Steve Perry's feelings on Journey chart success

[Moose]

Journey was what took him off of the turkey farm. I am positive he still has an emotional attachment to that and to see them flying high again without him must sting a bit.

Maybe I am missing something, but Journey is flying high again?

I have yet to hear a single song from Revelation on the radio yet. Aside from a brief promotional campaign that saw an appearance on Ellen and that CBS Sunday morning show, I don’t know that the public has any clue who Arnel is.

I don’t see how this could be construed as a success story. Maybe from the few people on this board, but that’s about it.

Hmm... gold record and NWA is topping the playlists at Cleveland's 98.5 WNCX. That's some decent success in my neck of the woods. Maybe they aren't playing Revs on the stations around you, but the album is selling for sure.

I live between two of the bigger cities in the country (NY and Philadelphia), and none of the stations are playing it. I wish that weren’t so, but it is. Thank God for my Ipod.

[Ehwmatt]

Journey was what took him off of the turkey farm. I am positive he still has an emotional attachment to that and to see them flying high again without him must sting a bit.

Maybe I am missing something, but Journey is flying high again?

I have yet to hear a single song from Revelation on the radio yet. Aside from a brief promotional campaign that saw an appearance on Ellen and that CBS Sunday morning show, I don’t know that the public has any clue who Arnel is.

I don’t see how this could be construed as a success story. Maybe from the few people on this board, but that’s about it.

Hmm... gold record and NWA is topping the playlists at Cleveland's 98.5 WNCX. That's some decent success in my neck of the woods. Maybe they aren't playing Revs on the stations around you, but the album is selling for sure.

I live between two of the bigger cities in the country (NY and Philadelphia), and none of the stations are playing it. I wish that weren’t so, but it is. Thank God for my Ipod.

I definitely freaked out when I heard NWA for the first time on the radio... after all the time I spent wondering/lamenting the fact that I never once heard Higher Place on the radio or anything like that...

[Don]

Maybe you should consider how they feel about him. Last thing I saw in print from Neal had this to say about Perry...


"Fuck him".

Neal said it loud and clear... I am under the impression that at least Neal feels that Steve held them back for less than honorable reasons hence he comments about Steve getting paid despite the fact he is not there. I think Neal ending that interview with hardy "Fuck him" was his way of saying "free at last, thank god almighty we are free at last !

I would be willing to bet that Steve is not happy about their "new lease on life". He is such a drama queen as anyone can plainly see from his interviews so I am sure he is feeling a little left out.. Journey was what took him off of the turkey farm. I am positive he still has an emotional attachment to that and to see them flying high again without him must sting a bit. People that were not fans before are seeing them as a new band. They see Arnel and accept him as "the voice" because for the new generation of fans he is. Perry, oh that was guy from the 80's.. The only thing stronger that Perry in this whole can of worms are the songs. They will never erase Perry from our minds however Joe Bob consumer the casual fan doesnt give a shit... The re-recording of the GH as more than a show off Arnel project. I think it was an attempt to get Arnels voice heard over Perry's.. To push Perry aside in otherwords.

It's not working.

It won't ever work.

Sorry, AP is no SP. Period.

Agreed.

For our generation, agreed.
But for teens and young adults that grew up on grunge and its aftermath I'm not so sure. As much as some would wish, a large majority of people under 25 don't know who Steve Perry is, or for that matter, Brad Delp or Lou Gramm. There will be a few who know of him but don't try to paint that as the majority. They have heard of Journey, not, Journey featuring Steve Perry. When my son and his friends chill out watching youtube videos of Boston with Michael Sweet or Foreigner with Kelly Hanson, they don't give a shit who the lead singer is, all they know is it sounds cool coming from a bunch of old farts. This is the ipod market that acts are banking on, not just a bunch of old diehards sitting up on Ruby Ridge screaming fraud.

[Matthew]

People that were not fans before are seeing them as a new band. They see Arnel and accept him as "the voice" because for the new generation of fans he is. Perry, oh that was guy from the 80's.. The only thing stronger that Perry in this whole can of worms are the songs. They will never erase Perry from our minds however Joe Bob consumer the casual fan doesnt give a shit...

