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Re: A not so great San Diego show review

Postby kmjrr » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:44 am

Tomulator wrote:[
But "dead nuts" accurate in spots.

Truth hurts.
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Like this?

"and drummer Steve Smith was subsequently canned"
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:50 am

Douchebags like this give young journalism students a bad rap.

I'm out of school for awhile now, but when in high school and college I was one of the few writers that actually took my time to:

1) Make the article readable

2) Research it completely

3) Double-check all my sources

and

4) NOT SUCK!!

It's alright to have a negative opinion about something, but that's only if you've done your research, been there, kept your facts straight, and been fair with your criteria.
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Postby journeypower » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:26 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:Douchebags like this give young journalism students a bad rap.

I'm out of school for awhile now, but when in high school and college I was one of the few writers that actually took my time to:

1) Make the article readable

2) Research it completely

3) Double-check all my sources

and

4) NOT SUCK!!

It's alright to have a negative opinion about something, but that's only if you've done your research, been there, kept your facts straight, and been fair with your criteria.


but on second thought, he/she might be a freshman !!! guess this is his/her baptism of fire ! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Here's my review of that same show. Guess we differ?

Postby ttango1 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:29 am

There is a noted photographer and journalist named Jacob Riis who rose to fame during the "muckraker" era of the late 1800's to the early 1900's. Why am I starting a review of the San Diego concert of Journey with a shout out to Riis?

It's because of this quote that Riis is well noted for,“When nothing seems to help, I go look at a stonecutter hammering away at his rock perhaps a hundred times without as much as a crack showing in it. Yet at the hundred and first blow it will split in two, and I know it was not that blow that did it, but all that had gone before.”

It's funny. Fans that really know Journey have heard the phrase, "Don't crack the stone." from both Steve Perry and Neal Schon. When heard, for whatever reason, it has a negative connotation but when that statement is compared to Riis' statement, One can surmise that"Cracking the stone" is a metaphor for success.

AND THAT IS WHAT THIS BAND HAS DONE. They've shaped themselves into a incarnation of "Journey" that can pay homage to the past but "look into the future" with great expectations.



It took forever for the crew to change sets from Heart to Journey. Both Heart and Cheap Trick played many of their staples and Heart's covers of Love Reign O'er Me (The Who) and Going To California (Led Zeppelin) were old-school crowd pleasers.

Like the Joker says in Batman, Dark Knight...HERE WE GO!

The guys came out at 9:30 PM PST.

Here is the setlist for Journey:
Majestic

Never Walk Away-It's great that they start off the vocals with a song from Revelation, it sets the tone that something new is about to make a proclamation that we're about to rock. http://youtube.com/watch?v=C5pXdm18o-Q&feature=related

Only the Young

Neal Solo-Amazing Grace

Stone in Love-Yes, I'm biased but Arnel now simply kills this song. He's come a long way since that 1st nervous show at Vina del Mar. http://youtube.com/watch?v=TCjEbYl-D2U&feature=related

Ask The Lonely-Finally Jon gets to tickle the keys, that was 5 straight songs that Jon played rhythm guitar. Is that a record?

After All These Years

Seperate Ways-Old school guys behind me are telling me now that this kid(Arnel) wails and wonder why it's only now that they're back to selling out venues. Their opinion is that Journey is better than ever. Again, I'm biased but I agree. http://youtube.com/watch?v=noO1ZVh4xIs&feature=related


Change For The Better http://youtube.com/watch?v=koXJ6qLwm8Y&feature=related

Send Her My Love-You know the Denver vid where Neal's signature guitar is missing, while it was an interesting change, with his guitar playing...this song was really a crowd favorite.

Lights-Here Arnel talks about his "New" Hometown-San Francisco. You see a nice video montage of what the peeps there call,"The City."

Jon Intro Solo but this one is more jazzy in it's composition.

