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Postby EightyRock » Wed May 21, 2008 4:59 am

He'll be on steroids before this summer's tour is over. Next year, tops. Nobody can sing that catalog....and live through it. If they think he's another Perry...just watch and wait. Another one will bite the dust before long. I hope Arnel invests his money from day one, just to prepare for his eventual departure.
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Postby brywool » Wed May 21, 2008 5:19 am

EightyRock wrote:He'll be on steroids before this summer's tour is over. Next year, tops. Nobody can sing that catalog....and live through it. If they think he's another Perry...just watch and wait. Another one will bite the dust before long. I hope Arnel invests his money from day one, just to prepare for his eventual departure.


Another one will bite the dust... you mean like Perry? The guy's been singing this high stuff in clubs for most of his life and definitely longer than Perry's career was with Journey. I think he's got a great chance of actually going the distance. We'll see, but things seem to be in his favor.
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Postby stevew2 » Wed May 21, 2008 5:51 am

EightyRock wrote:He'll be on steroids before this summer's tour is over. Next year, tops. Nobody can sing that catalog....and live through it. If they think he's another Perry...just watch and wait. Another one will bite the dust before long. I hope Arnel invests his money from day one, just to prepare for his eventual departure.
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Postby brywool » Wed May 21, 2008 5:52 am

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EightyRock wrote:He'll be on steroids before this summer's tour is over. Next year, tops. Nobody can sing that catalog....and live through it. If they think he's another Perry...just watch and wait. Another one will bite the dust before long. I hope Arnel invests his money from day one, just to prepare for his eventual departure.
Amen brother


yeah of course he will because he's not Jeremey. Come on you guys, open your ears... You might be right, but I don't think so.
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Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Wed May 21, 2008 5:53 am

stevew2 wrote:
EightyRock wrote:He'll be on steroids before this summer's tour is over. Next year, tops. Nobody can sing that catalog....and live through it. If they think he's another Perry...just watch and wait. Another one will bite the dust before long. I hope Arnel invests his money from day one, just to prepare for his eventual departure.
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No, you can't "Amen" the prediction of Arnel having to go on steroids. Your prediction was that he'll be singing to tapes by August. I didn't forget. Let me know when that one comes true. :roll:
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Postby stevew2 » Wed May 21, 2008 5:58 am

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EightyRock wrote:He'll be on steroids before this summer's tour is over. Next year, tops. Nobody can sing that catalog....and live through it. If they think he's another Perry...just watch and wait. Another one will bite the dust before long. I hope Arnel invests his money from day one, just to prepare for his eventual departure.
Amen brother


No, you can't "Amen" the prediction of Arnel having to go on steroids. Your prediction was that he'll be singing to tapes by August. I didn't forget. Let me know when that one comes true. :roll:
Your on the ball, Ill stick by my prediction, but i can still amen someone that has a brain. Steriods wont help TheDirty Dozen meat grinder
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Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Wed May 21, 2008 6:36 am

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EightyRock wrote:He'll be on steroids before this summer's tour is over. Next year, tops. Nobody can sing that catalog....and live through it. If they think he's another Perry...just watch and wait. Another one will bite the dust before long. I hope Arnel invests his money from day one, just to prepare for his eventual departure.
Amen brother


No, you can't "Amen" the prediction of Arnel having to go on steroids. Your prediction was that he'll be singing to tapes by August. I didn't forget. Let me know when that one comes true. :roll:
Your on the ball, Ill stick by my prediction, but i can still amen someone that has a brain. Steriods wont help TheDirty Dozen meat grinder


Yes, thank you. I am on the ball. :wink:

But why do you think Arnel's voice will give out one month into his first tour with Journey, while your man Augeri was able to last seven (give or take a few months) years with no major problems? From all accounts Arnel is far more prepared for the rigors of this tour than Augeri was. Why are you so convinced he won't last more than one month?
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Postby brywool » Wed May 21, 2008 6:41 am

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
EightyRock wrote:He'll be on steroids before this summer's tour is over. Next year, tops. Nobody can sing that catalog....and live through it. If they think he's another Perry...just watch and wait. Another one will bite the dust before long. I hope Arnel invests his money from day one, just to prepare for his eventual departure.
Amen brother


No, you can't "Amen" the prediction of Arnel having to go on steroids. Your prediction was that he'll be singing to tapes by August. I didn't forget. Let me know when that one comes true. :roll:
Your on the ball, Ill stick by my prediction, but i can still amen someone that has a brain. Steriods wont help TheDirty Dozen meat grinder


Yes, thank you. I am on the ball. :wink:

But why do you think Arnel's voice will give out one month into his first tour with Journey, while your man Augeri was able to last seven (give or take a few months) years with no major problems? From all accounts Arnel is far more prepared for the rigors of this tour than Augeri was. Why are you so convinced he won't last more than one month?


