Whole CD posted for your listening pleasure

[ProgRocker53]

neal is so wonderful to listen to. i could listen to neal and deen all night long. don't like the 'new' fith at all. overall it is decent... just feels flat or something, can't explain it. uninspired maybe.

Lu, its missing the one factor that gave it soul.....Steve Perry's voice and writing.. but I really liked the album alot.

Augeri's voice was PLENTY soulful on the original FITH. (The original FITH is one of my top ten favorite Journey songs too)

Can't comment on the new version as somehow I've abstained from listening to it so far.

[Rip Rokken]

Can't comment on the new version as somehow I've abstained from listening to it so far.

It's not good to bottle up your desire for new music, Proggie! In my experience, if you hold out too long, you will go on a spending spree once you finally make it to the music store. I think the saying goes, "Abstinence makes the heart go squander!"

[BobbyinTN]

Can't comment on the new version as somehow I've abstained from listening to it so far.

It's not good to bottle up your desire for new music, Proggie! In my experience, if you hold out too long, you will go on a spending spree once you finally make it to the music store. I think the saying goes, "Abstinence makes the heart go squander!"

GOT IT! Thanks Rip.

I fuckin' love this album. Yes, I said ALBUM! LOL

Sounds like Journey to me.

[Triple S]

CD sounds great... I would rather have just had the Augeri FITH remastered so it didn't sound like a tin can, but oh well. I'm going to get a hair cut and see if Walmart stocked it here accidentally

You get your hair cut at Walmart???

j/k - I actually used to get perms there years ago

[Ehwmatt]

CD sounds great... I would rather have just had the Augeri FITH remastered so it didn't sound like a tin can, but oh well. I'm going to get a hair cut and see if Walmart stocked it here accidentally

You get your hair cut at Walmart???

j/k - I actually used to get perms there years ago

Fuck no... did that once and ended up looking like Lloyd Christmas from Dumb & Dumber. But the Walmart was close to my barber, bastards didn't have it though.

[G.I.Jim]

CD sounds great... I would rather have just had the Augeri FITH remastered so it didn't sound like a tin can, but oh well. I'm going to get a hair cut and see if Walmart stocked it here accidentally

You get your hair cut at Walmart???

j/k - I actually used to get perms there years ago

Fuck no... did that once and ended up looking like Lloyd Christmas from Dumb & Dumber. But the Walmart was close to my barber, bastards didn't have it though.

What's wrond with THAT do??? Should I change mine now then?

[Lula]

neal is so wonderful to listen to. i could listen to neal and deen all night long. don't like the 'new' fith at all. overall it is decent... just feels flat or something, can't explain it. uninspired maybe.

Lu, its missing the one factor that gave it soul.....Steve Perry's voice and writing.. but I really liked the album alot.

Augeri's voice was PLENTY soulful on the original FITH. (The original FITH is one of my top ten favorite Journey songs too)

Can't comment on the new version as somehow I've abstained from listening to it so far.

my comment about being decent is for the album as a whole. as far as fith- i really like the original. i like steve augeri. the redo is just bad in my opinion and the album just falls flat. i'm glad many dig it tho. i wish the band nothing but good things.

[Ehwmatt]

CD sounds great... I would rather have just had the Augeri FITH remastered so it didn't sound like a tin can, but oh well. I'm going to get a hair cut and see if Walmart stocked it here accidentally

You get your hair cut at Walmart???

j/k - I actually used to get perms there years ago

Fuck no... did that once and ended up looking like Lloyd Christmas from Dumb & Dumber. But the Walmart was close to my barber, bastards didn't have it though.

What's wrond with THAT do??? Should I change mine now then?

Hey Jim, different strokes for different folks [/cliche]

[Barb]

I am really loving this album! I like the instruments on FITH, but Arnel is lacking emotion on this one, IMO. Everything else is freaking fantastic! I love Jonathan's little piano in the beginning of Like a Sunshower. I can't believe Neal wrote that song. It is so beautiful! I love that side of him.

Neal's guitar playing throughout is brilliant -- moreso than usual. I can't believe how anti Journey I was just a few months ago.

[Centaure]

The CD is a lot stronger than I thought it would be, but re-recording FITH instead of adding another NEW song still bothers me a lot.

Apparently redoing FITH was KS's idea. He loved the song, but thought it could be better. JC talks about it on the Rockline interview.

That's fine, I just wish they didn't. I think the Augeri version is so much better and Arnel's version just sounds off to me. Arnel holds notes longer in certain places and it throws me off.

Me too, I prefer the Augeri version. Shirley should have left all the intro and start with the guitar. The end is also boring.

The song that impressed me the most is What I Need. This one is very theatrical.

