OT: Eastwood tells Spike Lee to "shut his face"

[Rip Rokken]

I LOVE IT! Someone in Hollywood with the courage to stick up for historical accuracy and not be bullied around by people like Spike Lee.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,363665,00.html

When Clint moves on to that great frontier in the sky, I'm afraid he'll leave a hole that cannot be filled.

[Babyblue]

Good for Clint

[AlienC]

Spike Lee is so over-rated. and the world's second biggest blowhard.

Notice the Spike Lee camp has been SILENT, in their response.

[texafana]

fk yah...go tell em Clint.

[Rip Rokken]

Spike Lee is so over-rated. and the world's second biggest blowhard.

Notice the Spike Lee camp has been SILENT, in their response.

IMO, history is one of the most precious things we have -- it's the way we theoretically should be able to learn from our mistakes, but of course that rarely happens, and Americans are losing touch with history overall. Still, I have no respect whatsoever for people who try to rewrite history to serve their own agendas, no matter who it is.

[TRAGChick]

Spike Lee is so over-rated. and the world's second biggest blowhard.

Notice the Spike Lee camp has been SILENT, in their response.

Yup....

Spike Lee also tried to SUE - yes, SUE - the "Spike TV" Network for "using his name without his consent..."



http://www.newsnet5.com/entertainment/2 ... etail.html

Spike Lee Sues Cable Channel Over Name Use

Filmmaker Claims 'Spike TV' Refers To Him

POSTED: 8:29 a.m. EDT June 6, 2003

Filmmaker Spike Lee is suing to prevent his name from being used as the name of a cable television channel.

Lee is suing media corporation Viacom because of plans to rename the cable channel TNN "Spike TV.

In papers filed in a New York court Wednesday, Lee said it is "obvious" the proposed name refers to him, and that he's "extremely upset to see my name connected with a network when I had never given my consent to use my name."

A judge told Viacom to explain next Monday why it shouldn't be barred from using the name. TNN said it's confident the court "will reject any legal claims by Mr. Lee to the popular word and name Spike."

Viacom had said previously that it decided to use the name Spike TV to get more men to watch the cable channel.
Lee has directed such films as "Do the Right Thing," "Malcolm X," "Jungle Fever," "He Got Game" and the documentary "4 Little Girls."

Copyright 2003 by NewsNet5.com.

[Rip Rokken]

Spike Lee is so over-rated. and the world's second biggest blowhard.

Notice the Spike Lee camp has been SILENT, in their response.

Yup....

Spike Lee also tried to SUE - yes, SUE - the "Spike TV" Network for "using his name without his consent..."

Spike Lee = part of the problem, instead of the solution.

[frfksakes]

He was way off base on this, and I agree that he is overrated for the most part, but Malcolm X is a great movie - Denzel was fierce, lol.

[StoneCold]

Clint tells Spike to shut his face ... "or he'll shut if for him."

[Rip Rokken]

He was way off base on this, and I agree that he is overrated for the most part, but Malcolm X is a great movie - Denzel was fierce, lol.

I liked that film and actually saw it opening night -- went with a black female co-worker of mine, and I was just about the only white guy in the audience... haha! Watching the reactions to specific portions of the film was quite interesting, and at times, a little uncomfortable.

[finalfight]

Spike Lee is so over-rated. and the world's second biggest blowhard.

Notice the Spike Lee camp has been SILENT, in their response.

Lee's response to Clint's response to Lee's original rant as widely reported on June 6th!

Says Lee:

"First of all, the man is not my father and we're not on a plantation either. He's a great director. He makes his films, I make my films. The thing about it though, I didn't personally attack him. And a comment like 'a guy like that should shut his face' — come on Clint, come on. He sounds like an angry old man right there."

Lee has a proposal for Eastwood — "If he wishes, I could assemble African-American men who fought at Iwo Jima and I'd like him to tell these guys that what they did was insignificant and they did not exist," he said. "I'm not making this up. I know history. I'm a student of history. And I know the history of Hollywood and its omission of the one million African-American men and women who contributed to World War II."

