Tomulator wrote:youkeepmewaiting wrote:ProgRocker53 wrote:Greg wrote:Centaure wrote:Actually they didn't put everything on TBF and Arrival, there were a lot of songs written for thoses records.
For Arrival, Kevin Shirley actually pick all the ballads for the 1st version that eventually leaked onto the internet. Fans didn't want another album full of ballads (like TBF) so they put pressure on the band for more rockers ! They put World Gone Wild, Nothin' Come Close and To Be Alive Again on the 2nd version of Arrival. It was actually the good move to do since a lot of fans love that album.
Schon and Shirley had a fight about that. That is probably why he didn't want to work with him again. Obviously Shirley didn't make that mistake again for Revelation.
Personally, I don't care how long is the album. For me, more is the better.
I'm sure there were plenty of songs written for those albums that didn't make the cut. However, I believe if you are going to put 15 or more songs on one album, it had better be 15 songs that really stand out. Now, I LOVE Trial By Fire. Sure, I wish there could've been more rockers on the album, but I'd rather have well written songs that keep my attention on one album (even if they are mid tempos and ballads) rather than an album full of "filler" material. I'm wondering though, if Trial By Fire was a 10 song album, and the only ballads on the entire album were When You Love A Woman and say, the title track, how would have people responded to the album?
I think Journey was wise in putting out an album that had no more than ten vocal tracks. It allows less room for error, and I think you get a better quality album.
Side note, I'd love to hear the songs that were left off of Trial By Fire and Arrival.
If TBF had the following tracklist it would be a MUCH better album.
1. Message of Love
2. One More
3. When You Love A Woman
4. If He Should Break Your Heart
5. Forever in Blue
6. Still She Cries
7. Colors of the Spirit
8. Can't Tame the Lion
9. I Can See It In Your Eyes
10. Easy to Fall
11. Trial By Fire
4 rockers, 4 mid-tempo, 3 ballads.
That would of been a great, great album.
I always skip Dont Be Down On Me Baby and Is It Just The Rain - awful stuff, just not needed.
I do LOVE TBF though.
Why does everyone HATE Don't Be Down On Me Baby?????
I think it's quite likely the STRONGEST vocal on the whole disc!
GREAT song.
Totally agree. It's a great track.
