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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:10 am

wildone wrote:Come on he has another divorce to pay for... :roll:


Oh wow. That's quite original and classy.

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Postby stevew2 » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:10 am

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stevew2 wrote:They dont give a shit about Arnel or anyone but themselves. Im sure this time they have a plan B., just like they did when they diiched Augeri
People actually see that???lmao Neal has always looked out for #1....the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ He can get another singer like a paper towel dispenser!He's shown it before ...he will show it again...Come on he has another divorce to pay for... :roll:
Yes sir, Im sure he has a couple on speed dial on his cell
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Postby finalfight » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:12 am

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Red13JoePa wrote:Gunbot, who's that rather attractive young female in the av?

Day after day, there she is in yet another state of glorious undress.
He wont tell me her name or website, he wants to keep her all to himself greedy ass


Her name is Maiko Osawa. Google images is a real eye opener! :shock:
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Postby wildone » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:13 am

Rhiannon wrote:
wildone wrote:Come on he has another divorce to pay for... :roll:


Oh wow. That's quite original and classy.

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and yet so true!Come on get real as he's patting arnel on the back he's still looking for a place to put the next knife!
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Postby stevew2 » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:17 am

finalfight wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Gunbot, who's that rather attractive young female in the av?

Day after day, there she is in yet another state of glorious undress.
He wont tell me her name or website, he wants to keep her all to himself greedy ass


Her name is Maiko Osawa. Google images is a real eye opener! :shock:
thanks your busted gunbot
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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:18 am

wildone wrote:and yet so true!Come on get real as he's patting arnel on the back he's still looking for a place to put the next knife!


Don't tell me to get real, son. You want the reality of the situation, I don't give a damn why he tours or what he does. I tend to not let myself get wrapped up in the lives of people I don't know to the point where I'm only ever coming across to people as bitter and begrudging. Looking for a place to put the next knife? Hmm... right, because it makes sense to kill off the cash cow when the momentum hasn't even reached its apex.
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Postby Don » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:20 am

stevew2 wrote:
finalfight wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Gunbot, who's that rather attractive young female in the av?

Day after day, there she is in yet another state of glorious undress.
He wont tell me her name or website, he wants to keep her all to himself greedy ass


Her name is Maiko Osawa. Google images is a real eye opener! :shock:
thanks your busted gunbot

She is but one of many, Steve, one of many :lol:
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Postby wildone » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:24 am

Rhiannon wrote:
wildone wrote:and yet so true!Come on get real as he's patting arnel on the back he's still looking for a place to put the next knife!


Don't tell me to get real, son. You want the reality of the situation, I don't give a damn why he tours or what he does. I tend to not let myself get wrapped up in the lives of people I don't know to the point where I'm only ever coming across to people as bitter and begrudging. Looking for a place to put the next knife? Hmm... right, because it makes sense to kill off the cash cow when the momentum hasn't even reached its apex.
I'm not your son ...if so please oh please put me up for adoption... :roll: well yippie for you and what you think...but truth be told he uses people up and spits them out...
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Postby stevew2 » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:27 am

Gunbot wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
finalfight wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Gunbot, who's that rather attractive young female in the av?

Day after day, there she is in yet another state of glorious undress.
He wont tell me her name or website, he wants to keep her all to himself greedy ass


Her name is Maiko Osawa. Google images is a real eye opener! :shock:
thanks your busted gunbot

She is but one of many, Steve, one of many :lol:
i beleive that, I got your number now bud
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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:28 am

wildone wrote:but truth be told he uses people up and spits them out...


Regardless of the veracity in this statement, I find it interesting you figure this as Gospel. Did Neal hurt you, personally? Or are you going off he said/she said?

And furthermore... if he is indeed a user, why do you care? What sleep do you lose at night over some band guitarist's supposed undesirable business ethics?
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Postby wildone » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:29 am

Rhiannon wrote:
wildone wrote:but truth be told he uses people up and spits them out...


Regardless of the veracity in this statement, I find it interesting you figure this as Gospel. Did Neal hurt you, personally? Or are you going off he said/she said?

