NEW JSS INTERVIEW 5/19

[Behshad]

Saint John,,, this isnt about legal actions.... this is about friendship and brotherhood man,,,,, You probably know that Neal and Jeff were close after Soul Sirkus,,,, and you'd think Neal would at least TALK to his friend and thank him on a personal level, thats all,,,,,
What they didnt wasnt wrong in the music industry or the minority eye of public,,, but in a circle of friends who had a fun year together,it IS shallow,,,,,
Nevertheless,,, its good to know that everyone has moved on ,,,,

[Saint John]

Unless I find out that they didn't pay him for every show he did I see no problem with the way he was terminated.

You can't be serious?!

I'm very serious. The man was paid for his services and then released. End of story.

[Allied Forces]

Thanks for this. Was this published anywhere else?

[Saint John]

But 99.99999% of the public doesn't know that or probably care for that matter.

You're missing the point dickhead.

No, Rick, you're missing the point. Journey is a corporation. Corporations are only interested in looking good for the general public, and they did that for 99.99999% of the people, as Tito stated. The way the fans see it, Journey hired a fill-in, paid him well, he finished a tour, thanked him, and went in a different direction. That's the way I see it, too.

[Saint John]

Saint John,,, this isnt about legal actions.... this is about friendship and brotherhood man,,,,, You probably know that Neal and Jeff were close after Soul Sirkus,,,, and you'd think Neal would at least TALK to his friend and thank him on a personal level, thats all,,,,,
What they didnt wasnt wrong in the music industry or the minority eye of public,,, but in a circle of friends who had a fun year together,it IS shallow,,,,,
Nevertheless,,, its good to know that everyone has moved on ,,,,

Loose lips sink ships.

[Deb]

Unless I find out that they didn't pay him for every show he did I see no problem with the way he was terminated.

You can't be serious?!

I'm very serious. The man was paid for his services and then released. End of story.

I agree he was paid for his services, but you don't see anything at all wrong in the way he was released? Thank gawd I don't work under YOU.

[Rick]

But 99.99999% of the public doesn't know that or probably care for that matter.

You're missing the point dickhead.

No, Rick, you're missing the point. Journey is a corporation. Corporations are only interested in looking good for the general public, and they did that for 99.99999% of the people, as Tito stated. The way the fans see it, Journey hired a fill-in, paid him well, he finished a tour, thanked him, and went in a different direction. That's the way I see it, too.

And you're wrong as well. To dismiss the treatment is wrong, number one. To say it's ok because it's Corporate America is the second error. To alleviate the responsibility of treating people with respect simply because it's "Corporate America" is in itself irresponsible and also actually condones their behavior. How would you like to go to work one day only to find that your entry card into the building doesn't work? Never hear a word from your employer, just can't get in. I bet that would be a nice feeling. The phrase "It's not personal, it's business." should be stricken from the English language. Everything is personal because you're not dealing with machines.

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

But 99.99999% of the public doesn't know that or probably care for that matter.

You're missing the point dickhead.

No, Rick, you're missing the point. Journey is a corporation. Corporations are only interested in looking good for the general public, and they did that for 99.99999% of the people, as Tito stated. The way the fans see it, Journey hired a fill-in, paid him well, he finished a tour, thanked him, and went in a different direction. That's the way I see it, too.

And you're wrong as well. To dismiss the treatment is wrong, number one. To say it's ok because it's Corporate America is the second error. To alleviate the responsibility of treating people with respect simply because it's "Corporate America" is in itself irresponsible and also actually condones their behavior. How would you like to go to work one day only to find that your entry card into the building doesn't work? Never hear a word from your employer, just can't get in. I bet that would be a nice feeling. The phrase "It's not personal, it's business." should be stricken from the English language. Everything is personal because you're not dealing with machines.

