OT: Take That, Liberals!

[The_Noble_Cause]

I don’t come here to jawbone political, I only respond to existing threads.

You keep saying this as if it's something worthy of honor on your part. Get another mantra, for crying out loud.

The only time I’ve ever said this is when a Conservative eggs me on to address an issue so insanely removed from the original topic as to be located in some 99% fact-free wingnut parallel universe.
What little time I have is spent reading up on Journey news, or quickly correcting what I know to be pattent lies.
As someone who can think of positively nothing better to do than post threads praising Tom “K-Steet Project” Delay, I wouldn’t expect you to understand.

Conservative talk radio is a repeating turntable screech.
The fact that it ended in spilt innocent blood should come as little surprise.

[conversationpc]

Conservative talk radio is a repeating turntable screech.
The fact that it ended in spilt innocent blood should come as no surprise.

You say something like this about conservative talk radio yet you seem to parrot the far left views on a daily basis. Polly want a cracker???

[The_Noble_Cause]

You say something like this about conservative talk radio yet you seem to parrot the far left views on a daily basis. Polly want a cracker???

My views aren’t “far left,” at least no moreso than FDR - a.k.a. only the most popular US president in history.
While you were presumably stocking canned goods in your steel-reinforced end-of-times bunker, the national landscape underwent a hard tectonic shift right.
Besides, I fail to see what policy prescriptions have to do with the murderous AM radio carnival barkers that gave this deluded man his marching orders and pointed him in the right direction.
In addition to answering to no one, (Howard Stern was dragged and quartered by the FCC a hundred times over for far, far less), they are the current face of the modern Conservative movement.

Like the fate of Father Coughlin, it will take bold presidential leadership to stamp out these flaming shitbags.

[Skylorde]

Again, you find me an article where someone quoted some angry, liberal-slanted position and then began killing people, and I will acquiesce.

Well...let's think big numbers for a minute. I mean, really, *REALLY* big numbers.

I don't know if he was pissed off, I'm pretty sure he was. He was arguably insane. His atrocities to his fellow countrymen make the jewish halocaust look like a simple drive by shooting in comparison. The exact numbers will never be known for lack of accurate record keeping but it is likely 10-20+ million victims died under his orders. They called it the "Great Purge", it definately thinned the herd quite a bit.

I'm sure you've heard of Josef Stalin. Extreme yes, Liberal slanted views no doubt.

[7 Wishes]

Oh, fuck off. You know that is a completely different issue. And liberalism is not equatable with communism AT ALL.

[Skylorde]

Oh, fuck off. You know that is a completely different issue. And liberalism is not equatable with communism AT ALL.

I gave you exactly what you asked for. Is that the best response you can come up with?

[conversationpc]

Besides, I fail to see what policy prescriptions have to do with the murderous AM radio carnival barkers that gave this deluded man his marching orders and pointed him in the right direction.

Seek help, please. You are truly part of the loony left if you're laying any of the blame on this to conservative talk radio.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Seek help, please. You are truly part of the loony left if you're laying any of the blame on this to conservative talk radio.

This isn’t worth arguing.
The stockpile of Savage and Hannity books now in police custody, in addition to the guys four page “killing liberals” mini-manifesto makes the case for me.
Just like the nut who mailed Olbermann anthrax was a registered member of FreeRepublic.com

The church shooter’s mental disease may have rendered him more susceptible to the right’s inciteful rhetoric, but he was nevertheless inspired by these tubthumping extremists.

[7 Wishes]

Oh, fuck off. You know that is a completely different issue. And liberalism is not equatable with communism AT ALL.

I gave you exactly what you asked for. Is that the best response you can come up with?

No you did not, you smarmy neo-con. Socialism is much more in keeping with communism than liberalism. Most of the major tenets of liberalism are the antitheses of communism and totalitarianism. Your response was typical and predictable - irrelevant and, ultimately, completely incorrect.

Have a nice day, you Limbaugh-parroting O'Reilly-worshipper.

[Skylorde]

Socialism is much more in keeping with communism than liberalism.

That is very funny, are you a comedian?

