OT: Latest Don Imus controversy & Media Matters

[The_Noble_Cause]

yes, because MSNBC dared allow Trent Lott to speak out loud, LOL.

No, the headline actually reads...

"MSNBC again hosted Lott in discussion of McCain’s energy policy without disclosing that Lott is a lobbyist for gas and oil companies"

That's an issue all viewers, regardless of political persuassion, should meet eye-to-eye.
What a cheap shill you are.

[conversationpc]

Every soundbyte or video clip is in-context.
Perhaps, generously so - sometimes spanning close to five minutes.
I hear right wing liars like Savage and Beck play the out-of-context card all the time.
Usually they just read the anonymous comments left by website users and pretend they are an official part of the website.

I guess if you think Beck is a liar then Media Matters is the place to be since they certainly know all about lying.

[Barb]

(in or out of context, doesn't matter to them) so that they can create a scandal and hopefully get them taken off the air.

Every soundbyte or video clip is in-context.
Perhaps, generously so - sometimes spanning close to five minutes.
I hear right wing liars like Savage and Beck play the out-of-context card all the time.
Usually they just read the anonymous comments left by website users and pretend they are an official part of the website.

Why do you even care what they say? Who fucking cares? I would sooner HANG MYSELF than listen to Air America all day long so I could capture all of their outrageous idiotic statements. Yet this the sole purpose of these morons at Media Matters.

Do you think I care what Randy Rhodes says about anything? I know she's a left wing nut job. Michael Savage is a well KNOWN right wing nut job. Who cares what he says? I just don't get the fascination with people who do this.

[Barb]

yes, because MSNBC dared allow Trent Lott to speak out loud, LOL.

No, the headline actually reads...

"MSNBC again hosted Lott in discussion of McCain’s energy policy without disclosing that Lott is a lobbyist for gas and oil companies"

That's an issue all viewers, regardless of political persuassion, should meet eye-to-eye.
What a cheap shill you are.

How many global warmist extremists do you think there are on George Soros' payroll? This bullshit works both ways, but you don't care about truth, so don't call me a cheap shill.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I guess if you think Beck is a liar then Media Matters is the place to be since they certainly know all about lying.

Prove it.
The audio and video speaks for itself.
The reason the website is such a gadfly for right wingers is because it holds a mirror up to the largely unspoken nihlistic underbelly of the Conservative movement. Allowing Limbaugh and Coulter, and their army of clones, to be hoisted by thier own petard.

[Barb]

I guess if you think Beck is a liar then Media Matters is the place to be since they certainly know all about lying.

Prove it.
The audio and video speaks for itself.
The reason the website is such a gadfly for right wingers is because it holds a mirror up to the largely unspoken nihlistic underbelly of the Conservative movement. Allowing Limbaugh and Coulter, and their army of clones, to be hoisted by thier own petard.

I think media matters is the biggest joke I've ever seen. The only people who hang on their every word are leftys like you.

[conversationpc]

I guess if you think Beck is a liar then Media Matters is the place to be since they certainly know all about lying.

Prove it.
The audio and video speaks for itself.
The reason the website is such a gadfly for right wingers is because it holds a mirror up to the largely unspoken nihlistic underbelly of the Conservative movement. Allowing Limbaugh and Coulter, and their army of clones, to be hoisted by thier own petard.

Look, if you're going to use big words to make yourself seem intelligent, at least learn how to spell them.

[The_Noble_Cause]

How many global warmist extremists do you think there are on George Soros' payroll?

Who cares?
What relationship does that have to a media wathdog site who's express goal is to cite conservative misinformation?

This bullshit works both ways, but you don't care about truth, so don't call me a cheap shill.

The very fact that you begrudge ONE liberal website's existence, while turning a blind eye towards the cottage industry of Conservative online counterparts, tells me you're bought and paid for.
Do you live your "free market" values, or just preach them?
Let both websites flourish and let the people decide.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I think media matters is the biggest joke I've ever seen. The only people who hang on their every word are leftys like you.

No facts.

[Rip Rokken]

Not surprising, as they are nothing but a tool of the radical left, but what did Imus say this time?

And MediaMatters would differ from Brent Bozell's Media Research Center/Newsbusters just how?
God forbid the left should have a media watchdog site of their own.
I thought you guys believed in competition?

Those prone to labeling the site "radical", are the very hair-trigger radio squawking heads who can’t keep from continually landing in it’s sights.

This goes back to a previous point I made against you -- rather than playing teflon and deflecting all issues back with counter-accusations, try for once defending or justifying any charge made against your side of the fence. Media Matters is a left-leaning organization who is not interested in exposing liberal groups. True or false? I'm not using this to make Repubs or conservatives appear more righteous, so no need to get defensive and point the blame finger back -- just deal with that one issue and account for it.

[conversationpc]

The very fact that you begrudge ONE liberal website's existence, while turning a blind eye towards the cottage industry of Conservative online counterparts, tells me you're bought and paid for.
Do you live your "free market" values, or just preach them?
Let both websites flourish and let the people decide.

I don't know that I've ever heard Barb reference Bozell's site, for instance. Hell, I can't even remember the name of it. We don't camp out there and hang on every word like slobbering imbeciles like some lefties do with Media Matters.

