The Revelation Chart/Sales Thread

by **Andrew** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:13 pm

Count starts in a few hours. Will post updates and the final week one tally here.

by **maverick218** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:56 pm

You know, I always thought that Wal-Mart didn't release sales figures, but it seems that I'm wrong... Looking forward to the results.

by **Saint John** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:57 pm

110,419 is my guess.

by **DrFU** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:03 am

90,210

Is there a cool prize involved? :lol:

by **amaron** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:04 am

maverick218 wrote:You know, I always thought that Wal-Mart didn't release sales figures, but it seems that I'm wrong... Looking forward to the results.

Wal-Mart doesn't report their sales data to Soundscan, which counts albums sold. The RIAA charts are based on albums shipped.

This is the exact reason I had an issue with TBF being platinum at release. They didn't sell 1,000,000+ albums, they just shipped them.

by **ebake02** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:45 am

I'll guess somewhere around 88,000.

by **lights1961** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:53 am

ebake02 wrote:I'll guess somewhere around 88,000.

Over 88,000 is a good number for the week if that is the case--- 110,00 is wishfull
thinking!!

Nice number, although not a *huge* fan of the new music for whatever reason...I did buy it and
its cool to see Journey charting again. Maybe in time i will grow to like the new music fully!!

Rick

by **Barb** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:55 am

I keep refreshing http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi but nothing there yet!

by **Big J** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:24 am

Did Generations really sell less than 80,000 total?

I know it didnt do well but that sounds REALLY low.

by **Barb** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:29 am

Journey is sitting at #3 right now with 28.66% of sales reported. Since Journey is only being sold in one market, it will probably go down a few spots when other albums sales start coming in. According to Hits Daly Double, 61,311 units sold. I'm not sure if more will be added.

by **Hollywood** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:41 am

amaron wrote:
maverick218 wrote:You know, I always thought that Wal-Mart didn't release sales figures, but it seems that I'm wrong... Looking forward to the results.

Wal-Mart doesn't report their sales data to Soundscan, which counts albums sold. The RIAA charts are based on albums shipped.

This is the exact reason I had an issue with TBF being platinum at release. They didn't sell 1,000,000+ albums, they just shipped them.

You’re right that the RIAA only count units shipped and not sold, but these figures have nothing to do with the charts.

The Billboard charts are based on units sold and tracked through Soundscan. Wal-Mart does report their sales to Soundscan.

Until November of last year the exclusive releases that they had were not allowed to chart due to a Billboard rule. That rule was altered just before the Eagles exclusive came out.

Generations sold piss poor at retail because they gave it out at concerts before it even hit the market. They probably gave away 400,000 copies. This limits the number of people who would purchase it at a store. Sanctuary also did not promote the record at all because of this. Only die-hard fans picked up the record.

by **sniper16** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:32 am

actually a surcharge was added to my ticket , so the 7000 at my show would be considered sales, but i dont believe journey reported these.

by **Red13JoePa** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:40 am

sniper16 wrote:actually a surcharge was added to my ticket , so the 7000 at my show would be considered sales, but i dont believe journey reported these.

They didn't report those, both Schon and Cain said they were concerned more with getting Generations out to as many as possible rather than forking over to have the concert ones certified.

So the retail release debuted in around the 150s when it came out that October.

by **ebake02** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:59 am

Barb wrote: Since Journey is only being sold in one market, it will probably go down a few spots when other albums sales start coming in.

With Walmart being the biggest market, I think it might do better than what some people think.

by **Barb** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:51 am

Journey has moved down to #5. 40.13% of sales reported so far. Units sold did not change, still 61, 311.

by **swataz** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:54 am

Hi Barb-

Where does this info come from?

by **Barb** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:55 am

swataz wrote:Hi Barb-

Where does this info come from?

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

by **Art Vandelay** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:57 am

ebake02 wrote:
Barb wrote: Since Journey is only being sold in one market, it will probably go down a few spots when other albums sales start coming in.

With Walmart being the biggest market, I think it might do better than what some people think.

Can someone please tell me when exactly did Walmart become the CD sales mecca, opposed to the outlets that are really known for music sales (Best Buy, Circuit City, FYE, Borders, Barnes & Noble, I-Tunes)?

by **swataz** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:59 am

Barb wrote:
swataz wrote:Hi Barb-

Where does this info come from?

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

Thanks!

by **amaron** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:14 am

Arrival's sales would have made it a top 5 album in 2008 FFS!

by **Barb** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:19 am

57.32% sales reported, Journey now at #6; units sold remains 61,311.

by **Barb** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:01 am

Sweet! We're back in business! Now 58.28% of sales have been reported and Journey has moved up to the #4 slot with 73,987 units sold!

by **Saint John** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:17 am

Barb wrote:Sweet! We're back in business! Now 58.28% of sales have been reported and Journey has moved up to the #4 slot with 73,987 units sold!

Those numbers must have come from a Journey stronghold, Barb. :lol:

by **Barb** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:26 am

Saint John wrote:
Barb wrote:Sweet! We're back in business! Now 58.28% of sales have been reported and Journey has moved up to the #4 slot with 73,987 units sold!

Those numbers must have come from a Journey stronghold, Barb.

I hope there's another one out there not yet reported! I want to see over 100K!

by **Andrew** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:37 am

Sorry for jumping in late...

Chart 58% compiled.

Journey currently set to debut at #4 with 73,987 units sold. Updates as I get them.

by **tammy** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:44 am

For those of us who don't follow charts...what does this mean?

by **Saint John** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:48 am

Andrew wrote:Sorry for jumping in late...

Chart 58% compiled.

Journey currently set to debut at #4 with 73,987 units sold. Updates as I get them.

Scroll up a few posts, peckerhead. :lol:

Barb beat ya. :twisted:

by **Barb** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:50 am

I don't think we'll get anymore updates until tomorrow morning.

by **Saint John** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:10 am

Barb wrote:I don't think we'll get anymore updates until tomorrow morning.

Hey, you volunteered for this!!! Better start making coffee, Barb. We want the results as they come in!!! :lol:

by **Andrew** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:11 am

Saint John wrote:
Andrew wrote:Sorry for jumping in late...

Chart 58% compiled.

Journey currently set to debut at #4 with 73,987 units sold. Updates as I get them.

Scroll up a few posts, peckerhead. Barb beat ya.

Well, I'll hand my thread over to Barb then.

MR

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