LD - isn't it true though that the new generation of fans has actually come from the use of classsic Journey material on The Sopranos, The Simpsons, Laguna Beach, Family Guy, Scrubs and Monster? And from the heavy airplay the band's old hits gets on classic rock radio?

I'm not sure we can credit Revelation with Journey's popularity with younger audiences...

[Matthew]

For our generation, agreed.
But for teens and young adults that grew up on grunge and its aftermath I'm not so sure. As much as some would wish, a large majority of people under 25 don't know who Steve Perry is, or for that matter, Brad Delp or Lou Gramm. There will be a few who know of him but don't try to paint that as the majority. They have heard of Journey, not, Journey featuring Steve Perry. When my son and his friends chill out watching youtube videos of Boston with Michael Sweet or Foreigner with Kelly Hanson, they don't give a shit who the lead singer is, all they know is it sounds cool coming from a bunch of old farts. This is the ipod market that acts are banking on, not just a bunch of old diehards sitting up on Ruby Ridge screaming fraud.

Gunbot - it's true that my brother who is 22 had heard of Journey but not Steve Perry. But equally he was perfectly capable of noticing the drop in quality when he saw or heard anything the band has done without Perry. And again - he'd get why Lou Gramm was the superior singer to Hansen. It doesn't follow that just because he's young he has no ability to discern the blatantly obvious.

[Don]

For our generation, agreed.
But for teens and young adults that grew up on grunge and its aftermath I'm not so sure. As much as some would wish, a large majority of people under 25 don't know who Steve Perry is, or for that matter, Brad Delp or Lou Gramm. There will be a few who know of him but don't try to paint that as the majority. They have heard of Journey, not, Journey featuring Steve Perry. When my son and his friends chill out watching youtube videos of Boston with Michael Sweet or Foreigner with Kelly Hanson, they don't give a shit who the lead singer is, all they know is it sounds cool coming from a bunch of old farts. This is the ipod market that acts are banking on, not just a bunch of old diehards sitting up on Ruby Ridge screaming fraud.

Gunbot - it's true that my brother who is 22 had heard of Journey but not Steve Perry. But equally he was perfectly capable of noticing the drop in quality when he saw or heard anything the band has done without Perry. And again - he'd get why Lou Gramm was the superior singer to Hansen. It doesn't follow that just because he's young he has no ability to discern the blatantly obvious.

Of course there are young people that recognise quality vocals, but I really don't think the bar is set that high anymore. Except for Leona Lewis, I haven't been impressed with any of the new singers in todays market. I feel the effects of grunge are still being felt in the industry. When it comes to rock, the era of the strong tenor vocalist seems to be over. I'm not basing this on what our melodicrock types consider quality but what the industry will sell to their new generation
customers. My son loves mixing together music and recognises what an outstanding vocalist Perry was but he just sees him as a member of the band. When I play a JSS boot or the Arnel led concert, he likes them all. I guess what I'm saying is with the outlets kids have today, the quality issue isn't a big deal.

[Shadowsong]

It's all a matter of personal preference.
some of the crap they sell (ooops don't do that anymore either)
download today is mind warping.

Alot of what makes a voice enjoyable
is the singers ability to make you feel.

Steve Perry could emote.
& isn't that what we really want when we listen to music?

[Don]

It's all a matter of personal preference.
some of the crap they sell (ooops don't do that anymore either)
download today is mind warping.

Alot of what makes a voice enjoyable
is the singers ability to make you feel.

Steve Perry could emote.
& isn't that what we really want when we listen to music?

EMOTE this has got to be a chic thing

[squirt1]

Gunbot- do your parental duty ! Have them listen to the old and maybe they will decide not to pay more $$$ for less. My 26-40 yr olds were raised on the real music and they know it.

[Don]

Gunbot- do your parental duty ! Have them listen to the old and maybe they will decide not to pay more $$$ for less. My 26-40 yr olds were raised on the real music and they know it.

