Jeremey & Journey Demo Info

[hgwy407]

OK, I'll take dickhead any day, rather than "ass kiss". I Am a professional musician, and have been for over 30 years. It doesn't take a musician to realize, demo or not (after all he WAS trying to land the gig), the vocals blow. Now having said that, I have heard his live stuff and he comes off MUCH better there. That said, these vocals are just plain bad.

[Saint John]

I dont think it needs saying that They wound up with the wrong guy.

Best of luck Jeremey - you were the real man for the job but given your position I understand why things had to be the way they are.

The dog ate his weed!

Cheech: What is in this shit, man?
Man: Mostly Maui-waui, man...
Cheech: Yeah?
Man: ... but it's got some labrador in it.
Cheech: What's labrador?
Man: It's dog shit, man.
Cheech: What!
Man: Yeah, my dog ate my stash, man. Had it on the table and the little motherfucker ate it. It really blew the dog's mind, man.
Cheech: You mean we're smoking dog shit, man?

Oh man I bet my wife's never seen "Up In Smoke". I have to rent that so she can see it. I haven't seen it in years but I remember the first 30-45 minutes were hilarious but it really drops off after that.
"labrador"

I know almost the whole movie by heart. I must've watched that movie 50-100 times while in college. We weren't smoking pot, though.

[Abitaman]

Thanks for posting these, J. You would have been a great singer for them.

I'll 2nd that-ERIC

[tammy]

okay, no disrespect to Jeremey (btw, congrats on the writing credit)...but, I'm just not hearing what Neal says...I'm not hearing Steve Perry.
I do hear more of SP in Arnel.

[donnaplease]

okay, no disrespect to Jeremey (btw, congrats on the writing credit)...but, I'm just not hearing what Neal says...I'm not hearing Steve Perry.
I do hear more of SP in Arnel.

Try this one, Tammy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgS2bNkmA0

[tammy]

okay, no disrespect to Jeremey (btw, congrats on the writing credit)...but, I'm just not hearing what Neal says...I'm not hearing Steve Perry.
I do hear more of SP in Arnel.

Try this one, Tammy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgS2bNkmA0

Granted youtube is not the best to judge (the guitar is getting in the way) but, I guess I'm just not "feeling it". I don't know exactly what it is...warmth, earnestness, fire? JH can hit the high notes & sustain, but maybe it is all too high throughout. I know everybody has their own opinion & taste (and ears, lol) and I don't argue who is right or wrong...um, well, I guess I do agree that Journey made the right choice in AP. I listen to the new songs and am glad to hear AP's own voice with just bits and pieces of SP (and even SA oddly enough.)
And, I'm not trying to be rude or anything...I'm just saying what it is to me.

[Ehwmatt]

OK, I'll take dickhead any day, rather than "ass kiss". I Am a professional musician, and have been for over 30 years. It doesn't take a musician to realize, demo or not (after all he WAS trying to land the gig), the vocals blow. Now having said that, I have heard his live stuff and he comes off MUCH better there. That said, these vocals are just plain bad.

Yea, I'm really interested in "ass kissing." I don't even know Jeremey. I've never spoken to him, seen him (although I'm probably going when he comes to Cleveland in a few weeks), or even quoted him in a thread here on MR.

You come in the guy's own thread and completely deride a demo take with no tact or anything. Considering it's the guys own thread, a little tact would have been nice maybe? I know musicians need thick skin and all and I'm sure Jeremey isn't losing any sleep, but to me it's just disrespectful. I happen to like Arnel's take on the songs more myself, but then again, Arnel did have the advantages of the guys in the band fully developing the melody/chord progression, which Jeremey didn't have on this rough demo (the lyrics aren't even the same, let alone the chords/parts of the melody). That's not even counting post-processing verb' EQ and any other "polish" the finished product got. I'm all for criticism, I criticize my favorite bands and musicians plenty. Your original post probably wouldn't have bothered me as much if someone else had posted up the links and Jeremey wasn't a contributing member here.

Anyway, thanks for sharing Jeremey. I look forward to seeing you guys in a few weeks.

[slucero]

OK, I'll take dickhead any day, rather than "ass kiss". I Am a professional musician, and have been for over 30 years. It doesn't take a musician to realize, demo or not (after all he WAS trying to land the gig), the vocals blow. Now having said that, I have heard his live stuff and he comes off MUCH better there. That said, these vocals are just plain bad.

