The Rolie Perry Era

by **StoneCold** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:21 am

The back & forth between them is some of my favorite Journey. Musically probably their best moments.

Someday Soon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paUQQRFsMp4&

by **RisingForce73** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:32 am

StoneCold wrote:The back & forth between them is some of my favorite Journey. Musically probably their best moments.

Someday Soon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paUQQRFsMp4&

Well-played.

Four of my favorite Journey songs:
- Feeling That Way
- Anytime
- Just The Same Way
- Someday Soon

Wish we would have had more of it.

Here's a recent live performance with Gregg Rolie and Kevin Chalfant doing "Just The Same Way," just like they used to do live in their days with The Storm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwnD23Grl7U

by **ProgRocker53** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:35 am

Gregg Rolie is the TRUTH.

1975-1980 contained quite a few wonderful rock moments at the fingers and microphone of Ole Gregg.

by **Deb** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:39 am

StoneCold wrote:The back & forth between them is some of my favorite Journey. Musically probably their best moments.

Someday Soon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paUQQRFsMp4&

Great stuff! Someday Soon and Just The Same Way are definitely my favorites when it comes to Rollie/Perry vocals.

Perry's vocals on Someday Soon......at around 1:12......when he comes in with "all we do is tryyyyyyy" sound almost angelic, contrasting with Rollie's. Great vocals together.

by **Aaron** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:56 am

That is definitely my favorite era. Rolie rocks for sure!

by **Rick** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:05 pm

Just The Same Way is my favorite from that era.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDEMx1umDgc

by **Ehwmatt** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:08 pm

I think if Rolie would have stayed on board Journey would have kept a dynamic much closer to Toto's. Two lead singers and great varied songwriting. I also think Perry would have stayed on if Rolie were there... more songs would have been written with shared vocals and it would have saved Perry's voice and also given him a cushion in performing and from scrutiny in his later years as his voice "matured" into the deeper, raspier range he assumed. Rolie/Perry era of Journey = the best era for me.

by **Ehwmatt** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:12 pm

Rick wrote:Just The Same Way is my favorite from that era.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDEMx1umDgc

So good... Great meat n potatoes rock n roll as far as I'm concerned. No fancy synths or processed guitars, just great crunch, driving piano, drumming, groove, and excellent vocals from both men.

by **Deb** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:30 pm

Rick wrote:Just The Same Way is my favorite from that era.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDEMx1umDgc

Darn it Rick, tell me how you get dvd stuff up on youtube?! I have an old version of Just The Same Way they did on a German show, that I don't see on youtube. Would love to share it. I do have Nero? Do you have to crop it out of the dvd or shrink it or what???? Got a ton of stuff I could share....... PM me, if it's not too complicated.

by **RisingForce73** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:36 pm

Rick wrote:Just The Same Way is my favorite from that era.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDEMx1umDgc

I would have to agree.

That video is from one of Rolie's last shows before he punched out.

by **StoneCold** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:12 pm

RisingForce73 wrote:
Rick wrote:Just The Same Way is my favorite from that era.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDEMx1umDgc

I would have to agree.

That video is from one of Rolie's last shows before he punched out.

Great clip, ShootemUp!

That's one their best for sure. Greg "mutton chop" Rolie sounding excellent.

Love Schon's over a minute outro and the Perry/Schon "duet" at the end.

by **bluejeangirl76** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:04 pm

Aaron wrote:That is definitely my favorite era.

Mine too!!

Rick wrote:Just The Same Way is my favorite from that era.

Mine too!!

by **Rick** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:43 pm

Deb wrote:
Rick wrote:Just The Same Way is my favorite from that era.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDEMx1umDgc

Darn it Rick, tell me how you get dvd stuff up on youtube?! I have an old version of Just The Same Way they did on a German show, that I don't see on youtube. Would love to share it. I do have Nero? Do you have to crop it out of the dvd or shrink it or what???? Got a ton of stuff I could share....... PM me, if it's not too complicated.

I'll build a webpage that shows how I do it. I'll post a link when it's ready.

by **Rick** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:25 pm

And here it is. I hope this helps.

http://home.tx.rr.com/rick/Youtube/Youtuber.html

by **Michigan Girl** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:53 pm

StoneCold wrote:The back & forth between them is some of my favorite Journey. Musically probably their best moments.

