Barak says we can't eat and drive and stay warm anymore

[Rhiannon]

[bluejeangirl76]

I love it!!

[7 Wishes]

i'm wondering if obama will have a chance against mccain come november.some say yes,some say no but it will be interesting to see how it all happens.

PLEASE use capital letters when they're gramatically necessary.

Just as many people think McCain has "no chance" against Obama. Wait for the debates, and see the degree of tumutluosness in which the economy stands before you make prescient assertions.

[Rhiannon]

I love it!!

Art imitating life?

[7 Wishes]

I love how you Republicans get to name-call and generalize all day, but the minute a Democrat says ANYTHING you assume it derives from a mandate of a required air of superiority. I have NO IDEA as to with which party mikemarrs affiliates himself - I really don't. The comment was made in good humour. But keep prattling on. That's why I don't get involved in political diatribes on this board anymore.

BTW, I am a Democrat, but I truly like McCain, and I'd probably be leaning in his direction were it not for his unmitiated support of the war in Iraq, which is the biggest disaster since Carter raised the Federal Rate to 20% in 1978. Except 100,000 innocent Iraquis are dead as a consequence.

[RedWingFan]

I have NO IDEA as to with which party mikemarrs affiliates himself - I really don't. The comment was made in good humour. But keep prattling on. That's why I don't get involved in political diatribes on this board anymore.

I believe he's a democrat, I'm only going off of memory so he can correct me if I'm wrong. If I am, then Mike, I am very sorry I just typed that, and didn't mean to smear your good name.

BTW, I am a Democrat, but I truly like McCain, and I'd probably be leaning in his direction were it not for his unmitiated support of the war in Iraq, which is the biggest disaster since Carter raised the Federal Rate to 20% in 1978. Except 100,000 innocent Iraquis are dead as a consequence.

Do we know if American soldiers killed 100,000 innocent Iraqis or did terrorists kill some of them? America gets blamed for all of them? I'm sure there have been innocent Afgan's killed since we went in there. Terrorist's escape all blame? Just something to think about.

[Saint John]

Except 100,000 innocent Iraquis are dead as a consequence.

Which is actually less than the 5 year moving average of the Hussein administration, and they're moving toward democracy. Schools are being built, rape rooms are gone, and people are voting. Besides, we didn't kill those Iraqis and you know it.

[mikemarrs]

i lean toward the democrats and was wanting to see hillary against mccain.i really don't know much about obama but the preacher thing that has happened and a few other incidents have made me skeptical about obama.not sure yet if he has enough experience and leadership at this time.

[7 Wishes]

There was no Al-Quaida in Iraq prior to 9/11.

This war will go down as the biggest foreign policy blunder of the 21st century. We should have stayed in Afghanistan, smoked out that murdering bastard and his henchmen, and put him on trial for crimes against humanity. The entire world would have been behind us. There was NO REASON to invade Iraq.

Look, guys, I understand the vociferousness with which you defend your party's political decisions, but you have to open your mind's eye here. The world would be a better place with Bin Laden dead, albeit with Hussein still in power. He was impotent by the time the U.S....I mean, er, "coalition" forces arrived.

[RedWingFan]

Look, guys, I understand the vociferousness with which you defend your party's political decisions, but you have to open your mind's eye here.

It has absolutely ZERO to do with party.

[7 Wishes]

RWF, you have great taste in hockey teams.

However, 55% of Republican still support the war, while only 10% of Democrats approve (if you do the math, that means 2 out of 3 Americans believe the invasion was a mistake).

[Rick]

RWF, you have great taste in hockey teams.

However, 55% of Republican still support the war, while only 10% of Democrats approve (if you do the math, that means 2 out of 3 Americans believe the invasion was a mistake).

Extend that vote to the world and the numbers would be very dismal.

[7 Wishes]

It's about 7% globally.

[RedWingFan]

RWF, you have great taste in hockey teams.

However, 55% of Republican still support the war, while only 10% of Democrats approve (if you do the math, that means 2 out of 3 Americans believe the invasion was a mistake).

I was talking about myself personally. The numbers were much different when we went in. Even though the media predicted 10,000 dead American's to take Baghdad. The 10% number is not surprising (Monday morning qb's with no intestinal fortitude)

[RedWingFan]

RWF, you have great taste in hockey teams.

However, 55% of Republican still support the war, while only 10% of Democrats approve (if you do the math, that means 2 out of 3 Americans believe the invasion was a mistake).

Extend that vote to the world and the numbers would be very dismal.

Poll the same people and they'll vote in favor of America outsourcing all of her jobs. Should we go with them on that also?

[conversationpc]

RWF, you have great taste in hockey teams.

However, 55% of Republican still support the war, while only 10% of Democrats approve (if you do the math, that means 2 out of 3 Americans believe the invasion was a mistake).

I was talking about myself personally. The numbers were much different when we went in. Even though the media predicted 10,000 dead American's to take Baghdad. The 10% number is not surprising (Monday morning qb's with no intestinal fortitude)

Yeah, it's amazing how many people can be against the war when they don't think things are going well but they were for it when it first started. It has nothing to do with whether or not it was morally right, in this case, and has everything to do with how it is PERCEIVED to be going. Remember, a majority of people in WWII were against that war and I believe I also read the same thing about the Revolutionary War.

[Rick]

RWF, you have great taste in hockey teams.

However, 55% of Republican still support the war, while only 10% of Democrats approve (if you do the math, that means 2 out of 3 Americans believe the invasion was a mistake).

Extend that vote to the world and the numbers would be very dismal.