You must be one of them there "perfessional moosicians" that CAN'T FUCKING READ.... read the VERY 1st POST on this thread where Jeremey explains what these are and why he released them as they are....

[Since 78]

OK, I'll take dickhead any day, rather than "ass kiss". I Am a professional musician, and have been for over 30 years. It doesn't take a musician to realize, demo or not (after all he WAS trying to land the gig), the vocals blow. Now having said that, I have heard his live stuff and he comes off MUCH better there. That said, these vocals are just plain bad.

O.K. Dickhead its called Etiquette

[kgdjpubs]

okay, no disrespect to Jeremey (btw, congrats on the writing credit)...but, I'm just not hearing what Neal says...I'm not hearing Steve Perry.
I do hear more of SP in Arnel.

Try this one, Tammy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgS2bNkmA0

Granted youtube is not the best to judge (the guitar is getting in the way) but, I guess I'm just not "feeling it". I don't know exactly what it is...warmth, earnestness, fire? JH can hit the high notes & sustain, but maybe it is all too high throughout. I know everybody has their own opinion & taste (and ears, lol) and I don't argue who is right or wrong...um, well, I guess I do agree that Journey made the right choice in AP. I listen to the new songs and am glad to hear AP's own voice with just bits and pieces of SP (and even SA oddly enough.)
And, I'm not trying to be rude or anything...I'm just saying what it is to me.

This "whether you hear Perry" thing means different things to different people. My criteria for judging is whether you hear a Sam Cooke/Jackie Wilson, or more specially soul/motown approach to singing. I'm not talking about high notes, range, depth/warmness of voice. This is simply about phrasing and the approach taken to interpreting lyrics. Perry? Yes. Rod Stewart? Yes. JSS? Yes. Marc Anthony? Yes. Mark Free? Yes, but Aretha vs. Cooke. Paul Rodgers? Somewhat, but a LOT of blues in there also. Augeri? Yes, but buried behind other, much stronger influences. Hugo? No. Chalfant? No. Jeremey? No. Arnel? Undecided--there is SOMETHING present especially on the ballads however (see What I Needed), but influences unknown and phrasing deviates wildly on rock material.

For other people the criteria may be different. Jeremey may be dead on for Perry on Journey covers, but that is the easy part. You simply have to copy the vocal nuances of the original singer--easier for some than others, and having a very similar voice to the original singer helps. Vocal influences show the most on original material, and I simply don't hear the Perry/Cooke/Wilson influence there. JSS has that background moreso than anyone so far, even if he doesn't sound like Perry much--find him singing the ROR material if any questions.

It's not a simple end-all-be-all way to judge the "quality" of a singer either. Jeremey does VERY well on that song (one of Perry's best vocals ever), but I just don't hear the Cooke influence on his original material, or the new Journey material either.

[Deb]

okay, no disrespect to Jeremey (btw, congrats on the writing credit)...but, I'm just not hearing what Neal says...I'm not hearing Steve Perry.
I do hear more of SP in Arnel.

Try this one, Tammy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgS2bNkmA0

Granted youtube is not the best to judge (the guitar is getting in the way) but, I guess I'm just not "feeling it". I don't know exactly what it is...warmth, earnestness, fire? JH can hit the high notes & sustain, but maybe it is all too high throughout. I know everybody has their own opinion & taste (and ears, lol) and I don't argue who is right or wrong...um, well, I guess I do agree that Journey made the right choice in AP. I listen to the new songs and am glad to hear AP's own voice with just bits and pieces of SP (and even SA oddly enough.)
And, I'm not trying to be rude or anything...I'm just saying what it is to me.

This "whether you hear Perry" thing means different things to different people. My criteria for judging is whether you hear a Sam Cooke/Jackie Wilson, or more specially soul/motown approach to singing. I'm not talking about high notes, range, depth/warmness of voice. This is simply about phrasing and the approach taken to interpreting lyrics. Perry? Yes. Rod Stewart? Yes. JSS? Yes. Marc Anthony? Yes. Mark Free? Yes, but Aretha vs. Cooke. Paul Rodgers? Somewhat, but a LOT of blues in there also. Augeri? Yes, but buried behind other, much stronger influences. Hugo? No. Chalfant? No. Jeremey? No. Arnel? Undecided--there is SOMETHING present especially on the ballads however (see What I Needed), but influences unknown and phrasing deviates wildly on rock material.