My kid is journeyed out. He has sat through every dvd (pro and boot) from departure to Tokyo 83 with Steve to Augeri to JSS to Arnel. Groups like Carnifex, All Shall Perish and Suicide Silence is more his style of music at this moment =)
What can I say? My parents didn't get into half the stuff I listened to (Adam and the Ants, Bow Wow Wow) and now it's my turn to scratch my head and go, What the heck?

[bionic]

How do you think Steve Perry feels about Journey's newfound chart success? Since Steve's Departure (ouch) from the band, Journey have toured relentlessy, usually attracting decent attendance figures, and have regained a decent foothold in Europe. However, Journey has pretty much flown under the radar in terms of American chart success, until now. Steve has, at times, has also made some less than flattering remarks about his ex - bandmate's efforts to carry the torch without him - mentioning the hiring of 'sound - alike' singers and stating that he does not know the names of the singers who have fronted the band since he left. He must surely know the name of Arnel at his point. I remember reading an article, just after TBF was released, in which Steve was quoted as saying something along the lines of 'when I got the call that the album had gone into the charts at number 3, I was jumping for joy around my office.' Now, for the first time, Steve is seeing Journey riding high in the Billboard charts, without him at the helm. How do you suppose he feels about this - envious? Indifferent? Happy for Neal and co? Discuss.

Lets not forget that a lot of people bought this because of the greatest hits redone cd,mostly co-written by Perry i might add,the band use most of the Perry era material live and to boost their new cd they use his stuff again

[Maui Tom]

How do you think Steve Perry feels about Journey's newfound chart success? Since Steve's Departure (ouch) from the band, Journey have toured relentlessy, usually attracting decent attendance figures, and have regained a decent foothold in Europe. However, Journey has pretty much flown under the radar in terms of American chart success, until now. Steve has, at times, has also made some less than flattering remarks about his ex - bandmate's efforts to carry the torch without him - mentioning the hiring of 'sound - alike' singers and stating that he does not know the names of the singers who have fronted the band since he left. He must surely know the name of Arnel at his point. I remember reading an article, just after TBF was released, in which Steve was quoted as saying something along the lines of 'when I got the call that the album had gone into the charts at number 3, I was jumping for joy around my office.' Now, for the first time, Steve is seeing Journey riding high in the Billboard charts, without him at the helm. How do you suppose he feels about this - envious? Indifferent? Happy for Neal and co? Discuss.

Lets not forget that a lot of people bought this because of the greatest hits redone cd,mostly co-written by Perry i might add,the band use most of the Perry era material live and to boost their new cd they use his stuff again

at last count SEVEN people bought this for the re records....

[Matthew]

How do you think Steve Perry feels about Journey's newfound chart success? Since Steve's Departure (ouch) from the band, Journey have toured relentlessy, usually attracting decent attendance figures, and have regained a decent foothold in Europe. However, Journey has pretty much flown under the radar in terms of American chart success, until now. Steve has, at times, has also made some less than flattering remarks about his ex - bandmate's efforts to carry the torch without him - mentioning the hiring of 'sound - alike' singers and stating that he does not know the names of the singers who have fronted the band since he left. He must surely know the name of Arnel at his point. I remember reading an article, just after TBF was released, in which Steve was quoted as saying something along the lines of 'when I got the call that the album had gone into the charts at number 3, I was jumping for joy around my office.' Now, for the first time, Steve is seeing Journey riding high in the Billboard charts, without him at the helm. How do you suppose he feels about this - envious? Indifferent? Happy for Neal and co? Discuss.

Lets not forget that a lot of people bought this because of the greatest hits redone cd,mostly co-written by Perry i might add,the band use most of the Perry era material live and to boost their new cd they use his stuff again

at last count SEVEN people bought this for the re records....

It wouldn't have even been in stock without the re-records.....