I think he just wanted another guy in the slot. So if Arnel fails, is the other guy going to get another shot at the majors or something? Arnel's like a freakin' Cinderella story. I hope he kicks everyone's ass personally because the story behind the guy is really cool.
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Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Wed May 21, 2008 6:43 am

brywool wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
EightyRock wrote:He'll be on steroids before this summer's tour is over. Next year, tops. Nobody can sing that catalog....and live through it. If they think he's another Perry...just watch and wait. Another one will bite the dust before long. I hope Arnel invests his money from day one, just to prepare for his eventual departure.
Amen brother


No, you can't "Amen" the prediction of Arnel having to go on steroids. Your prediction was that he'll be singing to tapes by August. I didn't forget. Let me know when that one comes true. :roll:
Your on the ball, Ill stick by my prediction, but i can still amen someone that has a brain. Steriods wont help TheDirty Dozen meat grinder


Yes, thank you. I am on the ball. :wink:

But why do you think Arnel's voice will give out one month into his first tour with Journey, while your man Augeri was able to last seven (give or take a few months) years with no major problems? From all accounts Arnel is far more prepared for the rigors of this tour than Augeri was. Why are you so convinced he won't last more than one month?


I think he just wanted another guy in the slot. So if Arnel fails, is the other guy going to get another shot at the majors or something? Arnel's like a freakin' Cinderella story. I hope he kicks everyone's ass personally because the story behind the guy is really cool.


You're right. Not only is he a Cinderella story - he can deliver. And then some. THAT is why he, and this incarnation of Journey, will succeed.
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Postby brywool » Wed May 21, 2008 6:56 am

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You're right. Not only is he a Cinderella story - he can deliver. And then some. THAT is why he, and this incarnation of Journey, will succeed.


Not to mention, it gives us old guys hope that things can happen if you persevere. The guy has been through the meat grinder in his life. Lost his voice. Been on drugs. Been on the streets... and when I saw him with Journey in Chile, he was SO happy to be there. Yeah, he blew a few things in his excitement, but man, who wouldn't.?! Being the singer for Journey is THE dream gig for a rock singer in my opinion. It's my nightmare cuz I don't have that range, but that's beside the point... the fact that here's this foreign guy that's been slogging it out in bars forever... I don't know, I think it's pretty freakin' magical myself. I mean, Augeri had his shot with Tall Stories and then later with Tyketto, only to be chewed up by the Journey touring machine. He'd been out of commission for a good ten years (I believe). Arnel's been doing this most of his life singing a lot of these tunes and Heart (for God's sake!).

I just think the guy deserves all the luck he can get. Watching Schon with him was also very cool. Neal was CLEARLY digging Journey for the first time in a long time. He may have been with JSS in there too, but this sounds LIKE Journey. I'm stoked.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed May 21, 2008 6:59 am

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:But why do you think Arnel's voice will give out one month into his first tour with Journey, while your man Augeri was able to last seven (give or take a few months) years with no major problems?


Augeri lasted seven years through smoke and mirrors.
Backing tapes, Deen singing his parts, pro-tools, turned down lead vox...not a very good example.
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Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Wed May 21, 2008 7:01 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:But why do you think Arnel's voice will give out one month into his first tour with Journey, while your man Augeri was able to last seven (give or take a few months) years with no major problems?


Augeri lasted seven years through smoke and mirrors.
Backing tapes, Deen singing his parts, pro-tools, turned down lead vox...not a very good example.


My seven years was a conservative estimate, taking those things into consideration. Wouldn't you say he did it mostly on his own from 1998-2004? Except for some spots on the 2003 tour. 2005 and 2006 certainly do not count.
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Postby brywool » Wed May 21, 2008 7:01 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:But why do you think Arnel's voice will give out one month into his first tour with Journey, while your man Augeri was able to last seven (give or take a few months) years with no major problems?


Augeri lasted seven years through smoke and mirrors.
Backing tapes, Deen singing his parts, pro-tools, turned down lead vox...not a very good example.


SA never had the power or range that Arnel has demonstrated to this point.
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Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Wed May 21, 2008 7:03 am

brywool wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:But why do you think Arnel's voice will give out one month into his first tour with Journey, while your man Augeri was able to last seven (give or take a few months) years with no major problems?


Augeri lasted seven years through smoke and mirrors.
Backing tapes, Deen singing his parts, pro-tools, turned down lead vox...not a very good example.


SA never had the power or range that Arnel has demonstrated to this point.