For other people the criteria may be different. Jeremey may be dead on for Perry on Journey covers, but that is the easy part. You simply have to copy the vocal nuances of the original singer--easier for some than others, and having a very similar voice to the original singer helps. Vocal influences show the most on original material, and I simply don't hear the Perry/Cooke/Wilson influence there. JSS has that background moreso than anyone so far, even if he doesn't sound like Perry much--find him singing the ROR material if any questions.

It's not a simple end-all-be-all way to judge the "quality" of a singer either. Jeremey does VERY well on that song (one of Perry's best vocals ever), but I just don't hear the Cooke influence on his original material, or the new Journey material either.

Gawd yes, somebody who totally gets it!!!! You're right, perfect example is JSS on the ROR material ~ I'll Be Alright Without You - JSS/Journey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDtHpo3I5vc

Soul/motown approach/delivery is EXACTLY why Steve Perry, Jeff Scott Soto and Eric Martin are my favorite singers.

[Rip Rokken]

OK, I'll take dickhead any day, rather than "ass kiss". I Am a professional musician, and have been for over 30 years. It doesn't take a musician to realize, demo or not (after all he WAS trying to land the gig), the vocals blow. Now having said that, I have heard his live stuff and he comes off MUCH better there. That said, these vocals are just plain bad.

Hey, playing the guitar in Mexico Chiquito doesn't really count, but still.... no need to be so harsh, man! He said from the onset that he wanted to share the rough demos, while the songs were first being fleshed out. He chose not to rerecord the vocal so we could hear the original outtakes as-is -- I think that's pretty cool.

[kgdjpubs]

Gawd yes, somebody who totally gets it!!!! You're right, perfect example is JSS on the ROR material ~ I'll Be Alright Without You - JSS/Journey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDtHpo3I5vc

Soul/motown approach/delivery is EXACTLY why Steve Perry, Jeff Scott Soto and Eric Martin are my favorite singers.

Too bad JSS never got to perform more of the ROR material as it was much more in his natural range, and also where Perry's motown influences came to the forefront (along with Street Talk)--and that would have been REALLY easy for JSS to sing. Everyone always said ROR was basically a Perry solo album with Journey backing. I always thought it was basically Journey doing motown. Journey cranked out Happy to Give with Deen on vocals and a killer, lengthy Neal solo in 2004. Part of me was hoping they would resurrect that with JSS, but it never happened. ROR and TBF were definitely JSS's best parts. Too bad they played so little of those albums with him, as those influences only really started coming to the forefront on Street Talk, with the beginnings on Frontiers.

yea, Eric Martin has it also, but there is something about his voice that makes him sound perpetually hoarse to my ears. Good songwriter though, and he's managed to keep his range. Of course, I like Jimmy Barnes' voice which has been described not so favorably as an angle grinder, so what do I know?!? Beneath it all though, there is a strong motown influence underneath a VERY distinct voice that compares only to a male version of Tina Turner. Find Too Much Ain't Enough Love off the Freight Train Heart cd with Neal on lead guitar....or the even better live version on Barnestorming, without Neal unfortunately.

Arnel's got something in there though, so it will be really interesting to hear him tackle some of Perry's best soul vocals....Stay Awhile, Still They Ride, etc. Hopefully, they will let him have a crack at After the Fall on this tour at least once or twice. Hit the tempo up a bit and boost the bass for that strong groove (like the Frontiers and Beyond show with Perry), and that song is pure motown. The band was on warp mode that night though, even speeding up the ballads, so chances of ATF with that tempo returning are highly unlikely however.

Augeri had it also with the Rod Stewart influence (see Beyond the Clouds for a rare surfacing), but it was usually buried beneath a lot of Led Zeppelin influences which were much stronger for his vocal style. I still find it amazing he was able to modify his voice to cover Perry. Unfortunately, it was also his undoing once he was stuck forever covering Perry with little to no original material to preserve his voice.

[stevew2]

Great job Jeremey!!, thats for sharing keep your chops up, your are sounding awesome

[G.I.Jim]

Gawd yes, somebody who totally gets it!!!! You're right, perfect example is JSS on the ROR material ~ I'll Be Alright Without You - JSS/Journey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDtHpo3I5vc

Soul/motown approach/delivery is EXACTLY why Steve Perry, Jeff Scott Soto and Eric Martin are my favorite singers.

