Turn Down the World Tonight better than

[stevew2]

that little belly is driving me to miss daisy

Do you think Friga would find her attractive? (can't wait for this answer!!! )

No ,he would find me more attarctive,and finding her less atttractive,if you know what I mean SJ. thats belly shot is killer, Friga doesnt know what he is missing.

[Saint John]

that little belly is driving me to miss daisy

Do you think Friga would find her attractive? (can't wait for this answer!!! )

No ,he would find me more attarctive,and finding her less atttractive,if you know what I mean SJ. thats belly shot is killer, Friga doesnt know what he is missing.

Any future plans for his avatar that you'd care to share? (Fuck, I feel like I'm interviewing you!!! )

[stevew2]

Im thinkin about an action shot ,maybe back door, what do you and Tito think?

[Saint John]

Im thinkin about an action shot ,maybe back door, what do you and Tito think?

While I can't speak for Tito I think you should start completely over from the original picture and add something every 3 or 4 days. I think a hot pink turban would be funny as hell!!!

[stevew2]

i dont know about the turban thing,i was thinkin more about a pink cowboy hat

[Don]

i dont know about the turban thing,i was thinkin more about a pink cowboy hat

Can't go wrong with some Hello kitty gear, maybe with the shirt.

[stevew2]

i dont know about the turban thing,i was thinkin more about a pink cowboy hat

Can't go wrong with some Hello kitty gear, maybe with the shirt.

thats cool, you find the best Aviatar s, that is your talent,keep it comin love

[Don]

i dont know about the turban thing,i was thinkin more about a pink cowboy hat

Can't go wrong with some Hello kitty gear, maybe with the shirt.

thats cool, you find the best Aviatar s, that is your talent,keep it comin love

Dude, I hope that was friga talkin with the love thing. Aint no one gonna be pumping sunshine up into my windmill.

[Rhiannon]

keep it comin love

Aww... I smell a Bromance.

[Don]

keep it comin love

Aww... I smell a Bromance.

Great, K.C.'s in the flamin house.

[stevew2]

keep it comin love

Aww... I smell a Bromance.

Great, K.C.'s in the flamin house.

music sucks, but they will dance to that fucker all night long

[journeypower]

One thing is for cetain. Journey have not written or a done a good ballad since Perry left. All the ballads since have been utterly predictable, cheesy, boring. And the lyrics just want to make you throw up. Arrival started the trend, and it clearly shows only one guy could pull them of without sounding too girly or just unconvincing - that was Steve Perry.

I don't get the connection or any real logic between songwriting and Steve Perry singing the new ballads nowadays. did you mean SP can turn a cheesy ballad into a great one just by singing it? boy, cant wait for him to sing an "I love to masturbate" lyric without making him appear like a perv.

[ProgRocker53]

One thing is for cetain. Journey have not written or a done a good ballad since Perry left. All the ballads since have been utterly predictable, cheesy, boring. And the lyrics just want to make you throw up. Arrival started the trend, and it clearly shows only one guy could pull them of without sounding too girly or just unconvincing - that was Steve Perry.

I don't get the connection or any real logic between songwriting and Steve Perry singing the new ballads nowadays. did you mean SP can turn a cheesy ballad into a great one just by singing it? boy, cant wait for him to sing an "I love to masturbate" lyric without making him appear like a perv.

BE GOOD TO YOURSEEEEELF

[sniper16]

I agree with most on here that "Turn Down the World Tonight" and "Change for the Better" have the most staying power, it's proven true for me as well.

have to agree, i think most newer albums from classic artists, that wont get massive airplay, dont get imbedded in our brain, and wont stand out because we will go back to the classics, turn down, and change are the best songs, on a very good release.

[Tito]

TDTWT is their best ballad since Faithfully. Yes, I like it more than WYLAW.

I love it to,I put down my wine, and chased the cat around the house.Friga was with his lover when he wrote that song.Good job John

It's CAIN! and he's NOT A HOMO!

[Tito]

Think Neal wants a hug too?

This is his Luke Duke look. I think this was around the time of the Dukes of Hazzard movie.