Open Arms Check the link, you can hear the crowd singin' in the background. http://youtube.com/watch?v=gaKxrzutdqs

Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'

Don't Stop Believin' http://youtube.com/watch?v=YVvzNrWC6wU
This is what was on the screen after the song:
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Wildest Dreams

Jon on Harmonica & Neal Jam Solo

Wheel In The Sky http://youtube.com/watch?v=AASgLWL7fiI&feature=related


Any Way You Want It

Encores

Escape
Faithfully(Arnel here at the beginning, tells the crowd that he received a text from home in Olongapo that "Amy" is fighting bone cancer and has been told that she has only 24 hours to live, he tells the crowd that this song is for her and to keep fighting the good fight.)

END OF CONCERT save the long slow crawl out of the parking lots-

So what's one to say after witnessing such an event? How about...IT WAS AWESOME. The guys simply brought it, they came out and rocked the house with their fervent energy and new found passion.

There was a proportinate mix of Journey fans both old and new. Many sporting their Ol' Skool' ESCAPE Tees and many new fans buying the $35 Revelation Tour shirt(It's not a bad looking shirt but where are the images of the guys we so appreciate?) The CD set was being sold there as well for $15.

Let's talk concert. I found it to be better than the Vegas show in March. Deen and Neal were standouts with their play, while Jon and Ross did their part to keep things flowing. They didn't really go that far out of their comfort zones and they just let Arnel wail. That dude, man, he hit all the key changes and high, high notes. My only complaint is that the guy runs around so much. It could help him a little later when his voice needs some focus, to conserve at times and then explode when needed. But so far, it seems as if explosion is his sole choice, and the crowd showed their appreciation with their loud and steady applause. The girls were dancing everywhere looking like they were loving every second of it. The guys were heard in the background singing an ocatave or 2 lower or off-key but hey, it's Journey right? It's All Good.

Yeah Arnel looked funny in Yellow Pants and what I think was a Dark Navy muscle shirt.(Charger Reference, this is San Diego right?) But it made it easy to see him wherever he goes and like I said, he goes everywhere.

Whoever said that Neal looks like James Caan from the 70's, well I tend to agree. Here is a pic of Mr. Caan from that 70's era: Image

Take a look at any Neal Photo now :)
While the resemblance is there, Mr. Caan would kneel to Neal in appreciation of the genius of his fingers on guitar.

On this San Diego night, Arnel sang lead the whole way. I did miss Deen singing either After The Fall or Mother Father.For me, when I was at the Planet Hollywood in March, those 2 songs were definite highlights of that particular show. Not hearing Deen's leads was slightly dissapointing but Arnel showed us all why he is a force with his voice. Deen's background vocals are readily heard and integral to bringing that legacy sound to fruition and he sang and drummed with so much passion, you could see and hear it. If one tried to filter out crowd noise, you could hear the background highs of DSB loud and clear when Arnel stops to say sing with me or come on(truthfully, he didn't say it so much to irk you like he did when in Chile').

Jon and Ross played a solid performance. Their contributions were heard and while not as glamorous, just as important and they played well enough. Jon did have his requisite solo and did a jam with Neal on the harmonica, for that I can say Mr. Cain, is a talented dude.

The venue is cool enough, the lawn view was much different than the one I had at PH. 12 row center, close enough to get on the DVD. On this day, in order to see the ants on the stage, I had to use the screens. Sucky thing is only center stage and stage left screens were working. Stage Right was killed after the Heart set because it wasn't bright enough to show practically anything. I also hate that we pay good money to watch the band, so why is the mix on the center vid-screen practically 50% the guys, and 50% Windows Screen Saver?

Well, I guess that's it. I admit that I'm a little rambly and incoherent when I write, my wife bugs me about it at times but I just write what I feel. And what I feel mostly is this, for those who haven't yet seen this Journey...Come in knowing that SP isn't singing and then be prepared for a great show. AP is now at the helm of the flying scarab and if you just listen, you'll go away with a huge, huge smile at the end of a beautiful night.
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:44 am

journeypower wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:Douchebags like this give young journalism students a bad rap.

