Don Dokken on Journey history

by **Rip Rokken** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:52 am

Leave it up to Don to teach me something about Journey I never knew! At 1:47 here, he says he saw them playing at The Whiskey on the Sunset Strip back in the day? I guess it makes sence, but for some reason, I've just never pictured Journey playing that scene... don't know why not... just never did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibftg3NI26s

by **Don** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:11 pm

The Whiskey?
Could that have been the beginning?

by **Rip Rokken** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:29 pm

LOL! I'm surprised you didn't use this one...

by **Andrew** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:34 pm

FINALLY!!!!!!!!

A RELEVANT DOKKEN TOPIC ON THE JOURNEY BOARD!!!!!!!!!!!

by **Rip Rokken** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:53 pm

Andrew wrote:FINALLY!!!!!!!!

A RELEVANT DOKKEN TOPIC ON THE JOURNEY BOARD!!!!!!!!!!!

As if it's the FIRST? LOL! You were there in the "Don Dokken says, 'I'm not Steve Perry'" thread, too! Or how about the "Hear N' Aid" threads? I've gotten the impression Don is a big Journey fan, and this only affirms this board as the place for him to thrive online...

by **Rip Rokken** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:57 pm

By the way, my little 4.5 year old daughter is learning how to rock! She's already started singing along with Daddy's music, and knows how to sing "No Way Back" from ASIA's Phoenix, and now "Standing On The Outside" from Dokken's Lightning Strikes Again! I don't teach them to her -- I just look over and notice that she's singing along! They she always looks at me and blushes -- she's so shy!

by **Perrydise** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:46 pm

Rip, I know I am going to regret saying this, and it could be from a lack of sleep. Your pic of your daddy in your sig is

HOT!

I am seeing DD in a different light.

I need sleep.

by **Don** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:12 pm

Rip Rokken wrote:By the way, my little 4.5 year old daughter is learning how to rock! She's already started singing along with Daddy's music, and knows how to sing "No Way Back" from ASIA's Phoenix, and now "Standing On The Outside" from Dokken's Lightning Strikes Again! I don't teach them to her -- I just look over and notice that she's singing along! They she always looks at me and blushes -- she's so shy!

Ahh, the eary signs of a dokkenette beginning to bloom

by **Rip Rokken** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:26 pm

Perrydise wrote:Rip, I know I am going to regret saying this, and it could be from a lack of sleep. Your pic of your daddy in your sig is HOT!

I am seeing DD in a different light.

I need sleep.

Why, that's the Dokkenator!!! Here, Mom! Have yourself some sweet dreams about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVhX6y78woU

by **annie89509** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:34 pm

Rip Rokken wrote:
Perrydise wrote:Rip, I know I am going to regret saying this, and it could be from a lack of sleep. Your pic of your daddy in your sig is HOT!

I am seeing DD in a different light.

I need sleep.

Why, that's the Dokkenator!!! Here, Mom! Have yourself some sweet dreams about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVhX6y78woU

Ouch ... my ears! :!:

by **SusieP** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:52 pm

I don't know who Don Dokken is.
Is he in a comedy show?

by **annie89509** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:08 pm

SusieP wrote:I don't know who Don Dokken is.
Is he in a comedy show?

Supposed to be a singer; has his own band. Never heard of him or the band until Rip joined this board.

by **SusieP** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:27 pm

annie89509 wrote:
SusieP wrote:I don't know who Don Dokken is.
Is he in a comedy show?

Supposed to be a singer; has his own band. Never heard of him or the band until Rip joined this board.

Never heard of them or him. I thought it was a comedy actor.
:shock:

by **Perrydise** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:29 pm

SusieP wrote:
annie89509 wrote:
SusieP wrote:I don't know who Don Dokken is.
Is he in a comedy show?

Supposed to be a singer; has his own band. Never heard of him or the band until Rip joined this board.

Never heard of them or him. I thought it was a comedy actor.

Oh oh

by **SusieP** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:32 pm

Ive just been looking at them on Youtube.
I have honestly never heard of them.
Do any of the other Brits know if they had any hits over here?
If they did, I don't know how they passed me by. Sometimes a name is familiar but I can't remember any of their songs, but not in this case.

by **80s man** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:34 pm

SusieP wrote:Ive just been looking at them on Youtube.
I have honestly never heard of them.
Do any of the other Brits know if they had any hits over here?
If they did, I don't know how they passed me by. Sometimes a name is familiar but I can't remember any of their songs, but not in this case.

No hits as such but Under Lock & Key is a great album.

by **Perrydise** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:50 pm

Well Susie I am sure you are abpout to embark on the Rip Rokken Don Dokken course 101. There will be an exam at the end. :lol:

by **Rip Rokken** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:35 pm

SusieP wrote:
annie89509 wrote:
SusieP wrote:I don't know who Don Dokken is.
Is he in a comedy show?

Supposed to be a singer; has his own band. Never heard of him or the band until Rip joined this board.

Never heard of them or him. I thought it was a comedy actor.

Annie, I'm still waiting on my check from Don for all the new fans I've made them here, and Susie -- LOL! I'm amazed almost daily at how many people are simply presenting themselves to be Indokktrinated here! Surely you know what's going to happen, right? Ask Progrocker53 how Dokken effects him these days since becoming a fan. I think Indokktrination is the hip thing these days on MR, just like Starbucks... only Don's not closing shop anytime soon... haha!

