cyndy! wrote:Lora wrote:If you had started an appreciate thread for me, I would have had to kill you.
hey tito, i think you should start an appreciation thread for lora.![]()
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I can't. Plus I don't think I'm Andrew's favorite right now.
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cyndy! wrote:Lora wrote:If you had started an appreciate thread for me, I would have had to kill you.
hey tito, i think you should start an appreciation thread for lora.![]()
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Tito wrote:
I just got back on the computer. I've been sleeping,etc. Plus, I was hoping by the time I got to work this morning, you would've reread what I originally typed and my first response to your comment and I would've seen an apology from you in PM or publicly. Sadly, I did not receive one.
Behshad wrote:Tito wrote:
I just got back on the computer. I've been sleeping,etc. Plus, I was hoping by the time I got to work this morning, you would've reread what I originally typed and my first response to your comment and I would've seen an apology from you in PM or publicly. Sadly, I did not receive one.
What kind of crack are you on, Tito?
You want Andrew to apologize to YOU?
Where is YOUR apology to him!???
And dont play the innocent card. You mentioned Jeff's name just to start shit all over again. What you suggested was just a little match you had to get the fire going and you did. We've been here long enough to know what purpose people have with his posts.
I did respond to your 1st suggestion comment that no matter what, we will post here in the Journey section to support Jeff.... but you couldnt deal with it,,, and thats what brought us to page 10 now.....
I think you need to apologize not only to Andrew but also Jeff for all the negativity you have cause (with no reason) since you started here.
Your buddy Saint John used to be one of the best posters around here, but since you came around here, he has changed a lot,,, mostly to impress you with his board powers and dean-wanna-be goals.... but all that shit is gettin old now,,, I wish the old SJ would be back and post his entertaining and fun posts like the old days.....
SusieP wrote:Behshad wrote:Tito,
do you HAVE to turn this topic to another anti JSS topic?
a lot = more than you think... Move on...
To be fair, Tito didn't post only about JSS, it was me who picked out that point.
He may not be on my Christmas card list yet, but fair's fair.
Behshad wrote:Tito
in all fairness, I was the 1st person to post to you in this thread when you mentioned Jeff's name.
You had your intentions with your posts. And YOU dont decide what is fair or not fair here. Its not your board. If Andrew thought that it was unfair for Jeff to have his own section AND being discussed in the Journey forum, trust me , he wouldve done something about it. You and Saint John seem to be the only two who have a problem with Jeff being discussed here in the Journey section. Even suggesting it makes it more obvious that youre totally anti Jeff... If you truly suggest to improve this place then start of by following your own suggestions. Did you know that there is a specifiy section for gig reviews way down on the board? You and Saint John couldve used that to tell us about REO show you guys went to last week,,,,, but you didnt cause you knew that this section has the main traffic......
Both of you are great guys in person, so it's surprising how you guys play these foolish old games here just to upset people who support Jeff. What do you try to accomplish? You think with your anti-Jeff posts you can change people's minds about Jeff's music?
Just apologize to Drew and lets move on,,,
Tito wrote:Behshad wrote:Tito
in all fairness, I was the 1st person to post to you in this thread when you mentioned Jeff's name.
You had your intentions with your posts. And YOU dont decide what is fair or not fair here. Its not your board. If Andrew thought that it was unfair for Jeff to have his own section AND being discussed in the Journey forum, trust me , he wouldve done something about it. You and Saint John seem to be the only two who have a problem with Jeff being discussed here in the Journey section. Even suggesting it makes it more obvious that youre totally anti Jeff... If you truly suggest to improve this place then start of by following your own suggestions. Did you know that there is a specifiy section for gig reviews way down on the board? You and Saint John couldve used that to tell us about REO show you guys went to last week,,,,, but you didnt cause you knew that this section has the main traffic......
Both of you are great guys in person, so it's surprising how you guys play these foolish old games here just to upset people who support Jeff. What do you try to accomplish? You think with your anti-Jeff posts you can change people's minds about Jeff's music?