I'm out of school for awhile now, but when in high school and college I was one of the few writers that actually took my time to:

1) Make the article readable

2) Research it completely

3) Double-check all my sources

and

4) NOT SUCK!!

It's alright to have a negative opinion about something, but that's only if you've done your research, been there, kept your facts straight, and been fair with your criteria.


but on second thought, he/she might be a freshman !!! guess this is his/her baptism of fire ! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Hey, as a freshman one of my articles was chosen as "Article of the Year" by the English and Communications departments.

Not an excuse. :wink:
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Re: Here's my review of that same show. Guess we differ?

Postby Tomulator » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:31 pm

ttango1 wrote:There is a noted photographer and journalist named Jacob Riis who rose to fame during the "muckraker" era of the late 1800's to the early 1900's. Why am I starting a review of the San Diego concert of Journey with a shout out to Riis?

It's because of this quote that Riis is well noted for,“When nothing seems to help, I go look at a stonecutter hammering away at his rock perhaps a hundred times without as much as a crack showing in it. Yet at the hundred and first blow it will split in two, and I know it was not that blow that did it, but all that had gone before.”

It's funny. Fans that really know Journey have heard the phrase, "Don't crack the stone." from both Steve Perry and Neal Schon. When heard, for whatever reason, it has a negative connotation but when that statement is compared to Riis' statement, One can surmise that"Cracking the stone" is a metaphor for success.

AND THAT IS WHAT THIS BAND HAS DONE. They've shaped themselves into a incarnation of "Journey" that can pay homage to the past but "look into the future" with great expectations.



It took forever for the crew to change sets from Heart to Journey. Both Heart and Cheap Trick played many of their staples and Heart's covers of Love Reign O'er Me (The Who) and Going To California (Led Zeppelin) were old-school crowd pleasers.

Like the Joker says in Batman, Dark Knight...HERE WE GO!

The guys came out at 9:30 PM PST.

Here is the setlist for Journey:
Majestic

Never Walk Away-It's great that they start off the vocals with a song from Revelation, it sets the tone that something new is about to make a proclamation that we're about to rock. http://youtube.com/watch?v=C5pXdm18o-Q&feature=related

Only the Young

Neal Solo-Amazing Grace

Stone in Love-Yes, I'm biased but Arnel now simply kills this song. He's come a long way since that 1st nervous show at Vina del Mar. http://youtube.com/watch?v=TCjEbYl-D2U&feature=related

Ask The Lonely-Finally Jon gets to tickle the keys, that was 5 straight songs that Jon played rhythm guitar. Is that a record?

After All These Years

Seperate Ways-Old school guys behind me are telling me now that this kid(Arnel) wails and wonder why it's only now that they're back to selling out venues. Their opinion is that Journey is better than ever. Again, I'm biased but I agree. http://youtube.com/watch?v=noO1ZVh4xIs&feature=related


Change For The Better http://youtube.com/watch?v=koXJ6qLwm8Y&feature=related

Send Her My Love-You know the Denver vid where Neal's signature guitar is missing, while it was an interesting change, with his guitar playing...this song was really a crowd favorite.

Lights-Here Arnel talks about his "New" Hometown-San Francisco. You see a nice video montage of what the peeps there call,"The City."

Jon Intro Solo but this one is more jazzy in it's composition.

Open Arms Check the link, you can hear the crowd singin' in the background. http://youtube.com/watch?v=gaKxrzutdqs

Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'

Don't Stop Believin' http://youtube.com/watch?v=YVvzNrWC6wU
This is what was on the screen after the song:
Image

Wildest Dreams

Jon on Harmonica & Neal Jam Solo

Wheel In The Sky http://youtube.com/watch?v=AASgLWL7fiI&feature=related


Any Way You Want It

Encores

Escape
Faithfully(Arnel here at the beginning, tells the crowd that he received a text from home in Olongapo that "Amy" is fighting bone cancer and has been told that she has only 24 hours to live, he tells the crowd that this song is for her and to keep fighting the good fight.)