Too bad JSS never got to perform more of the ROR material as it was much more in his natural range, and also where Perry's motown influences came to the forefront (along with Street Talk)--and that would have been REALLY easy for JSS to sing. Everyone always said ROR was basically a Perry solo album with Journey backing. I always thought it was basically Journey doing motown. Journey cranked out Happy to Give with Deen on vocals and a killer, lengthy Neal solo in 2004. Part of me was hoping they would resurrect that with JSS, but it never happened. ROR and TBF were definitely JSS's best parts. Too bad they played so little of those albums with him, as those influences only really started coming to the forefront on Street Talk, with the beginnings on Frontiers.

yea, Eric Martin has it also, but there is something about his voice that makes him sound perpetually hoarse to my ears. Good songwriter though, and he's managed to keep his range. Of course, I like Jimmy Barnes' voice which has been described not so favorably as an angle grinder, so what do I know?!? Beneath it all though, there is a strong motown influence underneath a VERY distinct voice that compares only to a male version of Tina Turner. Find Too Much Ain't Enough Love off the Freight Train Heart cd with Neal on lead guitar....or the even better live version on Barnestorming, without Neal unfortunately.

Arnel's got something in there though, so it will be really interesting to hear him tackle some of Perry's best soul vocals....Stay Awhile, Still They Ride, etc. Hopefully, they will let him have a crack at After the Fall on this tour at least once or twice. Hit the tempo up a bit and boost the bass for that strong groove (like the Frontiers and Beyond show with Perry), and that song is pure motown. The band was on warp mode that night though, even speeding up the ballads, so chances of ATF with that tempo returning are highly unlikely however.

Augeri had it also with the Rod Stewart influence (see Beyond the Clouds for a rare surfacing), but it was usually buried beneath a lot of Led Zeppelin influences which were much stronger for his vocal style. I still find it amazing he was able to modify his voice to cover Perry. Unfortunately, it was also his undoing once he was stuck forever covering Perry with little to no original material to preserve his voice.

Seems like the thread is turning into a JSS thread. No disrespect, but this IS a thread about Jeremey's versions of the demos. For the record, I love JSS, and am a huge fan. He was very pleasant when we met him in Columbia, and I wish him nothing but the best. Now back to the original post...

[Jeremey]

This "whether you hear Perry" thing means different things to different people. My criteria for judging is whether you hear a Sam Cooke/Jackie Wilson, or more specially soul/motown approach to singing. I'm not talking about high notes, range, depth/warmness of voice. This is simply about phrasing and the approach taken to interpreting lyrics. Perry? Yes. Rod Stewart? Yes. JSS? Yes. Marc Anthony? Yes. Mark Free? Yes, but Aretha vs. Cooke. Paul Rodgers? Somewhat, but a LOT of blues in there also. Augeri? Yes, but buried behind other, much stronger influences. Hugo? No. Chalfant? No. Jeremey? No. Arnel? Undecided--there is SOMETHING present especially on the ballads however (see What I Needed), but influences unknown and phrasing deviates wildly on rock material.

For other people the criteria may be different. Jeremey may be dead on for Perry on Journey covers, but that is the easy part. You simply have to copy the vocal nuances of the original singer--easier for some than others, and having a very similar voice to the original singer helps. Vocal influences show the most on original material, and I simply don't hear the Perry/Cooke/Wilson influence there. JSS has that background moreso than anyone so far, even if he doesn't sound like Perry much--find him singing the ROR material if any questions.

It's not a simple end-all-be-all way to judge the "quality" of a singer either. Jeremey does VERY well on that song (one of Perry's best vocals ever), but I just don't hear the Cooke influence on his original material, or the new Journey material either.

Honestly, I was never influenced by Sam Cooke. I looked up Sam Cooke because of Steve Perry. I'm a different generation of singer, and don't have the same vocal imprint as those who came up 15-20 years before me. That being said, it was very cool to have the members of Little River Band join Frontiers on stage tonight in Myrtle Beach for "Don't Stop Believin'" and "Open Arms."

[Don]

[
Honestly, I was never influenced by Sam Cooke. I looked up Sam Cooke because of Steve Perry. I'm a different generation of singer, and don't have the same vocal imprint as those who came up 15-20 years before me. That being said, it was very cool to have the members of Little River Band join Frontiers on stage tonight in Myrtle Beach for "Don't Stop Believin'" and "Open Arms."