Just apologize to Drew and lets move on,,,
This was address in point 1. I would have more than gladly posted the REO stuff in its respective thread if everything flowed the way I SUGGESTED it should. Since the Journey forum is the main traffic forum (which we all agreed on) that is why it was posted here. You're right, this Andrew's board and he can do what he wants, but he asked for suggestions and I gave mine. Judging by his response, he apparently didn't like them. I didn't just thow out my suggestion unwarranted, it was asked for. I did NOT start any Soto sh-t with my post. Technically, I never did. It was always a response to something.
Also, what do I owe Andrew an apology for? I've been nothing but a good solider. I've always obeyed his requests i.e. appreciation threads, deleted stories, etc.
Behshad wrote:Tito wrote:Behshad wrote:Tito
in all fairness, I was the 1st person to post to you in this thread when you mentioned Jeff's name.
You had your intentions with your posts. And YOU dont decide what is fair or not fair here. Its not your board. If Andrew thought that it was unfair for Jeff to have his own section AND being discussed in the Journey forum, trust me , he wouldve done something about it. You and Saint John seem to be the only two who have a problem with Jeff being discussed here in the Journey section. Even suggesting it makes it more obvious that youre totally anti Jeff... If you truly suggest to improve this place then start of by following your own suggestions. Did you know that there is a specifiy section for gig reviews way down on the board? You and Saint John couldve used that to tell us about REO show you guys went to last week,,,,, but you didnt cause you knew that this section has the main traffic......
Both of you are great guys in person, so it's surprising how you guys play these foolish old games here just to upset people who support Jeff. What do you try to accomplish? You think with your anti-Jeff posts you can change people's minds about Jeff's music?
Just apologize to Drew and lets move on,,,
This was address in point 1. I would have more than gladly posted the REO stuff in its respective thread if everything flowed the way I SUGGESTED it should. Since the Journey forum is the main traffic forum (which we all agreed on) that is why it was posted here. You're right, this Andrew's board and he can do what he wants, but he asked for suggestions and I gave mine. Judging by his response, he apparently didn't like them. I didn't just thow out my suggestion unwarranted, it was asked for. I did NOT start any Soto sh-t with my post. Technically, I never did. It was always a response to something.
Also, what do I owe Andrew an apology for? I've been nothing but a good solider. I've always obeyed his requests i.e. appreciation threads, deleted stories, etc.
good soldier? You started an appreciation topic within another topic just a day or two ago.......
Rip Rokken wrote:mistiejourney wrote:Andrew wrote:Rip Rokken wrote:We just need to diffuse all the angst with more Dokken threads... Dokken brings peace and happiness to MR.
Please...make it stop. Please....
Please note that we have diverted all attention to Kip Winger. That should neutralize Dokkenitis!![]()
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Not so fast!!! I got yours and Deb's subliminal affirmation of my post... haha! Notice that you each post twice after I mention Dokken, keeping my Don smiley in the reply as a signal that the post is directed to me. Each of you has an avatar with Jeff Scott Soto (who sings on the new album LSA) wearing a sports jersey, one with the number 10, and one with the number 4 -- the subliminal message if you scroll thru reads, "10-4, Rip! 10-4, Rip!"
Tito wrote:that was clearly tongue in cheek and comedic. Although the man that save Diamond Dave did have to be mentioned and honored.
Michigan Girl wrote:I'm pretty sure the point is being missed all together!!!
Andrew gave reasons for not wanting the appreciation threads and other threads of this nature....
"My opposition to these appreciation threads and other similar styled things is purely and simply
because the origins of this board come from a place where folks could say how they really felt about
this band and other topics, without fear of being closed down because you weren't a cheerleader for the band. "
He also stated.....
"I appreciate ALL views and ALL input. Thanks folks."
and
" My view - well, the board should be what the community of posters want it to be.
