Anyone feel proud about Journey?

[Rhiannon]

Ahhhhh Frigaaaaa

Said that often, Steve?

Everynight before I cuddle up with my friga doll. I got it from Tito

Hehehehe... Friga doll.
You're too much, man.

[JrnyScarab]

Ahhhhh Frigaaaaa

Said that often, Steve?

Everynight before I cuddle up with my friga doll. I got it from Tito

Are you sure you're cuddling and not sticking pins in that ol' Friga doll?

[stevew2]

Ahhhhh Frigaaaaa

Said that often, Steve?

Everynight before I cuddle up with my friga doll. I got it from Tito

Are you sure you're cuddling and not sticking pins in that ol' Friga doll?

Its a love have relationship, take that Friga

[Rick]

Yep, very much so. For all the wrongs they've perpetrated in the last few years, they're definitely making up for it now. Give a virtually unknown singer from another country the chance of a lifetime, and he's proving it to be a great decision. Soto would have been my first choice, but since that couldn't be, I'm great with the way things are now. They seem to be doing everything right for once.

His given them more publicity then they could have gotten with a singer from the US,and they are milkin it. That is nothing to be proud of. They are doing there job and trying to make as much$$$ as they can,as always. People do that everyday,dosent make them special Im proud to be a fan of there music,but not the band.If I was stranded in the desert and the tour bus was comin up, Id bet ya 3 to 1 the fucker would zoom right on by. Friga likes to drive the bus sometimes, makes him feel like a man HA

Not good to be negative and bitter. How have they ever wronged you?

[strangegrey]

Proud is a little different than Pride, in the context of how I am interpreting the OP question.

I think the idea is 'do you have pride in journey' not 'are you proud of them' like you would be proud of your little boy learning to ride a bike.

With that in mind, I have zero pride in being a journey fan. zero. They've sullied this thing with a whole lot of bad decissions and they're pissing on the legacy with their new choice of singer, now that it's obviously a rip off of the past and not at all an effort to move forward. Fuck them....no pride in being a journey fan. I've been ashamed of being friends with far better people than Neal Schlong and Dunce Friga....

[SF-Dano]

As said, proud is a bit too strong a word. I am happy that they are seeing some amount of success again. I am happy for them and the fact I have new music to listen to from them that I enjoy.

As far as them milking the Arnel factor to make more money. Why not? I think Herbie said it best in BTM. Something like being an unabashed Capitalist and making the most net dollars possible for this band. That is the name of the game here in the US in all walks of life. If you don't like the fact that these guys try to make as much money as possible, then you are no different than the critics and magazines that have been bashing this band for being "corporate" since the 70s and 80s. In some opinions, it may not be right but that's the way it is.

[bluejeangirl76]

Be proud of your personal achievements, your family, your friends, the excellent meal that you made, the size of your junk...but leave it at the door when you are not creatively responsible for the success of a band!

I choose this!!!

DITTO!

Tritto.

[stevew2]

Yep, very much so. For all the wrongs they've perpetrated in the last few years, they're definitely making up for it now. Give a virtually unknown singer from another country the chance of a lifetime, and he's proving it to be a great decision. Soto would have been my first choice, but since that couldn't be, I'm great with the way things are now. They seem to be doing everything right for once.

His given them more publicity then they could have gotten with a singer from the US,and they are milkin it. That is nothing to be proud of. They are doing there job and trying to make as much$$$ as they can,as always. People do that everyday,dosent make them special Im proud to be a fan of there music,but not the band.If I was stranded in the desert and the tour bus was comin up, Id bet ya 3 to 1 the fucker would zoom right on by. Friga likes to drive the bus sometimes, makes him feel like a man HA

Not good to be negative and bitter. How have they ever wronged you?