And furthermore... if he is indeed a user, why do you care? What sleep do you lose at night over some band guitarist's supposed undesirable business ethics?
well you treat those how you want to be treated ...I guess there's nothing to be said about loyalty anymore...
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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:38 am

wildone wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
wildone wrote:but truth be told he uses people up and spits them out...


Regardless of the veracity in this statement, I find it interesting you figure this as Gospel. Did Neal hurt you, personally? Or are you going off he said/she said?

And furthermore... if he is indeed a user, why do you care? What sleep do you lose at night over some band guitarist's supposed undesirable business ethics?

well you treat those how you want to be treated ...I guess there's nothing to be said about loyalty anymore...


Right, treat those how you want to be treated. So subtle digs at a man's personal life which you were not apart of and know nothing of whatever pain and strife and shattered hopes he may or may not have had are constituted as 'treating one the way you want to be treated'? Isn't it? ...Or isn't that just a bit hypocritical sounding when it's spelled out. :idea:
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Umm...WECH, that's a big hell no!

Postby ttango1 » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:45 am

No strain, while he might have missed a note(not many I can assure you), I would think it's because he is speedy Arnel, the guy runs all over the place, he changes levels, he doesn't even use the steps to get to the platform tops...no, homeboy just jumps to the top. In short, he isn't the stand-still singer many predicted he would be while using those YT clips singing back home in the bars and clubs of Asia.

SO AGAIN, HELL NO!!!! In fact, the guy sounds so much better now than he did in Vegas. If they could film that DVD now, what you'd see is Championship Form.
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Postby Don » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:52 am

Rhiannon wrote:
wildone wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
wildone wrote:but truth be told he uses people up and spits them out...


Regardless of the veracity in this statement, I find it interesting you figure this as Gospel. Did Neal hurt you, personally? Or are you going off he said/she said?

And furthermore... if he is indeed a user, why do you care? What sleep do you lose at night over some band guitarist's supposed undesirable business ethics?

well you treat those how you want to be treated ...I guess there's nothing to be said about loyalty anymore...


Right, treat those how you want to be treated. So subtle digs at a man's personal life which you were not apart of and know nothing of whatever pain and strife and shattered hopes he may or may not have had are constituted as 'treating one the way you want to be treated'? Isn't it? ...Or isn't that just a bit hypocritical sounding when it's spelled out. :idea:


I think I found the reason for the hostility. If that was my cat I'd be pissed at Neal also

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Postby wildone » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:04 am

Gunbot wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
wildone wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
wildone wrote:but truth be told he uses people up and spits them out...


Regardless of the veracity in this statement, I find it interesting you figure this as Gospel. Did Neal hurt you, personally? Or are you going off he said/she said?

And furthermore... if he is indeed a user, why do you care? What sleep do you lose at night over some band guitarist's supposed undesirable business ethics?

well you treat those how you want to be treated ...I guess there's nothing to be said about loyalty anymore...


Right, treat those how you want to be treated. So subtle digs at a man's personal life which you were not apart of and know nothing of whatever pain and strife and shattered hopes he may or may not have had are constituted as 'treating one the way you want to be treated'? Isn't it? ...Or isn't that just a bit hypocritical sounding when it's spelled out. :idea:


I think I found the reason for the hostility. If that was my cat I'd be pissed at Neal also

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lmao now that was funny tight there....
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Postby wildone » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:05 am

[]wheres his loyalty to his bandmates at???his loyalty is to no one but the all mighty$$$$$.... shattered hopes....lol to funny... you should write short stories.
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Postby Don » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:13 am

wildone wrote:[]wheres his loyalty to his bandmates at???his loyalty is to no one but the all mighty$$$$$.... shattered hopes....lol to funny... you should write short stories.


You said "treat those how you want to be treated "
You wouldn't want someone to air out your own shortcomings on the internet would you, but in the same breath you are doing exactly that to someone else. You do realize that you are contradicting yourself don't you?
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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:20 am

Gunbot wrote:
wildone wrote:[]wheres his loyalty to his bandmates at???his loyalty is to no one but the all mighty$$$$$.... shattered hopes....lol to funny... you should write short stories.