[Barb]

How many global warmist extremists do you think there are on George Soros' payroll?

Who cares?
What relationship does that have to a media wathdog site who's express goal is to cite for conservative misinformation?

This bullshit works both ways, but you don't care about truth, so don't call me a cheap shill.

The very fact that you begrudge ONE liberal website's existence, while turning a blind eye towards the cottage industry of Conservative online counterparts, tells me you're bought and paid for.
Do you live your "free market" values, or just preach them?
Let both websites flourish and let the people decide.

TNC, I don't begrudge MM, I think they are a joke. They are silly people wasting their lives being shocked by conservatives expressing conservative opinion. Like I said early, why do they even care?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Why do you even care what they say? Who fucking cares? I would sooner HANG MYSELF than listen to Air America all day long so I could capture all of their outrageous idiotic statements. Yet this the sole purpose of these morons at Media Matters.

Do you think I care what Randy Rhodes says about anything? I know she's a left wing nut job. Michael Savage is a well KNOWN right wing nut job. Who cares what he says? I just don't get the fascination with people who do this.

Again, the Media Research Center and Newsbusters have been doing it for years.
Why do you have a problem with competition?
I don't.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I don't know that I've ever heard Barb reference Bozell's site, for instance. Hell, I can't even remember the name of it. We don't camp out there and hang on every word like slobbering imbeciles like some lefties do with Media Matters.

That's a baseless charge.
Right wing posts accompany each topic on Bozell's site.
As liberal ones do over on MM.
However, there is a smattering of both ideologies on each site.

[Barb]

Why do you even care what they say? Who fucking cares? I would sooner HANG MYSELF than listen to Air America all day long so I could capture all of their outrageous idiotic statements. Yet this the sole purpose of these morons at Media Matters.

Do you think I care what Randy Rhodes says about anything? I know she's a left wing nut job. Michael Savage is a well KNOWN right wing nut job. Who cares what he says? I just don't get the fascination with people who do this.

Again, the Media Research Center and Newsbusters have been doing it for years.
Why do you have a problem with competition?
I don't.

You are wrong. MRC and Newsbusters monitor MAINSTREAM media for bias and partisanship for the most part. Outlets like ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, NY Times. Not Air America or other openly left organizations. Conservative media is supposed to be conservative. Mainstream media is supposed to be neutral. Can you not comprehend the difference in the objectives of the 2 sites?

www.newsbusters.org

[The_Noble_Cause]

This goes back to a previous point I made against you -- rather than playing teflon and deflecting all issues back with counter-accusations, try for once defending or justifying any charge made against your side of the fence. Media Matters is a left-leaning organization who is not interested in exposing liberal groups. True or false?

That's not a charge.
That's the website's mission statement, articulated right on their website.

"Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media."

I'm not using this to make Repubs or conservatives appear more righteous, so no need to get defensive and point the blame finger back -- just deal with that one issue and account for it.

There's nothing to account for.

[The_Noble_Cause]

You are wrong. MRC and Newsbusters monitor MAINSTREAM media for bias and partisanship for the most part. Outlets like ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, NY Times. Not Air America or other openly left organizations.

That's not true at all.
Even comedians like Bill Maher and Joy Behar are reprimanded on MRC.

Conservative media is supposed to be conservative. Mainstream media is supposed to be neutral.

A lie is a lie no matter the source.

Can you not comprehend the difference in the objectives of the 2 sites?

Newsbusters says they look for liberal media bias - period.
Nowhere do they say it is exclusive to mainstream media.

[conversationpc]

That's a baseless charge.
Right wing posts accompany each topic on Bozell's site.
As liberal ones do over on MM.
However, there is a smattering of both ideologies on each site.

Don't care...I don't visit either site all that often, though I do keep track of MM's RSS feed.

[X factor]

Back to the actual TOPIC of the thread...
CONTEXT . SHMONTEXT...Imus is a dumb ass and a complete tool if, less than a YEAR after the "Nappy headed" incident, he chooses to spout off something like this. My GOD, what a complete moron!!!

[Barb]

You are wrong. MRC and Newsbusters monitor MAINSTREAM media for bias and partisanship for the most part. Outlets like ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, NY Times. Not Air America or other openly left organizations.

That's not true at all.
Even comedians like Bill Maher and Joy Behar are reprimanded on MRC.

Conservative media is supposed to be conservative. Mainstream media is supposed to be neutral.

A lie is a lie no matter the source.

Can you not comprehend the difference in the objectives of the 2 sites?

Newsbusters says they look for liberal media bias - period.
Nowhere do they say it is exclusive to mainstream media.

Did you miss where I said for the "most part". I'm not saying they don't ever comment on other situations, but overall, they are in existence to monitor mainstream media.

[The_Noble_Cause]

That's a baseless charge.
Right wing posts accompany each topic on Bozell's site.
As liberal ones do over on MM.
However, there is a smattering of both ideologies on each site.

Don't care...I don't visit either site all that often, though I do keep track of MM's RSS feed.

