Turn Down the World Tonight better than

by **Matthew** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:05 pm

stevew2 wrote:he wears that shirt, than perry comes out in a black suit.Blew his ass out of the water

by **finalfight** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:35 pm

Turn Down the World Tonight is the best song on Revelation.

On a slight aside does anyone have a Shadowsong to English dictionary that I could borrow? :shock:

by **styxman** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:40 pm

The only thing I struggle with, is there still a damand for Ballads Journey Style. The modern take is always a little more under stated without the power we always associate with that era...does it relegate their music back into the steadfastness of the 80's. TDTWT has a refreshingly new type of arrangement which is catchy as hell and some might be surprised to hear it's by Journey, this track has a chance. TDTWT would have wiped the charts clean in the early 80's, massive no.1, now it'll get airplay and might just creep into the top 100, shame for such a good track.

AATY is nothing but a good middle of the road track, it'll fade into the background sooner than you think, I'm bored with it already as I am with 75% of the album unfortunately. I don't mean I'm not impressed with their efforts of revelation but it soon becomes just another album.

by **Matthew** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:07 pm

styxman wrote:The only thing I struggle with, is there still a damand for Ballads Journey Style. The modern take is always a little more under stated without the power we always associate with that era...does it relegate their music back into the steadfastness of the 80's. TDTWT has a refreshingly new type of arrangement which is catchy as hell and some might be surprised to hear it's by Journey, this track has a chance. TDTWT would have wiped the charts clean in the early 80's, massive no.1, now it'll get airplay and might just creep into the top 100, shame for such a good track.

AATY is nothing but a good middle of the road track, it'll fade into the background sooner than you think, I'm bored with it already as I am with 75% of the album unfortunately. I don't mean I'm not impressed with their efforts of revelation but it soon becomes just another album.

I agree Styxman. Turn Down The World Tonight and - for me - Change For The Better represent a slight departure for Journey...and it's no coincidence that these two songs already - after a mere six weeks - have a sense of longevity the rest of the albums lacks.

by **Eric** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:04 pm

I like "What I needed better than both"...

by **ProgRocker53** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:10 am

I agree with most on here that "Turn Down the World Tonight" and "Change for the Better" have the most staying power, it's proven true for me as well.

by **finalfight** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:16 am

I am definitely in the minority here but I really don't like 'Change For The Betta!' or 'Wildest Dreams' for that matter.

by **janus65** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:17 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:After All These Years????

The more I listen, the more I like TDWT over AATY.

Really...Both are excellent songs, but something about TTWT just grabs me more.

Anyone else?

TDTWT has grown on me, too. it is more mature. AATY is so cheesy to me.

by **styxman** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:19 am

Eric wrote:I like "What I needed better than both"...

I'm looking at the track listing and I can't find ' What I needed better than both' Is this an Asian bonus track or what

by **styxman** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:25 am

janus65 wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:After All These Years????

The more I listen, the more I like TDWT over AATY.

Really...Both are excellent songs, but something about TTWT just grabs me more.

Anyone else?

TDTWT has grown on me, too. it is more mature. AATY is so cheesy to me.

That about sums it up for me too and it's these cheesy tracks that give them little credibility with the mature fans of today. We enjoyed in back in the 80's but ffs times moved on

by **strangegrey** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:26 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:After All These Years????

The more I listen, the more I like TDWT over AATY.

Really...Both are excellent songs, but something about TTWT just grabs me more.

Anyone else?

I'm going to get skewered for this, but I agree with you Stu....I find that AATY is the one song where Pineda's diction and meter are way off...and it annoys me. I don't really harp on his diction like some of the other 'anti-arneler's (which I dont really consider myself)...but AATY is the one song where it bother's me. TDTWT is a good solid tune.

by **janus65** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:14 am

Gunbot wrote:
tammy wrote:I like both songs. I heard "After All These Years" on the radio for the first time tonight. I had been playing the CD in the car and decided to turn on the radio & it came on a little while later...on KOST the soft rock station in L.A.

