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Postby conversationpc » Thu May 22, 2008 1:05 pm

JrnyScarab wrote:I remember when THAT was the fear of the moment. Looks like Peak Oil might overtake Global Warming soon.


Been watching/listening to Glenn Beck today? :lol:
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Postby JrnyScarab » Thu May 22, 2008 1:13 pm

conversationpc wrote:
JrnyScarab wrote:I remember when THAT was the fear of the moment. Looks like Peak Oil might overtake Global Warming soon.


Been watching/listening to Glenn Beck today? :lol:


Actually no. Has he gotten on board yet? I've been following this for the last 2 years. I think we are screwed in the not too distant future.
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Postby conversationpc » Thu May 22, 2008 1:17 pm

JrnyScarab wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
JrnyScarab wrote:I remember when THAT was the fear of the moment. Looks like Peak Oil might overtake Global Warming soon.


Been watching/listening to Glenn Beck today? :lol:


Actually no. Has he gotten on board yet? I've been following this for the last 2 years. I think we are screwed in the not too distant future.


Yeah, he talked about this for a whole segment on his radio show this morning. He was saying that some believe we may have already reached peak production and that we are in real trouble with China's exponentially growing demand.
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Postby JrnyScarab » Thu May 22, 2008 1:25 pm

conversationpc wrote:
JrnyScarab wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
JrnyScarab wrote:I remember when THAT was the fear of the moment. Looks like Peak Oil might overtake Global Warming soon.


Been watching/listening to Glenn Beck today? :lol:


Actually no. Has he gotten on board yet? I've been following this for the last 2 years. I think we are screwed in the not too distant future.


Yeah, he talked about this for a whole segment on his radio show this morning. He was saying that some believe we may have already reached peak production and that we are in real trouble with China's exponentially growing demand.


That's basically it. We definitely have reached peak Light Sweet Crude oil production. The Saudis say they have plenty of extra oil but no one wants it because it's the Heavy Crude which most refineries can't process easily. Also, the oil that's left is getting harder and more expensive to produce. Like deep in the sea. No more easy gushers like old times. Hey, maybe that will cure global warming. We won't have to worry about government signing treaties, we will have to burn less in the future due to supply constraints.
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Postby Monker » Fri May 23, 2008 10:34 am

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Monker wrote:And, the sun is HOTTER? Hotter then what? You actually believe the sun is going to gain heat in as little as 100yrs? 100yrs is NOTHING in the life of a star. That is just riduculous and ill informed thinking...as ridiculous as one of those quotes stating, "the sun AND STARS" affect the Earth's climate more then anything else. The moon affects our climate moer then some star.


Tell the scientists who have said this that it is "ridiculous and ill informed thinking".

http://partners.nytimes.com/library/nat ... i-sun.html

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~kaisler/arti ... ating.html

Some also attribute similar temperature changes on Mars to the same thing, so it's not all a bunch of idiots who are saying this. Please think before you speak.


Read your own articles:

However, more research is necessary before we can say whether this small rise in the temperature of the Sun will continue, or will have any effect on us. Gray, for one, is interested in obtaining data over a longer time to see if this rise continues or flattens out in the long run.

and:

the temperature of the sun is steadily increasing by 0.014 degrees/yr.

That is 1.5 degrees over 100yrs...and that is the SUN's temp, not what is reaching Earth. That s NOTHING. These articles are more of your BS evidence of nothing.
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Postby FishinMagician » Fri May 23, 2008 11:37 am

Monker wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Monker wrote:And, the sun is HOTTER? Hotter then what? You actually believe the sun is going to gain heat in as little as 100yrs? 100yrs is NOTHING in the life of a star. That is just riduculous and ill informed thinking...as ridiculous as one of those quotes stating, "the sun AND STARS" affect the Earth's climate more then anything else. The moon affects our climate moer then some star.


Tell the scientists who have said this that it is "ridiculous and ill informed thinking".

http://partners.nytimes.com/library/nat ... i-sun.html

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~kaisler/arti ... ating.html

Some also attribute similar temperature changes on Mars to the same thing, so it's not all a bunch of idiots who are saying this. Please think before you speak.


Read your own articles:

However, more research is necessary before we can say whether this small rise in the temperature of the Sun will continue, or will have any effect on us. Gray, for one, is interested in obtaining data over a longer time to see if this rise continues or flattens out in the long run.

and:

the temperature of the sun is steadily increasing by 0.014 degrees/yr.

That is 1.5 degrees over 100yrs...and that is the SUN's temp, not what is reaching Earth. That s NOTHING. These articles are more of your BS evidence of nothing.


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