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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:02 am

*sigh*
OK, Your (dis)Honor.

Neal mentioned it when asked in the GQ, since THAT is the one I am being examined on.
In answer to the question he replies "Oh no there's no legal issues...(etc)...I don't talk about how he gets paid like a motherfucker...(etc)...."

In the word "there's" which, as people may or may not know, is a contraction for "there is" Neal is confirming that PRESENTLY, CURRENTLY there is no agreement or "gag order" in effect. He is not speaking of the prior 10 years. Of course we all know that now, we're outside the originally spoken of and much repeated and talked of decade.
I also detect sarcasm and flippancy in his comments, ala "OK, I will not talk about what an A-hole he is."

Then the other guys including Herbie have talked about it in other interviews like Castles Burning, the Dan Stacey ones among others.
Team P will say consider the source(s), I'll retort that I have and believe the source(s).
Why the hell else are we doing this song and dance?
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Postby Jenna » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:07 am

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cyndy! wrote:sj, did sp or one of his lawyers tell you sp initiates gag orders? is it like a one-way gag order? was the GQ interview scripted? did alex pappademas tell you that? who are these "legacy preservers" you speak of?


LOL...You know the answers to the questions you've asked so I see no reason to answer them. I did get a rise out of "one-way gag order" though. :lol: :shock: :twisted: :wink:


Dude, I totally knew you were a faker! :D


Yep. :lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5dqQGQp ... re=related



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Postby Saint John » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:16 am

cyndy! wrote:
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cyndy! wrote:sj, did sp or one of his lawyers tell you sp initiates gag orders? is it like a one-way gag order? was the GQ interview scripted? did alex pappademas tell you that? who are these "legacy preservers" you speak of?


LOL...You know the answers to the questions you've asked so I see no reason to answer them. I did get a rise out of "one-way gag order" though. :lol: :shock: :twisted: :wink:


ok, so what you're trying to say is:
you do not know the details of this gag order
the GQ interview was not scripted
the legacy preservers are the people at sony


Can't we just talk about the "one-way gag order?" :lol: :shock: :twisted: :P
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Postby brywool » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:40 am

Saint John wrote:"one" vitamin B-12 shot...lol. :lol:


you're saying there were more? Do tell...
I've ALWAYS suspected more. Hip degeneration is a symptom of over usage of steroids. When I read the '1 shot' thing in the GQ interview I thought, "hmm, maybe I'm mistaken".

Is there more info?
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Postby Saint John » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:48 am

brywool wrote:
Saint John wrote:"one" vitamin B-12 shot...lol. :lol:


you're saying there were more? Do tell...
I've ALWAYS suspected more. Hip degeneration is a symptom of over usage of steroids. When I read the '1 shot' thing in the GQ interview I thought, "hmm, maybe I'm mistaken".

Is there more info?


Go with your gut instinct on this one. Let common sense be your guide, brother. 8)
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Postby brywool » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:56 am

Saint John wrote:
brywool wrote:
Saint John wrote:"one" vitamin B-12 shot...lol. :lol:


you're saying there were more? Do tell...
I've ALWAYS suspected more. Hip degeneration is a symptom of over usage of steroids. When I read the '1 shot' thing in the GQ interview I thought, "hmm, maybe I'm mistaken".

Is there more info?


Go with your gut instinct on this one. Let common sense be your guide, brother. 8)


figured but wasn't sure.
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Postby frfksakes » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:18 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
In the word "there's" which, as people may or may not know, is a contraction for "there is" Neal is confirming that PRESENTLY, CURRENTLY there is no agreement or "gag order" in effect. He is not speaking of the prior 10 years. Of course we all know that now, we're outside the originally spoken of and much repeated and talked of decade.
I also detect sarcasm and flippancy in his comments, ala "OK, I will not talk about what an A-hole he is."



ok, Bill Clinton.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:22 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:28 am

I was asked and gave a very specific, accurate answer.