[Barb]

In the beginning of What I Needed Arnel sounds like Michael Jackson.

[Red13JoePa]

Augeri's FITH vocal was better than Pineda's.

[G.I.Jim]

CD sounds great... I would rather have just had the Augeri FITH remastered so it didn't sound like a tin can, but oh well. I'm going to get a hair cut and see if Walmart stocked it here accidentally

You get your hair cut at Walmart???

j/k - I actually used to get perms there years ago

Fuck no... did that once and ended up looking like Lloyd Christmas from Dumb & Dumber. But the Walmart was close to my barber, bastards didn't have it though.

What's wrond with THAT do??? Should I change mine now then?

Hey Jim, different strokes for different folks [/cliche]

I seriously hope nobody was taking me seriously!??? I actually have really short hair (damn Army regulations! ).

[Barb]

I can totally hear "What it takes to win" playing in the background of some sports montage.

[AlteredDNA]

I can totally hear "What it takes to win" playing in the background of some sports montage.

2008 Olympics...

[Rip Rokken]

I can totally hear "What it takes to win" playing in the background of some sports montage.

Or on a Rocky soundtrack!

[G.I.Jim]

They've pulled the link off of the website! SHIT!!!! Now I guess we'll have to find it elsewhere!

[JH'sTXfan]

They've pulled the link off of the website! SHIT!!!! Now I guess we'll have to find it elsewhere!

That's like closing the barn door after the horses got out.

[AlteredDNA]

They've pulled the link off of the website! SHIT!!!! Now I guess we'll have to find it elsewhere!

That's like closing the barn door after the horses got out.

And I'm fairly certain some of those horses can still be found running loose around here...

[Liam]

Just so ya know...it was ripped off the site.

[G.I.Jim]

Just so ya know...it was ripped off the site.

Who would do such a thing???

[STORY_TELLER]

I'm listening to it, but I'm not swiping it. Stealing is stealing now matter how you justify it.

That being said, i'm going to buy the full package, not download MP3's.

I'll use the GH's and DVD as chew toys for the dog, because I could care less about Arnel singing Perry's songs. Give me a concert DVD of Revelation material and I'll add it to the collection, but the only DVD's I'm interested in of GH's songs are from the Journey vaults during their heyday with Perry.

Some surprises for me here. The songs I expected to love I don't and some songs I expected to hate I don't. Many have that arrival/bad english vibe unfortunately. As a whole, first impression is Revelation is Arrival 2.0 with a better singer. Not terribly surprised considering Neal and Jon wrote and recorded the instrumentals prior to Arnel even joining the band. Will he be involved and affect their future writing? Time will tell. I probably need to sit and live with the songs more to be fair.

My favorites so far:

Sunshower
Change for the Better
What I Needed

Still, my opinion is that this is Journey's best album in the post Perry era. The difference is, when Perry was in the creative mix, the songs had a sense of cinema and the structure of the songs were stronger. Seems like Cain tends to lose it when he gets to the chorus on a great deal of his songs. Great build up, then falls short and sometimes turns cheesy.

The boys need a song craftsman to shape, focus and simplify if they want to match the bar they set with Perry. My suggestion: They should call Hugo in as a songwriter (not singer). He understands Perry's heyday song writing and melody formula like no one else. I'm expecting the Ramos/Hugo project will out-Journey Revelation on a lot of levels.

Just my 2 cents

[G.I.Jim]

I'm listening to it, but I'm not swiping it. Stealing is stealing now matter how you justify it.

That being said, i'm going to buy the full package, not download MP3's.

I'll use the GH's and DVD as chew toys for the dog, because I could care less about Arnel singing Perry's songs. Give me a concert DVD of Revelation material and I'll add it to the collection, but the only DVD's I'm interested in of GH's songs are from the Journey vaults during their heyday with Perry.

Some surprises for me here. The songs I expected to love I don't and some songs I expected to hate I don't. Many have that arrival/bad english vibe unfortunately. As a whole, first impression is Revelation is Arrival 2.0 with a better singer. Not terribly surprised considering Neal and Jon wrote and recorded the instrumentals prior to Arnel even joining the band. Will he be involved and affect their future writing? Time will tell. I probably need to sit and live with the songs more to be fair.

My favorites so far:

Sunshower
Change for the Better
What I Needed

Still, my opinion is that this is Journey's best album in the post Perry era. The difference is, when Perry was in the creative mix, the songs had a sense of cinema and the structure of the songs were stronger. Seems like Cain tends to lose it when he gets to the chorus on a great deal of his songs. Great build up, then falls short and sometimes turns cheesy.

