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Postby StoneCold » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:29 pm

Thanks to the Journey To The Cure thread, here's the site to buy Kevin's solo and Two Fires tracks.

Type "Two Fires" in the search bar and this cd will pop up. Great set of songs.

http://www.speakerheart.com/kevinchalfant

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Postby Don » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:36 pm

I don't understand, Is this a tribute to Journey? Why a complete album of Journey songs only? Was this supposed to be an audition cd?
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Postby StoneCold » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:38 pm

Gunbot wrote:I don't understand, Is this a tribute to Journey? Why a complete album of Journey songs only? Was this supposed to be an audition cd?


Fly2Freedom is a cover cd of Journey tracks.

I like the Two Fires album much better. Some great original tracks. Kevin and Josh Ramos are awesome here.

If you like TF, here's another cd Kevin did vocals on. Not available on the website above but Amazon and ebay usually have it.

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http://www.amazon.com/Shadows-Fade/dp/B0009WPL8A
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:09 pm

As if the Storm and Herbie’s personal imprimatur weren’t proof enough, the first Two Fires album is sure to make the most skeptical fan understand why Chalfant was (and most likely still is) the man for the job.

Just click and listen to "My Love Will Be There" at the following link.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =297930221

Sure, Arnel comes close, but at least Chalfant writes his own shit.
He is a natural.
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Postby StoneCold » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:05 pm

Here's "Love Changes Everything" from "Running With The Wind"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RfiYUODoHs

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Kevin with Shooting Star in 1980
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tD7-U56bEE

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Postby The Fly » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:29 pm

StoneCold wrote:
Kevin with Shooting Star in 1980
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tD7-U56bEE

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It's listed as Kevin but it isn't. That's Gary West.
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Postby Jeremey » Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:43 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:As if the Storm and Herbie’s personal imprimatur weren’t proof enough, the first Two Fires album is sure to make the most skeptical fan understand why Chalfant was (and most likely still is) the man for the job.

Just click and listen to "My Love Will Be There" at the following link.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =297930221

Sure, Arnel comes close, but at least Chalfant writes his own shit.
He is a natural.
Journey fucked up in a major way.


Man, I'm sorry, but how anyone can listen to "Fly2Freedom" and then the GH re-records and still have that opinion is beyond me. Your support of Chalfant for the job always is bolstered by mention of Herbie Herbert's "personal pick" for Perry's replacement, but you do realize that the replacement Herbie was talking about was circa 1985, right?
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Postby MarcelJordan » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:29 pm

Just my view, but Chalfant isn't half bad, but he seems he's out of breath most of the time. I doubt he'll be able to handle the power needed to keep up.
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Postby Arkansas » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:25 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:As if the Storm and Herbie’s personal imprimatur weren’t proof enough, the first Two Fires album is sure to make the most skeptical fan understand why Chalfant was (and most likely still is) the man for the job.

Just click and listen to "My Love Will Be There" at the following link.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =297930221

Sure, Arnel comes close, but at least Chalfant writes his own $hit.
He is a natural.
Journey f'd up in a major way.


Not sure I've ever agreed with you on anything...but this could be a first.

Get Chalfant. Bring back Rolie. Make Journey a six-piece!
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Postby Don » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:41 am

He actually sounds better singing the Gregg Rolie Bits, but any material after Captured he just doesn't bring it. Jeremy and Arnel are obviously the best choice for The Escape and beyond material. When I listen to the vocals on the rerecords or here the audio on Jeremy's clips, him and Arnel have such strong high vocals compared to this guy it's like a collegiate against the pro's. Maybe he had more of a high range in the early eighties but there is nothing here to prove it and to me at least Journey music has always been about the tenor sound.
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Postby texafana » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:48 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:As if the Storm and Herbie’s personal imprimatur weren’t proof enough, the first Two Fires album is sure to make the most skeptical fan understand why Chalfant was (and most likely still is) the man for the job.

Just click and listen to "My Love Will Be There" at the following link.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =297930221

Sure, Arnel comes close, but at least Chalfant writes his own shit.
He is a natural.
Journey fucked up in a major way.


huh? I used to think that as well until I heard "Fly2Freedom". Sorry, maybe 15-20 years ago, not now.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:29 am

Jeremey wrote:Man, I'm sorry, but how anyone can listen to "Fly2Freedom" and then the GH re-records and still have that opinion is beyond me. Your support of Chalfant for the job always is bolstered by mention of Herbie Herbert's "personal pick" for Perry's replacement, but you do realize that the replacement Herbie was talking about was circa 1985, right?


You’re wrong.
Like Augeri before him on Vegas 2001, Fly2Freedom showcases a soaring tenor covering the classics while relating them in his own way. The similarities to Perry are natural.
Arnel, on the other hand, is practically imitating Perry’s delivery on some of these tracks and reciting them phonetically.