Read Strangegreys reply. Thants pretty much how I feel not the mention the thousands of dollars I spent to go see them. They destroyed a good singer cause of $$$ ,Then I was fooled that he wasnt really singing in 2005,they got caught, then in 2006 took away the tapes and let him discraced himself and the band in front of thousands, and fucking got away with it.Now they want to come smelling like a rose and calling members of this board alcoholics for telling the truth. Like i said I will see them once,because of the music, and they we be playing in a park with some of the best rollers coasters around.Also, you know Rick the first trouble they have with Arnel it will be the boot, or tapes. Do you really feel "proud' to be a Journey fan?? you know what went down.

[Rick]

Yep, very much so. For all the wrongs they've perpetrated in the last few years, they're definitely making up for it now. Give a virtually unknown singer from another country the chance of a lifetime, and he's proving it to be a great decision. Soto would have been my first choice, but since that couldn't be, I'm great with the way things are now. They seem to be doing everything right for once.

His given them more publicity then they could have gotten with a singer from the US,and they are milkin it. That is nothing to be proud of. They are doing there job and trying to make as much$$$ as they can,as always. People do that everyday,dosent make them special Im proud to be a fan of there music,but not the band.If I was stranded in the desert and the tour bus was comin up, Id bet ya 3 to 1 the fucker would zoom right on by. Friga likes to drive the bus sometimes, makes him feel like a man HA

Not good to be negative and bitter. How have they ever wronged you?

Read Strangegreys reply. Thants pretty much how I feel not the mention the thousands of dollars I spent to go see them. They destroyed a good singer cause of $$$ ,Then I was fooled that he wasnt really singing in 2005,they got caught, then in 2006 took away the tapes and let him discraced himself and the band in front of thousands, and fucking got away with it.Now they want to come smelling like a rose and calling members of this board alcoholics for telling the truth. Like i said I will see them once,because of the music, and they we be playing in a park with some of the best rollers coasters around.Also, you know Rick the first trouble they have with Arnel it will be the boot, or tapes. Do you really feel "proud' to be a Journey fan?? you know what went down.

Frank used to work for them, so he's got his reasons. I wasn't actually around during tapegate, so I'll give you that, and as bad of a comment as it was, the alcoholics comment was directed at one person in general, and you and I both know who. It was damn sure a fucked up thing to say. I'm still proud, as a Journey fan, of what they've accomplished since. Not forgiving the moronic shit they've done though.

[ScarabGator]

The Gator Nation is extremely proud of Journey and the consensus is Neal Schon is a genious.

[NealIsGod]

The Gator Nation is extremely proud of Journey and the consensus is Neal Schon is a genious.

Just a genius?

[ScarabGator]

The Gator Nation is extremely proud of Journey and the consensus is Neal Schon is a genious.

Just a genius?

A genious, a guitar God, and a real ladies man!!!!

[RocknRoll]

Be proud of your personal achievements, your family, your friends, the excellent meal that you made, the size of your junk...but leave it at the door when you are not creatively responsible for the success of a band!

I choose this!!!

DITTO!

Tritto.

Can I be a Fritto? Make that Frito.... Where's the bean dip?

My biggest pet peeve on the Journey forum: References to "our band", "our boys".... drives me nuts. Nobody owns the band, but the band.

[Matthew]

I definitely felt proud when I heard that Journey went straight in at Number 4 on the Billboard chart. God knows why...but I did.

[classicstyxfan]

No

Its kinda like a sports fan that says "oh WE gonna to beat the Crimson Tide (or the cavaliers /cubs/ cowboys - whatever ) this week , cause its a big game for US and WE'RE reeally playing great . "

I always tell those fans Fuck Off, YOU aint on the team, yer just the stinkin talentless, fan with a huge ass beer gut who buys the bubble gum cards, and who would get stuffed for a five yard loss and fumble if you were allowed onto the field of play

Yes I've bought all the Journey buble gum packs and if they came out with one of them Journey foam hands with the big ass finger making the number one sign, it probably buy that too, but I am not Journey, and I aint proud . I just buy the shit and listen to it!

I agree with the sports analogy.....with the exception for those of us who paid money to buy a share of stock in ( the finest organization in all of pro sports ) The Green Bay Packers ! the share isnt worth much monetarily, but it does give me the right to make statements such as the ones above

[Calbear94]

Geez...some people are real downers. I suppose the original poster could have phrased the question differently:

Are you proud to be a Journey fan after all this time?

