Cain says Perry will never be in Journey again

[brandonx76]

I betcha Schon was just as much of a pain in Perry's ass, with the booze factor fanning the flames.

You have got to be kidding....Schon's drinking problem that he has aluded over the last couple years, is a bit overplayed.

So very typical that it's brought up though, brandonpfn.
See, being a perry fan, as they're only so very happy to try and jam down everyone's throat at every turn, is all about "class" and being above this sort of thing

A valiant effort...if we can save just one soul....

[brywool]

NEWSFLASH: Perry can't sing anymore. Definitely not up to Journey standards.

At least you added the second part in.

I'm still convinced that if you and he had a sing-off today, he'd kick your ass across the floor.

I know he'd kick mine.

I don't know. If I had a good day, I think I could make it interesting.

and somewhere sits NS, cruising youtube once again and he happens onto:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vJElLyOL4&feature=related

He just shakes his head.

He shakes his head because he goes "man, that guy COULD sing". Perry's probably still got A voice. But it's not a voice that can do these songs any longer. Why is that so hard for people to get? Listen to his 94 tour stuff, listen to the Bill Graham, listen to the Philly ROR show. The guy is past his prime. It happens with most athletes and Perry was definitely a vocal athlete. Also, and here's a lot of it, the guy does NOT HAVE THE DESIRE OR DRIVE TO DO IT ANYMORE. Isn't that enough?

[finalfight]

Cain said he'd never make that call, but Schon might...

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Nah....Schon thinks he's found his next Perry.
Check out Arnel's DSB on the DVD, then pop in the Escape DVD. I laughed my ass off when I watched one after the other. I didn't really want to compare, but I couldn't help myself!
Perry's legacy is in CONCRETE. That has to get under Cain's skin big time.

Now do the same with Open Arms.

[NealIsGod]

He shakes his head because he goes "man, that guy COULD sing". Perry's probably still got A voice. But it's not a voice that can do these songs any longer. Why is that so hard for people to get? Listen to his 94 tour stuff, listen to the Bill Graham, listen to the Philly ROR show. The guy is past his prime. It happens with most athletes and Perry was definitely a vocal athlete. Also, and here's a lot of it, the guy does NOT HAVE THE DESIRE OR DRIVE TO DO IT ANYMORE. Isn't that enough?

I think if Perry would stop teasing his fans by dropping hints about "seeing what he's got left", "new demos he's been working on", etc., I think you would see a lot less Loonacy.

[Saint John]

He shakes his head because he goes "man, that guy COULD sing". Perry's probably still got A voice. But it's not a voice that can do these songs any longer. Why is that so hard for people to get? Listen to his 94 tour stuff, listen to the Bill Graham, listen to the Philly ROR show. The guy is past his prime. It happens with most athletes and Perry was definitely a vocal athlete. Also, and here's a lot of it, the guy does NOT HAVE THE DESIRE OR DRIVE TO DO IT ANYMORE. Isn't that enough?

I think if Perry would stop teasing his fans by dropping hints about "seeing what he's got left", "new demos he's been working on", etc., I think you would see a lot less Loonacy.

Exactly, but he can't help but perpetuate the notion that he still "sounds as good as anytime as he did in the mid 80's." Steve Perry has nixed his own career. Other artists aged before our eyes, so year after year we didn't even really notice the gradual decline. But Perry didn't do that. People still remember him from the 80's and expect that he would sound like that. He's "deep-sixed" his own career and I expect that he will never perform live again. Some dusted off old project that's been pro-tooled to death is the best Loons can hope for. In the immortal words of Ken "Hawk" Harrelson..."HE GONE!!!" "Grab some bench."

[CatEyes]

NEWSFLASH: Perry can't sing anymore. Definitely not up to Journey standards.

At least you added the second part in.

I'm still convinced that if you and he had a sing-off today, he'd kick your ass across the floor.

I know he'd kick mine.

I don't know. If I had a good day, I think I could make it interesting.

and somewhere sits NS, cruising youtube once again and he happens onto:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vJElLyOL4&feature=related

He just shakes his head.

