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by **stevew2** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:45 am

Rhiannon wrote:
stevew2 wrote:you dont just have VHS or BETA ???say it aint so

Nope, I have a DVD player, but my friend is en route to Sam's Club to get me a copy with the DVD... I'll be at her house all evening and won't be able to resist watching it as soon as I have it. ...However, VHS & Betas were the shit.

Im gettin trashed and crankin it uptonight, might get kicked out , Progg is a perv by the way

by **Rhiannon** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:48 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:No sir.. more like "Came on Lady."

You've been jonesing on Friggle Rock so much you're confusing all women for "sirs". This might have something to do with your clam shortage. :lol:

Horny Teen Proggie wrote:I'd swash your buckle.

My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard...?

by **ProgRocker53** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:52 am

Rhiannon wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:No sir.. more like "Came on Lady."

You've been jonesing on Friggle Rock so much you're confusing all women for "sirs". This might have something to do with your clam shortage.

Horny Teen Proggie wrote:I'd swash your buckle.

My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard...?

FRIGGLE ROCK LMFAO... and don't you DARE bring up the clam shortage. I've scored as much lately as Perry has released music in the 2000s.

...and you have it wrong girl. Horny TWENTYSOMETHING Proggie now. I'sa big boy. In more ways than one. Ooh, betcha didn't see that one coming. Hehe. I said coming.

....Sphincter.

by **Rhiannon** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:55 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:FRIGGLE ROCK LMFAO... and don't you DARE bring up the clam shortage. I've scored as much lately as Perry has released music in the 2000s.

Fail.

MOMMY WOW! I'M A BIG KID NOW!!! wrote:...and you have it wrong girl. Horny TWENTYSOMETHING Proggie now.

Fixed.

....Sphincter.

Sorry, Lois, my post-sex pee stream got all over the wall. :lol:

by **ProgRocker53** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:59 am

sooooooooo.... (i'm tired of Rhi pwning me)

....my review will be coming (hehe i said coming) whenever I get my stuff (hehe i said stuff) in the mail (hehe i said mail).

It will be surely eloquent and well-written to cover for my disjointed (hehe i said joint) malarkey.

....and I'm surprised Rip hasn't photoshopped my avatar to where I'm showing off a Lightning Strikes Again, rather than a tower of poker chips.

by **Rick** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:21 am

Got my copy of Revelation today. They had it on about 3 shelves plus a semicircular shelf on top. Looks like you could put out 50 copies at a time by the space they had for it. There were about a dozen copies sitting there at 2:30 this afternoon. I took it to the register there in the music department and handed it to the 16 - 18 year old kid behind the counter. He really looked that thing over, as if to say "What the fuck is up with this thing?" By the way the shelves looked and the kid looked, apparently I hadn't been the only one there to get that today. :lol:

My review of Revelation:

by **stevew2** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:42 am

Rick wrote:Got my copy of Revelation today. They had it on about 3 shelves plus a semicircular shelf on top. Looks like you could put out 50 copies at a time by the space they had for it. There were about a dozen copies sitting there at 2:30 this afternoon. I took it to the register there in the music department and handed it to the 16 - 18 year old kid behind the counter. He really looked that thing over, as if to say "What the fuck is up with this thing?" By the way the shelves looked and the kid looked, apparently I hadn't been the only one there to get that today.

My review of Revelation:

I went to get it and there was this 50 sh black lady there and I asked where the new Journey Cd was yes said Ugh?? This other girl workin with her {she had some downs syn} pointed over to might and said Jouyney. i got it and when I walked away the black lady said to her, whats all this stuff today. i got evolution for $5.00, they got in a buch of reissues

by **Gibby** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:46 am

Have listened to everything twice and will watch the dvd tonight. Really outstanding stuff. I really can't complain about anything I've heard and Arnel is flat out amazing. Neal is in a good place folks - you can hear it in his playing and check out his liner notes - the guy writes a fucking book, thanks the fans, and has obviously taken an accounting of his life. Good for him and good for us. Journey does not die as long as Neal is happy and sucking in oxygen.

I would love to see some creative managing with 'what it takes to win'. Great song to be played as an intro for big games on t.v. Somebody get it into the hands of ABC sports execs for the NBA finals.