If you don't visit each site, then where do you get off saying things like "We don't camp out there and hang on every word like slobbering imbeciles like some lefties do with Media Matters."
As if to say, there isn't an equally strong net activist presence on the right?

I think I am going to start a media watchdog site devoted solely to you and Barb.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Prove it.
The audio and video speaks for itself.
The reason the website is such a gadfly for right wingers is because it holds a mirror up to the largely unspoken nihlistic underbelly of the Conservative movement. Allowing Limbaugh and Coulter, and their army of clones, to be hoisted by thier own petard.

Look, if you're going to use big words to make yourself seem intelligent, at least learn how to spell them.

Someone cue up the bagpipes and play "Amazing Grace” as I lay slowly dying on the battlefield of ideas.
This is the net - where informal shorthand reigns.
Is that the best you got?

[conversationpc]

That's a baseless charge.
Right wing posts accompany each topic on Bozell's site.
As liberal ones do over on MM.
However, there is a smattering of both ideologies on each site.

Don't care...I don't visit either site all that often, though I do keep track of MM's RSS feed.

If you don't visit each site, then where do you get off saying things like "We don't camp out there and hang on every word like slobbering imbeciles like some lefties do with Media Matters."
As if to say, there isn't an equally strong net activist presence on the right?

I think I am going to start a media watchdog site devoted solely to you and Barb.

You're a tool. I said "we" as in Barb and I. I'm not here to comment for other conservatives.

[conversationpc]

Prove it.
The audio and video speaks for itself.
The reason the website is such a gadfly for right wingers is because it holds a mirror up to the largely unspoken nihlistic underbelly of the Conservative movement. Allowing Limbaugh and Coulter, and their army of clones, to be hoisted by thier own petard.

Look, if you're going to use big words to make yourself seem intelligent, at least learn how to spell them.

Someone cue up the bagpipes and play "Amazing Grace” as I lay slowly dying on the battlefield of ideas.
This is the net - where informal shorthand reigns.
Is that the best you got?

No, I kan cum up wth a lot mor, thanx.

[Barb]

That's a baseless charge.
Right wing posts accompany each topic on Bozell's site.
As liberal ones do over on MM.
However, there is a smattering of both ideologies on each site.

Don't care...I don't visit either site all that often, though I do keep track of MM's RSS feed.

If you don't visit each site, then where do you get off saying things like "We don't camp out there and hang on every word like slobbering imbeciles like some lefties do with Media Matters."
As if to say, there isn't an equally strong net activist presence on the right?

I think I am going to start a media watchdog site devoted solely to you and Barb.

You're a tool. I said "we" as in Barb and I. I'm not here to comment for other conservatives.

I scan the headlines at NB pretty much every day. Usually, I just roll my eyes and am not at all surprised. Sometimes there will be something I find particularly outrageous and read it, but I certainly don't "camp out" there.

[conversationpc]

That's a baseless charge.
Right wing posts accompany each topic on Bozell's site.
As liberal ones do over on MM.
However, there is a smattering of both ideologies on each site.

Don't care...I don't visit either site all that often, though I do keep track of MM's RSS feed.

If you don't visit each site, then where do you get off saying things like "We don't camp out there and hang on every word like slobbering imbeciles like some lefties do with Media Matters."
As if to say, there isn't an equally strong net activist presence on the right?

I think I am going to start a media watchdog site devoted solely to you and Barb.

You're a tool. I said "we" as in Barb and I. I'm not here to comment for other conservatives.

I scan the headlines at NB pretty much every day. Usually, I just roll my eyes and am not at all surprised. Sometimes there will be something I find particularly outrageous and read it, but I certainly don't "camp out" there.

OK...I'll revise my comment...

"I don't camp out there and hang on every word..."

[musicfan17]

I hate to be an Imus defender...but he was talking about how blacks are unfairly targeted by police, soley because they are black. He was discussing this with his BLACK co-host...who defended him...In THIS case he said nothing wrong. The whole conversation has to be taken in CONTEXT, or it gets skewed as you see happening now.

I actually heard the entire conversation during a rebroadcast and it certainly seems like he was saying that he was arrested BECAUSE he was black. Which I did not take as a racist comment, rather that he was being profiled because he was black. I'm not an IMUS fan or anything, but I think he gets a pass on this one. The press jumps all over these things lately and it's quite unnecessary.

[7 Wishes]

You know where I stand on the political end of the spectrum, but I don't think "Choice B" was the right one. If it was, then he is indeed the biggest idiot in the world. Anyway, thankfully this one appears as though it is going to blow over. Enough already.

[Rip Rokken]

This goes back to a previous point I made against you -- rather than playing teflon and deflecting all issues back with counter-accusations, try for once defending or justifying any charge made against your side of the fence. Media Matters is a left-leaning organization who is not interested in exposing liberal groups. True or false?

That's not a charge.
That's the website's mission statement, articulated right on their website.

Point well made, TNC... at least they are honest in admitting this.

[stevew2]

Where's Media Matters on the latest Don Imus controversy? Just curious since they came out guns blazing the last time and I can't even find a mention on their site about this last controversial comment.

Thats is because he is on RFD . Who in the fuck watches that, they have rodieos and cow auctions on that channel