And while Herbie did concede in Andrew’s interview that Chalfant’s creeping age may be a factor, he also said this on the topic of Kevin replacing Soto:

“Kevin Chalfant would have been a much better choice at that point. Kevin Chalfant would be a much better point now.”
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Postby yulog » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:33 am

The stuff Chalfant had on the first Two fires cd were songs he was writing with Journey back when they were looking at him as a potential lead(i remember an interview with him saying those songs were written with journey) Thats a great cd,but obviously when he wrote on his own (the 2nd cd was the result), which was hit and miss....mostly miss.Its obvious he had chemistry writing with the band and it was original, not rehashed stuff from the early 80's.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:46 am

Gunbot wrote:He actually sounds better singing the Gregg Rolie Bits, but any material after Captured he just doesn't bring it. Jeremy and Arnel are obviously the best choice for The Escape and beyond material. When I listen to the vocals on the rerecords or here the audio on Jeremy's clips, him and Arnel have such strong high vocals compared to this guy it's like a collegiate against the pro's. Maybe he had more of a high range in the early eighties but there is nothing here to prove it and to me at least Journey music has always been about the tenor sound.


Kevin's performance at the 2007 Chicago MR concert are all over YouTube.
His voice is plenty high and he hits the notes with ease - arguably much moreso than Jeff or Jeremey, who I both thought were great additions to the band.

Better still, while a strong tenor, Kevin doesn't have any of that Perry/Arnel shrill oil squeak quality,

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Me4v8c4P2q0
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Postby Jeremey » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:13 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Jeremey wrote:Man, I'm sorry, but how anyone can listen to "Fly2Freedom" and then the GH re-records and still have that opinion is beyond me. Your support of Chalfant for the job always is bolstered by mention of Herbie Herbert's "personal pick" for Perry's replacement, but you do realize that the replacement Herbie was talking about was circa 1985, right?


You’re wrong.
Like Augeri before him on Vegas 2001, Fly2Freedom showcases a soaring tenor covering the classics while relating them in his own way. The similarities to Perry are natural.
Arnel, on the other hand, is practically imitating Perry’s delivery on some of these tracks and reciting them phonetically.

And while Herbie did concede in Andrew’s interview that Chalfant’s creeping age may be a factor, he also said this on the topic of Kevin replacing Soto:

“Kevin Chalfant would have been a much better choice at that point. Kevin Chalfant would be a much better point now.”


Dude, half the songs on Fly2Freedom are tuned down a whole step. On that basis alone, how could you consider him a viable frontman for Journey in 2008?
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:23 am

Jeremey wrote:Dude, half the songs on Fly2Freedom are tuned down a whole step. On that basis alone, how could you consider him a viable frontman for Journey in 2008?


Not a deal breaker.
He still hits the clean highs.
Besides, i'm looking at the overall contribution, not only the voice.
Jeremey, you once claimed that Neal and Jon "made a go of it with Augeri despite any lack of chemistry" - which I couldn't agree with more.
So why risk going down that path again with another unproven creative entity like Arnel?
He may be entering his sunset years, but Chalfant's melodic creds are not suspect.
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:31 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Gunbot wrote:He actually sounds better singing the Gregg Rolie Bits, but any material after Captured he just doesn't bring it. Jeremy and Arnel are obviously the best choice for The Escape and beyond material. When I listen to the vocals on the rerecords or here the audio on Jeremy's clips, him and Arnel have such strong high vocals compared to this guy it's like a collegiate against the pro's. Maybe he had more of a high range in the early eighties but there is nothing here to prove it and to me at least Journey music has always been about the tenor sound.


Kevin's performance at the 2007 Chicago MR concert are all over YouTube.
His voice is plenty high and he hits the notes with ease - arguably much moreso than Jeff or Jeremey, who I both thought were great additions to the band.

Better still, while a strong tenor, Kevin doesn't have any of that Perry/Arnel shrill oil squeak quality,

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Me4v8c4P2q0


That's a great version of that tune.
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Postby The Fly » Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:28 am

Jeremey wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Jeremey wrote:Man, I'm sorry, but how anyone can listen to "Fly2Freedom" and then the GH re-records and still have that opinion is beyond me. Your support of Chalfant for the job always is bolstered by mention of Herbie Herbert's "personal pick" for Perry's replacement, but you do realize that the replacement Herbie was talking about was circa 1985, right?


You’re wrong.
Like Augeri before him on Vegas 2001, Fly2Freedom showcases a soaring tenor covering the classics while relating them in his own way. The similarities to Perry are natural.
Arnel, on the other hand, is practically imitating Perry’s delivery on some of these tracks and reciting them phonetically.

