Neal...ask yourself this question please.

[donnaplease]

Perry said these SONGS are the bands Children.
... suppose parents have a child that dies. Then they have another one.
Do they name the second child the same as the first, and try to pretend that the first one never existed? Of course not.

Jeez, DonnaP...
I was pretty freaked out by the whole idea of the WalMart re-dos,
and by how they eventually butchered DSB in particular, but ....C'mon! (Arnel voice, heheh)
that's some stretch you've got going on there.
I don't think they're trying to erase the original cuts.

Cheers,
wech

Why else do them? The remasters were already done, you can't improve on what is already considered perfection by most of the Journey-loving community. This was not a concept that came along since they discovered Arnel, nor was it a Wal-Mart only thing. This idea was floating around back in late '06/early '07 with JSS. Frankly, even though I loved what JSS brought to Journey, and thought he would add a new spin to the classics, I was against him doing this with them too.

IMO Neal would love nothing more than to erase Steve Perry from the history of the band any way he could. It's just another way to say "fuck him".

[Since 78]

Perry said these SONGS are the bands Children.
... suppose parents have a child that dies. Then they have another one.
Do they name the second child the same as the first, and try to pretend that the first one never existed? Of course not.

Jeez, DonnaP...
I was pretty freaked out by the whole idea of the WalMart re-dos,
and by how they eventually butchered DSB in particular, but ....C'mon! (Arnel voice, heheh)
that's some stretch you've got going on there.
I don't think they're trying to erase the original cuts.

Cheers,
wech

Why else do them? The remasters were already done, you can't improve on what is already considered perfection by most of the Journey-loving community. This was not a concept that came along since they discovered Arnel, nor was it a Wal-Mart only thing. This idea was floating around back in late '06/early '07 with JSS. Frankly, even though I loved what JSS brought to Journey, and thought he would add a new spin to the classics, I was against him doing this with them too.

IMO Neal would love nothing more than to erase Steve Perry from the history of the band any way he could. It's just another way to say "fuck him".

Its been made pretty clear in the interviews that Wal-Mart insisted on the Re-Records as part of the deal. Someone correct me if Im wrong.

[donnaplease]

Perry said these SONGS are the bands Children.
... suppose parents have a child that dies. Then they have another one.
Do they name the second child the same as the first, and try to pretend that the first one never existed? Of course not.

Jeez, DonnaP...
I was pretty freaked out by the whole idea of the WalMart re-dos,
and by how they eventually butchered DSB in particular, but ....C'mon! (Arnel voice, heheh)
that's some stretch you've got going on there.
I don't think they're trying to erase the original cuts.

Cheers,
wech

Why else do them? The remasters were already done, you can't improve on what is already considered perfection by most of the Journey-loving community. This was not a concept that came along since they discovered Arnel, nor was it a Wal-Mart only thing. This idea was floating around back in late '06/early '07 with JSS. Frankly, even though I loved what JSS brought to Journey, and thought he would add a new spin to the classics, I was against him doing this with them too.

IMO Neal would love nothing more than to erase Steve Perry from the history of the band any way he could. It's just another way to say "fuck him".

Its been made pretty clear in the interviews that Wal-Mart insisted on the Re-Records as part of the deal. Someone correct me if Im wrong.

Again, there was discussion about doing these long before Arnel or the Wal-Mart deal existed. There was also some sort of expiration of an agreement that allowed them to do it without obtaining Steve Perry's permission first.

[ohsherrie]

IMO Neal would love nothing more than to erase Steve Perry from the history of the band any way he could. It's just another way to say "fuck him".

Yep, you're right Donna. I'd pity Neal for having his talent so completely overshadowed for all of Journey's heyday if he hadn't destroyed my favorite band in his effort to get a little spotlight. And they have most absolutely been trying to re-record the classics ever since 1997. An agreement prevented them for a while but it has expired.

[Since 78]

Perry said these SONGS are the bands Children.
... suppose parents have a child that dies. Then they have another one.
Do they name the second child the same as the first, and try to pretend that the first one never existed? Of course not.

Jeez, DonnaP...
I was pretty freaked out by the whole idea of the WalMart re-dos,
and by how they eventually butchered DSB in particular, but ....C'mon! (Arnel voice, heheh)
that's some stretch you've got going on there.
I don't think they're trying to erase the original cuts.

Cheers,
wech

Why else do them? The remasters were already done, you can't improve on what is already considered perfection by most of the Journey-loving community. This was not a concept that came along since they discovered Arnel, nor was it a Wal-Mart only thing. This idea was floating around back in late '06/early '07 with JSS. Frankly, even though I loved what JSS brought to Journey, and thought he would add a new spin to the classics, I was against him doing this with them too.

IMO Neal would love nothing more than to erase Steve Perry from the history of the band any way he could. It's just another way to say "fuck him".

Its been made pretty clear in the interviews that Wal-Mart insisted on the Re-Records as part of the deal. Someone correct me if Im wrong.

Again, there was discussion about doing these long before Arnel or the Wal-Mart deal existed. There was also some sort of expiration of an agreement that allowed them to do it without obtaining Steve Perry's permission first.

Well even if it is Neals intention to do that. As you stated above no one can erase Steve Perry from the minds of true fans. To me the Re-records are just cool to hear. I have JSS doing Send her my love (Before he was with Journey) Mariah Carey, Open arms- Which is Great by the way Among others. But nothing can replace the original.

[donnaplease]

IMO Neal would love nothing more than to erase Steve Perry from the history of the band any way he could. It's just another way to say "fuck him".