He shakes his head because he goes "man, that guy COULD sing". Perry's probably still got A voice. But it's not a voice that can do these songs any longer. Why is that so hard for people to get? Listen to his 94 tour stuff, listen to the Bill Graham, listen to the Philly ROR show. The guy is past his prime. It happens with most athletes and Perry was definitely a vocal athlete. Also, and here's a lot of it, the guy does NOT HAVE THE DESIRE OR DRIVE TO DO IT ANYMORE. Isn't that enough?

Who in the fuck are you posting to?

I know not to me.

I do not need to be told what to listen to by anyone. I have heard it. I was there.

this was not an argumennt as to whether Perry can still sing or not ..... however, if you can only handle one train of thought at a time, so be it.

Enough what? I never said Perry should come back. Either with Journey or solo.

Let me spell it out for all of you Perry-pundits:

Neal Schon does not have his "new Perry".

He has the new lead singer for his band, Journey.

So far the shelf-life hasn't been so good.

Cat

[Michigan Girl]

[Don]

I'm glad Arnel is not the 'New Perry'. In his own words Perry quit. The new team might not hit the homeruns they had with Perry but they still have a good batting average. Perry obviously doesn't want to perform any more. Some Stars treat their fans differently. Glenn Shorrock stills goes out there even in his 60's and sings for the fans. He doesn't need the money but enjoys what he does. The fans don't mind if his voice is weaker because they appreciate the effort he is giving them. There is a lot of old singers that do this. Apparently Perry feels he has given enough to fans. I f you want to be at the base of the Temple and shower him with adulation go for it, but when our favorite player leaves a team we don't stop watching the team, we get behind the new players.

[Greg]

Cain said he'd never make that call, but Schon might...

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Nah....Schon thinks he's found his next Perry.
Check out Arnel's DSB on the DVD, then pop in the Escape DVD. I laughed my ass off when I watched one after the other. I didn't really want to compare, but I couldn't help myself!
Perry's legacy is in CONCRETE. That has to get under Cain's skin big time.

Schon has said virtually the same thing with every lead singer Journey has gotten since Perry. Go to you tube and listen to what Schon says from the CBS morning show interview. While Cain may not have anything to do with Perry anymore, Schon would collaborate with him in a heartbeat!

[Perrydise]

Cain said he'd never make that call, but Schon might...

\
Nah....Schon thinks he's found his next Perry.
Check out Arnel's DSB on the DVD, then pop in the Escape DVD. I laughed my ass off when I watched one after the other. I didn't really want to compare, but I couldn't help myself!
Perry's legacy is in CONCRETE. That has to get under Cain's skin big time.

Why should it? I think the "J-Boys" all acknowledge and respect the legend that Steve Perry is. They are just trying to move on with their music, and I think for the first time in a very long time, they are content with where they are at. Steve Perry on the other hand, does not seem content to me. He sounds like a tortured soul.

Wow what the internet, a little money and some free tickets will get someone to say. It is evident you can be bought and cheaply too. You nor anyone else on here can make a valid point with a stupid statement like that, unless of course you are his personal therapist, which we know you aren't.

[Barb]

Cain said he'd never make that call, but Schon might...

\
Nah....Schon thinks he's found his next Perry.
Check out Arnel's DSB on the DVD, then pop in the Escape DVD. I laughed my ass off when I watched one after the other. I didn't really want to compare, but I couldn't help myself!
Perry's legacy is in CONCRETE. That has to get under Cain's skin big time.

Why should it? I think the "J-Boys" all acknowledge and respect the legend that Steve Perry is. They are just trying to move on with their music, and I think for the first time in a very long time, they are content with where they are at. Steve Perry on the other hand, does not seem content to me. He sounds like a tortured soul.

Wow what the internet, a little money and some free tickets will get someone to say. It is evident you can be bought and cheaply too. You nor anyone else on here can make a valid point with a stupid statement like that, unless of course you are his personal therapist, which we know you aren't.

What the fuck are you even talking about? Do you know me? I don't think so. I am a very big fan of Mr. Perry. Always have been, always will be. No one has EVER given me free tickets or backstage passes. My statement was not stupid. It was an opinion I formed after reading every word of his GQ interview and that was the impression I was left with.

