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Postby txfirefighter » Tue May 20, 2008 10:54 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
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Rick wrote:
txfirefighter wrote:
Deb wrote:
cyndy! wrote:looks to me like this may be less about tito hating jeff, & more about tito enjoying getting a rise out of those who do like jeff.

i enjoyed reading the interview & look forward to seeing jeff's shows next month.


So right. I still think Tito is Dan's evil twin. :lol: And the 27th/28th can't come quick enough! :)


8)


Don't hurt the guy Gayle. I'm sure if he's a friend of SJ's, he's got to have some redeeming qualities, somewhere. :lol:


I am showing amazing restraint. :evil: I will say that the last time I saw "Tito", he was hugging the porcelain god and was too drunk to speak. Which, apparently, is the way he should spend more of his time.


Oh!!! THAT'S who Tito is :lol: (or was that a different trip ??)


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Postby Melissa » Tue May 20, 2008 10:56 am

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Behshad wrote:tito..we all know what happend cause we witnessed it happen minute by minute when it happend as it happend. You just happen to be a year late and 50 IQ points too short.

On another note I wonder why you're getting kicked out. Smart co-workers is my guess ;)


:shock: he shares a desk ,,

thats where you get mad when you open the right upper drawer and the 10-6am shift stole all your
ketchup and you get mad about that and superglue the stapler shut..


Always looking for new pranks to pull at work on each other...superglue the stapler shut? lol- Never done that, but will soon, thanks for the idea... :twisted:


2 of my sons friends got 3 days in school suspension for super gluing a few locker locks shut! I guess only grown ups get away with pranks like that. Make sure you don't get caught :twisted:


I never get caught :twisted: :lol:
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Postby Saint John » Tue May 20, 2008 12:12 pm

StevePerryHair wrote:
txfirefighter wrote:
Rick wrote:
txfirefighter wrote:
Deb wrote:
cyndy! wrote:looks to me like this may be less about tito hating jeff, & more about tito enjoying getting a rise out of those who do like jeff.

i enjoyed reading the interview & look forward to seeing jeff's shows next month.


So right. I still think Tito is Dan's evil twin. :lol: And the 27th/28th can't come quick enough! :)


8)


Don't hurt the guy Gayle. I'm sure if he's a friend of SJ's, he's got to have some redeeming qualities, somewhere. :lol:


I am showing amazing restraint. :evil: I will say that the last time I saw "Tito", he was hugging the porcelain god and was too drunk to speak. Which, apparently, is the way he should spend more of his time.


Oh!!! THAT'S who Tito is :lol: (or was that a different trip ??)


That's him!!! Do you guys remember me screaming "Someone take a fucking picture!!! I have to have this on film!!!" Ahhh...Kodak moments brought to you by "Tito." :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby DrFU » Tue May 20, 2008 12:23 pm

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Tito wrote:Soto sounds like a real j@goff.


and you sound like a big poopoo head.




Big POOPOO head?!? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Deb, Deb, Deb; and here I thought you were making such progress...

It goes like this:

"Fuck you, Tito."

Jeff gives good interview. I think he needs a hug. I think I'll deliver it in person in, oh, five weeks or so.
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Postby txfirefighter » Tue May 20, 2008 12:26 pm

DrFU wrote:
(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
Tito wrote:Soto sounds like a real j@goff.


and you sound like a big poopoo head.




Big POOPOO head?!? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Deb, Deb, Deb; and here I thought you were making such progress...

It goes like this:

"Fuck you, Tito."

Jeff gives good interview. I think he needs a hug. I think I'll deliver it in person in, oh, five weeks or so.


Right on, sister!!!!
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Postby Saint John » Tue May 20, 2008 12:31 pm

(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:and you sound like a big poopoo head.


I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. Outstanding work, Deb. lol...poopoo head...lol :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Tue May 20, 2008 12:41 pm

Saint John wrote:
(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:and you sound like a big poopoo head.


I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. Outstanding work, Deb. lol...poopoo head...lol :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Postby mistiejourney » Tue May 20, 2008 5:27 pm

texafana wrote:"...the US but in fact the numbers on my solo tour reflected not many from that '06 tour really care about 'the guy who replaced the guy who replaced THE guy'..."