END OF CONCERT save the long slow crawl out of the parking lots-

So what's one to say after witnessing such an event? How about...IT WAS AWESOME. The guys simply brought it, they came out and rocked the house with their fervent energy and new found passion.

There was a proportinate mix of Journey fans both old and new. Many sporting their Ol' Skool' ESCAPE Tees and many new fans buying the $35 Revelation Tour shirt(It's not a bad looking shirt but where are the images of the guys we so appreciate?) The CD set was being sold there as well for $15.

Let's talk concert. I found it to be better than the Vegas show in March. Deen and Neal were standouts with their play, while Jon and Ross did their part to keep things flowing. They didn't really go that far out of their comfort zones and they just let Arnel wail. That dude, man, he hit all the key changes and high, high notes. My only complaint is that the guy runs around so much. It could help him a little later when his voice needs some focus, to conserve at times and then explode when needed. But so far, it seems as if explosion is his sole choice, and the crowd showed their appreciation with their loud and steady applause. The girls were dancing everywhere looking like they were loving every second of it. The guys were heard in the background singing an ocatave or 2 lower or off-key but hey, it's Journey right? It's All Good.

Yeah Arnel looked funny in Yellow Pants and what I think was a Dark Navy muscle shirt.(Charger Reference, this is San Diego right?) But it made it easy to see him wherever he goes and like I said, he goes everywhere.

Whoever said that Neal looks like James Caan from the 70's, well I tend to agree. Here is a pic of Mr. Caan from that 70's era: Image

Take a look at any Neal Photo now :)
While the resemblance is there, Mr. Caan would kneel to Neal in appreciation of the genius of his fingers on guitar.

On this San Diego night, Arnel sang lead the whole way. I did miss Deen singing either After The Fall or Mother Father.For me, when I was at the Planet Hollywood in March, those 2 songs were definite highlights of that particular show. Not hearing Deen's leads was slightly dissapointing but Arnel showed us all why he is a force with his voice. Deen's background vocals are readily heard and integral to bringing that legacy sound to fruition and he sang and drummed with so much passion, you could see and hear it. If one tried to filter out crowd noise, you could hear the background highs of DSB loud and clear when Arnel stops to say sing with me or come on(truthfully, he didn't say it so much to irk you like he did when in Chile').

Jon and Ross played a solid performance. Their contributions were heard and while not as glamorous, just as important and they played well enough. Jon did have his requisite solo and did a jam with Neal on the harmonica, for that I can say Mr. Cain, is a talented dude.

The venue is cool enough, the lawn view was much different than the one I had at PH. 12 row center, close enough to get on the DVD. On this day, in order to see the ants on the stage, I had to use the screens. Sucky thing is only center stage and stage left screens were working. Stage Right was killed after the Heart set because it wasn't bright enough to show practically anything. I also hate that we pay good money to watch the band, so why is the mix on the center vid-screen practically 50% the guys, and 50% Windows Screen Saver?

Well, I guess that's it. I admit that I'm a little rambly and incoherent when I write, my wife bugs me about it at times but I just write what I feel. And what I feel mostly is this, for those who haven't yet seen this Journey...Come in knowing that SP isn't singing and then be prepared for a great show. AP is now at the helm of the flying scarab and if you just listen, you'll go away with a huge, huge smile at the end of a beautiful night.



Do you not have ears????!

Listen to Stone In Love again and tell me he "kills" it.

No way. He is struggling mightly to hit the high notes...really bad.

Sorry.

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Re: Here's my review of that same show. Guess we differ?

Postby Rick » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:50 pm

Tomulator wrote:Listen to Stone In Love again and tell me he "kills" it.

No way. He is struggling mightly to hit the high notes...really bad.

Sorry.

:!:


Not his finest work on disc 2, for sure.

It's still not his greatest song, but he's gotten better at it I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb7EVH1-NV8
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Re: Here's my review of that same show. Guess we differ?

Postby Since 78 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:00 pm

Rick wrote:
Tomulator wrote:Listen to Stone In Love again and tell me he "kills" it.