I agree, yes business is business, but simply saying to him directly, "thanks for helping, we think youre great, dont take it as a slur on your abilities as a singer/front man, but we need someone who sounds like our legacy sound/differerent. If you want to discuss further fine, but we need to keep it in a legal framework where we both dont get burned." Alls it takes is a little bit of guts and a little bit of empathy to do that. not much - only a little..

[larryfromnextdoor]

Here's an interview I did with Jeff recently. It's in the JSS section, but I thought I'd share it with all of you here

http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... hp?t=34834

thanks man.. that was a nice read.. JSS has some fantastic tunes from the past.. its kinda disappointing
that he has no release date for the new tunes though.. i sure like his truthfulness..

[Tito]

only Ross talking to
him within the last year, just leaves a bad taste in some of our mouths..

Bad taste? It's none of our business. Why a bad taste.

But the fact that he heard about his dissmissal second, third and fourth hand

Not their fault that someone leaked it. If it wasn't leaked/mentioned, would it have been any better? Someone beat them to the punch, so they didn't get a chance to officially let him go first.

You gotta give Jeff credit for being so mum and professional abou it.

Give me a break. He had enough mouthpieces here to do his talking. Intentional or not.

[Tito]

But 99.99999% of the public doesn't know that or probably care for that matter.

You're missing the point dickhead.

What's the point?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Not their fault that someone leaked it. If it wasn't leaked/mentioned, would it have been any better? Someone beat them to the punch, so they didn't get a chance to officially let him go first.

Jeff was being lied to even after his dismissal was set in stone.
Wasn't he being given false assurances by Mngt. that nothing was brewing right up to him doing the Talisman farewell tour?
Anyway you look at it, Jeff got fucked.
Neal talks tough, but at every turn, takes the easy route with band relations.

[Tito]

But 99.99999% of the public doesn't know that or probably care for that matter.

You're missing the point dickhead.

No, Rick, you're missing the point. Journey is a corporation. Corporations are only interested in looking good for the general public, and they did that for 99.99999% of the people, as Tito stated. The way the fans see it, Journey hired a fill-in, paid him well, he finished a tour, thanked him, and went in a different direction. That's the way I see it, too.

And you're wrong as well. To dismiss the treatment is wrong, number one. To say it's ok because it's Corporate America is the second error. To alleviate the responsibility of treating people with respect simply because it's "Corporate America" is in itself irresponsible and also actually condones their behavior. How would you like to go to work one day only to find that your entry card into the building doesn't work? Never hear a word from your employer, just can't get in. I bet that would be a nice feeling. The phrase "It's not personal, it's business." should be stricken from the English language. Everything is personal because you're not dealing with machines.

That happens everyday, unfortunately. And I doubt the hardworking guy, living paycheck to paycheck, is going to worry a rock n' roll singer having the same fate as he. Except the RnR singer was paid extremely well.

This whole Soto firing thing is inside baseball, that very few (people on this board and more specifically Soto fans on the board) care about.

[Carlitto H@kk]

only Ross talking to
him within the last year, just leaves a bad taste in some of our mouths..

Bad taste? It's none of our business. Why a bad taste.

It's our business because that's why we come here...
We're fans and fanatics and things like this tend to piss us off

But the fact that he heard about his dissmissal second, third and fourth hand

Not their fault that someone leaked it. If it wasn't leaked/mentioned, would it have been any better? Someone beat them to the punch, so they didn't get a chance to officially let him go first.

Sure, that would be cool if, after the fact, someone would've called, like Neal or Jon,
and apologized for Jeff having to get word like he did, explain some things and
part on fairly amicable ways. Instead, Jon and Neal have cut Jeff off completely.

You gotta give Jeff credit for being so mum and professional abou it.

Give me a break. He had enough mouthpieces here to do his talking. Intentional or not.

Here, yes. But like you say, we don't really count. We're just crazed fans and fanatics.

I'm sure Jeff has had PLENTY of opportunities to bad mouth these guys; every interview he's
done since last year always gets to his thoughts on Journey and his dissmissal and
he ALWAYS holds back any anger and is grascious.