The boys need a song craftsman to shape, focus and simplify if they want to match the bar they set with Perry. My suggestion: They should call Hugo in as a songwriter (not singer). He understands Perry's heyday song writing and melody formula like no one else. I'm expecting the Ramos/Hugo project will out-Journey Revelation on a lot of levels.

Just my 2 cents

Where are you hearing these songs?

[Rip Rokken]

I'm listening to it, but I'm not swiping it. Stealing is stealing now matter how you justify it.

I'm exactly the same -- I believe in supporting the artist and the industry, so if I'm intending to buy a disc, I buy the full package (and sometimes multiple copies to give away if it's something I'm really excited about). Plus, I want the artwork, inserts, etc. But I will definitely download and preview what I can before release date any chance I get... LOL! The only odd side-effect is that sometimes I'm already winding down on listening to a disc by the time it hits the shelves, and so the new rush might be gone. But that's ok... being a hardcore fan is hard work, sometimes.

[Liam]

Just so ya know...it was ripped off the site.

Who would do such a thing???

I'm guessing whomever runs the site.

[annie89509]

After SA got shit-canned, I started listening to his 3 records more. His singing grew on me and I like FITH a lot (along with Beyond the Clouds). That really is a great Journey song, so I guess they decided to give it another go-around.

Here are my $.02 after just 1 full listen of this new cd:
1) People say Generations had lousy sound production, but SA did a better job than Arnel with FITH. Lots of emotion, which gave this song the Journey signature sound. Arnel fell short .... and, yes, flat.
2) I didn't hear any Perryisms, which I'm glad. Arnel should stand on his own.
3) This record sounds like Arrival. (after just 1 listen, maybe I'll change my mind later)
4) None of the songs "grab" me, except for the 1st, NWA. Journey always has the knack for putting the "catchy-ist" track first. Maybe this record will grow on me, like the SA ones. I'm sure it's no skin off anybody's back either way.

[mikemarrs]

crap i was gonna listen but is now no longer available for PREVIEW BY REQUEST OF THE ARTIST'S PROMOTIONAL COMPANY.

[finalfight]

I'm listening to it, but I'm not swiping it. Stealing is stealing now matter how you justify it.

That being said, i'm going to buy the full package, not download MP3's.

I'll use the GH's and DVD as chew toys for the dog, because I could care less about Arnel singing Perry's songs. Give me a concert DVD of Revelation material and I'll add it to the collection, but the only DVD's I'm interested in of GH's songs are from the Journey vaults during their heyday with Perry.

Some surprises for me here. The songs I expected to love I don't and some songs I expected to hate I don't. Many have that arrival/bad english vibe unfortunately. As a whole, first impression is Revelation is Arrival 2.0 with a better singer. Not terribly surprised considering Neal and Jon wrote and recorded the instrumentals prior to Arnel even joining the band. Will he be involved and affect their future writing? Time will tell. I probably need to sit and live with the songs more to be fair.

My favorites so far:

Sunshower
Change for the Better
What I Needed

Still, my opinion is that this is Journey's best album in the post Perry era. The difference is, when Perry was in the creative mix, the songs had a sense of cinema and the structure of the songs were stronger. Seems like Cain tends to lose it when he gets to the chorus on a great deal of his songs. Great build up, then falls short and sometimes turns cheesy.

The boys need a song craftsman to shape, focus and simplify if they want to match the bar they set with Perry. My suggestion: They should call Hugo in as a songwriter (not singer). He understands Perry's heyday song writing and melody formula like no one else. I'm expecting the Ramos/Hugo project will out-Journey Revelation on a lot of levels.

Just my 2 cents

The DVD will contain a couple Revelation tracks. Surely its worth keeping for those alone.

My current faves are -

Never Walk Away (Can't wait to hear Jeremey's take)
Where Did I Lose Your Love
Faith in the Heartland

[stevew2]

Augeri's FITH vocal was better than Pineda's.

I agree by far. They "frigafried" Arnels voice and the song doesnt have the drive it used to. I wish they would have shortened it by killing the second part of the song I never thought it fit, it drags the song down. should have put good strong ending to it.I like alot the other stuff I heard. I dont hear Arnel improvising to well,I think thats where to languge thing comes in. I was surprised though ,it was better than I thought it would be

[Centaure]

1) People say Generations had lousy sound production, but SA did a better job than Arnel with FITH. Lots of emotion, which gave this song the Journey signature sound. Arnel fell short .... and, yes, flat.

Yes! Shirley wanted to "fix" that song... well he did worse imo ! The song was already almost perfect. The guitars sound is not that good, but Shirley did not fix that at all, imo. And what the hell is going on at 3:50 ? Why did they cut right at the chorus ? It does not work.

It also shows that Augeri was not an average singer.

In my book, Shirley has always been a better sound mixer than a producer. Any Dream Theater fans know it!