The re-records are very cool - nice to hear them in updated audio quality with some of Neal's newer licks. Very cool 'concert' ending for wheel in the sky. As a massive Journey fan, I could not be happier with what I bought today.

by **Barb** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:09 am

Random thoughts watching the DVD for the first time... Jon's hands look really old. Neal makes some hilarious guitar faces and one particulaly funny is right in the beginning of NWA. Arnel is delightful to watch. Seriously.. he has this look of awe on his face everytime the audience bursts into applause and he is a fucking phenomenal singer.

by **Journey69** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:16 am

Big J wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Liam wrote:No it's not the best since Frontiers...Arrival is better than this. But I digress...again...personal opinion. Sorry,....wasn't tryin' to jump on ya.

I agree with 7 Wishes...Best since "Frontiers".

Arrival's better, Generations is close, TBF is better too.

Honestly, the new stuff is a lot weaker than I expected. NWA, AATY and a couple other solid tracks. Sunshower's this album's "Butterfly" - every album needs one I guess. Big Disappointment. The instrumental's a waste of time, Turn Down the World Tonight is a little too light, though I like the somber ending note.

I'm very disappointed in the drum sound in the mix - expected more punch. Not Deen's fault.

The redo of FITH is a disgrace and I truly feel badly for SA - he did this so much better and, I'm sorry, IS the better vocalist. Arnel's very good, and perhaps fits the "dirty dozen" better (though that remains to be seen) - maybe he's more "legacy sound." But he's trying to wail like Perry on the new stuff, and the "grit" so many are describing sounds like a thin voice straining to me. Noone has the depth of Perry, but Arnel's got less than Augeri in that regard.

I just get the feeling that this is less a rebirth or new era dawning than it is a last gasp and throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. Especially with some recycled material.

As for the GH, whatever. Arnel struggles on the early Perry stuff, does very well with the mid 80's stuff except for SW.

All in all, certainly worth the sticker price but I expected better new stuff. A lot better. Arrival kills this album.

I agree with the bold ! How can anyone listen to Arrival and not hear all era's of Journey? People just hear what they want to. Revelations is good,and certain songs made my spine tingle,but If they would have dropped some of the sap songs off Arrival,it would have been in the same range as Escape and Frontiers.. Arrival was a lot more guitar driven. When I hear the teasers for Arrival I was going crazy. When I heard them for Revelations,I thought a couple were awesome and most were average.. I loved the way Augeri sung the songs he did. I liked how Most of Arrival's songs went in one direction then did a 180. Change for the better seriously made me drop my jaw. Its sounded like a cross between an Infinity and Escape sound. Arrival is hands down better. In fact its one of my favorite Journey albums. Listen to World Gone Wild,that is what Generations and Revelations is sorely lacking.. If Neal was hammered during the making of Arrival,then before they start making the next album,I'm going to buy the man several drinks.. :twisted:

by **RedWingFan** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:20 am

AlteredDNA wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:I'll probably pick this package up at lunch in a couple of hours. If I do, I'm going to leave the re-recordings in the Walmart bag and hang it on the ass end of the mechanical penny horse as it's dookie bag!

Come on, now. If stevew2 is willing to give it a spin (and even admit to liking it a bit), surely you can...

Damn it!!! The one store in the area that doesn't have a mechanical penny horse by the exit!!!! :evil:

by **journeyMusic** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:40 am

Honest opinion on the first listen is that it's a pretty good disc.NWA and WDILYL are my favorites.AATY is a good ballad and WD I think has potential. I have heard a better version of 1 song though.

Not really interested in the re-records.I have a greatest hits for that or better yet, a group of guys from Va.

Overall-I give it a 7

by **Sarah** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:11 am

As usual I seem to prefer the songs everyone else bags on (Sunshower, What I Needed). Happened with Generations and Arrival too. Such is my life.

by **Barb** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:13 am

Sarah wrote:As usual I seem to prefer the songs everyone else bags on (Sunshower, What I Needed). Happened with Generations and Arrival too. Such is my life.

Those are my top 2 favorites too.

by **journeyMusic** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:14 am

journeyMusic wrote:Honest opinion on the first listen is that it's a pretty good disc.NWA and WDILYL are my favorites.AATY is a good ballad and WD I think has potential. I have heard a better version of 1 song though.

Not really interested in the re-records.I have a greatest hits for that or better yet, a group of guys from Va.