"treat those how you want to be treated " You wouldn't want someone to air out your own shortcomings on the internet would you. But in the same breath you are doing exactly that to someone else. You do realize that you are contradicting yourself don't you?


Thank you for reiterating my point.

Wildone, you need a hobby. You have too much emotionally invested in a group of individuals that you don't nor will never know on a personal basis. You have no right at all to stand and judge the character of any one of them. That makes you a hypocrite and a flagrant fool. I'm not calling you that, that is what you are doing to yourself.
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Postby wildone » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:21 am

Gunbot wrote:
wildone wrote:[]wheres his loyalty to his bandmates at???his loyalty is to no one but the all mighty$$$$$.... shattered hopes....lol to funny... you should write short stories.


You said"treat those how you want to be treated "
You wouldn't want someone to air out your own shortcomings on the internet would you, but in the same breath you are doing exactly that to someone else. You do realize that you are contradicting yourself don't you?
to funny ...so your saying if I would've left out the marriage part that would be ok?
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Postby wildone » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:22 am

Rhiannon wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
wildone wrote:[]wheres his loyalty to his bandmates at???his loyalty is to no one but the all mighty$$$$$.... shattered hopes....lol to funny... you should write short stories.


"treat those how you want to be treated " You wouldn't want someone to air out your own shortcomings on the internet would you. But in the same breath you are doing exactly that to someone else. You do realize that you are contradicting yourself don't you?


Thank you for reiterating my point.

Wildone, you need a hobby. You have too much emotionally invested in a group of individuals that you don't nor will never know on a personal basis. You have no right at all to stand and judge the character of any one of them. That makes you a hypocrite and a flagrant fool. I'm not calling you that, that is what you are doing to yourself.
well then marriage left out of it ...it's ok for him to treat the exband members the way he did?
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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:26 am

wildone wrote:well then marriage left out of it ...it's ok for him to treat the exband members the way he did?


1.) Treated them how? ...Provide substantiating proof of your claims, NOT just things you've come to learn over internet posts and filling in the gaps with your imagination.

2.) I wasn't there. I wouldn't know how anyone got treated so it is not my place to judge Neal's character and whether it is "right" or "wrong". Nor is it yours.
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Postby wildone » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:28 am

Rhiannon wrote:
wildone wrote:well then marriage left out of it ...it's ok for him to treat the exband members the way he did?


1.) Treated them how? ...Provide substantiating proof of your claims, NOT just things you've come to learn over internet posts and filling in the gaps with your imagination.

2.) I wasn't there. I wouldn't know how anyone got treated so it is not my place to judge Neal's character and whether it is "right" or "wrong". Nor is it yours.
thats right I can't have an opinion on anything can I? :roll: you mean how he said he was happy people found out about tapegate? etcetc
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Postby Don » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:30 am

wildone wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
wildone wrote:[]wheres his loyalty to his bandmates at???his loyalty is to no one but the all mighty$$$$$.... shattered hopes....lol to funny... you should write short stories.


You said"treat those how you want to be treated "
You wouldn't want someone to air out your own shortcomings on the internet would you, but in the same breath you are doing exactly that to someone else. You do realize that you are contradicting yourself don't you?
to funny ...so your saying if I would've left out the marriage part that would be ok?

Your statement doesn't leave room for selectivity. If I don't mention that you are divorced, but I say you're an alcoholic is that fair to you?
Do you think that Neal's exbandmates care that you continue (in your opinion) to fight the good fight for them. Maybe your time would be better served mentoring a child or volunteering in your community. To do character assasinations on a message board can't leave you with that much emotional fulfillment can it?
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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:37 am

wildone wrote:thats right I can't have an opinion on anything can I? :roll: you mean how he said he was happy people found out about tapegate? etcetc


Sure... opinionize away. Its just a wasted effort, is all. My main point was about the divorce comment. However, you've contradicted yourself enough to where I see your ethics are about as genuine as you perceive Neal's to be.
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Postby wildone » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:37 am

Gunbot wrote:
wildone wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
wildone wrote:[]wheres his loyalty to his bandmates at???his loyalty is to no one but the all mighty$$$$$.... shattered hopes....lol to funny... you should write short stories.