Those posting will in the end, dictate the feel, vibe and mood of the board.
This board allowed many to have a say without having to be positive 100% of the time and
without being closed down or banned for having those views. "
Tito shared his thoughts, opinions and/or suggestions.
I could be way off base, but I read it as.... if his appreciation threads don't fit with the vibe of this board,
why do these things? ~list of items that could possibly use a change (his opinion, not mine)!!!!
SOMEONEcame in and picked out the JSS section, took it as a personal attack on JSS and started
a MAJOR war!!!![]()
Do I agree with Tito's suggestions? That answer would be NO~but I saw the point he was trying to make!!
Do I like seeing negative things written about JSS? Again the answer would be~NO!!!
But that is NOT what his post was about. I. actually thought some of the suggestions bordered on the
ridiculous and hysterical(I got a HUGE laugh out of them) just to make his point about the appreciation threads
....(this is my opinion, again).
Andrew CLEARLY invited ALL imput, imput was given and people were attacked as a result!!
It is ANDREW's decision as to what's to be done with Tito's suggestions and idea's, not ours.
I do, however, firmly believe Andrew's decision should be respected.
Sorry, RHI.....I was working on this long before the midnight train came through!!!!
Onestepper wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:I'm pretty sure the point is being missed all together!!!
Andrew gave reasons for not wanting the appreciation threads and other threads of this nature....
"My opposition to these appreciation threads and other similar styled things is purely and simply
because the origins of this board come from a place where folks could say how they really felt about
this band and other topics, without fear of being closed down because you weren't a cheerleader for the band. "
He also stated.....
"I appreciate ALL views and ALL input. Thanks folks."
and
" My view - well, the board should be what the community of posters want it to be.
Those posting will in the end, dictate the feel, vibe and mood of the board.
This board allowed many to have a say without having to be positive 100% of the time and
without being closed down or banned for having those views. "
Tito shared his thoughts, opinions and/or suggestions.
I could be way off base, but I read it as.... if his appreciation threads don't fit with the vibe of this board,
why do these things? ~list of items that could possibly use a change (his opinion, not mine)!!!!
SOMEONEcame in and picked out the JSS section, took it as a personal attack on JSS and started
a MAJOR war!!!![]()
Do I agree with Tito's suggestions? That answer would be NO~but I saw the point he was trying to make!!
Do I like seeing negative things written about JSS? Again the answer would be~NO!!!
But that is NOT what his post was about. I. actually thought some of the suggestions bordered on the
ridiculous and hysterical(I got a HUGE laugh out of them) just to make his point about the appreciation threads
....(this is my opinion, again).
Andrew CLEARLY invited ALL imput, imput was given and people were attacked as a result!!
It is ANDREW's decision as to what's to be done with Tito's suggestions and idea's, not ours.
I do, however, firmly believe Andrew's decision should be respected.
Sorry, RHI.....I was working on this long before the midnight train came through!!!!
I agree that Andrew's decision should be respected. But the double standard is laughable. If you want feedback, then be prepared to hear stuff that you may not like or agree with. And don't attack someone when they offer what you requested in a respectful manner, right, wrong or indifferent.
Onestepper wrote:
I agree that Andrew's decision should be respected. But the double standard is laughable. If you want feedback, then be prepared to hear stuff that you may not like or agree with. And don't attack someone when they offer what you requested in a respectful manner. Right, wrong or indifferent.
Behshad wrote:Onestepper wrote:
I agree that Andrew's decision should be respected. But the double standard is laughable. If you want feedback, then be prepared to hear stuff that you may not like or agree with. And don't attack someone when they offer what you requested in a respectful manner. Right, wrong or indifferent.
Its not feedback when its build on sarcasm and hatred towards an ex member of the band
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RedWingFan wrote:Behshad wrote:Onestepper wrote:
I agree that Andrew's decision should be respected. But the double standard is laughable. If you want feedback, then be prepared to hear stuff that you may not like or agree with. And don't attack someone when they offer what you requested in a respectful manner. Right, wrong or indifferent.