Overall-I give it a 7

I'll give props where due--I just watched the DVD and I may have dispensed some man juice on myself after Be Good To Yourself. Neil's hammering of the frets was awesome and Deens ending was sweet!!!!!!!

by **Barb** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:15 am

journeyMusic wrote:
journeyMusic wrote:Honest opinion on the first listen is that it's a pretty good disc.NWA and WDILYL are my favorites.AATY is a good ballad and WD I think has potential. I have heard a better version of 1 song though.

Not really interested in the re-records.I have a greatest hits for that or better yet, a group of guys from Va.

Overall-I give it a 7

I'll give props where due--I just watched the DVD and I may have dispensed some man juice on myself after Be Good To Yourself. Neil's hammering of the frets was awesome and Deens ending was sweet!!!!!!!

Neal has definitely kicked it up a notch!

by **marco17** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:36 am

Have to say that in comparison I am not as much of a Journey fanatic as most on here, but here are some thoughts from someone who really likes Journey, but doesn't consider them my all time favorite band...

First, I am a little biased to Augeri because that's the period that really got me into Journey and the band. I got hooked after hearing "Remember Me."

After reading Andrew's review and hearing some of the teaser clips I was really anticipating picking up this disc, even though a couple months back I wasn't going to waste the money. What I found was that there are probably 3 or 4 really good songs on it, but I was extremely underwhelmed after hearing all the hype. Maybe it is just me, but to me this disc seems very average. Yes, it is a better effort then Generations, but I don't believe it is any stronger than Arrival was, if even equal to it. And, don't get me going on the remake of FITH. Unnecessary and the extra production does nothing for me.

Arnel does sound good, but not spectacular, but I think the band as a whole decided this time around to actually put some effort into the release. I think Cain and Schon's writing is stronger overall than it has been recently, and had it been better during the Augeri era I think they could have produced some better music. But, while Augeri seemed interested in making new music, I think Cain and Schon were beginning to be content with pushing the old material and not spending too much time doing new matieral.

Finally, while decent, I don't see this disc resurrecting Journey, and at this point let's face it, it is about the dirty dozen with a couple new songs mixed in here and there when they are touring. I doubt this will draw in any new fans with the exception of those that Arnel may bring into the fold for various reasons.

by **yulog** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:39 am

WTF is Neal so low in the mix, this cd sounds horrible as far as the guitar is concerned. Its muddy then clear ...this cd is no better then Arrival or Generations as far as production(sounds distorted as soon as you try to turn it up, i tried everything to get the sound to be clearer but the same issues persist .I was worried when i heard the samples that Neal wasnt being used enough, even the solo's are down in the mix.I don't know who's idea it was to do this .........HUGE MISTAKE!!!!

by **Melissa** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:41 am

Gave it all a good listen a few times, haven't checked out the re-records yet, will tomorrow, lol. Change For the Better, After All These Years, Turn Down the World Tonight, all great. Never Walk Away, Wildest Dream, Where Did I Lose Your Love, What It Takes To Win, all good. Faith In the Heartland, it's good, I can hear why the original is preferred, although I like this one too. The Journey is good, minus the opening IMO. For an instrumental I was hoping more for something that would kick my ass like Van Halen's "Baluchitherium" does, but it's good.

The 2 that won't leave my head are Like A Sunshower & What I Needed, both amazing songs, the music in Sunshower is just stuck in my brain.

Arnel's voice is incredible.

by **Aaron** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:27 pm

I finally got the bastard (actually 3

) from Walfart today after three fuckin trips. Damn I hate that store! It finally made the shelves around 5 pm here. I'm making my second pass now so I don't have a good overall vibe yet but here are some initial thoughts:

1. NWA - The song just fuckin rocks, Arnel sounds great
2. Sunshower - Pretty gay and not quite my speed. Drew was right, it's out of place. What strikes me the most about this song is I'd swear Augeri was singing on it. In fact, it sounds like an old clip from Steve A. I can't tell the difference. It's quite shocking actually.
3. CFTB - Song friggin rocks, has a good groove and Arnel sounds good too. The keys have too much of a gay 80's sound but I would expect nothing less from the Princess. They need to replace him with a killer overdriven rhythm guitar. Arnel sounds like Augeri on this track too. I really surprised at this.
4. Just now hitting track four (don't know the title), ah Wildest Dreams. Up beat, good groove, sounds good although Arnel could could stand out a bit. My first thought is Jack Blades and Damn Yankees. I don't know who has writing credits on this but I'd bet my ball sack Blades was involved in it.

