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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:11 am

conversationpc wrote:TNC, what a hypocrite you are. Just a couple weeks ago, you were castigating RedWingFan for a stupid comment in the thread about Ted Kennedy's unfortunate illness.


I imparted my thoughts on the man articulately and cogently.
Take it or leave it.
What I did not do, is enter a thread liked RedWing and shout "Wonder what Mary Jo thinks about this? Oh wait she drowned" and then flee for the hills.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:13 am

Enigma869 wrote:Sorry TNC...I think you're out of line here, and am disappointed that nobody has called you out on this. You are a legendary poster, and I've always enjoyed your posts. I simply don't think a thread about a man's passing is the time, nor place, to go on about how your poltiics and view of the world didn't agree with his. EVERYONE always believes that their view of the world is the "right one", and that's fine. At the end of the day, we all feel how we feel and aren't going to convert anyone on "the other side".


Any pasing is a tragedy, but at the same time, I think he was a media whore.

Enigma869 wrote:Political arguments never have a winner or loser. Whether you liked Tim Russert or not, or agreed with his poltiics or not, there is a wife who no longer has her husband...a dad who has to bury his child...a sister who no longer has her brother to call...and a young man, who just graduated from college, who now has to spend his Father's Day helping his mom plan his dad's funeral! Politics aside, 58 is far too young for anyone to die, and it's always very sad when someone loses a loved one.
John from Boston


I didn't start the tit-for-tat.
I just gave my thoughts.
People want me to expound further so I did.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:15 am

Loneman1 wrote:TNC, we've never talked before, and I have enjoyed alot of your posts, but to come into a thread about someone that just died and slam him again and again over different political beliefs really is a shitty thing to do.


I didn't slam him again and again. I made one post and was then asked to defend my views. I am not afraid to do that.

Loneman1 wrote:To say you have a bit of "relief" about his death is just sick.


I acknowledged its a sad way to look at anyone's death, but I think the guy was bad news. Sue me.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:22 am

Rip Rokken wrote:I think he made it extremely evident that he is a robotic, one-sided political hack with a perpetual air of condescension in his tone. Being closed minded and arrogant at the same time do not make for a good combination.


Clearly, you did not watch Tim's irresponsible handling of the Republican debates.
In fact, I think the only time you come within proximity of a newspaper is to vainly check if Archie has yet to fuck Veronica or Betty.
You are a stupid, stupid man.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:27 am

conversationpc wrote:So...TNC, are you the face of the modern day Democratic party?


I wish.
Most Democrats are toeing the line about this supposed hard-hitting journalist and his tireless commitment to the truth.
Just another GE puppet.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:54 am

tinylights wrote:Looks like TNC must have drank down his strong cup of STFU. And (we can all hope) has realized that he was being an asshole, by pissing on Tim Russert's as yet uncovered grave.


Any death is a tragedy, but I would be lying if I said my remorse wasn’t accompanied by a mite of relief.
As was oft-recited during the last night’s memorial coverage, Tim Russert considered himself to be the “temporary custodian of a national treasure.”
For once, I agree.

When you’re standing in the ballot box come November shaking your head at the paucity of choices, you can thank people like Russert, who excluded voices, slanted questions, and toyed with Democracy like a game of jacks.

tinylights wrote:Or then again, I'm betting on him popping back up again. Bastards like him, with no sense of right or wrong, respect or lack thereof, tend to not really know when to let up.


If you’re going to address me, then I am entitled to respond in kind.

tinylights wrote:I happen to think that Ted Kennedy was a lying scumbag that got away with murder a few decades ago, but I never came on this board and said that when I thought he might be dying a few weeks ago. But then that's the difference between scumbag, neo-socialist, liberals like TNC and your average middle of the road American like me.


I hate to interrupt your preening as a shining moral star, but you just did call Kennedy all those nasty things, and he still might very well drop dead tomorrow.

tinylights wrote:I only hope that TNC hasn't already and doesn't pro-create. Because if he is feeding this kind of vile sh*t to innocent young children, then the world is only going to get worse.