We can go round & round til our fingers are blue on this.
You don't like Jeff, cool. To each his own.
But he does have a lot of fans here that
could care less what the Big Public thinks.

[Saint John]

Great civil debate on all sides. Good stuff. Good points, Carl.

[Tito]

Saint John,,, this isnt about legal actions.... this is about friendship and brotherhood man,,,,, You probably know that Neal and Jeff were close after Soul Sirkus,,,, and you'd think Neal would at least TALK to his friend and thank him on a personal level, thats all,,,,,
What they didnt wasnt wrong in the music industry or the minority eye of public,,, but in a circle of friends who had a fun year together,it IS shallow,,,,,
Nevertheless,,, its good to know that everyone has moved on ,,,,

Loose lips sink ships.

Bingo. This also happens in the real world all the time. I'm sure Journey's well paid lawyers told them not to speak to him. If Neal & company were to talk to him and say something, it may have been used in a possible lawsuit. When you are let go from a company, the employers say as little as possible and tell you to sign the form. Rarely, do they talk to you afterwards, unless you call H.R. with a question (cobra,etc.). Alot of the time, they tell the other employees not talk to the former employee as well. You people are really blowing this out of proportion. This is really standard stuff here.

[Tito]

I'm sure Jeff has had PLENTY of opportunities to bad mouth these guys; every interview he's
done since last year always gets to his thoughts on Journey and his dissmissal and
he ALWAYS holds back any anger and is grascious.

And that would've been extremely foolish to do. All that would've created was a backlash against him. Most fans are neutral to him. BTW, he wasn't so gracious in that radio interview on youtube last week when the DJ said they are a karoke band. And JSS said, "you said that not me." Which basically means he was agreeing with him.

[Moon Beam]

You people are really blowing this out of proportion.

If I recall correctly Tito it was your cold callous choice of words in this thread that
got everyone fueled.

[Behshad]

I'm sure Jeff has had PLENTY of opportunities to bad mouth these guys; every interview he's
done since last year always gets to his thoughts on Journey and his dissmissal and
he ALWAYS holds back any anger and is grascious.

And that would've been extremely foolish to do. All that would've created was a backlash against him. Most fans are neutral to him. BTW, he wasn't so gracious in that radio interview on youtube last week when the DJ said they are a karoke band. And JSS said, "you said that not me." Which basically means he was agreeing with him.

Oh so you have a bone with him cause he may have agreed with a DJ over some smal talk and radio joke??? That explains everything,,,,,

Now , I posted this interview, for people who care about Jeff and his future,,,,, youre clearly not one of them,,,,, So why even bother?

[Michigan Girl]

You people are really blowing this out of proportion.

If I recall correctly Tito it was your cold callous choice of words in this thread that
got everyone fueled.

I've noticed a pattern w/this fella!!!

[texafana]

"...the US but in fact the numbers on my solo tour reflected not many from that '06 tour really care about 'the guy who replaced the guy who replaced THE guy'..."

Very true, like the FT.Worth show which had at most 75 peeps. Very humbling for Jeff. I've heard other shows had similar numbers. They should have pimped the hell out of that tour.

"...Let the world decide once the world hears, but first the world must hear! I refuse to throw it out there just so the 10-11,000 who will buy my albums just because my name is on it can get their hands on it. As things progress closer to my upcoming deadline, more information will be planned & revealed. "

Not quite sure what to think of that (bold) line. What do you JSS die hards think of that?

I do agree that if JSS is going to "make it" the time is now, it's time for better management, better decision making on his solo career, etc. Time to market "Jeff Scott Soto" and not the JSS flavor of the month bands he shows up in.

[Tito]

You people are really blowing this out of proportion.

If I recall correctly Tito it was your cold callous choice of words in this thread that
got everyone fueled.

Perhaps my words (which I have since amended) may have started this particular thread. However, this is hardly a new topic.

[StevePerryHair]

You people are really blowing this out of proportion.