No way. He is struggling mightly to hit the high notes...really bad.

Sorry.

:!:


Not his finest work on disc 2, for sure.

It's still not his greatest song, but he's gotten better at it I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb7EVH1-NV8


That is better.However, one problem that others have pointed out is that he runs around to much and I think he sounds winded at times which effects his vocals.
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Postby Don » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:06 pm

One thing Perry could do was switch from headvoice to falsetto on the fly as he was running around so he wouldn't get so winded. I think Arnel drops from headvoice back into his chestvoice when he is in the same situation. I also think the guy is going to sprain something one of these days if he doesn't slow down with all the onstage calisthenics.
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Postby Since 78 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:11 pm

Gunbot wrote:One thing Perry could do was switch from headvoice to falsetto on the fly as he was running around so he wouldn't get so winded. I think Arnel drops from headvoice to a some type of baritone sound when he is in the same situation. I also think the guy is going to sprain something one of these days if he doesn't slow down with all the onstage calisthenics.


And Perry didn't run around constantly. Arnel only stands still for ballads.
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Postby Rick » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:27 pm

Gunbot wrote:One thing Perry could do was switch from headvoice to falsetto on the fly as he was running around so he wouldn't get so winded. I think Arnel drops from headvoice back into his chestvoice when he is in the same situation. I also think the guy is going to sprain something one of these days if he doesn't slow down with all the onstage calisthenics.


Yeah, I keep worrying that he's going to sprain an ankle on one of those drum riser jumps. For a little dude, he's got a pretty damn good vertical leap. :lol:
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Postby stevew2 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:43 pm

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Eric wrote:This review was written before he/she even saw Journey. It happens all the time with critics. They hate Journey....

Then how'd they know they closed with "Faithfully"?
They did the same thing they did on the 2001 Dvd, exactly,that was retarded,you they say alcohol kills brain cells. Neal and Friga are missing a few.Dont rehash old concerts, shit you have 30 plus song you can do.SPs would be better, or Be good. wtf?
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Postby Rick » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:45 pm

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Eric wrote:This review was written before he/she even saw Journey. It happens all the time with critics. They hate Journey....

Then how'd they know they closed with "Faithfully"?
They did the same thing they did on the 2001 Dvd, exactly,that was retarded,you they say alcohol kills brain cells. Neal and Friga are missing a few.Dont rehash old concerts, shit you have 30 plus song you can do.SPs would be better, or Be good. wtf?


That's a very good point.
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Postby Don » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:50 pm

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Gunbot wrote:One thing Perry could do was switch from headvoice to falsetto on the fly as he was running around so he wouldn't get so winded. I think Arnel drops from headvoice back into his chestvoice when he is in the same situation. I also think the guy is going to sprain something one of these days if he doesn't slow down with all the onstage calisthenics.


Yeah, I keep worrying that he's going to sprain an ankle on one of those drum riser jumps. For a little dude, he's got a pretty damn good vertical leap. :lol:


They are basketball fanatics in the philippines, I'm sure he was playing everyday as a kid. Even if you're poor that's one game you can play with nothing more than a nailed up fruitbasket and and any round object that somewhat resembles a ball. And the amazing thing is they do all that running and jumping in wifebeaters and flip flops. That's where he got the vertical leap from.
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Postby Rick » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:52 pm

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Gunbot wrote:One thing Perry could do was switch from headvoice to falsetto on the fly as he was running around so he wouldn't get so winded. I think Arnel drops from headvoice back into his chestvoice when he is in the same situation. I also think the guy is going to sprain something one of these days if he doesn't slow down with all the onstage calisthenics.


Yeah, I keep worrying that he's going to sprain an ankle on one of those drum riser jumps. For a little dude, he's got a pretty damn good vertical leap. :lol:


They are basketball fanatics in the philippines, I'm sure he was playing everyday as a kid. Even if you're poor that's one game you can play with nothing more than a nailed up fruitbasket and and any round object that somewhat resembles a ball. And the amazing thing is they do all that running and jumping in wifebeaters and flip flops. That's where he got the vertical leap from.