I am actually sooo socialist that I think your wife’s ovaries are possession of the state.
Hopefully Red General Obama will be first in line to take a crack at her.
I am definitely going to want a jumbo ICEE and Raisinettes for that showstopper.
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Postby conversationpc » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:35 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:I imparted my thoughts on the man articulately and cogently.
Take it or leave it.
What I did not do, is enter a thread liked RedWing and shout "Wonder what Mary Jo thinks about this? Oh wait she drowned" and then flee for the hills.


I figured you wouldn't take responsibility for your own comments, especially noting their hypocritical nature.
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Postby Barb » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:38 am

conversationpc wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:I imparted my thoughts on the man articulately and cogently.
Take it or leave it.
What I did not do, is enter a thread liked RedWing and shout "Wonder what Mary Jo thinks about this? Oh wait she drowned" and then flee for the hills.


I figured you wouldn't take responsibility for your own comments, especially noting their hypocritical nature.


Personally, I can't wait until Keith Olbermann dies. :lol:
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:38 am

conversationpc wrote:I figured you wouldn't take responsibility for your own comments, especially noting their hypocritical nature.


I don't have to.
I already had the moral decency to openly acknowledged that any death is a tragedy, and that to view it as anything else is sad.
But this isn't a wake, and it's not going to stop me from saying what I genuinely think.
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Postby conversationpc » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:42 am

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Rip Rokken wrote:I think he made it extremely evident that he is a robotic, one-sided political hack with a perpetual air of condescension in his tone. Being closed minded and arrogant at the same time do not make for a good combination.


Clearly, you did not watch Tim's irresponsible handling of the Republican debates.
In fact, I think the only time you come within proximity of a newspaper is to vainly check if Archie has yet to fuck Veronica or Betty.
You are a stupid, stupid man.


Your throwdowns used to have a tinge of comedy to them and I used to enjoy them to a degree. Anymore, it just seems like you are a bitter, angry, insecure neophyte. You constantly bag on Republicans for their tactics, yet you employ them yourself. Please remove the log from your own eye before you try removing the speck from your brother's.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:44 am

Barb wrote:Personally, I can't wait until Keith Olbermann dies. :lol:


If the media are truly liberal, it stands to reason that you would feel this way no matter whose name was engraved on the tombstone.
Unlike yourself, I have watched Russert in action over the years and have made up my own mind.
Nobody with a microphone taught me how to think and wipe myself.
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Postby conversationpc » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:51 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Nobody with a microphone taught me how to think and wipe myself.


That makes sense because it seems like you are still in diapers.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:53 am

conversationpc wrote:That makes sense because it seems like you are still in diapers.


I entered this thread to say a few thoughts about the subject at hand - Tim Russert.
It is Conservatives like you who have attempted to drag the thread out and mutate it into some sort of ideological battle of civilizations.
I'm not interested.
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Postby conversationpc » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:56 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
conversationpc wrote:That makes sense because it seems like you are still in diapers.


I entered this thread to say a few thoughts about the subject at hand - Tim Russert.
It is Conservatives like you who have attempted to drag the thread out and turn it into some sort of ideological battle of civilizations.
I'm not interested.


You're a poor liar. You were the one who injected ideology into the thread in the first place, so your very obviously interested.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:01 am

conversationpc wrote:You're a poor liar. You were the one who injected ideology into the thread in the first place, so your very obviously interested.


I stated my views on Tim Russert. No more, no less.
As I said on the very first page, I wasn't interested in a pissing match.
If you wish to continue to mis-use his death as yet another occassion to rage against the insidious leftist agenda go right ahead.
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Postby conversationpc » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:03 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:I stated my views on Tim Russert. No more, no less.
As I said on the very first page, I wasn't interested in a pissing match.
If you wish to continue to mis-use his death as yet another occassion to rage against the insidious leftist agenda go right ahead.


