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OT - Motley Crue - Saints of Los Angeles

Postby Eyeof » Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:23 pm

Hey guys...especially Red...anyone gave the ned SOLA CD a spin? It's taken me about two plays to start getting into it, but i'm really starting to dig it....it has some great hooks...Don't get me wrong...it's raw crew....it's loud, at times obnoxious and some of the lyrics are quite cheesy, but hey..it's Motley F#$king Crue right, what is it supposed to be?

I have passes for the first night of Crue fest next week in West Palm and I'm stoked!
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Re: OT - Motley Crue - Saints of Los Angeles

Postby Irwin M Fletcher » Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:33 pm

Eyeof wrote:Hey guys...especially Red...anyone gave the ned SOLA CD a spin? It's taken me about two plays to start getting into it, but i'm really starting to dig it....it has some great hooks...Don't get me wrong...it's raw crew....it's loud, at times obnoxious and some of the lyrics are quite cheesy, but hey..it's Motley F#$king Crue right, what is it supposed to be?

I have passes for the first night of Crue fest next week in West Palm and I'm stoked!


is it out yet? im a huge crue fan. i thought their last album (new tattoo) was great 8)
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:23 am

Best Buy @ 11 am Tues for me.

I am 2 spins in and not in love yet.

Tons of great Mick Mars searing axework, Lee beating the piss out of the drums but...

I'm thinking to many ghost writers/"honorary" crue members involved in the creative process (Ashba, Fredrikksen, Michael).

That said, couldn't be more thrilled and pumped for the Crue and Journey getting back to the top of the charts.
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Postby Eyeof » Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:27 am

after about four spins red i'm really starting to dig it...starting to see where the hooks come in...vince's voice...tommy's thundering drums...mars just rocks and the bass is always steady....i think it's a success...

love to see them on top as well...
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:32 am

Well, the title track does just flat out melt my face. What a jam that is.
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Postby Eyeof » Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:40 am

Red..the title track flat rocks...but it had to grow on me as well...

I'm really starting to dig MF of the Year and Just Another Psycho.

I also like the SixxAMish "The Animal In Me" a lot...

LOL..i got it 11:30 am on Tuesday....

Rock on man...
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:44 am

Hm.
See to me SOLA was the most "immediate" for lack of a better word, on the record.

You're right about some of the lyircs, too. Cringeworthy.

"If you wanna fight....got balls?....come on bring it" :oops: yikes.
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Postby Eyeof » Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:48 am

My favorite bit of poetic...

"Friday at the Troubedour, chicks passed out, naked in the back, everybody's gonna score."

Cringeworthy maybe, but hey Mark Twain once said. Write what you know.
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Postby Saint John » Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:49 am

Motherfucker Of The Year and SOLA really rock.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:52 am

Yes, they do get a pass b/c the lyrics are SUPPOSED to mirror the book so it's at least PARTLY by design.

Journey did the exact same thing on What It Takes To Win off Revelation. PURPOSELY made the lyrical content nothing but sports cliches and boy does it work. Many say it sounds like a Survivor track (along with Where DiD I Lose Your Love?).

"This ain't a love song, it's a fuck song" mmmmmmmmmmmm I don't forsee that going to the songwriting "Cooperstown" on the first ballot.
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Postby Eyeof » Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:16 am

Yeah Red, but Motley has always been about excess and not taking stuff to serious...

I mean even the the hay day, "She Goes Down", "Slice of your Pie", "Sticky Sweet" and "Rattlesnake Shake" all occupy their best album ever.

They could have written it about Slander..."This ain't a love song...It's a DUMB Fuck song..."...oops..fell of the wagon...
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:24 am

Eyeof wrote:
I mean even the the hay day, "She Goes Down", "Slice of your Pie", "Sticky Sweet" and "Rattlesnake Shake" all occupy their best album ever.


I thought the lyrics were better written in the above, more along the lines of sly puns and sexual innuendos than just saying, "I'm a fighting, poor, scrapping, rocking, fucking, drug doing, lazy piece of white trash laying on the sofa"
It's too literal.
But again I am giving leeway because it;s a concept album tying into The Dirt.

PS, How about Steven Tyler on Sticky Sweet, Jack Blades on She Goes Down and the whole Skid Row band on Time For Change? 8)
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Postby Eyeof » Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:28 am

Hey that Bryan Adams screaming on "Sticky Sweet" as well...
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:39 am

Yep.
What a time that would have been to be a janitor at The Warehouse Studio in Vancouver spring/early summer '89.
The Skids, BA, Damn Yankees, Aerosmith all recording there...motley has them all in to do gues vox spots...totally cool.