Wow. Well if his voice doesn't hold out, maybe he could try out for the Golden State Warriors. :lol:
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Postby Don » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:53 pm

They need to shock everybody and go from "Majestic" straight into "Line of fire", complete with gunshot pyrotechnics. Then you'll see who the bandwagoners are and who are the oldtimers. :lol:
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Postby Moon Beam » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:09 pm

Good reads, thanks for posting this Barb.
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Postby Playitloudforme » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:18 pm

I met a couple today in the cafe across the street from where I work. She walked in wearing an "Escape" logo shirt. I spoke up, naturally, said "Great taste in music!". I asked them if they'd seen Arnel yet.

She said, "I dunno, did we? We saw them last week." I said, then you saw Arnel. What did you think?

He said, "yeah...the new guy. If you close your eyes, you think it's Perry. But then you open your eyes, and it's off. It was like Karaoke."

He kept referring to the lack of stage presence really hurting the performance. This is from a regular fan out there. Arnel has to work on it if he's going to win anyone over. Vocals won't hold their attention alone.
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Postby stevew2 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:25 pm

Gunbot wrote:They need to shock everybody and go from "Majestic" straight into "Line of fire", complete with gunshot pyrotechnics. Then you'll see who the bandwagoners are and who are the oldtimers. :lol:
They wont do that, look what happen to Great White, or White Snake [or of them old hair bands}
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:00 pm

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Gunbot wrote:One thing Perry could do was switch from headvoice to falsetto on the fly as he was running around so he wouldn't get so winded. I think Arnel drops from headvoice back into his chestvoice when he is in the same situation. I also think the guy is going to sprain something one of these days if he doesn't slow down with all the onstage calisthenics.


Yeah, I keep worrying that he's going to sprain an ankle on one of those drum riser jumps. For a little dude, he's got a pretty damn good vertical leap. :lol:


ahhh.. the best journey singer jumping was Steve A. trying to hop up on Cains piano but falling 2 feet short in the vegas 2001 dvd.. :lol:
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Postby sal45evan » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:27 pm

Journey and Arnel has been in this business for 30 years...and this writers knows better as far as how this talented musician do their job. If she's right...why is it so far all their concerts venues are all sold out dah!!!
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Postby finalfight » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:39 pm

Playitloudforme wrote:I met a couple today in the cafe across the street from where I work. She walked in wearing an "Escape" logo shirt. I spoke up, naturally, said "Great taste in music!". I asked them if they'd seen Arnel yet.

She said, "I dunno, did we? We saw them last week." I said, then you saw Arnel. What did you think?

He said, "yeah...the new guy. If you close your eyes, you think it's Perry. But then you open your eyes, and it's off. It was like Karaoke."

He kept referring to the lack of stage presence really hurting the performance. This is from a regular fan out there. Arnel has to work on it if he's going to win anyone over. Vocals won't hold their attention alone.


Lack of stage presence? This dude has got to be kidding. Perhaps he had his eyes closed the entire show. If nothing else Arnel's has bags of energy and enthusiasm on stage and is a veritable whirlwind in motion. Obviously this sticks in the craw of those fans who prefer to see slightly more static front men. Maybe there was something in the moonwalk wiggling or the mic drop/hair toss routine after all.
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Postby finalfight » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:40 pm

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Gunbot wrote:One thing Perry could do was switch from headvoice to falsetto on the fly as he was running around so he wouldn't get so winded. I think Arnel drops from headvoice back into his chestvoice when he is in the same situation. I also think the guy is going to sprain something one of these days if he doesn't slow down with all the onstage calisthenics.


Yeah, I keep worrying that he's going to sprain an ankle on one of those drum riser jumps. For a little dude, he's got a pretty damn good vertical leap. :lol:


ahhh.. the best journey singer jumping was Steve A. trying to hop up on Cains piano but falling 2 feet short in the vegas 2001 dvd.. :lol:


I think his hip gave out enroute. :lol:
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Re: Here's my review of that same show. Guess we differ?