Very true, like the FT.Worth show which had at most 75 peeps. Very humbling for Jeff. I've heard other shows had similar numbers. They should have pimped the hell out of that tour.

"...Let the world decide once the world hears, but first the world must hear! I refuse to throw it out there just so the 10-11,000 who will buy my albums just because my name is on it can get their hands on it. As things progress closer to my upcoming deadline, more information will be planned & revealed. "

Not quite sure what to think of that (bold) line. What do you JSS die hards think of that?

I do agree that if JSS is going to "make it" the time is now, it's time for better management, better decision making on his solo career, etc. Time to market "Jeff Scott Soto" and not the JSS flavor of the month bands he shows up in.


I agree that was an interesting statement and my take on it was that, knowing there are some of us who will buy it just because it is JSS didn't mean he was going to do anything less than perfection on it. He could pretty much throw out anything and some of us (raising hand here! :D ) would automatically buy it.

Now that's coming from a major JSS fan, so I probably spinning it the way I want to see it.
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Postby mistiejourney » Tue May 20, 2008 5:38 pm

Behshad wrote:Hey Rick thats a great idea...
I'm gonna 'find' mine too...

tito , your IP came back the same as Schon's. Care to elaborate !?


You're assuming Schon knows what an IP is.....

Sorry Neal, couldn't resist. :D
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Postby NealIsGod » Tue May 20, 2008 10:03 pm

Tito wrote:Soto sounds full of himself.


I didn't get that from the interview at all. And those of us who have been fortunate enough to meet JSS know that he is just the opposite. A down-to-earth guy who truly appreciates his fans.
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Postby Moon Beam » Tue May 20, 2008 10:28 pm

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Tito wrote:Soto sounds full of himself.


I didn't get that from the interview at all. And those of us who have been fortunate enough to meet JSS know that he is just the opposite. A down-to-earth guy who truly appreciates his fans.




Superbly stated Nig.
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Postby conversationpc » Tue May 20, 2008 10:48 pm

Moon Beam wrote:
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Tito wrote:Soto sounds full of himself.


I didn't get that from the interview at all. And those of us who have been fortunate enough to meet JSS know that he is just the opposite. A down-to-earth guy who truly appreciates his fans.




Superbly stated Nig.


I'll second that statement.
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Postby venomnation » Tue May 20, 2008 10:48 pm

I repeat the statement I constantly make, and am sometimes accused of "preaching" because of it.

"Jeff Scott Soto is the most genuine and hardest working man in the music business today".
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Postby Babyblue » Tue May 20, 2008 11:10 pm

venomnation wrote:I repeat the statement I constantly make, and am sometimes accused of "preaching" because of it.

"Jeff Scott Soto is the most genuine and hardest working man in the music business today".


I agree with ya on that one. :D Rock on JSS :D
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Postby MJM1959 » Tue May 20, 2008 11:54 pm

I read the interview and I believe that JSS is wrong about one thing. He did gain some fans after his stint with Journey. I am SO looking forward to his next release while I am anticipating Journey's release with a yawn.

While some may say that the release of JSS was handled properly from a business point of view, from a human point of view, it sucked rocks. Neal Schon might be a world class guitarist. But there is no doubt whatsoever that he is the current standard bearer for corporate dickheads. The way that he and the band handled JSS dimissal was pathetic and proof positive that Journey is no longer about being a band. It is about bringing in the bucks. The Journey sycophants can have them. While I might pick up the new cd, I have paid my last concert dollar to hear the same old set list and line the pockets of Schon & Cain and company.

Bring on the new JSS release!
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Postby kgdjpubs » Wed May 21, 2008 1:15 am

MJM1959 wrote:I read the interview and I believe that JSS is wrong about one thing. He did gain some fans after his stint with Journey. I am SO looking forward to his next release while I am anticipating Journey's release with a yawn.