Have a nice day, you Limbaugh-parroting O'Reilly-worshipper.

Thats even funnier given that I can't stand Limbaugh and can barely tolerate O'Reilly. Thanks for showing your true colors though, made for a good laugh!

[conversationpc]

This isn’t worth arguing.
The stockpile of Savage and Hannity books now in police custody, in addition to the guys four page “killing liberals” mini-manifesto makes the case for me.

Just like the nut who mailed Olbermann anthrax was a registered member of FreeRepublic.com

The church shooter’s mental disease may have rendered him more susceptible to the right’s inciteful rhetoric, but he was nevertheless inspired by these tubthumping extremists.

So is AC/DC then as responsible for the Night Stalker murders? After all, Ramirez apparently subsisted on a diet of AC/DC, you know.

[7 Wishes]

Socialism is much more in keeping with communism than liberalism.

That is very funny, are you a comedian?
laugh!

If you actually knew something about anything, you would understand intrinsically how these systems operate and what constitutes them.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Sadder yet, the shooter was allegedly angry for having his food stamps curtailed.
Not sure how the liberals are to blame, but Rush Limbaugh's brand of Rwandan genocidal radio will do that to some people.

A breaking story more warranting this forum's attention would be the wholesale politicization of the justice department.

Ahem,.....just today

WASHINGTON (AP) - Sen. Ted Stevens, the longest-serving Republican senator and a figure in Alaska politics since before statehood, was indicted Tuesday on seven counts of failing to disclose thousands of dollars in services he received from a company that helped renovate his home.

Justice Department officials were holding a news conference later Tuesday to discuss the charges against Stevens.

Nice try. 3 for a quarter?

Two separate issues.

[The_Noble_Cause]

So is AC/DC then as responsible for the Night Stalker murders? After all, Ramirez apparently subsisted on a diet of AC/DC, you know.

Mission Accomplished.
You’ve now effectively clouded the argument with an industrial fishing trawl worth of red herrings that no one remembers the initial point, or can be bothered to go through the mental arithmetic to get back there.
Leaving aside the fact that the music industry is private and holds little public responsibility beyond boosting shareholder profits, a work of music is self contained– bearing little resemblance to radio hosts across the dial ascribing every societal ill to one sect of people on a minddrubbing, willbending daily basis.

What was one of the 14 points of identifying fascism again?
Oh, right -

3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause

[conversationpc]

So is AC/DC then as responsible for the Night Stalker murders? After all, Ramirez apparently subsisted on a diet of AC/DC, you know.

Mission Accomplished.
You’ve now effectively clouded the argument with an industrial fishing trawl worth of red herrings that no one remembers the initial point, or can be bothered to go through the mental arithmetic to get back there.
Leaving aside the fact that the music industry is private and holds little public responsibility beyond boosting shareholder profits, a work of music is self contained– bearing little resemblance to radio hosts across the dial ascribing every societal ill to one sect of people on a minddrubbing, willbending daily basis.

Let's not deflect blame for the "clouding". You were the one who assigned blame to right-wing radio talk shows. If they can have blame laid at their feet, then why is it any different from assigning blame to AC/DC for the Night Stalker murders? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause

Hypocrite heal thyself.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Let's not deflect blame for the "clouding". You were the one who assigned blame to right-wing radio talk shows.

That wasn’t deflection.
The shooter’s note sounded eerily close to the rhetoric of right wing talk show hosts, many of whose books were later found at his house.
At most, the views that led him down this path were introduced to him by overpaid swill-drinking propagandistas like Limbaugh; At a minimum, they were reinforced.
Anyway you split the difference, the golden EIB microphone comes up caked in the blood of lambs.

If they can have blame laid at their feet, then why is it any different from assigning blame to AC/DC for the Night Stalker murders? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Night Prowler was one ACDC song about a hypothetical scenario involving a boyfriend visiting his girlfriend. Doesn’t in any way compare to a multi-billion dollar industry of corporatist pimps and hos (many carried on news stations) accusing liberals daily of everything from treason to terrorism, and in some cases, flirting with dreams of violence.