And while Herbie did concede in Andrew’s interview that Chalfant’s creeping age may be a factor, he also said this on the topic of Kevin replacing Soto:

“Kevin Chalfant would have been a much better choice at that point. Kevin Chalfant would be a much better point now.”


Dude, half the songs on Fly2Freedom are tuned down a whole step. On that basis alone, how could you consider him a viable frontman for Journey in 2008?


Who the f%#k cares that they are tuned down a half step!! The man has one the best voices in Rock IMHO bar none!! He could sing the frickin phone book and sound amazing if you ask me.
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Postby StoneCold » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:09 am

I always chuckle at the statement he made about TBF (or was it Arrival?). Something like "I've got better songs in my sock drawer." :D

He would've been worthy of the lead and we'd have some good albums no doubt. If this had happened back then, maybe Rolie and Smitty would've been back in the band?
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Postby finalfight » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:20 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Gunbot wrote:He actually sounds better singing the Gregg Rolie Bits, but any material after Captured he just doesn't bring it. Jeremy and Arnel are obviously the best choice for The Escape and beyond material. When I listen to the vocals on the rerecords or here the audio on Jeremy's clips, him and Arnel have such strong high vocals compared to this guy it's like a collegiate against the pro's. Maybe he had more of a high range in the early eighties but there is nothing here to prove it and to me at least Journey music has always been about the tenor sound.


Kevin's performance at the 2007 Chicago MR concert are all over YouTube.
His voice is plenty high and he hits the notes with ease - arguably much moreso than Jeff or Jeremey, who I both thought were great additions to the band.

Better still, while a strong tenor, Kevin doesn't have any of that Perry/Arnel shrill oil squeak quality,

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Me4v8c4P2q0


That was great.

Also Chalfant's live version of Survivor's Can't Hold Back (on the Live America album I think) is the best version of that song ever performed, bar none.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:27 am

finalfight wrote:That was great. Chalfant's live version of Survivor's Can't Hold Back (on the Live America album I think) is the best version of that song ever performed, bar none.


Yeh, that's a great track. Better than the album version, i think.
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Postby finalfight » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:29 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
finalfight wrote:That was great. Chalfant's live version of Survivor's Can't Hold Back (on the Live America album I think) is the best version of that song ever performed, bar none.


Yeh, that's a great track. Better than the album version, i think.


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Postby RedWingFan » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:31 am

StoneCold wrote:Here's "Love Changes Everything" from "Running With The Wind"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RfiYUODoHs

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Love this cd. "If This Is Love" is the most Journeyesque sounding track in my opinion.
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Postby ScarabGator » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:34 am

Anyone got the download they may be willing to share for Fly 2 Freedom???? I want this badly......you can post it here or PM the damn thing, just please share it with your fellow Journey Gator Guy....
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:40 am

finalfight wrote:That was great.

Also Chalfant's live version of Survivor's Can't Hold Back (on the Live America album I think) is the best version of that song ever performed, bar none.


Not sure if this is one and the same, but I have Chalfant doing it live with World Stage. A great rendition nonetheless. However I do doubt he'd stand up to the Journey catalogue - even though his ICHB is fabulous, it's tuned down a full step from the original recording. If he can't sing Jamison in the original key, something tells me Perry might be an even taller order.
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Postby finalfight » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:41 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
finalfight wrote:That was great.

Also Chalfant's live version of Survivor's Can't Hold Back (on the Live America album I think) is the best version of that song ever performed, bar none.


Not sure if this is one and the same, but I have Chalfant doing it live with World Stage. A great rendition nonetheless. However I do doubt he'd stand up to the Journey catalogue - even though his ICHB is fabulous, it's tuned down a full step from the original recording. If he can't sing Jamison in the original key, something tells me Perry might be an even taller order.


World Stage, that's the one! Sooo much better than the original which almost never happens.
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Postby Glenn » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:50 am

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pwnD23Grl7U&feature=related


I soooo wish the audio quality was better on this...

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Postby MCC620 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:15 am

kevin would have been a great pick after jeff last year and i really think he would have united this fan base almost back to normal.
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Postby StoneCold » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:24 am

MCC620 wrote:kevin would have been a great pick after jeff last year and i really think he would have united this fan base almost back to normal.


Was he even in the running or did he not want it anymore?
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Postby MCC620 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:28 am

StoneCold wrote:
MCC620 wrote:kevin would have been a great pick after jeff last year and i really think he would have united this fan base almost back to normal.


Was he even in the running or did he not want it anymore?


i think somewhere on this forum it was stated that he was contacted before the virginia show last year. it has been alluded to that, they did indeed dangle it again, but took it back. who knows.
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