I notice there are no denials from the camp, just questions designed to IMPLY denials.
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Postby EightyRock » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:43 am

[quote="brywool"] "Hip degeneration is a symptom of over usage of steroids."
I
Wow, glad you enlightened us. I've got to go phone my Granny who had her hip replaced and tell her she should have laid off those steriods! :shock: :shock: :lol:

Does a possible INHERITED degenerative bone disease ring any bells with you Einsteins? If you've ever read anything about Perry and his Mother's condiiton, you could put two and two together alot faster.
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Postby Tito » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:45 am

FYI:

*Nomota* is an Esperanto word, meaning *yet to be named*.
It's a simple immitation of the fond in the Beijing University, who's
name is Weiminghu[未名湖]. (meaning 'yet-to-be-named'.)
When I visited Beijing, I was quite impressed by the name.... And I found an
Esperanto counterpart after a while, when a group of Espernatists
urged me to have an Esperanto name, so that they can call me easily.
"Nomota" sounds like Japanese name... But it's a very simple and easy-to-understand
Esperanto word.

In fact, the two words *Nomota* and *Weiminghu[未名湖]* have slightly
different nuances. *Nomota* is a composite of three parts of Esperanto words,

* "Nom-" meaning "a name/to name"
* "-ot-" meaning "will be, to be done in the future", and
* "-a" meaning an adjective in Esperanto grammar.

So the exact meaning of *Nomota* is "will-be-named-in-the-future". Do you find
it is too complex?

"Nomota" isn't a frequently used word in Esperanto, but for any average Esperantists,
it's very very naturally understandable word anyway. In the language Esperanto,
we use very often this kind of composite words, instantly combined for very instant uses.

Because of that, Esperanto is much more flexible than other langauges.
In English you can say "no-where", "no-body", but how about "no-when"
or "no-who"? "No-whose?", "no-why?".
... In English, these words are "wrong", and you have to find some other ways
of expressing them - "never", "... of none", "by-no-means", etc.

In Esperanto, all of those words are quite naturally composed in some simple
word-compositon rules, and the composite words are spoken and understood
without any hesitation.

Here's an example of simple composition.

ki- root word for questions
ti- pointing some specific objects
i- pointing some unspecified ones

-am suffix for time, => kiam (when), tiam (then), iam (at some unspecified time)
-e suffix for location, => kie (where), tie (there), ie (at some place)
-al suffix for the reasone why => kial (why), tial (for that reason), ial (for some reason)
-el suffix for some methods, ways => kiel (in what way, how), tiel (in that way, in such a way), iel (in some unspecified way, in some way)
-es suffix for possession => kies (whose), ties (of that), ies (belong to someone)

In Esperanto, every word can be combined with some other word,
without exception (as far as in principle).
In some cases, some instantly combined word sounds very funny,
but in most cases the instant composite word is exactly what the
speaker is to express, and the listener can understand that without
any difficulty, although the listener has never experienced that composite word before.
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Postby Rhiannon » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:51 am

Tito wrote:FYI:
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Um. Fucking wow, T. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:53 am

Toto!!!!

You are REALLY starting to Dazzle me with Brilliance......
rather than the Baffling me with Bullshit stuff....
you know that I mentioned before!!!!! :wink:
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Postby Tito » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:14 am

Michigan Girl wrote:Toto!!!!

You are REALLY starting to Dazzle me with Brilliance......
rather than the Baffling me with Bullshit stuff....
you know that I mentioned before!!!!! :wink:


I do NOT bullshit.

I googled nomota. I posted the first sentence before, but I just copied and pasted the whole thing this time. I just read the whole thing myself. That was someone else. I've never been to Bejing. Since, that was not me, but someone else's description that does not count as bullshiting. But the main point is that is what Nomota means, not no more tails.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:17 am

Tito wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:Toto!!!!

You are REALLY starting to Dazzle me with Brilliance......
rather than the Baffling me with Bullshit stuff....
you know that I mentioned before!!!!! :wink:


I do NOT bullshit.