KOST played it at lunch also. Looks like they're gonna use it to promote the tour. And they had Lea Solanga (a filipina) in studio this morning to promote her disney concert, not that it has anything to do with Journey, I was just working the filipino angle.

Gunbot,
Here's some clip, if you're interested about Lea Salonga's journey from Philippines to London's West End to New York's Broadway Show. If Neal Schon did the search on AP in easy YTube way, then Miss Saigon Production did it the hard way touring around the world.

Audition in Manila
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sy-A-wyzj7c&feature=related

Final Audition in London
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RsJpfwYBx2U

A Whole New World recording session
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pi_Ocd9IALc&feature=related

Miss Saigon - i give my life for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGFxgUQkTL4
Miss Saigon - too much for one heart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_KmhG-L ... re=related

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Saigon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lea_Salonga

by **stevew2** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:31 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:I agree with most on here that "Turn Down the World Tonight" and "Change for the Better" have the most staying power, it's proven true for me as well.

What do you know about staying power??

by **annie89509** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:14 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:After All These Years????

The more I listen, the more I like TDWT over AATY.

Really...Both are excellent songs, but something about TTWT just grabs me more.

Anyone else?

Definitely. TDWT has some grit, it's the best song on the whole album, imo. AATY is just another cheesy ballad, which Journey has recorded a million times before with the incomparable SP. Nobody can sing a slow (love) ballad better than SP (again imo).

by **S2M** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:16 am

TDTWT is actually my LEAST favorite on the CD....

by **styxman** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:37 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:TDTWT is actually my LEAST favorite on the CD....

I take it your avatar is a relection of you. Have you tried slowing you head down and listenning to this track :?:

Fuck knows you might just like it when your brain's not being whacked sensless from the side of your skull :wink:

by **X factor** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:09 am

I'm probably gonna get skewered for THIS, but I think AATY is absolute crap! Just pure sap that sounds like the love ballad in a bad Disney cartoon or one of those shitty American Idol "originals"... Yuk! And as for the "country" remark, I agree! I could TOTALLY hear Carrie Underwood warbling or Keith Urban crooning this syrupy crap on their next albums.

The TDTW tune is pretty cool, though. Catchy title too!

by **Rick** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:14 am

X factor wrote:I'm probably gonna get skewered for THIS, but I think AATY is absolute crap! Just pure sap that sounds like the love ballad in a bad Disney cartoon or one of those shitty American Idol "originals"... Yuk! And as for the "country" remark, I agree! I could TOTALLY hear Carrie Underwood warbling or Keith Urban crooning this syrupy crap on their next albums.

The TDTW tune is pretty cool, though. Catchy title too!

While I disagree on AATY, I agree on TDTWT. I've never heard that said before. "Turn Down The World". Very insightful idea for a lyric.

I want to know who's singing the backing vox. They're way up there and very well done.

by **separate_wayz** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:27 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:TDTWT is actually my LEAST favorite on the CD....

I think that honor goes to "What It Takes To Win". Absolutely terrible lyrics. The worst cliched nonsense that Journey has put out in a long time.

by **cyndy!** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:29 am

separate_wayz wrote:I think that honor goes to "What It Takes To Win". Absolutely terrible lyrics. The worst cliched nonsense that Journey has put out in a long time.

yeah, i can live without ever hearing that one again.

by **StoneCold** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:41 am

cyndy! wrote:
separate_wayz wrote:
I think that honor goes to "What It Takes To Win". Absolutely terrible lyrics. The worst cliched nonsense that Journey has put out in a long time.

yeah, i can live without ever hearing that one again.

There's no "I" in "Team" y'all.

by **Don** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:49 am

WykkedSensation wrote:
Gunbot wrote:AATY could pass for modern country while TDTWT has more of a gritty rock sound. I Had my player on random and when TDTWT came on I had to look to see who the artist was. It has a different vocal pacing which I like.