And Lee's response to Eastwood's claim of his historical ignorance — "I never said he should show one of the other guys holding up the flag as black. I said that African-Americans played a significant part in Iwo Jima," he said. "For him to insinuate that I'm rewriting history and have one of the four guys with the flag be black … no one said that. It's just that there's not one black in either film. And because I know my history, that's why I made that observation."

Lee ended the interview saying, "Even though he's trying to have a Dirty Harry flashback, I'm going to take the Obama high road and end it right here. Peace and love."

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Sto ... 524&page=1

Seems like a very reasoned response to me. Funnily enough I actually planned to start watching the re-released Dirty Harry movies tonight as I've never seen them.

[Rip Rokken]

Says Lee:

"First of all, the man is not my father and we're not on a plantation either. He's a great director. He makes his films, I make my films. The thing about it though, I didn't personally attack him. And a comment like 'a guy like that should shut his face' — come on Clint, come on. He sounds like an angry old man right there."

..........

Lee ended the interview saying, "Even though he's trying to have a Dirty Harry flashback, I'm going to take the Obama high road and end it right here. Peace and love."

Seems like a very reasoned response to me.

Look closely how Lee keeps it in the realm of black vs. white, also with the hint of an accusation that Clint is an old racist. Why mention the word "plantation"? He starts his response by trying to frame Eastwood as an old prejudiced white man. He ends it with the hint that a black man like Obama is peaceful and reasoned, while Eastwood is a "Dirty Harry". If Lee wanted to take the peaceful, loving high road approach, he'd refrain from raising the race card in reference to another person's work. Even Obama steers clear of that...

Lee was always the aggressor here -- he floated the notion of racism, and he continued it with this response.

[finalfight]

Says Lee:

"First of all, the man is not my father and we're not on a plantation either. He's a great director. He makes his films, I make my films. The thing about it though, I didn't personally attack him. And a comment like 'a guy like that should shut his face' — come on Clint, come on. He sounds like an angry old man right there."

..........

Lee ended the interview saying, "Even though he's trying to have a Dirty Harry flashback, I'm going to take the Obama high road and end it right here. Peace and love."

Seems like a very reasoned response to me.

Look closely how Lee keeps it in the realm of black vs. white, also with the hint of an accusation that Clint is an old racist. Why mention the word "plantation"? He starts his response by trying to frame Eastwood as an old prejudiced white man. He ends it with the hint that a black man like Obama is peaceful and reasoned, while Eastwood is a "Dirty Harry". If Lee wanted to take the peaceful, loving high road approach, he'd refrain from raising the race card in reference to another person's work. Even Obama steers clear of that...

Lee was always the aggressor here -- he floated the notion of racism, and he continued it with this response.

Although I am sure he was riled up by Lee, Eastwood's response was definitely the most aggressive. However, the more I think about it the more I think Eastwood's interview 'persona' all a bit of a stunt to sell more copies of the newly released Dirty Harry box set and promote new projects. I bet Lee and Eastwood are sharing a beer and patting themselves on the back whilst we speak - or type!

[Rip Rokken]

Hey, Spike!

[finalfight]

Hey, Spike!

Awesome!

[wednesday's child]

I'm not white. I'm not blind, nor inured to racism from whites either.

However, to include blacks among the limited number of key cast members
would inaccurately inflate 'black participation' in the Pacific theater.

I've never heard firsthand tale nor seen photographs of black Americans
fighting in the war here. Why should there be a difference between the
real and the 'reel' records?

My country suffered unimaginably under the Japanese during that war.
American blood remains in the very soil and sands of my country.
Your fathers' sacrifice, to free our fathers and all our generations to come,
is something Filipinos won't ever forget, and anyone trying to reshape that memory
for revisionist, political ends is most profoundly disrespectful.



Spike Lee doesn't even have the capability to MAKE a revisionist film.
all he can muster is, in effect, to criticize the work of another director.
Did he expect that filmmaker to remain silent?
Not just any filmmaker, but Clint Eastwood?


-wech

*Clint's right, too.
His movie is really about those who raised the flag on Mt. Suribachi.
That there weren't any black soldiers present for that, isn't Eastwood's fault.
Lee's 'plantation' comment was simply abhorrent.