Do you have a temper???


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Postby Michigan Girl » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:27 am

Tito wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:Toto!!!!

You are REALLY starting to Dazzle me with Brilliance......
rather than the Baffling me with Bullshit stuff....
you know that I mentioned before!!!!! :wink:


I do NOT bullshit.

I googled nomota. I posted the first sentence before, but I just copied and pasted the whole thing this time. I just read the whole thing myself. That was someone else. I've never been to Bejing. Since, that was not me, but someone else's description that does not count as bullshiting. But the main point is that is what Nomota means, not no more tails.


I really don't want to like you, but this is pulling at my heartstrings.....!!! :wink:
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Postby Tito » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:43 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
Tito wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:Toto!!!!

You are REALLY starting to Dazzle me with Brilliance......
rather than the Baffling me with Bullshit stuff....
you know that I mentioned before!!!!! :wink:


I do NOT bullshit.

I googled nomota. I posted the first sentence before, but I just copied and pasted the whole thing this time. I just read the whole thing myself. That was someone else. I've never been to Bejing. Since, that was not me, but someone else's description that does not count as bullshiting. But the main point is that is what Nomota means, not no more tails.


I really don't want to like you, but this is pulling at my heartstrings.....!!! :wink:


Once all the Revelation talk dies down, we'll start talking about Soto again. That should make you hate me. :D
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Postby Michigan Girl » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:53 am

Tito wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Tito wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:Toto!!!!

You are REALLY starting to Dazzle me with Brilliance......
rather than the Baffling me with Bullshit stuff....
you know that I mentioned before!!!!! :wink:


I do NOT bullshit.

I googled nomota. I posted the first sentence before, but I just copied and pasted the whole thing this time. I just read the whole thing myself. That was someone else. I've never been to Bejing. Since, that was not me, but someone else's description that does not count as bullshiting. But the main point is that is what Nomota means, not no more tails.


I really don't want to like you, but this is pulling at my heartstrings.....!!! :wink:


Once all the Revelation talk dies down, we'll start talking about Soto again. That should make you hate me. :D


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh, don't worry....every time I see your sig. I KNOW that I could
never REALLY like you!!!! :wink: :D
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Postby brywool » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:58 am

EightyRock wrote:
brywool wrote: "Hip degeneration is a symptom of over usage of steroids."
I
Wow, glad you enlightened us. I've got to go phone my Granny who had her hip replaced and tell her she should have laid off those steriods! :shock: :shock: :lol:

Does a possible INHERITED degenerative bone disease ring any bells with you Einsteins? If you've ever read anything about Perry and his Mother's condiiton, you could put two and two together alot faster.



Not saying it's a fact. Saying I suspected more than one shot. There are other reasons to suspect this as well: His age at the time it happened, The timing of the hip deal, the fact that the guy can no longer use his voice, among other things.
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Postby cyndy! » Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:43 am

Red13JoePa wrote:I was asked and gave a very specific, accurate answer.

I notice there are no denials from the camp, just questions designed to IMPLY denials.

i understand that you've come to your conclusions by piecing together bits of information you've read on the internet. you did not supply the details of said agreement because you do not know them. it's all circumstantial evidence.

i don't post about any agreements because i don't know all the details. i never claimed that i did. i just wanted to get all the info from you & SJ since you guys seem to "know" things & state them as fact.

i guess if sp's lawyers can't be bothered to search the web & deny the "facts" that you & SJ post, then they must be true, ya?
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Postby Saint John » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:02 pm

cyndy! wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:I was asked and gave a very specific, accurate answer.

I notice there are no denials from the camp, just questions designed to IMPLY denials.

i understand that you've come to your conclusions by piecing together bits of information you've read on the internet. you did not supply the details of said agreement because you do not know them. it's all circumstantial evidence.

i don't post about any agreements because i don't know all the details. i never claimed that i did. i just wanted to get all the info from you & SJ since you guys seem to "know" things & state them as fact.

i guess if sp's lawyers can't be bothered to search the web & deny the "facts" that you & SJ post, then they must be true, ya?


