Vocal Strain starting to show early? (Apparently Not!)

[twinklestar]

But if he is struggling a bit for whatever reason, I hope he speaks out and makes sure he is allowed the appropriate rest he needs to nurture his precious instrument.

Yes, yes, yes.
His coming to the band spurred this huge comeback they've GOT to preserve him.
Pineda, speak up, get CastroHulkHair to help out, pull out all the stops to keep this guy healthy.

I'm saying nothing about Deen's hair.
Stevew2 says Deen is trying to copy mine.

Now that you mention it....hmmm

[Michigan Girl]

Geezus...can't a person have an off night???

Totally agree that a person can have an off-night.

Personally, I'm simply worried for the guy. This is not a slam on Arnel, not a comparison to Perry or anything like that. That's a murderous catalogue to sing every sing and has now destoyed the voices of two killer singers.

Arnel is a fantastic singer and I hope his ideally long career isn't cut short by some murderous catalogue/touring schedule combination.

right on the money. the ironman stuff is purely absurd !

this is not a contest of who can last longer on singing but rather a sentiment on preserving and taking care of a singer, not killing him. I wonder why some people are so ass about who's better. purely child stuff.

Journey, who I like to refer to as the Mafia Hit Men of Rock and Roll, seem to knock off lead singers left and right!!! I think, we, the fans, are more concerned about Arnel's voice!!! Yes, everyone has an off day, but it's never too early to take precaution!! Now, as far as childishly fighting over who's number one~Silly, everyone knows the answer to that!!!!

[stevew2]

But if he is struggling a bit for whatever reason, I hope he speaks out and makes sure he is allowed the appropriate rest he needs to nurture his precious instrument.

Yes, yes, yes.
His coming to the band spurred this huge comeback they've GOT to preserve him.
Pineda, speak up, get CastroHulkHair to help out, pull out all the stops to keep this guy healthy.

I'm saying nothing about Deen's hair.
Stevew2 says Deen is trying to copy mine.

Take some drum lessons sing like Perry, we wont have to worry about Arnel. .You hair looks more electrifing the Deens. I had the theory about using the rerecords as a backup as soon as I heard they were going into the studio. Background vocals are taped anyway I wouldnt put it past them.They do that before cancelling or giving him any kind of break. could be an off night or piece of bad beef

[Don]

My co worker went to the show at Verizon last night ( I'm waiting for the Greek Theater show ). He didn't detect anything wrong with Arnel's voice. He said it sounds so much stronger than the show he watched at Vegas. Also Arnel apparently did the whole set with out Deen singing anything. If Arnel was having problems the night before I wouldn't think they would skip on Deen from singing one or two songs.
A new thing he noticed is that Arnel has developed a baritone speaking voice that when he talks you don't have strain to hear, unlike some moments at the Vegas show, and he has dropped the timid act and shows more confidence on stage. In summary, maybe he had a few hiccups the night before but everything seems alright now.

[SusieP]

But if he is struggling a bit for whatever reason, I hope he speaks out and makes sure he is allowed the appropriate rest he needs to nurture his precious instrument.

Yes, yes, yes.
His coming to the band spurred this huge comeback they've GOT to preserve him.
Pineda, speak up, get CastroHulkHair to help out, pull out all the stops to keep this guy healthy.

I'm saying nothing about Deen's hair.
Stevew2 says Deen is trying to copy mine.

Take some drum lessons sing like Perry, we wont have to worry about Arnel. .You hair looks more electrifing the Deens. I had the theory about using the rerecords as a backup as soon as I heard they were going into the studio. Background vocals are taped anyway I wouldnt put it past them.They do that before cancelling or giving him any kind of break. could be an off night or piece of bad beef

I'm gonna send Arnel some sage teabags.
And Deen some hair product. we need to tame that hair down a tad.

[Tomulator]

Not trying to start a comparison thing here but, I have always been amazed at how well SP held up singing these songs night after night. You have to remember, he did all the touring singing WITHOUT the high-tech, in-ear monitor systems and "reasonable" stage volume levels. When Perry toured, they were at SCREAMING stage levels! Especially in the late 70's / early 80's.

Very significant facts in the deterioration of a singing voice.

[Red13JoePa]

Gunbot, who's that rather attractive young female in the av?

Day after day, there she is in yet another state of glorious undress.

[stevew2]

I knew you were up to something

[Don]

Gunbot, who's that rather attractive young female in the av?

Day after day, there she is in yet another state of glorious undress.

A different lady for a different day. Yesterday's girl became a topic unto herself so I put a shirt on this one.

[stevew2]

Gunbot, who's that rather attractive young female in the av?

Day after day, there she is in yet another state of glorious undress.

He wont tell me her name or website, he wants to keep her all to himself greedy ass

[Tito]

Journey, who I like to refer to as the Mafia Hit Men of Rock and Roll,

Cain! - He lets you live.

[SusieP]

I knew you were up to something

Who, me?