You said"treat those how you want to be treated "
You wouldn't want someone to air out your own shortcomings on the internet would you, but in the same breath you are doing exactly that to someone else. You do realize that you are contradicting yourself don't you?
to funny ...so your saying if I would've left out the marriage part that would be ok?

Your statement doesn't leave room for selectivity. If I don't mention that you are divorced, but I say you're an alcoholic is that fair to you?
Do you think that Neal's exbandmates care that you continue (in your opinion) to fight the good fight for them. Maybe your time would be better served mentoring a child or volunteering in your community. To do character assasinations on a message board can't leave you with that much emotional fulfillment can it?
and maybe your time responding could be seved better else where ever thought of that?Hey it's just my opinion ...if you don't like it that's your choice...god i love america!
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Postby separate_wayz » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:46 am

My time will be best used to make romance explosions on ttango's avatar. :shock:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:52 am

Rhiannon wrote:
wildone wrote:well then marriage left out of it ...it's ok for him to treat the exband members the way he did?


1.) Treated them how? ...Provide substantiating proof of your claims, NOT just things you've come to learn over internet posts and filling in the gaps with your imagination.

2.) I wasn't there. I wouldn't know how anyone got treated so it is not my place to judge Neal's character and whether it is "right" or "wrong". Nor is it yours.


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Postby wildone » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:53 am

separate_wayz wrote:My time will be best used to make romance explosions on ttango's avatar. :shock:
LMAO now that's funny right there... :lol: :lol:
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Postby RobbieG » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:53 am

wildone wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
wildone wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
wildone wrote:[]wheres his loyalty to his bandmates at???his loyalty is to no one but the all mighty$$$$$.... shattered hopes....lol to funny... you should write short stories.


You said"treat those how you want to be treated "
You wouldn't want someone to air out your own shortcomings on the internet would you, but in the same breath you are doing exactly that to someone else. You do realize that you are contradicting yourself don't you?
to funny ...so your saying if I would've left out the marriage part that would be ok?

Your statement doesn't leave room for selectivity. If I don't mention that you are divorced, but I say you're an alcoholic is that fair to you?
Do you think that Neal's exbandmates care that you continue (in your opinion) to fight the good fight for them. Maybe your time would be better served mentoring a child or volunteering in your community. To do character assasinations on a message board can't leave you with that much emotional fulfillment can it?
and maybe your time responding could be seved better else where ever thought of that?Hey it's just my opinion ...if you don't like it that's your choice...god i love america!



Woldone seems both posters have good points. You sound like the Journey bashers on the other 2 forums.
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Postby wildone » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:56 am

RobbieG wrote:
wildone wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
wildone wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
wildone wrote:[]wheres his loyalty to his bandmates at???his loyalty is to no one but the all mighty$$$$$.... shattered hopes....lol to funny... you should write short stories.


You said"treat those how you want to be treated "
You wouldn't want someone to air out your own shortcomings on the internet would you, but in the same breath you are doing exactly that to someone else. You do realize that you are contradicting yourself don't you?
to funny ...so your saying if I would've left out the marriage part that would be ok?

Your statement doesn't leave room for selectivity. If I don't mention that you are divorced, but I say you're an alcoholic is that fair to you?
Do you think that Neal's exbandmates care that you continue (in your opinion) to fight the good fight for them. Maybe your time would be better served mentoring a child or volunteering in your community. To do character assasinations on a message board can't leave you with that much emotional fulfillment can it?
and maybe your time responding could be seved better else where ever thought of that?Hey it's just my opinion ...if you don't like it that's your choice...god i love america!



Woldone seems both posters have good points. You sound like the Journey bashers on the other 2 forums.
you know she's right I should practice what I preach ...but the way he treated band members still stands ...and it was my bad to bring up his personal life!
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