That was my point when asking stevew2 why he thought Arnel would fail just one month into his first tour. Augeri, as much as I liked the guy with Journey, had no where near the pipes coming in that Arnel does. Or the experience singing in this range.
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Postby pinkvelvet » Wed May 21, 2008 8:12 am

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
brywool wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:But why do you think Arnel's voice will give out one month into his first tour with Journey, while your man Augeri was able to last seven (give or take a few months) years with no major problems?


Augeri lasted seven years through smoke and mirrors.
Backing tapes, Deen singing his parts, pro-tools, turned down lead vox...not a very good example.


SA never had the power or range that Arnel has demonstrated to this point.


That was my point when asking stevew2 why he thought Arnel would fail just one month into his first tour. Augeri, as much as I liked the guy with Journey, had no where near the pipes coming in that Arnel does. Or the experience singing in this range.


Asking Stevew a question about Arnel is like banging your head on the wall over and over again. Youre not going to get a sensible answer. He is pretty much hating everything Arnel does.
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Postby wednesday's child » Wed May 21, 2008 9:55 am

EightyRock wrote:I hope Arnel invests his money from day one, just to prepare for his eventual departure.


Question is WHAT he's going to invest.
Is Arnel going to be paid "like a motherfucker?"
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Seriously though, get comfy, because Arnel's going to be around awhile.
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Postby faithfullyjourney » Wed May 21, 2008 11:20 am

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Seriously though, get comfy, because Arnel's going to be around awhile.



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Postby stevew2 » Wed May 21, 2008 12:04 pm

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
EightyRock wrote:He'll be on steroids before this summer's tour is over. Next year, tops. Nobody can sing that catalog....and live through it. If they think he's another Perry...just watch and wait. Another one will bite the dust before long. I hope Arnel invests his money from day one, just to prepare for his eventual departure.
Amen brother


No, you can't "Amen" the prediction of Arnel having to go on steroids. Your prediction was that he'll be singing to tapes by August. I didn't forget. Let me know when that one comes true. :roll:
Your on the ball, Ill stick by my prediction, but i can still amen someone that has a brain. Steriods wont help TheDirty Dozen meat grinder


Yes, thank you. I am on the ball. :wink:

But why do you think Arnel's voice will give out one month into his first tour with Journey, while your man Augeri was able to last seven (give or take a few months) years with no major problems? From all accounts Arnel is far more prepared for the rigors of this tour than Augeri was. Why are you so convinced he won't last more than one month?
He is singing in full voice,and I hear straining, and scatching .Cant be good for the vocal cords. Augeri used head voice and falsettoes to save his voice, it worked for awhile. Steve A had problems off and on. Arnel did his thing with the Zoo , from what i saw on you tube, he would take a break between songs and talk, He wont have that option with jrny,and jrny wont cut him any slack
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Postby stevew2 » Wed May 21, 2008 12:27 pm

pinkvelvet wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
brywool wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:But why do you think Arnel's voice will give out one month into his first tour with Journey, while your man Augeri was able to last seven (give or take a few months) years with no major problems?


Augeri lasted seven years through smoke and mirrors.
Backing tapes, Deen singing his parts, pro-tools, turned down lead vox...not a very good example.


SA never had the power or range that Arnel has demonstrated to this point.


That was my point when asking stevew2 why he thought Arnel would fail just one month into his first tour. Augeri, as much as I liked the guy with Journey, had no where near the pipes coming in that Arnel does. Or the experience singing in this range.


Asking Stevew a question about Arnel is like banging your head on the wall over and over again. Youre not going to get a sensible answer. He is pretty much hating everything Arnel does.
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Postby stevew2 » Wed May 21, 2008 12:41 pm

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:But why do you think Arnel's voice will give out one month into his first tour with Journey, while your man Augeri was able to last seven (give or take a few months) years with no major problems?


Augeri lasted seven years through smoke and mirrors.
Backing tapes, Deen singing his parts, pro-tools, turned down lead vox...not a very good example.