You Perry loons are fucking hilarious. When you state in an interview that you can't even bear to hear your own voice singing because omg, it sounds like "Steve Perry", you have some issues there. I was really taken aback by how painful everything on earth seems to be for him. Sorry you can't handle the opinion of someone who is merely a fan of Steve Perry and not that of an irrational and obsessed loon-atic.

[Onestepper]

Cain said he'd never make that call, but Schon might...

\
Nah....Schon thinks he's found his next Perry.
Check out Arnel's DSB on the DVD, then pop in the Escape DVD. I laughed my ass off when I watched one after the other. I didn't really want to compare, but I couldn't help myself!
Perry's legacy is in CONCRETE. That has to get under Cain's skin big time.

Why should it? I think the "J-Boys" all acknowledge and respect the legend that Steve Perry is. They are just trying to move on with their music, and I think for the first time in a very long time, they are content with where they are at. Steve Perry on the other hand, does not seem content to me. He sounds like a tortured soul.

Wow what the internet, a little money and some free tickets will get someone to say. It is evident you can be bought and cheaply too. You nor anyone else on here can make a valid point with a stupid statement like that, unless of course you are his personal therapist, which we know you aren't.

What the fuck are you even talking about? Do you know me? I don't think so. I am a very big fan of Mr. Perry. Always have been, always will be. No one has EVER given me free tickets or backstage passes. My statement was not stupid. It was an opinion I formed after reading every word of his GQ interview and that was the impression I was left with.

You Perry loons are fucking hilarious. When you state in an interview that you can't even bear to hear your own voice singing because omg, it sounds like "Steve Perry", you have some issues there. I was really taken aback by how painful everything on earth seems to be for him. Sorry you can't handle the opinion of someone who is merely a fan of Steve Perry and not that of an irrational and obsessed loon-atic.

Come on..don't you know you can't have an objective opinion around here without being accused of being on the looney train?

Agreed on the tortured soul aspect. I think he brings it on himself, but it is sad to see. As I've stated previously,
artists tend to over think everything, even their own talent.

[Tito]

Wow what the internet, a little money and some free tickets will get someone to say. It is evident you can be bought and cheaply too. You nor anyone else on here can make a valid point with a stupid statement like that, unless of course you are his personal therapist, which we know you aren't.

Hey, who's getting free tickets and money! Where's mine? I want some.

[mistiejourney]

I actually watched the BTM last night (Red13JoePa inspired me with his two quotes from the episode). After watching it again, I came to the conclusion there are no bad guys in the breakup. It's all ego and stubbornness. Just a bunch of headstrong guys (specifically Herbie and Perry). Perry wound up winning that battle in '95. However, when the guys basically told him to shit or get off the pot, his stubbornness probably got the best of the situation. I do not blame Schon, Cain, Valory, and company for continuing on one bit. They were probably pissed, thinking in hindsight, after all this we should've just continued in the 80s.

I think that stubbornness still prevails after all this time too. It may be why Perry doesn't pick up the phone or talks to Neal after all this time. He may feel a little betrayal in his mind, but also may know it may be tempting to go back. However, his ego won't let him go back, so he eliminates all contact and temptation.

Cain knows it, and basically gave Perry a compliment in saying he sticks to his word.

Yeah, I got the same impression, that it was a compliment that (a) Steve keeps his word and (b) an acknowledgment that Steve is happy, his legacy is secure and he doesn't need the hassle of touring.

Not what I would have expected from Jon, actually.

[Don]

Every interview Perry does he appears to always be battling the prodromal phase of psychosis. Most personalities and people in the spotlight go through this ocasionally but Perry seems to be chronically stuck with this condition.

[Tito]

Not what I would have expected from Jon, actually.

You don't give this man enough credit. He is not this evil person as some make him out to be. If he was, there would be some people missing from around here. Don't think "Friga" couldn't make a call to his old stomping grounds of Franklin Park, IL and get some of you wacked. All I'm saying, I think I know why the man changed him. BTW, that will be the last time I refer to him by that name. His name is Cain.