I think Tommy Shaw sang, too.
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Postby Slander » Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:44 am

Saint John wrote:Motherfucker Of The Year and SOLA really rock.


Gimme a break..Saw them on Letterman. They have nice energy but damn there's some filler on that album. Then again filler is typical of Crue.
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Postby Eyeof » Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:44 am

you mean Frankie's good, close personal friend Tommy Shaw?
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Postby Irwin M Fletcher » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:01 am

is there new album better than new tattoo? 8)
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Postby Eyeof » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:04 am

I think so yes...

Tattoo was good in places...it also has some of the same flaws as Tattoo as well...
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Postby Irwin M Fletcher » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:06 am

Eyeof wrote:I think so yes...

Tattoo was good in places...it also has some of the same flaws as Tattoo as well...


i always loved the 94 motley crue album eye, and i eventually liked generation swine after about 50 listens! lol
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:06 am

Many flaws, indeed on Tattoo.
BUT: Punched In The Teeth By Love is stronger than anything on SOLA, and Dragstrip Superstar and Fake top a lot of SOLA.


The DVD of that tour also kicks the ass of Carnival Of Sins.
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Postby Irwin M Fletcher » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:19 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Many flaws, indeed on Tattoo.
BUT: Punched In The Teeth By Love is stronger than anything on SOLA, and Dragstrip Superstar and Fake top a lot of SOLA.


The DVD of that tour also kicks the ass of Carnival Of Sins.


anyone else like the '94 with corabi? fantastic! :D
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Postby Eyeof » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:29 am

Love the Corabi album...FANTASTIC....One of the best rock albums of all the '90's....

Never got the credit it deserved...

I liked Swine as well though...love Afraid...Flush...Kiss the Sky...Liked the redo of Shout...Find Myself..."I'm Sick Mother Fu....."
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Postby Eyeof » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:31 am

I'll give you Fake, but not Punched and definately not Drag Strip....

I also thought Carnival was one of the best concert DVD's ever...

See, we don't always have to agree, like some idiots thing we should...

Did you love Corabi as well?

I wish they had added vince back and kept him as a part time vocal and rhythm guitar....
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Postby Irwin M Fletcher » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:32 am

Eyeof wrote:Love the Corabi album...FANTASTIC....One of the best rock albums of all the '90's....

Never got the credit it deserved...

I liked Swine as well though...love Afraid...Flush...Kiss the Sky...Liked the redo of Shout...Find Myself..."I'm Sick Mother Fu....."


fuck yeh eye!! glad 2 hear other folk like swine and the 94 album! it shud have been a huge hit! just the wrong time eh? i think Corabi is to good to be playing 2nd fiddle to stephen pearcy although i am a huge ratt fan :twisted:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:34 am

I love the Corabi-fronted album.
Some of the best metal of that decade.

I think he's still friends with the band, including Vince, but as far as the staying on as a rythm guy I understand that Mick went all Frankie about the amount of guitar Corabi played on the '94 record so it couldn't work.
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Postby Eyeof » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:38 am

rumor has it that Corabi played a lot of guitar on Swine as well...

I like the vince sound, but song for song, pound for pound no other motley album can stand up to MC 94....
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Postby Irwin M Fletcher » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:41 am

Red13JoePa wrote:I love the Corabi-fronted album.
Some of the best metal of that decade.

I think he's still friends with the band, including Vince, but as far as the staying on as a rythm guy I understand that Mick went all Frankie about the amount of guitar Corabi played on the '94 record so it couldn't work.


i think corabi played more guitar on that 94 album than he let on,lol. i mean, sumtimes it doesn't sound anything like MM! like red said, its a cracking album, undertated! corabi was good in The Scream and Union to :P
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Postby Eyeof » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:31 am

Spun it again during workout today Red...loving it more and more....
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Postby Eyeof » Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:15 pm

Red...two more spins and I'm LOVING it...

Over all better album than G,G,G and Theatre of Pain easily.....

For me it's on par with Swine (which i loved)...and up there with Feelgood...

Of course, I feel that Swine and MC-94 are as good as the Crue gets....

I'm not a huge fan fo Tatoo...(had some moments, but not enough).

I did like the Red, White and Crue stuff as well....Especially Sick Love Song and "If I Die Tomorrow"
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Postby Eyeof » Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:18 pm

also, as singles...

SOLA is really starting to rock for me...it's as classic crue as we have heard since Feelgood...

I'm going to the opening night of Crue fest on Tuesday....My buddy got us passes and we are supposed to have backstage access, but we'll see...

Hell I don't care, i'm just ready to ROCK!

Sure is exciting when bands actually tour and put albums out...maybe Francis is reading this post again and will take note and DO SOMETHING! Anything...if not, my house needs roofing.
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