I thought you weren't interested?
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Postby tj » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:08 am

Wow. Someone dies. This forum turns into wishing others whose opinions and tactics we dont agree with will die. Arguments and continuous posts about who has or hasn't said things or said them in what way. :?

In a small town near where my grandparents used to live, two 13 year old girls were murdered last week. Walking down the rural road, 1/4 mile from home and someone shoots them both several times in the face and chest. Later that day, one girl's Grandfather finds them lying in a ditch.

I often wish people could keep things in perspective. :?
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:12 am

conversationpc wrote:I thought you weren't interested?


I'm not, but if you want to go down that route, I will listlessly play along.

I talked about Tim Russert in the only limited sense that I knew him: as a viewer.
Through that prism, I thought he was a failure as a journalist.
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Postby Barb » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:13 am

[quote="tj"]Wow. Someone dies. This forum turns into wishing others whose opinions and tactics we dont agree with will die. Arguments and continuous posts about who has or hasn't said things or said them in what way. :?

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That was a joke. Trying to make TNC's head explode. I don't wish anyone to die, not even that moron.
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Postby tj » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:15 am

Barb wrote:
tj wrote:Wow. Someone dies. This forum turns into wishing others whose opinions and tactics we dont agree with will die. Arguments and continuous posts about who has or hasn't said things or said them in what way. :?

[\quote]

That was a joke. Trying to make TNC's head explode. I don't wish anyone to die, not even that moron.


Glad to hear it. It just seems that sometimes things get way out of hand here. Often hard to tell a joke from a poke in the eye.
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Postby SteveForever » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:29 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
conversationpc wrote:That makes sense because it seems like you are still in diapers.


I entered this thread to say a few thoughts about the subject at hand - Tim Russert.
It is Conservatives like you who have attempted to drag the thread out and mutate it into some sort of ideological battle of civilizations.
I'm not interested.


TNC,
To fit in any social group as you claw and scratch you way up you will want
to know the proper ways to behave and conduct yourself.
Manners never go out of style and putting others at ease is very important, otherwise
they will think you are crass and from bad stock.

Your education can only take you so far, but your demeanor and poise have a great
deal to do with your delivery and how others will accept you and believe me you will
seek their approval=otherwise you won't be in the academia circles you desire or whatever
it is that you wish to achieve.

Your timing shows your immaturity and that you are possibly socially inept.

There is something called reverence and if you didn't grow up in a family that taught it to
you then you'll have to teach yourself. People in this thread have tried to school you,
but you are too determined to see that.

I am sure you spend a great deal of your time on
political forums and then you rush right back to MR to spew your new found opinions,
but you come across as a huge.....ass.

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Postby X factor » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:29 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:I think he made it extremely evident that he is a robotic, one-sided political hack with a perpetual air of condescension in his tone. Being closed minded and arrogant at the same time do not make for a good combination.


Clearly, you did not watch Tim's irresponsible handling of the Republican debates.
In fact, I think the only time you come within proximity of a newspaper is to vainly check if Archie has yet to fuck Veronica or Betty.
You are a stupid, stupid man.



That's over the line, man.
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Postby Barb » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:30 am

X factor wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:I think he made it extremely evident that he is a robotic, one-sided political hack with a perpetual air of condescension in his tone. Being closed minded and arrogant at the same time do not make for a good combination.


Clearly, you did not watch Tim's irresponsible handling of the Republican debates.
In fact, I think the only time you come within proximity of a newspaper is to vainly check if Archie has yet to fuck Veronica or Betty.
You are a stupid, stupid man.



That's over the line, man.


TNC is your run of the mill condescending liberal and he's proud of it. Calling him out on it only makes him blush with pride.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:33 am

SteveForever wrote:TNC,
To fit in any social group as you claw and scratch you way up you will want
to know the proper ways to behave and conduct yourself.
Manners never go out of style and putting others at ease is very important, otherwise
they will think you are crass and from bad stock.

Your education can only take you so far, but your demeanor and poise have a great
deal to do with your delivery and how others will accept you and believe me you will
seek their approval=otherwise you won't be in the academia circles you desire or whatever
it is that you wish to achieve.