[Tito]

Every interview Perry does he appears to always be battling the prodromal phase of psychosis. Most personalities and people in the spotlight go through this ocasionally but Perry seems to be chronically stuck with this condition.

"He would make Sigmund Freud run to the hills," is a pretty accurate quote.

[StoneCold]

Haven't seen this anywhere on here, forgive if it HAS been discussed ...

Hi Angie, where's this article from?

[Perrydise]

Cain said he'd never make that call, but Schon might...

\
Nah....Schon thinks he's found his next Perry.
Check out Arnel's DSB on the DVD, then pop in the Escape DVD. I laughed my ass off when I watched one after the other. I didn't really want to compare, but I couldn't help myself!
Perry's legacy is in CONCRETE. That has to get under Cain's skin big time.

Why should it? I think the "J-Boys" all acknowledge and respect the legend that Steve Perry is. They are just trying to move on with their music, and I think for the first time in a very long time, they are content with where they are at. Steve Perry on the other hand, does not seem content to me. He sounds like a tortured soul.

Wow what the internet, a little money and some free tickets will get someone to say. It is evident you can be bought and cheaply too. You nor anyone else on here can make a valid point with a stupid statement like that, unless of course you are his personal therapist, which we know you aren't.

What the fuck are you even talking about? Do you know me? I don't think so. I am a very big fan of Mr. Perry. Always have been, always will be. No one has EVER given me free tickets or backstage passes. My statement was not stupid. It was an opinion I formed after reading every word of his GQ interview and that was the impression I was left with.

You Perry loons are fucking hilarious. When you state in an interview that you can't even bear to hear your own voice singing because omg, it sounds like "Steve Perry", you have some issues there. I was really taken aback by how painful everything on earth seems to be for him. Sorry you can't handle the opinion of someone who is merely a fan of Steve Perry and not that of an irrational and obsessed loon-atic.

It is my opinion and it stands as is!

My opinion was formed after you hijacked a thread that Andrew started this week and YOU took over the thread as being a KNOW IT ALL. Your name calling just adds to it.

[Barb]

Cain said he'd never make that call, but Schon might...

\
Nah....Schon thinks he's found his next Perry.
Check out Arnel's DSB on the DVD, then pop in the Escape DVD. I laughed my ass off when I watched one after the other. I didn't really want to compare, but I couldn't help myself!
Perry's legacy is in CONCRETE. That has to get under Cain's skin big time.

Why should it? I think the "J-Boys" all acknowledge and respect the legend that Steve Perry is. They are just trying to move on with their music, and I think for the first time in a very long time, they are content with where they are at. Steve Perry on the other hand, does not seem content to me. He sounds like a tortured soul.

Wow what the internet, a little money and some free tickets will get someone to say. It is evident you can be bought and cheaply too. You nor anyone else on here can make a valid point with a stupid statement like that, unless of course you are his personal therapist, which we know you aren't.

What the fuck are you even talking about? Do you know me? I don't think so. I am a very big fan of Mr. Perry. Always have been, always will be. No one has EVER given me free tickets or backstage passes. My statement was not stupid. It was an opinion I formed after reading every word of his GQ interview and that was the impression I was left with.

You Perry loons are fucking hilarious. When you state in an interview that you can't even bear to hear your own voice singing because omg, it sounds like "Steve Perry", you have some issues there. I was really taken aback by how painful everything on earth seems to be for him. Sorry you can't handle the opinion of someone who is merely a fan of Steve Perry and not that of an irrational and obsessed loon-atic.

It is my opinion and it stands as is!

My opinion was formed after you hijacked a thread that Andrew started this week and YOU took over the thread as being a KNOW IT ALL. Your name calling just adds to it.

LOL! You've got to be kidding me!

[tammy]

Wow, is anyone even still asking the question?

[Marabelle]

If people here posting cannot get along discussing something they know little about; how do you think Steve and Neal and the others will ever be able to talk. All of this has nothing to do with any of the people posting here yet one person can't speak their thoughts without another person challenging their statements. I think it's hopeless. Turn off the lights and go home. It's never going to happen. And that is so sad to me.