[/quote]

I am more into the original LRB (Birtles,Shorrock and Goble) but I always liked Wayne Nelson. Was he there tonight?

[wednesday's child]

I don't know Jeremey. Never met the guy, and never heard him sing 'til I played those clips.
Anyone who devotes his life to sharing a love of this music gets my respect.
I love Never Walk Away on Revelation, and Jeremey's part in making that song deserves appreciation.

His Journey demos? I liked them.
Nitpickers might be forgetting how much work goes into making a NEW song better vocally,
and I'm not talking about ProTools. I'm talking about deciding how to sing an unfamiliar song.
Ask Arnel how ragged and pitchy his first several takes were. Heck, it's a matter of published record.
On video too. If Jeremey'd had more time with it (Arnel had days-on-end with Jon to work stuff out),
then Jeremey's "demos" would have been even better than they are.

IMHO, Arnel approaches a Perry-esque vocal differently.
He's more of a power belter, and at the higher notes, that's when he can bend it close. Really close.
Jeremey's got a more elegant base, and is close to Perry throughout his range.
It's good stuff either way.

So, the question...
Is Jeremey, or is Arnel, the better vocalist for Journey? IMHO...
on MR, that'd be bullshit speculation by some of the most ignorant, peanut-gallery participants possible,
unless the opinions offered were given respectfully and humbly...
Really, there seem to be only two persons posting on this forum who have a real idea what
"vocalists fitting into Journey and Journey's sound" is really all about.

One of those two gentlemen actually started this thread,
and IIRC, he decided that the more important question to ask was:
Is Journey the better band for Jeremey?



Rock on, and stay true, JH.
-wech

[texafana]

First off I'm a big JH fan and I'm looking forward to seeing Frontiers in Dallas, Tx. The vocals in the Never Walk Away demo are not up to JH's usual high standards in my opinion. And yes they are a bit flat in several areas. So if this was my first time hearing J sing I'd be a little confused as well to be honest. Lose Your Love and Winds of Change sound much better vocally. J's got some serious enchilladas for posting these.

[faithfullyjourney]

I don't know Jeremey. Never met the guy, and never heard him sing 'til I played those clips.
Anyone who devotes his life to sharing a love of this music gets my respect.
I love Never Walk Away on Revelation, and Jeremey's part in making that song deserves appreciation.

-wech

Fuck u wech! You said it all!…I have all my respect to j….rock on J!

[mikemarrs]

pretty good stuff there.

[Just Mindy]

Awesome to hear those, thanks for putting them up Jeremey!

[Moon Beam]

it was very cool to have the members of Little River Band join Frontiers on stage tonight in Myrtle Beach for "Don't Stop Believin'" and "Open Arms."

Dang dandy that is!
Which members joined you Jeremey?

[Luvsaugeri]

I think you sound great on those Jeremy. Thanks for posting them.

[Just Mindy]

it was very cool to have the members of Little River Band join Frontiers on stage tonight in Myrtle Beach for "Don't Stop Believin'" and "Open Arms."

Dang dandy that is!
Which members joined you Jeremey?

Wow I missed this...please tell me someone filmed this???

[kgdjpubs]

His Journey demos? I liked them.
Nitpickers might be forgetting how much work goes into making a NEW song better vocally,
and I'm not talking about ProTools. I'm talking about deciding how to sing an unfamiliar song.
Ask Arnel how ragged and pitchy his first several takes were. Heck, it's a matter of published record.
On video too. If Jeremey'd had more time with it (Arnel had days-on-end with Jon to work stuff out),
then Jeremey's "demos" would have been even better than they are.

...thus being the exact reason I stayed out of the discussion of the demos. As far as I'm concerned, judging them on anything more then first-time-you-sang-an-unfinished-song-with-a-lyric-sheet is expecting too much out of them, and very few singers would sound mind-blowingly good at that time with a one-cut-no-overdub performance in those circumstances....and that's not even counting the nervousness that was present which will wreak havoc on your voice, as it sounds rather spontaneous.

It will be easier to judge whenever someone puts up a good version of Frontiers doing the song once the new band gels. One can only hope that Jeremey will do a polished version of his style instead of just copying Arnel's vocals on the final product. Being songwriter and original vocalist, Jeremey definitely has the pedigree to treat the song as original material, and it will only help him in the long run.