TOTALLY AGREE!!!!! :wink:

by **Deb** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:55 pm

Rick wrote:And here it is. I hope this helps.

http://home.tx.rr.com/rick/Youtube/Youtuber.html

You rock, Rick! I'll check this out tonight!

If this works, you'll have created a monster....... :lol:

by **Aaron** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:48 am

Dude, that's a good analysis. I agree with what you're saying. The Rolie Perry era ROCKED!

But just think, if Rolie was still around we wouldn't have Princess Friga today. :roll:

Ehwmatt wrote:I think if Rolie would have stayed on board Journey would have kept a dynamic much closer to Toto's. Two lead singers and great varied songwriting. I also think Perry would have stayed on if Rolie were there... more songs would have been written with shared vocals and it would have saved Perry's voice and also given him a cushion in performing and from scrutiny in his later years as his voice "matured" into the deeper, raspier range he assumed. Rolie/Perry era of Journey = the best era for me.

by **StoneCold** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:17 am

Rick wrote:And here it is. I hope this helps.

http://home.tx.rr.com/rick/Youtube/Youtuber.html

Nice work there.

Deserves a thread of its own with a tag "If this helps you, please consider donating what you can to the Melodic Rock site. Please click this button."

Soon you'll be the resident MR techie!

by **Rick** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:26 am

StoneCold wrote:
Rick wrote:And here it is. I hope this helps.

http://home.tx.rr.com/rick/Youtube/Youtuber.html

Nice work there.

Deserves a thread of its own with a tag "If this helps you, please consider donating what you can to the Melodic Rock site. Please click this button."

Soon you'll be the resident MR techie!

That's too much work. I just like to play. :lol:

by **Ehwmatt** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:25 am

Aaron wrote:Dude, that's a good analysis. I agree with what you're saying. The Rolie Perry era ROCKED!

But just think, if Rolie was still around we wouldn't have Princess Friga today.

Thanks man. I really think we could have had a Perry with longevity this way too. Plus, if his voice couldn't handle some of the tweeter-frying songs anymore, then all they had to do was just stick in another duet or Rolie-driven song to replace it in the live set. Oh well.

by **escapefan** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:09 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Aaron wrote:Dude, that's a good analysis. I agree with what you're saying. The Rolie Perry era ROCKED!

But just think, if Rolie was still around we wouldn't have Princess Friga today.

Thanks man. I really think we could have had a Perry with longevity this way too. Plus, if his voice couldn't handle some of the tweeter-frying songs anymore, then all they had to do was just stick in another duet or Rolie-driven song to replace it in the live set. Oh well.

Okay I am new to the boards and catching up on Journey. Why do you call him Friga? :?:

by **ProgRocker53** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:15 am

escapefan wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Aaron wrote:Dude, that's a good analysis. I agree with what you're saying. The Rolie Perry era ROCKED!

But just think, if Rolie was still around we wouldn't have Princess Friga today.

Thanks man. I really think we could have had a Perry with longevity this way too. Plus, if his voice couldn't handle some of the tweeter-frying songs anymore, then all they had to do was just stick in another duet or Rolie-driven song to replace it in the live set. Oh well.

Okay I am new to the boards and catching up on Journey. Why do you call him Friga?

Jonathan Cain's birth name is Jonathan Friga.

People who aren't big fans of Cain are the main ones who call him that, it seems.

by **S2M** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:21 am

Yep....Frig & Fro are to blame.....

by **Matthew** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:35 am

Ehwmatt wrote:I think if Rolie would have stayed on board Journey would have kept a dynamic much closer to Toto's. Two lead singers and great varied songwriting. I also think Perry would have stayed on if Rolie were there... more songs would have been written with shared vocals and it would have saved Perry's voice and also given him a cushion in performing and from scrutiny in his later years as his voice "matured" into the deeper, raspier range he assumed. Rolie/Perry era of Journey = the best era for me.