Its not feedback when its build on sarcasm and hatred towards an ex member of the band
HATRED???? Could you point out the hateful posts??? Don't bother with ones that are simply pointing out facts and/or shatter the mirage tha you and others try to paint over this forum.
Behshad wrote:Onestepper wrote:
I agree that Andrew's decision should be respected. But the double standard is laughable. If you want feedback, then be prepared to hear stuff that you may not like or agree with. And don't attack someone when they offer what you requested in a respectful manner. Right, wrong or indifferent.
Its not feedback when its build on sarcasm and hatred towards an ex member of the band. Explain to me what part of the POINT 2 he made was to improve this place......
Andrew is open to suggestions to IMPROVE this place. Not what TITO's Personal Prefrences are. There's the difference, no double standard.
Also, MG,,, I didnt think what Tito said in his original post here was an attack towards Jeff. I simply responded to him that if he thinks that JSS topics wont be discussed here, he's in for a surprise.
AlteredDNA wrote:Behshad wrote:Onestepper wrote:
I agree that Andrew's decision should be respected. But the double standard is laughable. If you want feedback, then be prepared to hear stuff that you may not like or agree with. And don't attack someone when they offer what you requested in a respectful manner. Right, wrong or indifferent.
Its not feedback when its build on sarcasm and hatred towards an ex member of the band. Explain to me what part of the POINT 2 he made was to improve this place......
Andrew is open to suggestions to IMPROVE this place. Not what TITO's Personal Prefrences are. There's the difference, no double standard.
Also, MG,,, I didnt think what Tito said in his original post here was an attack towards Jeff. I simply responded to him that if he thinks that JSS topics wont be discussed here, he's in for a surprise.
I think that if you re-read your own posts in this thread, you'll find that you did indeed state that Tito was attacking / baiting in his original post...
Behshad wrote:AlteredDNA wrote:Behshad wrote:Onestepper wrote:
I agree that Andrew's decision should be respected. But the double standard is laughable. If you want feedback, then be prepared to hear stuff that you may not like or agree with. And don't attack someone when they offer what you requested in a respectful manner. Right, wrong or indifferent.
Its not feedback when its build on sarcasm and hatred towards an ex member of the band. Explain to me what part of the POINT 2 he made was to improve this place......
Andrew is open to suggestions to IMPROVE this place. Not what TITO's Personal Prefrences are. There's the difference, no double standard.
Also, MG,,, I didnt think what Tito said in his original post here was an attack towards Jeff. I simply responded to him that if he thinks that JSS topics wont be discussed here, he's in for a surprise.
I think that if you re-read your own posts in this thread, you'll find that you did indeed state that Tito was attacking / baiting in his original post...
Baiting yes. Attacking Jeff nope. I never said that he attacked Jeff.
AlteredDNA wrote:Behshad wrote:AlteredDNA wrote:Behshad wrote:Onestepper wrote:
I agree that Andrew's decision should be respected. But the double standard is laughable. If you want feedback, then be prepared to hear stuff that you may not like or agree with. And don't attack someone when they offer what you requested in a respectful manner. Right, wrong or indifferent.
Its not feedback when its build on sarcasm and hatred towards an ex member of the band. Explain to me what part of the POINT 2 he made was to improve this place......
Andrew is open to suggestions to IMPROVE this place. Not what TITO's Personal Prefrences are. There's the difference, no double standard.
Also, MG,,, I didnt think what Tito said in his original post here was an attack towards Jeff. I simply responded to him that if he thinks that JSS topics wont be discussed here, he's in for a surprise.
I think that if you re-read your own posts in this thread, you'll find that you did indeed state that Tito was attacking / baiting in his original post...
Baiting yes. Attacking Jeff nope. I never said that he attacked Jeff.
Semantics - either way your claim is that Tito was doing more than offering his suggestions on a thread that was specifically created to accept suggestions, right?