The quantum of evidence that constitutes a preponderance cannot be reduced to a simple formula. A preponderance of evidence has been described as just enough evidence to make it more likely than not that the fact the claimant seeks to prove is true. :)
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Postby Since 78 » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:09 pm

Saint John wrote:
cyndy! wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:I was asked and gave a very specific, accurate answer.

I notice there are no denials from the camp, just questions designed to IMPLY denials.

i understand that you've come to your conclusions by piecing together bits of information you've read on the internet. you did not supply the details of said agreement because you do not know them. it's all circumstantial evidence.

i don't post about any agreements because i don't know all the details. i never claimed that i did. i just wanted to get all the info from you & SJ since you guys seem to "know" things & state them as fact.

i guess if sp's lawyers can't be bothered to search the web & deny the "facts" that you & SJ post, then they must be true, ya?


The quantum of evidence that constitutes a preponderance cannot be reduced to a simple formula. A preponderance of evidence has been described as just enough evidence to make it more likely than not that the fact the claimant seeks to prove is true. :)


Wow!!! SJ Esquire!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:10 pm

cyndy! wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:I was asked and gave a very specific, accurate answer.

I notice there are no denials from the camp, just questions designed to IMPLY denials.

i understand that you've come to your conclusions by piecing together bits of information you've read on the internet. you did not supply the details of said agreement because you do not know them. it's all circumstantial evidence.

i don't post about any agreements because i don't know all the details. i never claimed that i did. i just wanted to get all the info from you & SJ since you guys seem to "know" things & state them as fact.

i guess if sp's lawyers can't be bothered to search the web & deny the "facts" that you & SJ post, then they must be true, ya?


:roll:
Mother of Christ.
Are you going to make an accusation and call me a liar because I wasn't actually in the printshop doing the typesetting on perry's legal motions against the band or not?
I'm simply calling a spade a spade based on my beliefs and I think he's the culprit behind 98 % of the crying and gnashing of teeth on his own part and that of his overwraught fanbase.
No insider info here, nor claim thereof, just what's been made public knowledge and the conclusions it led me to.
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Postby Memorex » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:56 pm

Red13JoePa wrote:
cyndy! wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:I was asked and gave a very specific, accurate answer.

I notice there are no denials from the camp, just questions designed to IMPLY denials.

i understand that you've come to your conclusions by piecing together bits of information you've read on the internet. you did not supply the details of said agreement because you do not know them. it's all circumstantial evidence.

i don't post about any agreements because i don't know all the details. i never claimed that i did. i just wanted to get all the info from you & SJ since you guys seem to "know" things & state them as fact.

i guess if sp's lawyers can't be bothered to search the web & deny the "facts" that you & SJ post, then they must be true, ya?


:roll:
Mother of Christ.
Are you going to make an accusation and call me a liar because I wasn't actually in the printshop doing the typesetting on perry's legal motions against the band or not?
I'm simply calling a spade a spade based on my beliefs and I think he's the culprit behind 98 % of the crying and gnashing of teeth on his own part and that of his overwraught fanbase.
No insider info here, nor claim thereof, just what's been made public knowledge and the conclusions it led me to.


The fact is, if we are using common sense here, that Steve Perry and Journey have some agreement in place, most if which is very common between business partners in similar situations. I would not doubt that there are a few things unique to their unique situation, but likely nothing ground breaking. If you think that Steve Perry is an asshole because of some agreement, then you would hate most people in the same situation. You should really stop acting like these things aren't common. Makes you look inexperienced in life.

Are you going to answer my question about Steve Augeri. There is supposedly a gag order on him. So are N & J big assholes like Steve Perry for putting such a common thing in place.

Oh, and by the way, who gives a shit anyway? Does it affect you in some way?
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