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Postby Barb » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:51 am

I think the reason they put Faith in the Heartland on there is because it's called "Faith in the Heartland" and they're selling it in Wal-Mart.
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Postby Since 78 » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:58 am

stevew2 wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Augeri's FITH vocal was better than Pineda's.
I agree by far. They "frigafried" Arnels voice and the song doesnt have the drive it used to. I wish they would have shortened it by killing the second part of the song I never thought it fit, it drags the song down. should have put good strong ending to it.I like alot the other stuff I heard. I dont hear Arnel improvising to well,I think thats where to languge thing comes in. I was surprised though ,it was better than I thought it would be


Don't quote me on this :wink: But I actually agree with you. This is one of my favorite Augeri songs. The re-make is OK, but IMO it couldn't be done better and should have been left alone.
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Postby Penguinpc » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:00 am

I love the new album. I will be buying a copy on Tuesday unless I can find it at a Wal-Mart this weekend.
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Postby stevew2 » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:02 am

Since 78 wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Augeri's FITH vocal was better than Pineda's.
I agree by far. They "frigafried" Arnels voice and the song doesnt have the drive it used to. I wish they would have shortened it by killing the second part of the song I never thought it fit, it drags the song down. should have put good strong ending to it.I like alot the other stuff I heard. I dont hear Arnel improvising to well,I think thats where to languge thing comes in. I was surprised though ,it was better than I thought it would be


Don't quote me on this :wink: But I actually agree with you. This is one of my favorite Augeri songs. The re-make is OK, but IMO it couldn't be done better and should have been left alone.
We agree on something ??/ amazing. It would been cool if they put Augeris version on there.That confuse the hell out of everyone. Some people would have a nervous breakdown
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:03 am

stevew2 wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Augeri's FITH vocal was better than Pineda's.
I agree by far. They "frigafried" Arnels voice and the song doesnt have the drive it used to. I wish they would have shortened it by killing the second part of the song I never thought it fit, it drags the song down. should have put good strong ending to it.I like alot the other stuff I heard. I dont hear Arnel improvising to well,I think thats where to languge thing comes in. I was surprised though ,it was better than I thought it would be


Don't quote me on this :wink: But I actually agree with you. This is one of my favorite Augeri songs. The re-make is OK, but IMO it couldn't be done better and should have been left alone.
We agree on something ??/ amazing. It would been cool if they put Augeris version on there.That confuse the hell out of everyone. Some people would have a nervous breakdown


Augeri's version is the tits dude.
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Postby finalfight » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:05 am

stevew2 wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Augeri's FITH vocal was better than Pineda's.
I agree by far. They "frigafried" Arnels voice and the song doesnt have the drive it used to. I wish they would have shortened it by killing the second part of the song I never thought it fit, it drags the song down. should have put good strong ending to it.I like alot the other stuff I heard. I dont hear Arnel improvising to well,I think thats where to languge thing comes in. I was surprised though ,it was better than I thought it would be


Don't quote me on this :wink: But I actually agree with you. This is one of my favorite Augeri songs. The re-make is OK, but IMO it couldn't be done better and should have been left alone.
We agree on something ??/ amazing. It would been cool if they put Augeris version on there.That confuse the hell out of everyone. Some people would have a nervous breakdown


Not too mention those who would think their audio equipment suddenly went on the blink as the crisp sounding production on the CD suddenly turned to mush!
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Postby stevew2 » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:05 am

I like tits do you progg?
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:08 am

stevew2 wrote:I like tits do you progg?


Yes siiiiir. Who doesn't, really?
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Postby stevew2 » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:09 am

Small and perky, Big and floppy, they re all good
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Postby G.I.Jim » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:51 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:
stevew2 wrote:I like tits do you progg?


Yes siiiiir. Who doesn't, really?


Michael Jackson, Elton John, Richard Simmons, Andrew.......Need I continue??? :lol:
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:52 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:
stevew2 wrote:I like tits do you progg?


Yes siiiiir. Who doesn't, really?


Michael Jackson, Elton John, Richard Simmons, Andrew.......Need I continue??? :lol:


LOL!!

Hey you forgot Matthew. :wink:
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Postby Schon Rules All » Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:02 am

Jeremey wrote:Arnel sounds like he is channeling Augeri on "Where Did I Lose Your Love." This was an Arrival demo, and it caught me off guard how much he sounded like the original Augeri track.


That is the first thing that came to my mind when I heard that... And I had no idea when I heard it that it was meant for Arrival. Really used alot of Augeri's signature sounds on that one.
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Postby The Fly » Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:04 am

Schon Rules All wrote:
Jeremey wrote:Arnel sounds like he is channeling Augeri on "Where Did I Lose Your Love." This was an Arrival demo, and it caught me off guard how much he sounded like the original Augeri track.


That is the first thing that came to my mind when I heard that... And I had no idea when I heard it that it was meant for Arrival. Really used alot of Augeri's signature sounds on that one.


Is Augeri a Co-Writer on that one? Anyone know?
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Postby RocknRoll » Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:11 am

The Fly wrote:
Schon Rules All wrote:
Jeremey wrote:Arnel sounds like he is channeling Augeri on "Where Did I Lose Your Love." This was an Arrival demo, and it caught me off guard how much he sounded like the original Augeri track.


That is the first thing that came to my mind when I heard that... And I had no idea when I heard it that it was meant for Arrival. Really used alot of Augeri's signature sounds on that one.


Is Augeri a Co-Writer on that one? Anyone know?