More to come ....

by **Since 78** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:08 pm

Ok here goes: First comment as earlier in the thread is, Neal really rocks this all the way through and Deen Great work man!!!! Actually cudos to all the guys!!! And Jeremy for your contributions. As for the songs: To me there isn't a skip track on the entire disc. Sunshower for me is what a lot of people have said, I thought it would be one of my favorites but IMO the weakest track. Best Rocker: Change for the better, Neals Rips on this song Freakin Awesome!!! Arrival Fans should like Wildest Dreams, I could hear SA all over this. FITH as stated before, I prefer the original But I like it and the redone version could have come off of TBF. Best ballad: Turn Down the World Tonight, Love Cain on this one!! The Journey: I could listen to Neal play all night so I already knew I would like it. Award for best song at this point goes to Change for the Better.

On to the Re-Records: First thought was that this is better than Steve Perry !!! J/K J/K :wink:

Actually they are what I thought they would be, interesting and fun. I think even a casual fan would figure out that this isn't Steve after a few minutes. Doesn't come close to erasing The Voice.

Over all I really do think this is the most solid and complete Journey album since Frontiers and Arnel was definitely a great choice. Congratulations Journey on a great effort.

by **7 Wishes** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:42 pm

This is just an amazing, unbelievable record.

I'm not afraid to admit that "After All These Years" made me cry...Neal's tone is unbelievable. This is by far the best Cain solo-penned song since "Faithfully". So much emotion.

And I'm so proud of our bud Jeremey's part in writing the best Journey song since 1983...

This is how Journey is supposed to sound. It's just a little better than TBF and it blows away ROR.

by **RedWingFan** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:58 pm

Anyone else import this into their itunes yet????
It say's the track names aren't recognized in the database. Anyone else get this?

by **Rick** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:00 pm

RedWingFan wrote:Anyone else import this into their itunes yet????
It say's the track names aren't recognized in the database. Anyone else get this?

Yes. Had to fill it in myself.

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:09 pm

one of the bands wrist watch alarms goes off during Faithfully.. dang that luck...

beep beep..........................................beep beep................

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:17 pm

some one hit a bad note at 1:14 on Wheel .........

.man....jonathon cain looks dang cool holding an axe..... black shirt ... silver slacks.. dressed up... thats my style. .. love it .. JC looks cool with a strat or les paul...

by **DrFU** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:25 pm

larryfromnextdoor wrote: jonathon cain looks dang cool

don't believe I've ever seen those words in that order on MR before...

:lol:

by **Barb** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:26 pm

larryfromnextdoor wrote:some one hit a bad note at 1:14 on Wheel .........

.man....jonathon cain looks dang cool holding an axe..... black shirt ... silver slacks.. dressed up... thats my style. .. love it .. JC looks cool with a strat or les paul...

He's pretty handsome for an almost 60 year old man. His hands look way old though.

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:31 pm

Barb wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:some one hit a bad note at 1:14 on Wheel .........

.man....jonathon cain looks dang cool holding an axe..... black shirt ... silver slacks.. dressed up... thats my style. .. love it .. JC looks cool with a strat or les paul...

He's pretty handsome for an almost 60 year old man. His hands look way old though.

DrFU wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote: jonathon cain looks dang cool

don't believe I've ever seen those words in that order on MR before...

he looks so cool though.. and can write the best songs.. hes one of those guys that looks GREAT with a guitar hanging low.. so much talent too...

i love the second note of OPEN ARMS.. starts out with tension.. then release fast.. a song writers skill he has......

by **DrFU** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:35 pm

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Barb wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:some one hit a bad note at 1:14 on Wheel .........

.man....jonathon cain looks dang cool holding an axe..... black shirt ... silver slacks.. dressed up... thats my style. .. love it .. JC looks cool with a strat or les paul...

He's pretty handsome for an almost 60 year old man. His hands look way old though.

DrFU wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote: jonathon cain looks dang cool

don't believe I've ever seen those words in that order on MR before...

he looks so cool though.. and can write the best songs.. hes one of those guys that looks GREAT with a guitar hanging low.. so much talent too...

Hey, I'm with you on the talent & when I met him in person he was really sweet to me...but his sartorial choices have sucked for decades....aaaargh, those shirts

MR

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