Yep, you're right Donna. I'd pity Neal for having his talent so completely overshadowed for all of Journey's heyday if he hadn't destroyed my favorite band in his effort to get a little spotlight. And they have most absolutely been trying to re-record the classics ever since 1997. An agreement prevented them for a while but it has expired.

Have any other bands done this? Re-recorded an entire 'greatest hits' album with a new singer, I mean. I can't think of any band that has, but there are certainly more knowledgeable folks here than me.

[Saint John]

IMO Neal would love nothing more than to erase Steve Perry from the history of the band any way he could. It's just another way to say "fuck him".

Yep, you're right Donna. I'd pity Neal for having his talent so completely overshadowed for all of Journey's heyday if he hadn't destroyed my favorite band in his effort to get a little spotlight. And they have most absolutely been trying to re-record the classics ever since 1997. An agreement prevented them for a while but it has expired.

Have any other bands done this? Re-recorded an entire 'greatest hits' album with a new singer, I mean. I can't think of any band that has, but there are certainly more knowledgeable folks here than me.

Journey has always been "ground breaking."

[The_Noble_Cause]

Have any other bands done this? Re-recorded an entire 'greatest hits' album with a new singer, I mean. I can't think of any band that has, but there are certainly more knowledgeable folks here than me.

Yes, I thought Styx did it (tho Froy and Yogi would know better). Another classic band did it as well, KISS maybe?

[ProgRocker53]

IMO Neal would love nothing more than to erase Steve Perry from the history of the band any way he could. It's just another way to say "fuck him".

Yep, you're right Donna. I'd pity Neal for having his talent so completely overshadowed for all of Journey's heyday if he hadn't destroyed my favorite band in his effort to get a little spotlight. And they have most absolutely been trying to re-record the classics ever since 1997. An agreement prevented them for a while but it has expired.

No way Neal was responsible for destroying Journey. No way at all, I'm sorry.

[lights1961]

Q: If you suffered permanent damage to your playing hand through years of use and could no longer play the Journey catalog, how would YOU feel watching Perry, Cain, Valory, etc. pick up with a "sound alike" guitarist and continue on with the name "Journey" and attempt to essentially "erase" your contributions in the eyes of the public? Would it bother you?

That is EXACTLY what Perry has had to deal with and really explains alot of his actions over the years. Not saying he has been a "saint"...no way but, think about it...what would something like that do to you and your psyche? It no doubt has eaten away at SP for years...

Mend the fences.

WAY OFF HERE JOURNEY IS NOT JOURNEY WITH OUT NEAL---its HIS BAND PERIOD. OH AND PERRY DID IT ALREADY...

[Rick]

IMO Neal would love nothing more than to erase Steve Perry from the history of the band any way he could. It's just another way to say "fuck him".

Yep, you're right Donna. I'd pity Neal for having his talent so completely overshadowed for all of Journey's heyday if he hadn't destroyed my favorite band in his effort to get a little spotlight. And they have most absolutely been trying to re-record the classics ever since 1997. An agreement prevented them for a while but it has expired.

No way Neal was responsible for destroying Journey. No way at all, I'm sorry.

Nobody is responsible because Journey is not destroyed. They're just about to start a tour where I'll bet every show sells out or damn near does. They've just made an album that, at least to my ears, is one damn fine record. How are they destroyed? Because of letting Perry go? Horseshit. They waited on him from '81 to '86, then again from '86 to '96 where right off the bat, they get schtupped again. I'm not blaming Perry at all, he had his reasons. But I'm also not blaming Journey for deciding to move on without him. I would love nothing more than to see a Perry fronted Journey, but he can't or won't sing, and somehow that's Neals fault.

[Tomulator]

IMO Neal would love nothing more than to erase Steve Perry from the history of the band any way he could. It's just another way to say "fuck him".

Yep, you're right Donna. I'd pity Neal for having his talent so completely overshadowed for all of Journey's heyday if he hadn't destroyed my favorite band in his effort to get a little spotlight. And they have most absolutely been trying to re-record the classics ever since 1997. An agreement prevented them for a while but it has expired.

Have any other bands done this? Re-recorded an entire 'greatest hits' album with a new singer, I mean. I can't think of any band that has, but there are certainly more knowledgeable folks here than me.

Journey has always been "ground breaking."

More like..."STONE BREAKING"

sucks, imo.

[finalfight]

Looks like some people are going to be missing out on some fine new music then. I hope those wearing blinkers are comfortable as there is likely to be a loooong wait for new material from the elusive Mr P. I would go as far as to say the next time we will hear from him will be around the time of the next Journey album release or big Journey news.

I too would love to hear something new from Steve Perry and by that I mean something different in interviews rather than his old party line as well as possible new material. I enjoyed the last interview immensely but was experiencing deja vu from the moment I started reading.

[brywool]

Why else do them?

As it probably was addressed elsewhere, it was a Walmart stipulation. In order for Journey to release through them (which was really beneficial for the Eagles because record companies can't seem to do shit anymore), they had to recut the songs. Kind of silly for Walmart to demand such a thing, but hey, if it gets new Journey music to me, that's the way it goes.

Just look at it as a bonus and people really should get over it. It's not that big of a deal. Seriously, MANY bands have done "live in the studio" things. Journey did it for a radio show, The Beatles did it for their BBC stuff, Zep did it, Queen did it. Just look at it like that. It's not that big of a deal and people are making this huge deal about it. If you don't like them, don't listen to them... OR just treat them as another version of the same songs. Not that big of a deal peeps. Perry'll get his royalty check and Perry's diehard fans will still play only his versions anyway. The diehard Perry fans that can's see past 1986 won't buy it anyway. Too bad, from what I've heard of the new stuff, it's pretty freaking great.