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Postby RedWingFan » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:30 am

7 Wishes wrote:Not even comparable. Kaczynski was a reclusive psychopath, who also happened to be very conservative.

Is that why he had "Earth In The Balance" in his shack with him? Because he's a conservative? That's what I thought.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:35 am

He HATED Gore and everything he stood for. He picked out any liberally-slanted material in particular because it outraged him so much. It would be like TNC reading O'Reilly's non-pornographic book, and pointing out all his errors in logic.
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Postby RedWingFan » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:45 am

7 Wishes wrote:He HATED Gore and everything he stood for. He picked out any liberally-slanted material in particular because it outraged him so much. It would be like TNC reading O'Reilly's non-pornographic book, and pointing out all his errors in logic.

So you're saying Teddy underlined everything he disagreed with? Are you making this assumption to fit your view or do you honestly believe it? Would you find it a lame defense if I claimed this nut who shot up the church allegedly had Limbaugh books because he disagreed with them? I think you would.
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:23 pm

7 Wishes wrote:Not even comparable. Kaczynski was a reclusive psychopath, who also happened to be very conservative. The main targets of his hatred were liberals and scientists...all members of the "industrial-technological system". So, no, he does not qualify.

I respect you, and you have given me valuable insight on some issues which, as an open-minded individual, have impacted my beliefs. But so far, you guys are batting .000 on this issue.


It's certainly comparable. Gore is no more responsible for Kaczynski's psychopathic rantings and killings than O'Reilly, Hannity, or Savage are for this other moron.

BTW, some of Kaczynski's vitriol was directed against corporations, a favorite whipping boy of the left. He hated the rich, again, another whipping boy of the left.

Also, try reading some of Kaczynski's "material". Much of it is very similar to writings and statements from Gore. Again, I in no way think Gore has anything to do with this guy's actions but it serves to show how ridiculous it is to place any blame at all on politicians, talk show hosts, etc., for murders that are the fault of one person only, the one who perpetrated them. It's ridiculous for liberals to blame conservatives like they have in this case and ridiculous for conservatives to blame liberals in the case of the Unabomber.
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:25 pm

7 Wishes wrote:He HATED Gore and everything he stood for. He picked out any liberally-slanted material in particular because it outraged him so much. It would be like TNC reading O'Reilly's non-pornographic book, and pointing out all his errors in logic.


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Postby 7 Wishes » Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:23 pm

All this is true, but keep in mind I disagree with the hypothesis originally put forth by TNC in the first place. The guy was just a maniacal, lunatic fringe nutjob, and he would have done the same thing if he worshiped Dukakis or Rove.
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:19 pm

7 Wishes wrote:All this is true, but keep in mind I disagree with the hypothesis originally put forth by TNC in the first place. The guy was just a maniacal, lunatic fringe nutjob, and he would have done the same thing if he worshiped Dukakis or Rove.


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Postby Skylorde » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:17 am

conversationpc wrote:
7 Wishes wrote:All this is true, but keep in mind I disagree with the hypothesis originally put forth by TNC in the first place. The guy was just a maniacal, lunatic fringe nutjob, and he would have done the same thing if he worshiped Dukakis or Rove.

Point taken.


Only took us three pages to come to the same conclusion ;)
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:27 am

conversationpc wrote:It's certainly comparable. Gore is no more responsible for Kaczynski's psychopathic rantings and killings than O'Reilly, Hannity, or Savage are for this other moron.


Earth in the Balance, which is as much of a breezy pageturner as an Applied Physics textbook, is in no ways comparable to the aforementioned radio hosts, who unidimensionally dehumanize a sect of human beings daily. In many cases singling out those who became this man’s two legged skeet targets (“Blacks, Gays, Anyone Different”).
Then again, equating the Unabomber, (whose targets included alleged liberal hotbeds like Yale and Berkely), with the church shooter is to be expected from a party only to proud to boast of their intellectual incuriosity and little use for pesky trifles like gray shades and nuance. Hence, the kudzu-like spread of Saddam = Hitler analogies, and ten mile long Manchurian Muslim anti-Obama emails.

I didn’t say the church shooter was a Conservative.
I didn’t deny he wasn’t certifiably shithouse rat crazy.
I am saying that people like Limbaugh, that blame liberals for EVERYTHING wrong in this country (up to and including the Virginia Tech Massacre), play their part in planting the kernels of mistrust and paranoia that ultimately may have contributed to this event.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:34 am

That's what debate threads are for...just like Congress. To go through hundreds of motions, oversight committees, and tons of paperwork in order to arrive at the same commonality.
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:52 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Earth in the Balance, which is as much of a breezy pageturner as an Applied Physics textbook, is in no ways comparable to the aforementioned radio hosts, who unidimensionally dehumanize a sect of human beings daily.


Liberals do the same thing...The only difference being that no one listens to their talk shows.

I didn’t say the church shooter was a Conservative.


You might not have said it but you certainly were playing up that angle.
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Postby separate_wayz » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:55 am

Can't we all just get along, like these guys!?!?!


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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:03 am

conversationpc wrote:You might not have said it but you certainly were playing up that angle.


Only to the imperceptive few that take first offense at any item off the Conservative brand product line being inspected – no matter how haphazardly the label is slapped on or the shattered goods inside are badly in need of recall.
My object of contempt throughout this thread has remained consistently on the AM radio squadristi death squads whose books were found in the self-appointed avenging angel's home.
I don’t consider them Conservative. I don’t even recognize most of them as American.
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:14 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:I don’t consider them Conservative. I don’t even recognize most of them as American.


Some on the right accuse some lefties of being anti-American for not supporting the war. It's wrong for them to do it and it's also wrong for you to accuse these people of being anti-American. It's shameful.
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