It really gets my goat when people criticize others for fan adolation. Who the hell is anyone else to tell me how to feel about MY bands, MY teams, or anything else for that matter?

I don't go off on others for being jaded or bitter fans.

What is the problem in some fans enjoying Journey's recent revival? If you support a band through thick and thin for so long, why is it not OK to revel in it a bit?

[conversationpc]

In a word, no.
These people are not our friends.
Be content to enjoy the music, and channel whatever emotional attachements you may have onto a band more deserving (or better yet, go hug grandma).

Agreed and

[stevew2]

Yep, very much so. For all the wrongs they've perpetrated in the last few years, they're definitely making up for it now. Give a virtually unknown singer from another country the chance of a lifetime, and he's proving it to be a great decision. Soto would have been my first choice, but since that couldn't be, I'm great with the way things are now. They seem to be doing everything right for once.

His given them more publicity then they could have gotten with a singer from the US,and they are milkin it. That is nothing to be proud of. They are doing there job and trying to make as much$$$ as they can,as always. People do that everyday,dosent make them special Im proud to be a fan of there music,but not the band.If I was stranded in the desert and the tour bus was comin up, Id bet ya 3 to 1 the fucker would zoom right on by. Friga likes to drive the bus sometimes, makes him feel like a man HA

Not good to be negative and bitter. How have they ever wronged you?

Read Strangegreys reply. Thants pretty much how I feel not the mention the thousands of dollars I spent to go see them. They destroyed a good singer cause of $$$ ,Then I was fooled that he wasnt really singing in 2005,they got caught, then in 2006 took away the tapes and let him discraced himself and the band in front of thousands, and fucking got away with it.Now they want to come smelling like a rose and calling members of this board alcoholics for telling the truth. Like i said I will see them once,because of the music, and they we be playing in a park with some of the best rollers coasters around.Also, you know Rick the first trouble they have with Arnel it will be the boot, or tapes. Do you really feel "proud' to be a Journey fan?? you know what went down.

Frank used to work for them, so he's got his reasons. I wasn't actually around during tapegate, so I'll give you that, and as bad of a comment as it was, the alcoholics comment was directed at one person in general, and you and I both know who. It was damn sure a fucked up thing to say. I'm still proud, as a Journey fan, of what they've accomplished since. Not forgiving the moronic shit they've done though.

You wasnt hear around tapegate, it was good you wasnt, sad day for a Journey fan like you. i have a virus attacking my computor right now }wonder why?? I know about Frank. I jumped on the Journey bus again in 2002, I dont expect you to know how I feel, They trashed Steve A and they will do the same to Arnel,you wont be so proud Enjoy the concerts for the time being, just dont get to attached to the lead singer. read this Tito

[nutz4Neal]

I'm very proud of this band and their recent accomplishments with their newest CD, Revelation.

And IMHO, it's a gooooood one...WOOT!

[stevew2]

I'm very proud of this band and their recent accomplishments with their newest CD, Revelation.

And IMHO, it's a gooooood one...WOOT!

I do like the new Cd by the way

[livin2do]

I'd say my emotions are mixed.

I love the fact that there are some decent songs with the unmistakable Journey stamp on the new album. Where was this writing on Generations? But, I hate the fact that they dicked over two guys who were more than capable of doing a good job on the same material.

I love that they are getting press for the album and tour, but I hate that the reason is a gimmick that they used You Tube to find their new singer.

The band has had some world class talent and individuals at the microphone, and I think they found another gem in Arnel. But I hate that they have effectively chewed up and spit out anyone hired to front the Journey machine. At least when Augeri was in the band, I felt like Journey was still a "band". Since they parted ways, they are more of a business now than ever, and at the end of the day, I think they'll just call 2008 a "good year." I don't believe for one minute that Arnel's position is secure, so I can't really be proud of anything they've done apart from writing and recording some good songs.