My seven years was a conservative estimate, taking those things into consideration. Wouldn't you say he did it mostly on his own from 1998-2004? Except for some spots on the 2003 tour. 2005 and 2006 certainly do not count.
Yes he did, I went to 19 concerts with Steve A, i saw him struggle on many,he did a good job, and entertained everyone,if they took breaks like they said they would ,This wouldnt have happened, thats my beef, The band is about $$ and they wont stop for a second if a lead singer has vocal problems. Neal just wants a vocal to play his guitar on period. This topic has been discussed before and will again when Arnel bits the dust. I have nothing against him,and he can sing.I just see a Steve P imatation gone bad by Aug. 31. If not,Ill check them out if they do the " after the tour", tour, when they are done with Heart. I dont see it happening though
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Wed May 21, 2008 12:47 pm

May 20th, 2009:

stevew2: i wuz wrong about arnel Okay sorri guyz imma go sit in th cornur now
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Postby stevew2 » Wed May 21, 2008 12:48 pm

ProgRocker53 wrote:May 20th, 2009:

stevew2: i wuz wrong about arnel Okay sorri guyz imma go sit in th cornur now
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Postby corncob » Wed May 21, 2008 2:24 pm

stevew2 wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:But why do you think Arnel's voice will give out one month into his first tour with Journey, while your man Augeri was able to last seven (give or take a few months) years with no major problems?


Augeri lasted seven years through smoke and mirrors.
Backing tapes, Deen singing his parts, pro-tools, turned down lead vox...not a very good example.


My seven years was a conservative estimate, taking those things into consideration. Wouldn't you say he did it mostly on his own from 1998-2004? Except for some spots on the 2003 tour. 2005 and 2006 certainly do not count.
Yes he did, I went to 19 concerts with Steve A, i saw him struggle on many,he did a good job, and entertained everyone,if they took breaks like they said they would ,This wouldnt have happened, thats my beef, The band is about $$ and they wont stop for a second if a lead singer has vocal problems. Neal just wants a vocal to play his guitar on period. This topic has been discussed before and will again when Arnel bits the dust. I have nothing against him,and he can sing.I just see a Steve P imatation gone bad by Aug. 31. If not,Ill check them out if they do the " after the tour", tour, when they are done with Heart. I dont see it happening though


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Postby ttango1 » Wed May 21, 2008 5:04 pm

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annie89509 wrote:But why is he dragging the notes out like that? Maybe he's trying to put his own spin to them?



Blame it on Pilita Corrales.
Two generations of Filipino vocalists grew up thinking all that 'sustain' is a good thing.
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Postby Jeremey » Wed May 21, 2008 10:01 pm

Arnel should do fine during his tenure with Journey. Let's face it folks, Journey has got some of the best production around...Singing these songs for less than an hour and a half 3-4 nights a week is definitely not going to do Arnel in. Whether his voice could maintain the touring schedule Augeri had is one thing, but I don't see the same sort of trashing in this year's schedule (maybe Ann and Robin had a say in that...)....The only thing I would be a little concerned about as a singer is that Arnel supposedly lost his voice completely only a few years ago. If the issue was polyps on the vocal cords, they never go away, they can only be controlled. But it sounds to me like it was more an issue of fatigue and overuse combined with drug abuse and a generally unhealthy lifestyle. If Bob Sugarman has had his turn with him, Arnel's certainly going to be maintaining some pretty healthy habits and should be able to survive the tour just fine.
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Postby brywool » Thu May 22, 2008 1:05 am

Jeremey wrote:Arnel should do fine during his tenure with Journey. Let's face it folks, Journey has got some of the best production around...Singing these songs for less than an hour and a half 3-4 nights a week is definitely not going to do Arnel in. Whether his voice could maintain the touring schedule Augeri had is one thing, but I don't see the same sort of trashing in this year's schedule (maybe Ann and Robin had a say in that...)....The only thing I would be a little concerned about as a singer is that Arnel supposedly lost his voice completely only a few years ago. If the issue was polyps on the vocal cords, they never go away, they can only be controlled. But it sounds to me like it was more an issue of fatigue and overuse combined with drug abuse and a generally unhealthy lifestyle. If Bob Sugarman has had his turn with him, Arnel's certainly going to be maintaining some pretty healthy habits and should be able to survive the tour just fine.


Jeremey, who's Sugarman? Voice teacher?
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Postby finalfight » Thu May 22, 2008 1:28 am

brywool wrote:Jeremey, who's Sugarman? Voice teacher?


Sugarman is what stevew2 calls his crack dealer.
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Postby NealIsGod » Thu May 22, 2008 1:33 am

finalfight wrote:
brywool wrote:Jeremey, who's Sugarman? Voice teacher?


Sugarman is what stevew2 calls his crack dealer.


:lol: Nah, that's Big Willy. He gave him a habit that he didn't want. That's a pity. :P
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Postby finalfight » Thu May 22, 2008 1:36 am

NealIsGod wrote:
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brywool wrote:Jeremey, who's Sugarman? Voice teacher?


Sugarman is what stevew2 calls his crack dealer.


:lol: Nah, that's Big Willy. He gave him a habit that he didn't want. That's a pity. :P


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Postby brywool » Thu May 22, 2008 1:42 am

nah, really, who is he?


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