Good analysis...except that Perry and Rolie didn't like each other...and Perry was too extraordinary a singer to ever fit into a Toto-style rotation system for long. Toto were more of a collective of session guys and I always thought they lacked the personality and grandeur of Journey partly for this reason....

by **StoneCold** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:03 pm

Matthew wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:I think if Rolie would have stayed on board Journey would have kept a dynamic much closer to Toto's. Two lead singers and great varied songwriting. I also think Perry would have stayed on if Rolie were there... more songs would have been written with shared vocals and it would have saved Perry's voice and also given him a cushion in performing and from scrutiny in his later years as his voice "matured" into the deeper, raspier range he assumed. Rolie/Perry era of Journey = the best era for me.

Good analysis...except that Perry and Rolie didn't like each other...and Perry was too extraordinary a singer to ever fit into a Toto-style rotation system for long. Toto were more of a collective of session guys and I always thought they lacked the personality and grandeur of Journey partly for this reason....

None of the band wanted SP. "They wanted to be successful without a new lead singer."

It's one thing to tour and perform going on 10+ years with a bunch of guys you like but if it becomes a struggle which it did, there wasn't any joy in it anymore for him. It was going to change one way or another.

I wouldn't mind Rolie singing with them again before they close up shop.

by **Rick** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:07 pm

StoneCold wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:I think if Rolie would have stayed on board Journey would have kept a dynamic much closer to Toto's. Two lead singers and great varied songwriting. I also think Perry would have stayed on if Rolie were there... more songs would have been written with shared vocals and it would have saved Perry's voice and also given him a cushion in performing and from scrutiny in his later years as his voice "matured" into the deeper, raspier range he assumed. Rolie/Perry era of Journey = the best era for me.

Good analysis...except that Perry and Rolie didn't like each other...and Perry was too extraordinary a singer to ever fit into a Toto-style rotation system for long. Toto were more of a collective of session guys and I always thought they lacked the personality and grandeur of Journey partly for this reason....

None of the band wanted SP. "They wanted to be successful without a new lead singer."

"I never really felt like part of the band." Kinda makes sense when you look at it from that perspective.

by **Rhiannon** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:12 pm

Rick wrote:
StoneCold wrote:None of the band wanted SP. "They wanted to be successful without a new lead singer."

"I never really felt like part of the band." Kinda makes sense when you look at it from that perspective.

Still reeks of self-pity and malcontent.

If he felt like that, he chose to. I think.

by **Since 78** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:15 pm

ProgRocker53 wrote:
escapefan wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Aaron wrote:Dude, that's a good analysis. I agree with what you're saying. The Rolie Perry era ROCKED!

But just think, if Rolie was still around we wouldn't have Princess Friga today.

Thanks man. I really think we could have had a Perry with longevity this way too. Plus, if his voice couldn't handle some of the tweeter-frying songs anymore, then all they had to do was just stick in another duet or Rolie-driven song to replace it in the live set. Oh well.

Okay I am new to the boards and catching up on Journey. Why do you call him Friga?

Jonathan Cain's birth name is Jonathan Friga.

People who aren't big fans of Cain are the main ones who call him that, it seems.

I think on the writing credits for OTY . It says J. Friga.

by **Glenn** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:33 pm

Rolie for President in 08'

Then...he can hire Friga as an intern and shove a cigar up his ass.

Perry....ugh...

Love the voice...Love the talent...Love the songwriting....THE voice of classic Journey.

BUT...fuck him... I hope to never see him grace the stage with Journey again. stay home and pet your cats.

The Rolie/Perry thing could have worked....Goof for Rolie to throw his middle finger in Perry's face and walk away when he did.

In comes Friga...Open Arms .... Thanks for turning a waltz into a rock song......

But hey...Escape and Frontiers are great......ROR...well...um....

The Rolie era will always be my favorite era....

Make a Rolie era GH cd for yourself....Journey was a ROCK band ......

I'll shut up....I could go on and on....

Rolie friggin kicks ass.

by **Don** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:40 pm

Sony really needs to release the Osaka Departure Show on DVD. I have the boot but I'll pay 80 bucks for an import version if it comes out. I have the official DVD of the Carpenters live in Japan 1974 and it's worth every penny over the bootleg copy.

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