''Modern Country''???? WTF....'After all these years' is a massive AOR ballad if ever there was one.

I can totally picture Vince Gill or some other country crooner belting this out. When I hear it I immediately get the urge to run out and check my tires to see if I got any dog hairs stuck in the treads.

by **Vladan** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:56 am

One thing is for cetain. Journey have not written or a done a good ballad since Perry left. All the ballads since have been utterly predictable, cheesy, boring. And the lyrics just want to make you throw up. Arrival started the trend, and it clearly shows only one guy could pull them of without sounding too girly or just unconvincing - that was Steve Perry.

by **Michigan Girl** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:12 am

styxman wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:TDTWT is actually my LEAST favorite on the CD....

I take it your avatar is a relection of you. Have you tried slowing you head down and listenning to this track Fuck knows you might just like it when your brain's not being whacked sensless from the side of your skull

by **nutz4Neal** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:22 pm

janus65 wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:After All These Years????

The more I listen, the more I like TDWT over AATY.

Really...Both are excellent songs, but something about TTWT just grabs me more.

Anyone else?

TDTWT has grown on me, too. it is more mature. AATY is so cheesy to me.

Agreed. I still love AATY a lot and would pick it to be played at my 50th wedding anniversary; but it's becoming a bit cheesey right now. TDTWT is sounding more mature.

However, What I Needed is fast becoming my favorite on this CD.

by **Saint John** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:48 pm

nutz4Neal wrote:
janus65 wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:After All These Years????

The more I listen, the more I like TDWT over AATY.

Really...Both are excellent songs, but something about TTWT just grabs me more.

Anyone else?

TDTWT has grown on me, too. it is more mature. AATY is so cheesy to me.

Agreed. I still love AATY a lot and would pick it to be played at my 50th wedding anniversary; but it's becoming a bit cheesey right now. TDTWT is sounding more mature.

However, What I Needed is fast becoming my favorite on this CD.

AATY is like Open Arms and TDTWT is like Faithfully. AATY and Open Arms are vocally stunning but pretty generic and by the numbers musically. Faithfully and TDTWT are more intricate and you discover something new as you listen to them more. AATY and Open Arms are pretty much the same thing over and over; not much you won't hear during the 2nd listen that you didn't hear the first time. I keep hearing cool new parts every time I listen to TDTWT...it simply has more staying power because of its more complex design.

PS I better be invited to that 50th anniversary!!!

by **stevew2** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:14 pm

Gunbot wrote:
WykkedSensation wrote:
Gunbot wrote:AATY could pass for modern country while TDTWT has more of a gritty rock sound. I Had my player on random and when TDTWT came on I had to look to see who the artist was. It has a different vocal pacing which I like.

''Modern Country''???? WTF....'After all these years' is a massive AOR ballad if ever there was one.

I can totally picture Vince Gill or some other country crooner belting this out. When I hear it I immediately get the urge to run out and check my tires to see if I got any dog hairs stuck in the treads.

I really like your aviatar. i beleve she is japanies [unlike the other one] what a hottie

by **Saint John** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:17 pm

stevew2 wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
WykkedSensation wrote:
Gunbot wrote:AATY could pass for modern country while TDTWT has more of a gritty rock sound. I Had my player on random and when TDTWT came on I had to look to see who the artist was. It has a different vocal pacing which I like.

''Modern Country''???? WTF....'After all these years' is a massive AOR ballad if ever there was one.

I can totally picture Vince Gill or some other country crooner belting this out. When I hear it I immediately get the urge to run out and check my tires to see if I got any dog hairs stuck in the treads.
I really like your aviatar. i beleve she is japanies [unlike the other one] what a hottie

No shit, man. That girl is SMOKING!!! :shock:

by **stevew2** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:19 pm

that little belly is driving me to miss daisy

by **Saint John** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:20 pm

stevew2 wrote:that little belly is driving me to miss daisy

Do you think Friga would find her attractive? :lol:

(can't wait for this answer!!! :twisted:

)

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