Also, like I've explained ad infinitum, private industry isn't held to the same standard as public airwaves.

What was one of the 14 points of identifying fascism again?
Oh, right

-3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause

Hypocrite heal thyself.

And my pet scapegoat would be…?
Bush, Limbaugh, Beck, and every other petty two bit nut dangler like you masquerading as a conservative while prison shower-shanking the Constitution?
Every argument with you is like some dragged out sandpaper circle jerk where the first person to whittle his cock down to a nub wins.

[S2M]

FYI - Communism is an ECONOMIC system, NOT a POLITICAL one....thanks for playing though!

[Greg]

I hate politics.

[conversationpc]

That wasn’t deflection.
The shooter’s note sounded eerily close to the rhetoric of right wing talk show hosts, many of whose books were later found at his house.
At most, the views that led him down this path were introduced to him by overpaid swill-drinking propagandistas like Limbaugh; At a minimum, they were reinforced.
Anyway you split the difference, the golden EIB microphone comes up caked in the blood of lambs.

How about assigning blame to the liberal cause for those wacko environmentalists, most of whom ascribe to liberal political ideology? Come on. Liberals are no more to blame for that crap than Hannity or Limbaugh are for this nutcase who shot up a church.

And my pet scapegoat would be…?
Bush, Limbaugh, Beck, and every other petty two bit nut dangler like you masquerading as a conservative while prison shower-shanking the Constitution?
Every argument with you is like some dragged out sandpaper circle jerk where the first person to whittle his cock down to a nub wins.

How much of a supply of Kleenex and Jergens do you have to keep handy on your nightstand to go along homophobic and homoerotic porn collection?

[7 Wishes]

FYI - Communism is an ECONOMIC system, NOT a POLITICAL one....thanks for playing though!

First off, it is implicitly if not by strict definition a political system. Totalitarianism and communism are inseparable. Please, ask someone like Laura, who suffered under the regime of Ceauşescu, if she believes communism is exclusively an economic system. You know damned well what I was trying to say. The devil you say? TNC was right about the uncanny ability of neo-cons to use underhanded deflective chase-the-invisible-bunny tactics to steer the topic clear of the danger zone - i.e. my point was correct, and the de-evolution of traditional American conservatism and its resulting bastard Puritan-Neanderthal son has much more in common with dictatorial administrations found in such abundance in Europe in the mid-20th century than with any "liberal" systems put into place in the past 50 years

[RedWingFan]

FYI - Communism is an ECONOMIC system, NOT a POLITICAL one....thanks for playing though!

First off, it is implicitly if not by strict definition a political system. Totalitarianism and communism are inseparable. Please, ask someone like Laura, who suffered under the regime of Ceauşescu, if she believes communism is exclusively an economic system. You know damned well what I was trying to say. The devil you say? TNC was right about the uncanny ability of neo-cons to use underhanded deflective chase-the-invisible-bunny tactics to steer the topic clear of the danger zone - i.e. my point was correct, and the de-evolution of traditional American conservatism and its resulting bastard Puritan-Neanderthal son has much more in common with dictatorial administrations found in such abundance in Europe in the mid-20th century than with any "liberal" systems put into place in the past 50 years

You keep using the term "neo-cons". What is your definition of the term? Just curious.

[conversationpc]

TNC was right about the uncanny ability of neo-cons to use underhanded deflective chase-the-invisible-bunny tactics to steer the topic clear of the danger zone...

Liberals do it just as often. Let's not pretend your side is any different.

[The_Noble_Cause]

How about assigning blame to the liberal cause for those wacko environmentalists, most of whom ascribe to liberal political ideology? Come on. Liberals are no more to blame for that crap than Hannity or Limbaugh are for this nutcase who shot up a church.

Don’t look now, but your fellow colon mining hobgoblin already beat you to the enviro-jihad punch about a page and a half ago.
Thanks for validating every cliché, half-truth, and stereotype ever uttered about the vast right wing echo chamber.
Can you guys even hear yourself over the deafening wet slap of your cocks against your own smarmy, self-satisfied grins?