IMHO, Arnel approaches a Perry-esque vocal differently.
He's more of a power belter, and at the higher notes, that's when he can bend it close. Really close.
Jeremey's got a more elegant base, and is close to Perry throughout his range.
It's good stuff either way.

That's probably a pretty good way to put it. Two totally different voices and styles that overlap in range.

So, the question...
Is Jeremey, or is Arnel, the better vocalist for Journey?

the more important question to ask was:
Is Journey the better band for Jeremey?

I'd say all's well that ends well. Jeremey seems to be happy, and the world got to hear the talents of Arnel, who otherwise would have stayed in obscurity, and that would be a shame. He's got the perfect voice to do a credible job on the Perry material and bring something new to the band. All he has to do is hang on and he will be set.

In the end, here is what you have...
Arnel's got a new cd with Journey and is learning the ropes of touring with a big band,
Jeremey is working on original material to be released,
JSS is recording a new album (or 4) as always,
Augeri has his voice back, is performing live, and recording a new cd,
and Steve Perry is finding out that he still sounds like Steve Perry...as opposed to the Exorcist demon, I presume.
What is there to fight about?!?

[larryfromnextdoor]

thanks J. !! loved them !

LRB?? man i would love for you to pull off LADY!! you would own that sucker..

[tammy]

His Journey demos? I liked them.
Nitpickers might be forgetting how much work goes into making a NEW song better vocally,
and I'm not talking about ProTools. I'm talking about deciding how to sing an unfamiliar song.
Ask Arnel how ragged and pitchy his first several takes were. Heck, it's a matter of published record.
On video too. If Jeremey'd had more time with it (Arnel had days-on-end with Jon to work stuff out),
then Jeremey's "demos" would have been even better than they are.

...thus being the exact reason I stayed out of the discussion of the demos. As far as I'm concerned, judging them on anything more then first-time-you-sang-an-unfinished-song-with-a-lyric-sheet is expecting too much out of them, and very few singers would sound mind-blowingly good at that time with a one-cut-no-overdub performance in those circumstances....and that's not even counting the nervousness that was present which will wreak havoc on your voice, as it sounds rather spontaneous.

It will be easier to judge whenever someone puts up a good version of Frontiers doing the song once the new band gels. One can only hope that Jeremey will do a polished version of his style instead of just copying Arnel's vocals on the final product. Being songwriter and original vocalist, Jeremey definitely has the pedigree to treat the song as original material, and it will only help him in the long run.

IMHO, Arnel approaches a Perry-esque vocal differently.
He's more of a power belter, and at the higher notes, that's when he can bend it close. Really close.
Jeremey's got a more elegant base, and is close to Perry throughout his range.
It's good stuff either way.

That's probably a pretty good way to put it. Two totally different voices and styles that overlap in range.

So, the question...
Is Jeremey, or is Arnel, the better vocalist for Journey?

the more important question to ask was:
Is Journey the better band for Jeremey?

I'd say all's well that ends well. Jeremey seems to be happy, and the world got to hear the talents of Arnel, who otherwise would have stayed in obscurity, and that would be a shame. He's got the perfect voice to do a credible job on the Perry material and bring something new to the band. All he has to do is hang on and he will be set.

In the end, here is what you have...
Arnel's got a new cd with Journey and is learning the ropes of touring with a big band,
Jeremey is working on original material to be released,
JSS is recording a new album (or 4) as always,
Augeri has his voice back, is performing live, and recording a new cd,
and Steve Perry is finding out that he still sounds like Steve Perry...as opposed to the Exorcist demon, I presume.
What is there to fight about?!?

True. Everyone seems to be happy where they are and making music, so it's cool. I'm glad Journey got Arnel instead of another popular band getting him.

[Jeremey]

I am more into the original LRB (Birtles,Shorrock and Goble) but I always liked Wayne Nelson. Was he there tonight?

Greg Hind and Chris Marion came on stage to sing with us. I'm not sure who the other member was that was there but I know it wasn't Wayne. I had a great conversation with Greg after the show as well. It was a very cool night!

[Ehwmatt]

I am more into the original LRB (Birtles,Shorrock and Goble) but I always liked Wayne Nelson. Was he there tonight?

Greg Hind and Chris Marion came on stage to sing with us. I'm not sure who the other member was that was there but I know it wasn't Wayne. I had a great conversation with Greg after the show as well. It was a very cool night!

I'm jealous.. Greg is a KILLER singer.