I actually like Arnel and am going to see Journey next month. I was just responding to someone who - on the basis of some low quality 30 second clips from Walmart - was claiming that the band's performance was superior to those of the classic era. It just seemed like an outlandish comment.

And in any case Saint John...aren't you the one who launches daily attacks on Perry and sucks up to Arnel and the rest of the band like a star-struck teenage groupie? Looks like if anyone wants a war around here it's you.

Nothing that Journey will do this year will be be superior to anything that Journey did with Steve P.Whoever told you that was on crack.

We certainly agree there.

To back track, the newly recorded GH will almost have to sound better than the originals musically. They've played them a thousand times since then. Couple that with the enhancements in recording technology today and there you are.

The GH Ive heard have SP harmonies and all of Journeys rerecords just with different vocals.That really sucks.I liked some of the new stuff,they should not of tainted it with karoke bullshit.

The new GH you've heard do not have SP anywhere in them. They've been rerecorded from bottom to top. Karaoke is recorded in a bar, not a studio.

[stevew2]

check out "Whos Cryin Now'" You dont hear Perry?

[Rick]

check out "Whos Cryin Now'" You dont hear Perry?

http://music.walmart.com/g2demand/006/9 ... 02.006.asf

No, I sure don't. Maybe a little Jamison.

The fact that you do is probably a huge compliment to Arnel though. I'm sure he appreciates it too.

[stevew2]

check out "Whos Cryin Now'" You dont hear Perry?

http://music.walmart.com/g2demand/006/9 ... 02.006.asf

No, I sure don't. Maybe a little Jamison.

The fact that you do is probably a huge compliment to Arnel though. I'm sure he appreciates it too.

Im talking background vocals only,sounds like the same ole shit Rick,canned vocals just like you ll here this summer. Arnel will be live for awhile

[Rick]

check out "Whos Cryin Now'" You dont hear Perry?

http://music.walmart.com/g2demand/006/9 ... 02.006.asf

No, I sure don't. Maybe a little Jamison.

The fact that you do is probably a huge compliment to Arnel though. I'm sure he appreciates it too.

Im talking background vocals only,sounds like the same ole shit Rick,canned vocals just like you ll here this summer. Arnel will be live for awhile

SP isn't in the backing vox either. Believe me, I wish he was.

I wish Journey would do an album with SP and then let Arnel do the concert tour on it. Anything to get SP back with Journey. That's a pipe dream though, for sure.

[NoMoreTails]

I was just responding to someone who - on the basis of some low quality 30 second clips from Walmart - was claiming that the band's performance was superior to those of the classic era. It just seemed like an outlandish comment.

I didn't say their performance was better, I said I expect them to be better. I agree that the drum sounds may be an issue as it has for the last few albums, but I think the classics are going to have a more rocking edge to them as they do live, Neal has only gotten better. I'm sorry I didn't use the word instrumentation instead of the word musically but you seem to be the only one here who "misunderstood" my meaning.

[NoMoreTails]

One more thing, Arnel is better than Perry.

...happy Matthew?

[Saint John]

And in any case Saint John...aren't you the one who launches daily attacks on Perry and sucks up to Arnel and the rest of the band like a star-struck teenage groupie? Looks like if anyone wants a war around here it's you.

If you could somehow get the layers of man goo off of your eyes you would be capable of reading the reviews I have given Arnel thus far. But, for the goo-eye impaired I'll recap: First concert in Chile-D+ or C-....First show I actually saw him at in Vegas at the private event...C or C+...the Planet Hollywood gig where the DVD was shot I gave him a C+ or a B-. I'm not sure how I "suck up to the band" but if it's anywhere near the level of keyboard dry humping that you afford Friga, then yes, I need to reassess my posting patterns.

[Deb]

And in any case Saint John...aren't you the one who launches daily attacks on Perry and sucks up to Arnel and the rest of the band like a star-struck teenage groupie? Looks like if anyone wants a war around here it's you.

If you could somehow get the layers of man goo off of your eyes you would be capable of reading the reviews I have given Arnel thus far. But, for the goo-eye impaired I'll recap: First concert in Chile-D+ or C-....First show I actually saw him at in Vegas at the private event...C or C+...the Planet Hollywood gig where the DVD was shot I gave him a C+ or a B-. I'm not sure how I "suck up to the band" but if it's anywhere near the level of keyboard dry humping that you afford Friga, then yes, I need to reassess my posting patterns.

Now there's a visual.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Patiently is one I believe and it's horrible. "Hear I stand so patiently?" Are you fucking serious?!?! Skip.

SJ, I never like to call anyone's fan credentials into question, but how can any Journey fan not like Patiently?
Just from a historical standpoint, you must pay the song props.

That is, for me at least, prolly the quintessential Perry/Schon pairing.