[Maui Tom]

How do you think Steve Perry feels about Journey's newfound chart success? Since Steve's Departure (ouch) from the band, Journey have toured relentlessy, usually attracting decent attendance figures, and have regained a decent foothold in Europe. However, Journey has pretty much flown under the radar in terms of American chart success, until now. Steve has, at times, has also made some less than flattering remarks about his ex - bandmate's efforts to carry the torch without him - mentioning the hiring of 'sound - alike' singers and stating that he does not know the names of the singers who have fronted the band since he left. He must surely know the name of Arnel at his point. I remember reading an article, just after TBF was released, in which Steve was quoted as saying something along the lines of 'when I got the call that the album had gone into the charts at number 3, I was jumping for joy around my office.' Now, for the first time, Steve is seeing Journey riding high in the Billboard charts, without him at the helm. How do you suppose he feels about this - envious? Indifferent? Happy for Neal and co? Discuss.

Lets not forget that a lot of people bought this because of the greatest hits redone cd,mostly co-written by Perry i might add,the band use most of the Perry era material live and to boost their new cd they use his stuff again

at last count SEVEN people bought this for the re records....

It wouldn't have even been in stock without the re-records.....

not disputing that...

[SusieP]

I guess what I'm saying is with the outlets kids have today, the quality issue isn't a big deal.

True dat. How can it be when they are hearing stuff through tinny laptop speakers and trebly ipod earphones.
They think that is the only way music can sound.
I am sad that they are not hearing the true beauty of all the instruments and vocals through a fabulous sound system.
I think also they lose a lot because they don't have the cover art and sleeve notes to read. That's half the fun lost right there.

[Matthew]

I guess what I'm saying is with the outlets kids have today, the quality issue isn't a big deal.

True dat. How can it be when they are hearing stuff through tinny laptop speakers and trebly ipod earphones.
They think that is the only way music can sound.
I am sad that they are not hearing the true beauty of all the instruments and vocals through a fabulous sound system.
I think also they lose a lot because they don't have the cover art and sleeve notes to read. That's half the fun lost right there.

Oh..I don't know Susie...a crystal clear MP3 file on an iPod beats a scratched old lump of vinyl on an 1980s turntable in terms of sound quality. And the old tapes played on on a Sony Walkman often sounded pretty lousy in comparison to anything around today as well...

Also..I wouldn't say that a few chavs playing music on their phones in shopping centres are necessarily representative of today's youth...

I do miss the old gatefold covers though....

[SusieP]

I guess what I'm saying is with the outlets kids have today, the quality issue isn't a big deal.

True dat. How can it be when they are hearing stuff through tinny laptop speakers and trebly ipod earphones.
They think that is the only way music can sound.
I am sad that they are not hearing the true beauty of all the instruments and vocals through a fabulous sound system.
I think also they lose a lot because they don't have the cover art and sleeve notes to read. That's half the fun lost right there.

Oh..I don't know Susie...a crystal clear MP3 file on an iPod beats a scratched old lump of vinyl on an 1980s turntable in terms of sound quality. And the old tapes played on on a Sony Walkman often sounded pretty lousy in comparison to anything around today as well...

Also..I wouldn't say that a few chavs playing music on their phones in shopping centres are necessarily representative of today's youth...

I do miss the old gatefold covers though....

Indeed, and remember how cassettes just used to mangle up or stretch so that the key changed?
I remember taping some songs for a mate to learn the saxophone parts because he couldn't make rehearsal the same night as the rest of us, and the tape had warped and he'd learned the songs in the wrong key. Yes those were the days!!!!!!

But haven't you noticed that some of the mixes these days are almost distorted because they are recorded loudly? And there seems to be treble on number 11, much higher than the middle and bass. It's not pleasant. Yuk.

And I just saw an advert on telly saying that the dreaded Jive Bunny was back!
Now that IS chav music!

What is the world coming to?

[RPM]

I have a 17 & 19 yr old boys and they could CARE LESS about sound quality. I mean mp3 at 320 bit rate can sound not bad
but 120 is horrible, and they just dont care.

Ray

[escapefan]

I have a 17 & 19 yr old boys and they could CARE LESS about sound quality. I mean mp3 at 320 bit rate can sound not bad
but 120 is horrible, and they just dont care.

Ray

I have a 15 year old and what saddens me is she doesn't care to hear anything live... She has no idea that there are bands that sound better live than studio.