Sure, he gained some fans, but if a band as big as Journey (or virtually 99% of those that don't have massive radio airplay of new material) can't even get people excited about new material, it's highly unlikely that most of those would even remember the name of a singer who they saw for one show long enough to buy a cd--which he didn't even sing on, so they support Augeri instead--or think Perry is REALLY good now. The majority of impressions probably would have been on the live performance side, and he is regulated to "that guy who was singing for Journey last time". Take a wider view at the grand scheme of things here. If you add up the number of people that were impressed enough to find out who he was AND be interested in finding out what he has done AND be willing to see him when he tours....AND spread that out over the entire country, you end up with maybe 5 people/show. So his touring attendance increases from 75 to 80 people. That's why in the long run, it was nothing.

Granted, in Europe/UK where there is some amount of name recognition, it may have been more beneficial to him. In the US however, it was some nice memories and a nice paycheck on a dead-end street. His best chance of anything positive career-wise coming from that was other musicians who saw the tour who may not have heard of him before. As far as a fanbase goes, it was basically nothing in the long run.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed May 21, 2008 1:36 am

Tito wrote: What my main problem is, is this whole JSS got backstabbed b.s. No one knows for sure. How do we know that's the truth? Even though he's been "gracious", somehow we know JSS was backstabbed (did Neal tell someone that? How did that leak, WHO told?).



True, indeed.

Your popularity polls are lagging way behind, but you've clearly analyzed the situation.
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Postby Behshad » Wed May 21, 2008 2:12 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Tito wrote: What my main problem is, is this whole JSS got backstabbed b.s. No one knows for sure. How do we know that's the truth? Even though he's been "gracious", somehow we know JSS was backstabbed (did Neal tell someone that? How did that leak, WHO told?).



True, indeed.

Your popularity polls are lagging way behind, but you've clearly analyzed the situation.


How is that true indeed, Ben? dont be fooled by these games tito and Saint John are playing here..,,,, when it comes to the backstabbing I KNOW what happend and so does many other people around here,,, this is not BS,,,,, this is based on FACTS,,, This isnt even much about 'information leaked' or people being mad about Journey lettin Jeff go,,,,, simple fact is that on June 12th, Journey management SLOWLY started taking Jeff's pic and bio off the website and later on announced Jeff's departure saying they are thanking him and wishing him the best in the future,,,,, however, none of them even called him to say an actual thank you,,,,, its simple,, like many others agree here, its anything BUT class,,,, if you dont think that is backstabbing a BAND MEMBER, then I dont know what else will qualify as BACKSTABBING,,,,,


And you, TITO,,,,,Enough is enough ! I know youre just stirring some shit up here,,,and I know why,,,, I know you're friends with Saint John and this time around he had you post here to start some shit, cause he couldnt find one thing in the interview that indicated anything negative for him to use against Jeff to slam his once more,,, so he had you start posting here while he was playing devil's advocate.....
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Postby Saint John » Wed May 21, 2008 2:36 am

Behshad wrote:And you, TITO,,,,,Enough is enough ! I know youre just stirring some shit up here,,,and I know why,,,, I know you're friends with Saint John and this time around he had you post here to start some shit, cause he couldnt find one thing in the interview that indicated anything negative for him to use against Jeff to slam his once more,,, so he had you start posting here while he was playing devil's advocate.....


I didn't send anyone in here. :evil:
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Postby Behshad » Wed May 21, 2008 2:46 am

Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:And you, TITO,,,,,Enough is enough ! I know youre just stirring some shit up here,,,and I know why,,,, I know you're friends with Saint John and this time around he had you post here to start some shit, cause he couldnt find one thing in the interview that indicated anything negative for him to use against Jeff to slam his once more,,, so he had you start posting here while he was playing devil's advocate.....


I didn't send anyone in here. :evil:

whatever dude,,, If you didnt send him here then answer me these few simple questions

1)Do you know tito on a personal level
2)Were'nt you the one who toldl tito about this board
3)How come on your very 1st post in this topic you had to 'stand up ' for Jeff and question tito's comment ,,, but as the discussions went, it seemed like you were thinking on the exact same line as tito,,,, the very same tito who says he knows nothing about what is goin on, YET he happens to sing your words like a parrot?
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Postby Saint John » Wed May 21, 2008 2:57 am

Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:And you, TITO,,,,,Enough is enough ! I know youre just stirring some shit up here,,,and I know why,,,, I know you're friends with Saint John and this time around he had you post here to start some shit, cause he couldnt find one thing in the interview that indicated anything negative for him to use against Jeff to slam his once more,,, so he had you start posting here while he was playing devil's advocate.....