[SusieP]

Not trying to start a comparison thing here but, I have always been amazed at how well SP held up singing these songs night after night. You have to remember, he did all the touring singing WITHOUT the high-tech, in-ear monitor systems and "reasonable" stage volume levels. When Perry toured, they were at SCREAMING stage levels! Especially in the late 70's / early 80's.

Very significant facts in the deterioration of a singing voice.

Me too. Ages ago someone posted up the Journey touring schedules and the number of dates and the lack of time off between them really made you think.
Add all the travelling to that, and it was some achievement.

Damage was done, but were lessons learned?
Not for Augeri, obviously, but let's hope they have been learned for Arnel to benefit from.
If another Journey singer's voice gets knackered we really are going to have to call in the Social services.
Or send in our Sicilian relatives.

[stevew2]

Journey, who I like to refer to as the Mafia Hit Men of Rock and Roll,

Cain! - He lets you live.

Friga - makes me Live gives me purpose

[BobbyinTN]

I think it's bullshit to book shows on consecutive nights. I think it's irresponsible of Neal and Jon to not take care of Arnel. I think right now Arnel would do anything to please them and might not be as objective as he should be.
I guess if you don't learn from the past, you're doomed to repeat it.

[stevew2]

They dont give a shit about Arnel or anyone but themselves. Im sure this time they have a plan B., just like they did when they diiched Augeri

[SusieP]

I think it's bullshit to book shows on consecutive nights. I think it's irresponsible of Neal and Jon to not take care of Arnel. I think right now Arnel would do anything to please them and might not be as objective as he should be.
I guess if you don't learn from the past, you're doomed to repeat it.

Which is why I said earlier, if Arnel is struggling for whatever reason, I hope he speaks up.

If he needs some help and they do not deliver, then they really do need their arses kicking.

And anyway, they should know the warning signs by now.
If there ARE any, of course. This is just speculation.

[Michigan Girl]

Journey, who I like to refer to as the Mafia Hit Men of Rock and Roll,

Cain! - He lets you live.

Friga - makes me Live gives me purpose

Yeah, I'm scared!!!

[BobbyinTN]

They dont give a shit about Arnel or anyone but themselves. Im sure this time they have a plan B., just like they did when they diiched Augeri

That's sad, but probably true.

[bluejeangirl76]

Journey, who I like to refer to as the Mafia Hit Men of Rock and Roll,

Cain! - He lets you live.

Friga - makes me Live gives me purpose

Yeah, I'm scared!!!

You're scared to TEARS aren't you, MG?

(or are you just simply scared to overdramatic dry sobbing?)

(p.s. I'll be in hell, if anyone's looking for me. Take the 1st handbasket on your right...)

[Michigan Girl]

Journey, who I like to refer to as the Mafia Hit Men of Rock and Roll,

Cain! - He lets you live.

Friga - makes me Live gives me purpose

Yeah, I'm scared!!!

You're scared to TEARS aren't you, MG?

(or are you just simply scared to overdramatic dry sobbing?)

I'm scared you're going to get mad at me for using your av so much!!!!
I should take this opportunity to thank you....It's been a BLAST!!!!

[stevew2]

Im beginning to wonder about you two

[bluejeangirl76]

Journey, who I like to refer to as the Mafia Hit Men of Rock and Roll,

Cain! - He lets you live.

Friga - makes me Live gives me purpose

Yeah, I'm scared!!!

You're scared to TEARS aren't you, MG?

(or are you just simply scared to overdramatic dry sobbing?)

I'm scared you're going to get mad at me for using your av so much!!!!
I should take this opportunity to thank you....It's been a BLAST!!!!

If I'd known people were going to enjoy it that much I would have done it a long time ago.
Where's my god damned "bjg avatar appreciation thread"? LOL!

Believe it or not I have a worse one than that.

[Rhiannon]

Im beginning to wonder about you two

[stevew2]

Ahh a threesome

[Michigan Girl]

Journey, who I like to refer to as the Mafia Hit Men of Rock and Roll,

Cain! - He lets you live.

Friga - makes me Live gives me purpose

Yeah, I'm scared!!!

You're scared to TEARS aren't you, MG?

(or are you just simply scared to overdramatic dry sobbing?)

I'm scared you're going to get mad at me for using your av so much!!!!
I should take this opportunity to thank you....It's been a BLAST!!!!

If I'd known people were going to enjoy it that much I would have done it a long time ago.
Where's my god damned "bjg avatar appreciation thread"? LOL!

Believe it or not I have a worse one than that.

WOW....Tito, SW2 and I can't WAIT!!!!
Slap it up!!! :wink:

[stevew2]

lets tear it up

[JRNYLIVE]

good thing they have a few guys waiting on the bench... put me in coach.

[stevew2]

play ball

[wildone]

They dont give a shit about Arnel or anyone but themselves. Im sure this time they have a plan B., just like they did when they diiched Augeri

People actually see that???lmao Neal has always looked out for #1....the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ He can get another singer like a paper towel dispenser!He's shown it before ...he will show it again...Come on he has another divorce to pay for...