View that video I posted earlier to get you started, and once you're hooked, I'll bring in the heavier stuff.

Uncle Don says, "I WANT YOU!!!"

by **Rip Rokken** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:41 pm

SusieP wrote:Ive just been looking at them on Youtube.
I have honestly never heard of them.
Do any of the other Brits know if they had any hits over here?
If they did, I don't know how they passed me by. Sometimes a name is familiar but I can't remember any of their songs, but not in this case.

I don't know how popular Dokken was in the U.K., but they never really received their due here -- they were one of the big 80's hard rock (what we still called "metal" back then) bands, but just kinda got lumped in with the hair bands like Poison, when their music was much, much better. But Don's been around for quite a while, and I've sure they've toured the U.K. Heck, back when we had the Boston Tea Party, I think Don went over personally and tea-bagged the King of England, which really got the balls rolling toward independence!

And of course, Don was also one of the founding members of the Beatles...

by **SusieP** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:39 am

I'm not too keen on heavier stuff, so if they are really heavy that would explain why I hadn't heard of them.
In the youtube stuff I have just seen, like this for example,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M669kpnW ... re=related

they remind me of that mega successful band...................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMG87axd ... re=related

I'll just wait for Rip to kick my arse with his Dokktor Marten boots now, then.

:lol:

I won't be rushing out to buy their back catalogue any time soon. Sorry, Rip. :lol:

by **Matthew** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:54 am

Rip Rokken wrote:I don't know how popular Dokken was in the U.K., but they never really received their due here -- they were one of the big 80's hard rock (what we still called "metal" back then) bands, but just kinda got lumped in with the hair bands like Poison, when their music was much, much better. But Don's been around for quite a while, and I've sure they've toured the U.K. Heck, back when we had the Boston Tea Party, I think Don went over personally and tea-bagged the King of England, which really got the balls rolling toward independence!

And of course, Don was also one of the founding members of the Beatles...

Rip - my perception of Dokken here in the UK in the 1980s was that they were popular on the specialist/metal scene without ever crossing over into the mainstream....except perhaps for Dream Warriors, the theme from Nightmare On Elm Street 3.

Kerrang! certainly supported them though - and all in all they were in a similar league to Ratt, I'd say.

Interesting interview with Dokken in that clip. I'm not sue he meant to put his band second in the list of the most influential metal bands ever - he puts Van Halen first - but that's how it sounded. Also - strange how he forgets to mention the acts which came before Van Halen...Sabbath, Led Zep, Rainbow with Dio, UFO, etc, etc. Maybe he was just talking about the LA scene though....

Anyway - he seems like such a good bloke in the clips you've been posting, Rip. Very different from most of his contemporaries...that's for sure

by **Matthew** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:56 am

SusieP wrote:
they remind me of that mega successful band...................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMG87axd ... re=related

So true Susie...and the official video is even more reminiscent of Spinal Tap...especially after the two minute mark....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQb1t_Yw0S8

by **SusieP** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:07 am

Matthew wrote:
SusieP wrote:
they remind me of that mega successful band...................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMG87axd ... re=related

So true Susie...and the official video is even more reminiscent of Spinal Tap...especially after the two minute mark....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQb1t_Yw0S8

He does seem like a really nice bloke in that interview, though.

And I always thought Black Sabbath 'invented' heavy metal?

by **Rip Rokken** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:20 am

SusieP wrote:I'm not too keen on heavier stuff, so if they are really heavy that would explain why I hadn't heard of them.
In the youtube stuff I have just seen, like this for example,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M669kpnW ... re=related

they remind me of that mega successful band...................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMG87axd ... re=related

I'll just wait for Rip to kick my arse with his Dokktor Marten boots now, then.

I won't be rushing out to buy their back catalogue any time soon. Sorry, Rip.

Spinal Tap?!? LOL! Well, hey, you did view one of the VERY OLDEST Dokken vids in existence -- there is nothing on the Net from before that concert in German, which also featured my good pal Juan Croucier on bass!

But if you like mellower music, don't write them off just yet -- there is plenty of it. You might like Don's new solo album Solitary, which is all acoustic and very melodic -- great stuff! And try this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4nBuROdJVk

by **Rip Rokken** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:23 am

Matthew wrote:Rip - my perception of Dokken here in the UK in the 1980s was that they were popular on the specialist/metal scene without ever crossing over into the mainstream....except perhaps for Dream Warriors, the theme from Nightmare On Elm Street 3.

Kerrang! certainly supported them though - and all in all they were in a similar league to Ratt, I'd say.

Interesting interview with Dokken in that clip. I'm not sue he meant to put his band second in the list of the most influential metal bands ever - he puts Van Halen first - but that's how it sounded. Also - strange how he forgets to mention the acts which came before Van Halen...Sabbath, Led Zep, Rainbow with Dio, UFO, etc, etc. Maybe he was just talking about the LA scene though....

Anyway - he seems like such a good bloke in the clips you've been posting, Rip. Very different from most of his contemporaries...that's for sure

I think you are right on -- I just think musically they deserved much more due than they were given, but they've had great staying power with their fanbase, that's for sure. And new fans being made all the time!

by **Perrydise** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:40 am

I will agree that Solitary is exceptional!

Rip Rokken, Don Dokken's unknown son recommended it highly.

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