Yes, nice for him. :D
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Postby venomnation » Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:11 am

IF YOU ARE HERE LOOKING TO HEAR THE NEW JOURNEY CD "REVELATION" IT IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE FOR PREVIEW BY REQUEST OF THE ARTIST'S PROMOTIONAL COMPANY.

that's what that page says.
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Postby The Fly » Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:17 am

RocknRoll wrote:
The Fly wrote:
Schon Rules All wrote:
Jeremey wrote:Arnel sounds like he is channeling Augeri on "Where Did I Lose Your Love." This was an Arrival demo, and it caught me off guard how much he sounded like the original Augeri track.


That is the first thing that came to my mind when I heard that... And I had no idea when I heard it that it was meant for Arrival. Really used alot of Augeri's signature sounds on that one.


Is Augeri a Co-Writer on that one? Anyone know?


Yes, nice for him. :D


Indeed!
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Postby BobbyinTN » Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:12 pm

ProgRocker53 wrote:
stevew2 wrote:I like tits do you progg?


Yes siiiiir. Who doesn't, really?


Yeah? Me. Not really a fan of 'em, but I don't judge you guys for lovin' 'em. LOL

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Postby BobbyinTN » Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:14 pm

I'm definitely buying the CD on Tuesday, especially after hearing the "samples" that are no longer available. :wink:

I can NOT get "Like A Sunshower", "What I Needed" and "Where Did I Lose Your Love" out of my head.

I like having the hard copy and the inserts and artwork.
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Postby StoneCold » Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:16 pm

Melissa wrote:I'm waiting till Tuesday, lol.....seriously, the first time I hear it I want it to be loud in my car, that's how I always listen to a cd the first time 8)


Are we the only two left here waiting? I'm gonna blast it at home. The Wal's only 5 minutes away. :)
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Postby Rick » Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:19 pm

StoneCold wrote:
Melissa wrote:I'm waiting till Tuesday, lol.....seriously, the first time I hear it I want it to be loud in my car, that's how I always listen to a cd the first time 8)


Are we the only two left here waiting? I'm gonna blast it at home. The Wal's only 5 minutes away. :)


I sure hope you like it as well as I do. Journey have outdone themselves on this release. They made mention of hoping for a Grammy. Is it that good? I want it to be, but I don't think it's the right kind of record for a Grammy.
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Postby Magwheels » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:54 am

Andrew wrote:
JH'sTXfan wrote:I'm relieved, the whole album rocks out a lot more than I thought it would. :D


Yes it does. Even with the ballads.


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Postby ProgRocker53 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:12 am

StoneCold wrote:
Melissa wrote:I'm waiting till Tuesday, lol.....seriously, the first time I hear it I want it to be loud in my car, that's how I always listen to a cd the first time 8)


Are we the only two left here waiting?


I still haven't listened. :D
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Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:35 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
Melissa wrote:I'm waiting till Tuesday, lol.....seriously, the first time I hear it I want it to be loud in my car, that's how I always listen to a cd the first time 8)


Are we the only two left here waiting?


I still haven't listened. :D


I wish I had you guys' willpower. I've heard the full version of each song just once (I swear 8) ), but the :30 samples on Wal-Mart's website more often. I wanted to wait until I had the CD, but just couldn't.

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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:44 pm

ProgRocker53 wrote:Hey you forgot Matthew. :wink:


hey man.. you know Matthew is a great dude!! very cool cat..

earth to matt!!
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Postby StoneCold » Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:54 pm

Rick wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
Melissa wrote:I'm waiting till Tuesday, lol.....seriously, the first time I hear it I want it to be loud in my car, that's how I always listen to a cd the first time 8)


Are we the only two left here waiting? I'm gonna blast it at home. The Wal's only 5 minutes away. :)


I sure hope you like it as well as I do. Journey have outdone themselves on this release.


Cool, thanks Rick. Based on the G.I. Jim's song poll, they're all getting hits.

I'm surprised as hell they got thru the funk they were in for so long but I don't see Grammy in their future either. They should've won it for WYLAW. That song is still an outright classic.
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Postby Rick » Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:00 pm

StoneCold wrote:
Rick wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
Melissa wrote:I'm waiting till Tuesday, lol.....seriously, the first time I hear it I want it to be loud in my car, that's how I always listen to a cd the first time 8)


Are we the only two left here waiting? I'm gonna blast it at home. The Wal's only 5 minutes away. :)


I sure hope you like it as well as I do. Journey have outdone themselves on this release.


Cool, thanks Rick. Based on the G.I. Jim's song poll, they're all getting hits.

I'm surprised as hell they got thru the funk they were in for so long but I don't see Grammy in their future either. They should've won it for WYLAW. That song is still an outright classic.


The one that I like most so far is the redone Faith In The Heartland. It's got a few differences, and all of them are good ones. I'm really digging Wildest Dream too. Disappointments? Zero. Actually, the lyrics to Like A Sunshower make you want to puke, but if you don't pay attention to that, the song sounds great.
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Postby Andrew » Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:41 pm

My review is done.....all but....

Hope to feature later today.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:48 pm

Rick wrote:The one that I like most so far is the redone Faith In The Heartland. It's got a few differences, and all of them are good ones.


Yes-and-no for me.
Love Arnel's display of Perry-like operatics towards the end, but Augeri hurled himself into that song with reckless abandon.
Some of that raw emotion is missing here.
I also thought the longer 'Generations' version was really something expansive and quite epic.
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Postby Sarah » Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:50 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:The raw emotion is missing here.

Agreed, and I also want to mention that it baffles me how people compare AATY to Faithfully, because it has that same problem.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:00 pm

Sarah wrote:Agreed, and I also want to mention that it baffles me how people compare AATY to Faithfully, because it has that same problem.


Well, it goes without saying that not every song can be the next 'Faithfully.'
For whatever reason (maybe the slowed tempo?), I find Arnel connects more with the ballad material.
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