Poll the same people and they'll vote in favor of America outsourcing all of her jobs. Should we go with them on that also?

Not sure how that relates to the topic, but you think 93% of the world is wrong about the war in Iraq?

[Saint John]

Not sure how that relates to the topic, but you think 93% of the world is wrong about the war in Iraq?

Yes.

[RedWingFan]

Remember, a majority of people in WWII were against that war and I believe I also read the same thing about the Revolutionary War.

Yup, pre-Pearl Harbor, Americans were anti-war by a very large margin. Same with the Revolutionary War.

[RedWingFan]

RWF, you have great taste in hockey teams.

However, 55% of Republican still support the war, while only 10% of Democrats approve (if you do the math, that means 2 out of 3 Americans believe the invasion was a mistake).

Extend that vote to the world and the numbers would be very dismal.

Poll the same people and they'll vote in favor of America outsourcing all of her jobs. Should we go with them on that also?

Not sure how that relates to the topic, but you think 93% of the world is wrong about the war in Iraq?

It relates in the fact that most foreign people DO NOT have America's best interest at heart. Pulling out of Iraq would be awful for the US as would outsourcing our jobs to their countries.

[Rick]

RWF, you have great taste in hockey teams.

However, 55% of Republican still support the war, while only 10% of Democrats approve (if you do the math, that means 2 out of 3 Americans believe the invasion was a mistake).

Extend that vote to the world and the numbers would be very dismal.

Poll the same people and they'll vote in favor of America outsourcing all of her jobs. Should we go with them on that also?

Not sure how that relates to the topic, but you think 93% of the world is wrong about the war in Iraq?

It relates in the fact that most foreign people DO NOT have America's best interest at heart. Pulling out of Iraq would be awful for the US as would outsourcing our jobs to their countries.

We're already outsourcing jobs and that needs to stop, as does the war. If the U.S. would mind her own business and stop trying to control the world and other countries resources, those other countries might just give a shit about her.

[RedWingFan]

We're already outsourcing jobs and that needs to stop, as does the war. If the U.S. would mind her own business and stop trying to control the world and other countries resources, those other countries might just give a shit about her.

I guess that would include entering WWII as well? Germany never attacked us, why should we care if they conquer all of Europe? America's interests need to be defended.

[Saint John]

If the U.S. would mind her own business and stop trying to control the world and other countries resources, those other countries might just give a shit about her.

This is the exact mindset that let Al Qaeda spread propagnada, recruit, train and plot. We won't make that mistake again. That's why Obama will lose. He wants to meet with these terrorists fucks and have tea in France. No thanks.

[Rick]

We're already outsourcing jobs and that needs to stop, as does the war. If the U.S. would mind her own business and stop trying to control the world and other countries resources, those other countries might just give a shit about her.

I guess that would include entering WWII as well? Germany never attacked us, why should we care if they conquer all of Europe? America's interests need to be defended.

What's the difference? We're trying to conquer all of the Arabic nations.

[RedWingFan]

We're already outsourcing jobs and that needs to stop, as does the war. If the U.S. would mind her own business and stop trying to control the world and other countries resources, those other countries might just give a shit about her.

I guess that would include entering WWII as well? Germany never attacked us, why should we care if they conquer all of Europe? America's interests need to be defended.

What's the difference? We're trying to conquer all of the Arabic nations.

Dude do you realize we are the only nation in the history of the world that has won wars, helped rebuild the nations and given them back?
Way to equate the US with Nazi's by the way.

[7 Wishes]

Right. Let's compare Iraq with the Revolutionary War.

Fuck!

THE REASON PEOPLE "SUPPORTED" THE WAR WAS BECAUSE BUSH LIED. PERIOD. HE LIED. Once they found out he had LIED, they were against it, for the most part.

[RedWingFan]

Right. Let's compare Iraq with the Revolutionary War.

Fuck!

THE REASON PEOPLE "SUPPORTED" THE WAR WAS BECAUSE BUSH LIED. PERIOD. HE LIED.

Oh yeah he lied along with a half dozen other foreign leaders and doctored intelligence. I keep forgetting. Sorry.

[Rick]

We're already outsourcing jobs and that needs to stop, as does the war. If the U.S. would mind her own business and stop trying to control the world and other countries resources, those other countries might just give a shit about her.

I guess that would include entering WWII as well? Germany never attacked us, why should we care if they conquer all of Europe? America's interests need to be defended.

What's the difference? We're trying to conquer all of the Arabic nations.

Dude do you realize we are the only nation in the history of the world that has won wars, helped rebuild the nations and given them back?
Way to equate the US with Nazi's by the way.

I'm not equating it, the rest of the world is.

[7 Wishes]

Oh yeah he lied along with a half dozen other foreign leaders and doctored intelligence. I keep forgetting. Sorry.

Dude, even Bush's whipping boy Blair admitted recently that the evidence, in retrospect, was not sufficient grounds in of itself for declaring war.

[RedWingFan]

We're already outsourcing jobs and that needs to stop, as does the war. If the U.S. would mind her own business and stop trying to control the world and other countries resources, those other countries might just give a shit about her.

I guess that would include entering WWII as well? Germany never attacked us, why should we care if they conquer all of Europe? America's interests need to be defended.

What's the difference? We're trying to conquer all of the Arabic nations.

Dude do you realize we are the only nation in the history of the world that has won wars, helped rebuild the nations and given them back?
Way to equate the US with Nazi's by the way.

I'm not equating it, the rest of the world is.

You didn't just type, "What's the difference? We're trying to conquer all of the Arabic nations."