[Tito]

I think that honor goes to "What It Takes To Win". Absolutely terrible lyrics. The worst cliched nonsense that Journey has put out in a long time.

yeah, i can live without ever hearing that one again.

There's no "I" in "Team" y'all.

Like Saint John used to say to the college baseball coach, "There's no we either."

[Saint John]

I think that honor goes to "What It Takes To Win". Absolutely terrible lyrics. The worst cliched nonsense that Journey has put out in a long time.

yeah, i can live without ever hearing that one again.

There's no "I" in "Team" y'all.

Like Saint John used to say to the college baseball coach, "There's no we either."

lol...you remembered my smart ass response to the coach, eh? Davenport was pissed off when I said that after one of his feminine tirades.

[Tito]

I vote for TDTWT also. AATY I skip on occasion.

[youkeepmewaiting]

After All These Years????

The more I listen, the more I like TDWT over AATY.

Really...Both are excellent songs, but something about TTWT just grabs me more.

Anyone else?

TDTWT has grown on me, too. it is more mature. AATY is so cheesy to me.

Agreed. I still love AATY a lot and would pick it to be played at my 50th wedding anniversary; but it's becoming a bit cheesey right now. TDTWT is sounding more mature.

However, What I Needed is fast becoming my favorite on this CD.

AATY is like Open Arms and TDTWT is like Faithfully. AATY and Open Arms are vocally stunning but pretty generic and by the numbers musically. Faithfully and TDTWT are more intricate and you discover something new as you listen to them more. AATY and Open Arms are pretty much the same thing over and over; not much you won't hear during the 2nd listen that you didn't hear the first time. I keep hearing cool new parts every time I listen to TDTWT...it simply has more staying power because of its more complex design.

PS I better be invited to that 50th anniversary!!!

I completly agree.

TDTWT reminds me alot of Faithfully. Particually APs great notes that he hits at the end, fantastic.

[Granny]

Think Neal wants a hug too?

Thats a big smile cuz he saw Perry that day...

[Saint John]

Think Neal wants a hug too?

This is his Luke Duke look. I think this was around the time of the Dukes of Hazzard movie.

I just wanna know what our very own Melissa is doing directly over his right shoulder!!!

[Rick]

Think Neal wants a hug too?

This is his Luke Duke look. I think this was around the time of the Dukes of Hazzard movie.

I just wanna know what our very own Melissa is doing directly over his right shoulder!!!

And Fleischman over the other shoulder.

[Arkansas]

AATY could pass for modern country while TDTWT has more of a gritty rock sound. I Had my player on random and when TDTWT came on I had to look to see who the artist was. It has a different vocal pacing which I like.

''Modern Country''???? WTF....'After all these years' is a massive AOR ballad if ever there was one.

Had a discussion on this some time ago. AATY could easily be a modern country duet. Yes, it's very good like it is. But every time I hear it, it just screams country crossover duet, especially with supporting video. This song tells a very Americana-type story about a midwest high school couple that got married early, had typical hardships, but fought through everything. And now, looking back, they appreciate each other even more. This is a great American story that - IMO - would have huge commercial success on country radio as a duet, where the couple is trading lines back & forth and then doing some harmony thing on the chorus. This is a song that could easily be a high school prom theme, wedding theme, and/or very much Anniversary celebration material. But I don't think the way it is now lends itself too much to that. People would tend to personalize it more, if it were an actual couple singing it to each other.

And yes, 'Turn Down the World Tonight' is the best song on the album. The melody is kinda haunting, definitely lingering, and it just takes you to a certain place every time. 'Why Can't This Night Go On Forever' always did that to me. 'Who's Crying Now' still does. This song is just as good as those two.


later~

[Onestepper]

AATY could pass for modern country while TDTWT has more of a gritty rock sound. I Had my player on random and when TDTWT came on I had to look to see who the artist was. It has a different vocal pacing which I like.

And yes, 'Turn Down the World Tonight' is the best song on the album. The melody is kinda haunting, definitely lingering, and it just takes you to a certain place every time. 'Why Can't This Night Go On Forever' always did that to me. 'Who's Crying Now' still does. This song is just as good as those two.

Agreed on all levels. TDTWT is the one song on the disc I listen to every day and don't get tired of. "Haunting" is a perfect word for it.