The “liberal cause,” an omnibus term, is no more responsible for acts of violence than Conservatism.
McCarthyite demagogues ala Limbaugh, Hannity, and Savage, who turn their shilling dehumanizing and demonizing liberals, are a fascist beast of an entirely different color.

[RedWingFan]

Don’t look now, but your fellow colon mining hobgoblin already beat you to the enviro-jihad punch about a page and a half ago.
Thanks for validating every cliché, half-truth, and stereotype ever uttered about the vast right wing echo chamber.
Can you guys even hear yourself over the deafening wet slap of your cocks against your own smarmy, self-satisfied grins?

How come every time I read your posts I get an image of you pounding your keyboard and dressed like a certain someone from a scene in "Pulp Fiction"?

[conversationpc]

Don’t look now, but your fellow colon mining hobgoblin already beat you to the enviro-jihad punch about a page and a half ago.
Thanks for validating every cliché, half-truth, and stereotype ever uttered about the vast right wing echo chamber.
Can you guys even hear yourself over the deafening wet slap of your cocks against your own smarmy, self-satisfied grins?

That deafening sound you hear would be the thump of your forehead hitting your keyboard as you scramble for that box of kleenex and jergens lotion you just dropped on the floor whilst whacking off to your latest download from nudeboyz.com. Make sure you don't short out the keyboard.

The “liberal cause,” an omnibus term, is no more responsible for acts of violence than Conservatism.
McCarthyite demagogues ala Limbaugh, Hannity and Savage, who turn their shilling dehumanizing and demonizing liberals, are a fascist beast of an entirely different color.

Wow. A moment of clarity from the forum's resident nutjob.

[conversationpc]

How come every time I read your posts I get an image of you pounding your keyboard and dressed like a certain someone from a scene in "Pulp Fiction"?

That pounding is something entirely different judging from the plethora of recently acquired homoerotic comments from our resident lovable liberal.

[conversationpc]

McCarthyite demagogues ala Limbaugh, Hannity, and Savage, who turn their shilling dehumanizing and demonizing liberals, are a fascist beast of an entirely different color.

There doesn't seem to be one commonly accepted definition of fascism that could in either way lead to determining whether it's more of a conservative OR liberal ideology. The facts are that it's an amalgamation of both.

[conversationpc]

Has anyone else ever read Al Gore's "Earth in the Balance"? I hear it's really popular amongst Unabomber types.

Interestingly, one of the books found in the Unabomber's cabin after his arrest was a dog-eared copy of Gore's Earth in the Balance, complete with copious notes in the margins and underlined sections. For some reason, federal investigators decided to leave this off of the evidence list released to the media. Could it be that Gore recognizes the similarities and is embarrassed by the fact that he is the leading defender of the same eco-hysteria as the Unabomber? The answer is obvious.

http://www-tech.mit.edu/V116/N27/gore.27c.html

Nah...Couldn't be.

[RedWingFan]

Has anyone else ever read Al Gore's "Earth in the Balance"? I hear it's really popular amongst Unabomber types.

Interestingly, one of the books found in the Unabomber's cabin after his arrest was a dog-eared copy of Gore's Earth in the Balance, complete with copious notes in the margins and underlined sections. For some reason, federal investigators decided to leave this off of the evidence list released to the media. Could it be that Gore recognizes the similarities and is embarrassed by the fact that he is the leading defender of the same eco-hysteria as the Unabomber? The answer is obvious.

http://www-tech.mit.edu/V116/N27/gore.27c.html

Nah...Couldn't be.

Damn it, how could I have forgotten about this? The Unabomber!!! There you go 7 Wishes. I suppose blowing people up isn't as bad as shooting them though.

[7 Wishes]

Not even comparable. Kaczynski was a reclusive psychopath, who also happened to be very conservative. The main targets of his hatred were liberals and scientists...all members of the "industrial-technological system". So, no, he does not qualify.

I respect you, and you have given me valuable insight on some issues which, as an open-minded individual, have impacted my beliefs. But so far, you guys are batting .000 on this issue.