[Rip Rokken]

My country suffered unimaginably under the Japanese during that war.
American blood remains in the very soil and sands of my country.
Your fathers' sacrifice, to free our fathers and all our generations to come,
is something Filipinos won't ever forget, and anyone trying to reshape that memory
for revisionist, political ends is most profoundly disrespectful.

What a very nice thing to say, and greatly appreciated, my friend. It's really nice to know some around the world appreciate assistance against outside aggressors, unlike some in France who desecrated the graves of our British soldier allies with the message "Dig up your rubbish, it's contaminating our soil". Here in America, it seems the impression we get most often is that we are hated around the world. It's really nice to hear otherwise. Thank you.

[piecesofeight]

So many people are racist..and don't even know it..or can't admit to it..

[frfksakes]

Totally agree - but it's also true that not everything called racist is racist.

[Red13JoePa]

Hey, Spike.
How about you win an Oscar?

Then win ANOTHER one as Clint did before you go barking up the wrong tree.

Race-baiting hack piece of shit.

Telling Clint how to make a fuckin movie my ass.

[Marabelle]

sounds like 2 directors with differences of opinion. good Lord mr eastwood's wife is a minority. the public might not respect spike lee but i'm sure mr eastwood holds the man in high regard even if they don't agree on certain things.

[RSParker]

i cant stand spike lee!
or his movies

[Eric]

I don't think it was a reasonable response at all......

[brandonx76]

I don't think it was a reasonable response at all......

Spike's or Clint's?

[Rick]

Spike Lee is so over-rated. and the world's second biggest blowhard.

Notice the Spike Lee camp has been SILENT, in their response.

Yup....

Spike Lee also tried to SUE - yes, SUE - the "Spike TV" Network for "using his name without his consent..."



http://www.newsnet5.com/entertainment/2 ... etail.html

Spike Lee Sues Cable Channel Over Name Use

Filmmaker Claims 'Spike TV' Refers To Him

POSTED: 8:29 a.m. EDT June 6, 2003

Filmmaker Spike Lee is suing to prevent his name from being used as the name of a cable television channel.

Lee is suing media corporation Viacom because of plans to rename the cable channel TNN "Spike TV.

In papers filed in a New York court Wednesday, Lee said it is "obvious" the proposed name refers to him, and that he's "extremely upset to see my name connected with a network when I had never given my consent to use my name."

A judge told Viacom to explain next Monday why it shouldn't be barred from using the name. TNN said it's confident the court "will reject any legal claims by Mr. Lee to the popular word and name Spike."

Viacom had said previously that it decided to use the name Spike TV to get more men to watch the cable channel.
Lee has directed such films as "Do the Right Thing," "Malcolm X," "Jungle Fever," "He Got Game" and the documentary "4 Little Girls."

Copyright 2003 by NewsNet5.com.

This guy is out to lunch. By his logic, I should sue someone any time they sell a rick of wood. It's so obvious they're referring to me.

[Rip Rokken]

This guy is out to lunch. By his logic, I should sue someone any time they sell a rick of wood. It's so obvious they're referring to me.

I think you should sue to get credit for the whole Rick Roll phenomenon...

[Rick]

This guy is out to lunch. By his logic, I should sue someone any time they sell a rick of wood. It's so obvious they're referring to me.

I think you should sue to get credit for the whole Rick Roll phenomenon...

Love that sig dude.

[Rip Rokken]

Love that sig dude.

You have to imagine Clint saying it in his Harry Callahan voice... haha!

[brywool]

I LOVE IT! Someone in Hollywood with the courage to stick up for historical accuracy and not be bullied around by people like Spike Lee.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,363665,00.html

When Clint moves on to that great frontier in the sky, I'm afraid he'll leave a hole that cannot be filled.

Spike Lee is a racist ass.

[Rip Rokken]

I noticed this story was ALL OVER the web the other day, and they are just about to discuss it on Hannity & Colmbs. Yes, I hate the show, but I'm at the office late and listening to it on the TV. Will be interesting to hear what they say if Hannity will shut up long enough to let anyone else speak.