[donnaplease]

Frank used to work for them, so he's got his reasons. I wasn't actually around during tapegate, so I'll give you that, and as bad of a comment as it was, the alcoholics comment was directed at one person in general, and you and I both know who. It was damn sure a fucked up thing to say. I'm still proud, as a Journey fan, of what they've accomplished since. Not forgiving the moronic shit they've done though.

Rick, I understand what you're trying to say here, but I gotta tell ya I think you are exactly forgiving the moronic shit they've done. The simple fact that you went to Vegas (and wherever else), and bought the CD, and come here singing their praises proves that you have done as much. It doesn't seem conceivable to me that you could be proud of where they're at now, despite the road they've taken to get there...

As much as I LOVE the Journey from the Perry days (and although brief, the Soto contribution), I am not proud of them. In fact, I'm ashamed to tell people of all the bullshit that has happened over the past 2 years. I am hopeful that they will go out in a positive way, I'm just not sure what that is yet. I guess that's what I keep nosing around here waiting to see.

[stevew2]

I'd say my emotions are mixed.

I love the fact that there are some decent songs with the unmistakable Journey stamp on the new album. Where was this writing on Generations? But, I hate the fact that they dicked over two guys who were more than capable of doing a good job on the same material.

I love that they are getting press for the album and tour, but I hate that the reason is a gimmick that they used You Tube to find their new singer.

The band has had some world class talent and individuals at the microphone, and I think they found another gem in Arnel. But I hate that they have effectively chewed up and spit out anyone hired to front the Journey machine. At least when Augeri was in the band, I felt like Journey was still a "band". Since they parted ways, they are more of a business now than ever, and at the end of the day, I think they'll just call 2008 a "good year." I don't believe for one minute that Arnel's position is secure, so I can't really be proud of anything they've done apart from writing and recording some good songs.

You summed it up for me to

[Rick]

Frank used to work for them, so he's got his reasons. I wasn't actually around during tapegate, so I'll give you that, and as bad of a comment as it was, the alcoholics comment was directed at one person in general, and you and I both know who. It was damn sure a fucked up thing to say. I'm still proud, as a Journey fan, of what they've accomplished since. Not forgiving the moronic shit they've done though.

Rick, I understand what you're trying to say here, but I gotta tell ya I think you are exactly forgiving the moronic shit they've done. The simple fact that you went to Vegas (and wherever else), and bought the CD, and come here singing their praises proves that you have done as much. It doesn't seem conceivable to me that you could be proud of where they're at now, despite the road they've taken to get there...

As much as I LOVE the Journey from the Perry days (and although brief, the Soto contribution), I am not proud of them. In fact, I'm ashamed to tell people of all the bullshit that has happened over the past 2 years. I am hopeful that they will go out in a positive way, I'm just not sure what that is yet. I guess that's what I keep nosing around here waiting to see.

I don't stay mad long. Helps keep me sane.

[donnaplease]

Frank used to work for them, so he's got his reasons. I wasn't actually around during tapegate, so I'll give you that, and as bad of a comment as it was, the alcoholics comment was directed at one person in general, and you and I both know who. It was damn sure a fucked up thing to say. I'm still proud, as a Journey fan, of what they've accomplished since. Not forgiving the moronic shit they've done though.

Rick, I understand what you're trying to say here, but I gotta tell ya I think you are exactly forgiving the moronic shit they've done. The simple fact that you went to Vegas (and wherever else), and bought the CD, and come here singing their praises proves that you have done as much. It doesn't seem conceivable to me that you could be proud of where they're at now, despite the road they've taken to get there...

As much as I LOVE the Journey from the Perry days (and although brief, the Soto contribution), I am not proud of them. In fact, I'm ashamed to tell people of all the bullshit that has happened over the past 2 years. I am hopeful that they will go out in a positive way, I'm just not sure what that is yet. I guess that's what I keep nosing around here waiting to see.

I don't stay mad long. Helps keep me sane.

Sanity is very over-rated...