Gina the Newbie

[SusieP]

Then we need to educate these young people!
Or rather, YOU do.
I don't have any kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tomulator]

How do you think Steve Perry feels about Journey's newfound chart success? Since Steve's Departure (ouch) from the band, Journey have toured relentlessy, usually attracting decent attendance figures, and have regained a decent foothold in Europe. However, Journey has pretty much flown under the radar in terms of American chart success, until now. Steve has, at times, has also made some less than flattering remarks about his ex - bandmate's efforts to carry the torch without him - mentioning the hiring of 'sound - alike' singers and stating that he does not know the names of the singers who have fronted the band since he left. He must surely know the name of Arnel at his point. I remember reading an article, just after TBF was released, in which Steve was quoted as saying something along the lines of 'when I got the call that the album had gone into the charts at number 3, I was jumping for joy around my office.' Now, for the first time, Steve is seeing Journey riding high in the Billboard charts, without him at the helm. How do you suppose he feels about this - envious? Indifferent? Happy for Neal and co? Discuss.

Lets not forget that a lot of people bought this because of the greatest hits redone cd,mostly co-written by Perry i might add,the band use most of the Perry era material live and to boost their new cd they use his stuff again

at last count SEVEN people bought this for the re records....

And the other 3 people bought it for?....

[Liquid_Drummer]

People that were not fans before are seeing them as a new band. They see Arnel and accept him as "the voice" because for the new generation of fans he is. Perry, oh that was guy from the 80's.. The only thing stronger that Perry in this whole can of worms are the songs. They will never erase Perry from our minds however Joe Bob consumer the casual fan doesnt give a shit...

LD - isn't it true though that the new generation of fans has actually come from the use of classsic Journey material on The Sopranos, The Simpsons, Laguna Beach, Family Guy, Scrubs and Monster? And from the heavy airplay the band's old hits gets on classic rock radio?

I'm not sure we can credit Revelation with Journey's popularity with younger audiences...

No argument that the younger crown knows the songs. They just wont care much about who is singing when they hear Arnel. NO ONE will ever replace Perry on Vox period. He was like Buddy Rich on drums. In an untouchable class of their own.. Arnel is good but as far as this genre of music is concerned their can be only one...

Steve Perry

Well, Brad Delp was bad ass on the 1st two Boston albumbs..

[Arkansas]

Curious, Perry says he doesn't listen to new Journey because it's none of his business. So, if he doesn't listen to bands that he's not a part of, then does he listen to any music at all? How does he know anything about any other band, or any other music, if he doesn't listen to it? And doesn't this guy get tired of listening to himself all the time?


later~

[Matthew]

Curious, Perry says he doesn't listen to new Journey because it's none of his business. So, if he doesn't listen to bands that he's not a part of, then does he listen to any music at all? How does he know anything about any other band, or any other music, if he doesn't listen to it? And doesn't this guy get tired of listening to himself all the time?


later~

Maybe he just doesn't listen to it because he knows it's a load of old cobblers....

[Arkansas]

Curious, Perry says he doesn't listen to new Journey because it's none of his business. So, if he doesn't listen to bands that he's not a part of, then does he listen to any music at all? How does he know anything about any other band, or any other music, if he doesn't listen to it? And doesn't this guy get tired of listening to himself all the time?


later~

Maybe he just doesn't listen to it because he knows it's a load of old cobblers....

Well, more to the point, what band is his business?
If he listens to any band that he's not a part of, then he's a liar about Journey.
I think he's full of $hit.


later~

[Matthew]

Curious, Perry says he doesn't listen to new Journey because it's none of his business. So, if he doesn't listen to bands that he's not a part of, then does he listen to any music at all? How does he know anything about any other band, or any other music, if he doesn't listen to it? And doesn't this guy get tired of listening to himself all the time?


later~

Maybe he just doesn't listen to it because he knows it's a load of old cobblers....

Well, more to the point, what band is his business?
If he listens to any band that he's not a part of, then he's a liar about Journey.
I think he's full of $hit.


later~

Oh come on Arkansas...I wouldn't take Perry's comment too seriously. He was clearly just being diplomatic. Would you rather he criticized the band from the sidelines? Perry has always kept a dignified silence and has avoided the kind of cheap shots Schon and Cain have often resorted to.