[Michigan Girl]

Not what I would have expected from Jon, actually.

You don't give this man enough credit. He is not this evil person as some make him out to be. If he was, there would be some people missing from around here. Don't think "Friga" couldn't make a call to his old stomping grounds of Franklin Park, IL and get some of you wacked. All I'm saying, I think I know why the man changed him. BTW, that will be the last time I refer to him by that name. His name is Cain.

And you want us to LIKE him, FRIGA??!!!

[amaron]

Cain said he'd never make that call, but Schon might...

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Nah....Schon thinks he's found his next Perry.
Check out Arnel's DSB on the DVD, then pop in the Escape DVD. I laughed my ass off when I watched one after the other. I didn't really want to compare, but I couldn't help myself!
Perry's legacy is in CONCRETE. That has to get under Cain's skin big time.

Schon has said virtually the same thing with every lead singer Journey has gotten since Perry. Go to you tube and listen to what Schon says from the CBS morning show interview. While Cain may not have anything to do with Perry anymore, Schon would collaborate with him in a heartbeat!

Yeah... Augeri was the greatest thing ever... then JSS... now Arnel.

[Deb]

Wow, is anyone even still asking the question?

LOL what question? MR threads get sidetracked, hijacked and go down so many different roads, I have no idea what the initial question is?

[Barb]

Cain said he'd never make that call, but Schon might...

\
Nah....Schon thinks he's found his next Perry.
Check out Arnel's DSB on the DVD, then pop in the Escape DVD. I laughed my ass off when I watched one after the other. I didn't really want to compare, but I couldn't help myself!
Perry's legacy is in CONCRETE. That has to get under Cain's skin big time.

Schon has said virtually the same thing with every lead singer Journey has gotten since Perry. Go to you tube and listen to what Schon says from the CBS morning show interview. While Cain may not have anything to do with Perry anymore, Schon would collaborate with him in a heartbeat!

Yeah... Augeri was the greatest thing ever... then JSS... now Arnel.

Neal lives in the moment. I think that could be why he's been married so many times. He's not being phony about it. He just believes what he has at that moment is the greatest thing ever - singer or woman until he has something different and realizes the new one is better.

[Michigan Girl]

Wow, is anyone even still asking the question?

LOL what question? MR threads get sidetracked, hijacked and go down so many different roads, I have no idea what the initial question is?

Was just going to ask myself!!!

[Michigan Girl]

Cain said he'd never make that call, but Schon might...

\
Nah....Schon thinks he's found his next Perry.
Check out Arnel's DSB on the DVD, then pop in the Escape DVD. I laughed my ass off when I watched one after the other. I didn't really want to compare, but I couldn't help myself!
Perry's legacy is in CONCRETE. That has to get under Cain's skin big time.

Schon has said virtually the same thing with every lead singer Journey has gotten since Perry. Go to you tube and listen to what Schon says from the CBS morning show interview. While Cain may not have anything to do with Perry anymore, Schon would collaborate with him in a heartbeat!

Yeah... Augeri was the greatest thing ever... then JSS... now Arnel.

Neal lives in the moment. I think that could be why he's been married so many times. He's not being phony about it. He just believes what he has at that moment is the greatest thing ever - singer or woman until he has something different and realizes the new one is better.

Wow, like a kid with a new and better toy!!!

[Onestepper]

If people here posting cannot get along discussing something they know little about; how do you think Steve and Neal and the others will ever be able to talk. All of this has nothing to do with any of the people posting here yet one person can't speak their thoughts without another person challenging their statements. I think it's hopeless. Turn off the lights and go home. It's never going to happen. And that is so sad to me.

Welcome to everyothermessageboardintheworld.com. I don't think this forum has exclusivity on disagreements, or some people being mean, tough or cool because they can hide behind their computer screens.

[Art Vandelay]

Every interview Perry does he appears to always be battling the prodromal phase of psychosis. Most personalities and people in the spotlight go through this ocasionally but Perry seems to be chronically stuck with this condition.

Thanks, doc. Can you grab me an autograph from Steve the next time his comes in for one of your evaluations?