Behshad wrote:AlteredDNA wrote:Behshad wrote:AlteredDNA wrote:Behshad wrote:Onestepper wrote:
I agree that Andrew's decision should be respected. But the double standard is laughable. If you want feedback, then be prepared to hear stuff that you may not like or agree with. And don't attack someone when they offer what you requested in a respectful manner. Right, wrong or indifferent.
Its not feedback when its build on sarcasm and hatred towards an ex member of the band. Explain to me what part of the POINT 2 he made was to improve this place......
Andrew is open to suggestions to IMPROVE this place. Not what TITO's Personal Prefrences are. There's the difference, no double standard.
Also, MG,,, I didnt think what Tito said in his original post here was an attack towards Jeff. I simply responded to him that if he thinks that JSS topics wont be discussed here, he's in for a surprise.
I think that if you re-read your own posts in this thread, you'll find that you did indeed state that Tito was attacking / baiting in his original post...
Baiting yes. Attacking Jeff nope. I never said that he attacked Jeff.
Semantics - either way your claim is that Tito was doing more than offering his suggestions on a thread that was specifically created to accept suggestions, right?
This isnt about what I claim. Tito made few suggestions. Andrew didnt like them . Andrew's board, Andrew's rules. Tito can implement all those rules to Tito's forum.
Now if Tito along the way of his suggestions tried to include Jeff in there , he must have had his own reasons to do so,,,, so wouldnt you be better of asking him his main reason for mentioning Jeff's name, since youre one of his cheerleaders here?
Onestepper wrote:
For someone that claims that this is Andrew's board and he can do what he wants, you sure speak for him a lot.
Behshad wrote:AlteredDNA wrote:Behshad wrote:AlteredDNA wrote:Behshad wrote:Onestepper wrote:
I agree that Andrew's decision should be respected. But the double standard is laughable. If you want feedback, then be prepared to hear stuff that you may not like or agree with. And don't attack someone when they offer what you requested in a respectful manner. Right, wrong or indifferent.
Its not feedback when its build on sarcasm and hatred towards an ex member of the band. Explain to me what part of the POINT 2 he made was to improve this place......
Andrew is open to suggestions to IMPROVE this place. Not what TITO's Personal Prefrences are. There's the difference, no double standard.
Also, MG,,, I didnt think what Tito said in his original post here was an attack towards Jeff. I simply responded to him that if he thinks that JSS topics wont be discussed here, he's in for a surprise.
I think that if you re-read your own posts in this thread, you'll find that you did indeed state that Tito was attacking / baiting in his original post...
Baiting yes. Attacking Jeff nope. I never said that he attacked Jeff.
Semantics - either way your claim is that Tito was doing more than offering his suggestions on a thread that was specifically created to accept suggestions, right?
This isnt about what I claim. Tito made few suggestions. Andrew didnt like them . Andrew's board, Andrew's rules. Tito can implement all those rules to Tito's forum.
Now if Tito along the way of his suggestions tried to include Jeff in there , he must have had his own reasons to do so,,,, so wouldnt you be better of asking him his main reason for mentioning Jeff's name, since youre one of his cheerleaders here?
Behshad wrote:Onestepper wrote:
For someone that claims that this is Andrew's board and he can do what he wants, you sure speak for him a lot.
I dont speak for Andrew. I am just stating some facts in regards of HIS wishes. If youve been here for longer than a month, you should know what his wishes are. Simple.Butl given the fact that I get questioned by Tito's cheerleaders left and right, I see no choice to answer them one by one.
Next?
Behshad wrote:Onestepper wrote:
For someone that claims that this is Andrew's board and he can do what he wants, you sure speak for him a lot.
I dont speak for Andrew. I am just stating some facts in regards of HIS wishes. If youve been here for longer than a month, you should know what his wishes are. Simple.Butl given the fact that I get questioned by Tito's cheerleaders left and right, I see no choice to answer them one by one.
Next?
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