I didn't send anyone in here. :evil:

whatever dude,,, If you didnt send him here then answer me these few simple questions

1)Do you know tito on a personal level
2)Were'nt you the one who toldl tito about this board
3)How come on your very 1st post in this topic you had to 'stand up ' for Jeff and question tito's comment ,,, but as the discussions went, it seemed like you were thinking on the exact same line as tito,,,, the very same tito who says he knows nothing about what is goin on, YET he happens to sing your words like a parrot?


1) Yes, for over 15 years. Lynn, Melissa, Gayle and YOU have met him.
2) Yes, over 2 years ago. I've been begging him to join since then. Others can corroborate this.
3) I thought the "jagoff" comment was way out of line, and upon further thought, he felt the same way. As far as Jeff being "backstabbed" like the rest of you feel, Tito and I share the same opinion in that we think he wasn't. Nothing more. Some, but not all, are tired of the incessant whining. We get it...you think Jeff got fucked, but all the crying and carrying on isn't gonna change that. Do I think Neal, Jon and management are angels? Hell no, but I do think that this situation was handled on a "tit for tat" basis and I'm ok with that. You fuckers are lucky they didn't handle this situation like Nostrildamus might have....Jeff would've been waiting around to hear about his status for 10 fucking years!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Behshad » Wed May 21, 2008 3:10 am

Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:And you, TITO,,,,,Enough is enough ! I know youre just stirring some shit up here,,,and I know why,,,, I know you're friends with Saint John and this time around he had you post here to start some shit, cause he couldnt find one thing in the interview that indicated anything negative for him to use against Jeff to slam his once more,,, so he had you start posting here while he was playing devil's advocate.....


I didn't send anyone in here. :evil:

whatever dude,,, If you didnt send him here then answer me these few simple questions

1)Do you know tito on a personal level
2)Were'nt you the one who toldl tito about this board
3)How come on your very 1st post in this topic you had to 'stand up ' for Jeff and question tito's comment ,,, but as the discussions went, it seemed like you were thinking on the exact same line as tito,,,, the very same tito who says he knows nothing about what is goin on, YET he happens to sing your words like a parrot?


1) Yes, for over 15 years. Lynn, Melissa, Gayle and YOU have met him.
2) Yes, over 2 years ago. I've been begging him to join since then. Others can corroborate this.
3) I thought the "jagoff" comment was way out of line, and upon further thought, he felt the same way. As far as Jeff being "backstabbed" like the rest of you feel, Tito and I share the same opinion in that we think he wasn't. Nothing more. Some, but not all, are tired of the incessant whining. We get it...you think Jeff got fucked, but all the crying and carrying on isn't gonna change that. Do I think Neal, Jon and management are angels? Hell no, but I do think that this situation was handled on a "tit for tat" basis and I'm ok with that. You fuckers are lucky they didn't handle this situation like Nostrildamus might have....Jeff would've been waiting around to hear about his status for 10 fucking years!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:




Dan,
Your sources are wrong,,,,, the things you say and think happened which lead to Jeff's departure are NOT the reasons,,, there is no tit for tat,,,,

Also,,, if youre tired of the whining and crying, dont fuckin bring it up,,, your buddy tito got educated by you and posted things you think,,,,, no one was bringing the old stuff up till your buddy started shit,,,,, we may not wanna talk about ,,, we may have moved on,, but you better belive it that if its brought up, we will stand united and tell you how we feel about how they treated Jeff,,,,,, and we're tired of you repeating yourself " He was never official " and "He was hired, did the job and was let go", crap,,,,,
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Postby Saint John » Wed May 21, 2008 3:17 am

[quote="Behshad"][/quote]

I quoted the part of your last post that made sense. :lol:
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Postby Behshad » Wed May 21, 2008 3:37 am

Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:


I quoted the part of your last post that made sense. :lol:
here's a quote for you:
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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Wed May 21, 2008 4:00 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Tito wrote: What my main problem is, is this whole JSS got backstabbed b.s. No one knows for sure. How do we know that's the truth? Even though he's been "gracious", somehow we know JSS was backstabbed (did Neal tell someone that? How did that leak, WHO told?).