Your timing shows your immaturity and that you are possibly socially inept.

There is something called reverence and if you didn't grow up in a family that taught it to
you then you'll have to teach yourself. People in this thread have tried to school you,
but you are too determined to see that.

I am sure you spend a great deal of your time on
political forums and then you rush right back to MR to spew your new found opinions,
but you come across as a huge.....ass.

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Ok, well I've been here long before Deano was so much as a glint in Andrew's eye.
If you take the forum audience into account each time before posting, you're in for quite a letdown.
The make-up of this place changes constantly.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:42 am

Barb wrote:TNC is your run of the mill condescending liberal and he's proud of it. Calling him out on it only makes him blush with pride.


More borderline genocidal hate speech.
This thread wasn't about right, left or any affiliation until you and your ilk made it that way.
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Postby SteveForever » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:47 am

So when you say this.."Ok, well I've been here long before Deano was so much as a glint in Andrew's eye.
If you take the forum audience into account each time before posting, you're in for quite a letdown.
The make-up of this place changes constantly."............are you saying that because you've
been here so long that its your right to say whateva you want?

Its Saturday, are you the RA at your dorm and you have to sit there all day? there must be some reason
you are taking so much time to spar your point because frankly no one is listening, all they are hearing (seeing)
is your tantrum. If there is anyone on this forum that agrees with TNC please stand up and be heard.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:56 am

SteveForever wrote:are you saying that because you've
been here so long that its your right to say whateva you want?


I never said that.
The implication, of course, was that I've been here long enough to know that the suggestion of tailoring what I say to current forum members is a mug's game. This forum, like all others, exists on shifting sands.
I come here to impart my views - the hell with who's here, who's not, and who personally likes it.

SteveForever wrote:Its Saturday, are you the RA at your dorm and you have to sit there all day? there must be some reason
you are taking so much time to spar your point because frankly no one is listening, all they are hearing (seeing)
is your tantrum. If there is anyone on this forum that agrees with TNC please stand up and be heard.


This is so tiring. I don't know where you got your personal info about me, but it was a disreputable source.
Your one ace in the hole is the notion that I'm a grad student, or an undergrad student - neither of which have been true for years.
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Postby Barb » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:57 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Barb wrote:TNC is your run of the mill condescending liberal and he's proud of it. Calling him out on it only makes him blush with pride.


More borderline genocidal hate speech.
This thread wasn't about right, left or any affiliation until you and your ilk made it that way.


Truth hurts, doesn't it? You are damn proud of being an elitist liberal and calling others stupid. You do it here practically every single day. Telling you that you are condescending is borderline genocidal hate speech? WTF is wrong with you? :roll:
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:02 am

Barb wrote:Truth hurts, doesn't it? You are damn proud of being an elitist liberal and calling others stupid. You do it here practically every single day.


The flap of "liberal elitists" was conceived by elitists, employed by elitists, and remains so (i.e. Hillary Clinton and McCain) up to this current day.
You're a pawn and don't even know it.

Barb wrote:Telling you that you are condescending is borderline genocidal hate speech? WTF is wrong with you? :roll:


This thread is about Tim Russert.
It is not about the invisible leftists shadow agents that you percieve under every nook and stone.
With that said, I will say what passes for talk radio in this country isn't too far removed from the Hutus in Rwanda.
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Postby SteveForever » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:04 am

quote.."This is so tiring. I don't know where you got your personal info about me, but it was a disreputable source.
Your one ace in the hole is the notion that I'm a grad student, or an undergrad student - neither of which have been true for years."


Only a guess because of the way you are relentless in your political attacks, most grown ups
don't give a damn because they realize that for the most part Americans are beat down into submission
and we don't really have any power, your youth shines through like a beacon.

No matter who the audience is wherever on this planet=there is a right place and time
for everything. Someday you might be a father and some things will be alot more clear for you, I feel terrible
for Russert's son and I hope he never sees this type of garbage on the internet.


over and out~ time for a bike ride...
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