Postby Tomulator » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:38 pm

Rick wrote:
Tomulator wrote:Listen to Stone In Love again and tell me he "kills" it.

No way. He is struggling mightly to hit the high notes...really bad.

Sorry.

:!:


Not his finest work on disc 2, for sure.

It's still not his greatest song, but he's gotten better at it I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb7EVH1-NV8


I'm talking about the YouTube link provided above...stinks on SIL.
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Re: Here's my review of that same show. Guess we differ?

Postby Tomulator » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:40 pm

Rick wrote:
Tomulator wrote:Listen to Stone In Love again and tell me he "kills" it.

No way. He is struggling mightly to hit the high notes...really bad.

Sorry.

:!:


Not his finest work on disc 2, for sure.

It's still not his greatest song, but he's gotten better at it I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb7EVH1-NV8


No offense but...YUCK!

Listen to his voice cracking all over teh end of the word "Lifetime"

Then, he's really struggling on the high notes thereafter...am I the only one hearing this?!

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Postby Tomulator » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:43 pm

Playitloudforme wrote:I met a couple today in the cafe across the street from where I work. She walked in wearing an "Escape" logo shirt. I spoke up, naturally, said "Great taste in music!". I asked them if they'd seen Arnel yet.

She said, "I dunno, did we? We saw them last week." I said, then you saw Arnel. What did you think?

He said, "yeah...the new guy. If you close your eyes, you think it's Perry. But then you open your eyes, and it's off. It was like Karaoke."

He kept referring to the lack of stage presence really hurting the performance. This is from a regular fan out there. Arnel has to work on it if he's going to win anyone over. Vocals won't hold their attention alone.


Steve "Perryoke" to be exact...

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Postby Tomulator » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:45 pm

sal45evan wrote:Journey and Arnel has been in this business for 30 years...and this writers knows better as far as how this talented musician do their job. If she's right...why is it so far all their concerts venues are all sold out dah!!!


Uhh...we speaka da ENGLISH around here buddy.

Work on it ok?

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Postby Greg » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:38 pm

Take the same article, written with the same "research" effort and turn it around in a positive light. I bet most of you guys would say how great the article was for a college paper. :lol:
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Postby Saint John » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:45 pm

Hey, if this is what the guy thought, well then it's what he thought...big deal. He's entitled to his opinion. I take this review just like I did the Perry and Soto Journey reviews. Perry was routinely blasted by every major critic/article in the business and Soto got a LOT of positive reviews. I'll leave it at that. :wink: :twisted:
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Postby journeypower » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:21 pm

Greg wrote:Take the same article, written with the same "research" effort and turn it around in a positive light. I bet most of you guys would say how great the article was for a college paper. :lol:



not really. it merely described the opposite experience of what actually transpired for most people in the concert. let's say more like there is an actual apple on the table, but the writer said "orange" otherwise. :lol: :lol: :lol:


it would had been better if he/she further reiterated that it was just his/her personal opinion/feelings and not facts of the matter whatsoever. what I read observed about the article is that the writer tried to put or highlight his/her personal feelings by virtue of adding a few facts inorder to make a valid point in his/her article. the assessment alone is not a fair/credible one. the writer didn't even mention one, anybody or ask a soul how did they feel about the concert. when you try to make an assessment on other people's opinion, make sure that you ask them, and not put words in them.


Fans were actually sitting during the encore, leaving this writer to think that Journey had broken several of those rock band rules: They ended with a ballad, they didn't save their hits for the end and they apparently don't know when to call it quits


I can't make something logical out of this statement but pure opinion.


"a 100 people didn't like the concert coz that's how I felt when I was there". this would had been valid if most people would back this up. absence of such support would determine it's invalidity.



again, opinions are ok but make sure that you state them clearly and leave the facts out of it if you're not going to do some further research. if not, prepare yourself to a lot of complaints. that's how it is.
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