If I recall correctly Tito it was your cold callous choice of words in this thread that
got everyone fueled.

Perhaps my words (which I have since amended) may have started this particular thread. However, this is hardly a new topic.

Not a new topic, but NOT the topic of this thread.

And you changed it to "Soto sounds full of himself". When a musician is being interviewed and ASKED to talk about himself, how else is he supposed to sound?

[Carlitto H@kk]

"...Let the world decide once the world hears, but first the world must hear! I refuse to throw it out there just so the 10-11,000 who will buy my albums just because my name is on it can get their hands on it. As things progress closer to my upcoming deadline, more information will be planned & revealed. "

Not quite sure what to think of that (bold) line. What do you JSS die hards think of that?

To me, it sounds like Jeff and possibly his management are going to try
and get some promotional push, some radio play, build some hype...
I am probably wrong but, from the few demos (?) I've heard on
his MySpace change, this album is a differnt direction for Jeff.
It does have a more "mainstream today" feel.

[Onestepper]

"...the US but in fact the numbers on my solo tour reflected not many from that '06 tour really care about 'the guy who replaced the guy who replaced THE guy'..."

Very true, like the FT.Worth show which had at most 75 peeps. Very humbling for Jeff. I've heard other shows had similar numbers. They should have pimped the hell out of that tour.

"...Let the world decide once the world hears, but first the world must hear! I refuse to throw it out there just so the 10-11,000 who will buy my albums just because my name is on it can get their hands on it. As things progress closer to my upcoming deadline, more information will be planned & revealed. "

Not quite sure what to think of that (bold) line. What do you JSS die hards think of that?

I do agree that if JSS is going to "make it" the time is now, it's time for better management, better decision making on his solo career, etc. Time to market "Jeff Scott Soto" and not the JSS flavor of the month bands he shows up in.

This is a really good point. If you read the interview, sounds like he has more projects going on with whatever band of the week then there are days in a month. Not a criticism, as I understand the man needs to work and loves what he is doing. But for the 'casual' fan of his, it's tough to determine if his solo career really is a priority, or just something to fill time in between tours with other bands. The fact that he is not selling based on his short Journey tenure, may in fact, be a blessing. Hope it works out for the best.

[ProgRocker53]

Tito needs bitch slapped...

[Babyblue]

What a great read thanks for shareing with us. I will buy his cd for sure.

[Babyblue]

I'm sure Jeff has had PLENTY of opportunities to bad mouth these guys; every interview he's
done since last year always gets to his thoughts on Journey and his dissmissal and
he ALWAYS holds back any anger and is grascious.

And that would've been extremely foolish to do. All that would've created was a backlash against him. Most fans are neutral to him. BTW, he wasn't so gracious in that radio interview on youtube last week when the DJ said they are a karoke band. And JSS said, "you said that not me." Which basically means he was agreeing with him.

Oh so you have a bone with him cause he may have agreed with a DJ over some smal talk and radio joke??? That explains everything,,,,,

Now , I posted this interview, for people who care about Jeff and his future,,,,, youre clearly not one of them,,,,, So why even bother?

Why be pissed at him he was the one let go? I happen to like him and wish he was still with them.But he is better off without them and will still make his mark.JSS KICKS ASS!!!!!!!!

[Tito]

But he is better off without

Then why do most of his fans have sour grapes? They should be grateful that he is no longer with them.

and will still make his mark.JSS KICKS ASS!!!!!!!!

Lets bet.

[Behshad]

But he is better off without

Then why do most of his fans have sour grapes? They should be grateful that he is no longer with them.

and will still make his mark.JSS KICKS ASS!!!!!!!!

Lets bet.

for your information his fans are glad he isnt surrounded by backstabbers. He IS much better off without them. What the fans hated was how shitty he was let go, not why he was let go.
Clearly you dont Jeff. That is fine . But for someone who hates him so much , you do spend a lot of time in topics about him.