True, indeed.

Your popularity polls are lagging way behind, but you've clearly analyzed the situation.


Tito,
I LOVE to HATE you
but HATE that I "almost" LOVE your wit and tenacity :lol:

You're right. Jeff didn't remain "completely" silent.
Yes, in any and all interviews w/outside sources, he's been
mum and kind on the subject.

Behshad recently recapped events starting on June 12 of last year...
I have a PM I saved, and will not ever divulge, from Jeff from June 13
and he pretty much layed it all out there. Not too much info, but let me
know he got the word, it had been known by many for days, was informed
by management and asked to walk away "quietly". No exclaimations
on exactly why...

So yes, he did open up to a few of his friends here but never in outside press.
So that is why it is bitter for some of us.
Some of us considered Jeff as more than just a Rockstar...
He is our friend and loyalty is a prescious thing, don't you think?

But we have all moved on, I am axniously awaiting Jeff's new release
and I am also pretty excited about Journey's next chapter.
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Postby Luvsaugeri » Wed May 21, 2008 4:24 am

Deb wrote:
Tito wrote:Then we have Journey who release a professional press release and basically said it was amicable and wished him the best of luck. They've basically repeated that in subsequent interviews as well. So most of the public do not know and care what really went down and think everything is cool.



Yep and we all know what a truthful bunch Journey can be right? They repeatedly said they knew nothing of the lipping either...........how can you not know your frontman is lipping. :roll: As far as I'm concerned, how they treated JSS and SA definitely dropped them down a peg or 2 in my books.


BINGO Deb!! Are we seeing a pattern here?? If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....
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Postby Tito » Wed May 21, 2008 4:25 am

I've been to this website (Melodicrock.com) since it's early days. The message board I looked at every great once in awhile. I only started to view the message board with regularity, since the alleged tapegate and when Saint John became a regular poster. Therefore, I know the about the events of really the last two years. No one had to educate me on anything. I just didn't post until last week. If you also look, I have posted in several artist threads, not just this one. The majority have been in the Journey thread but so are the vast majority of the postings on this board.
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Postby Saint John » Wed May 21, 2008 4:29 am

Luvsaugeri wrote:If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....


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Postby Moon Beam » Wed May 21, 2008 9:57 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Tito wrote: What my main problem is, is this whole JSS got backstabbed b.s. No one knows for sure. How do we know that's the truth? Even though he's been "gracious", somehow we know JSS was backstabbed (did Neal tell someone that? How did that leak, WHO told?).



True, indeed.



I do believe your original problem that went to edit lays here in this thread.
"He came off full of himself" and I missed any apology you upheld.

Now You and JoePa are havin a "think about that fest" with who knew what?, Holla Heaps!
My beef all along has been the honesty card with the band at hand.

Yes I feel they owe it to me for the effort "We" put into earning those dollars to spend
on the likes of them.
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Wed May 21, 2008 10:39 am

Tito wrote:I've been to this website (Melodicrock.com) since it's early days. The message board I looked at every great once in awhile. I only started to view the message board with regularity, since the alleged tapegate and when Saint John became a regular poster. Therefore, I know the about the events of really the last two years. No one had to educate me on anything. I just didn't post until last week. If you also look, I have posted in several artist threads, not just this one. The majority have been in the Journey thread but so are the vast majority of the postings on this board.


hey Tito... just start over.. and for crying out loud DONT follow the BSD model!!

he came in swinging at everything a year and a half ago and almost got deleted his VERY FIRST DAY!! :lol: :lol:

same with Moose and Youngjourneyfan.... :lol: :lol: i didnt like any 3 of those freaks at first!! BSD and i got into a

fight his VERY FIRST DAY!!!! :lol:

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