8 Month Old Gift from Steve

[Luvsaugeri]

Awsome surprise Playitoud!!

[Enigma869]

Dude, let me spell it out for you. Just because he couldn't sing the catalog like Perry, doesn't make him an average singer!

Let me spell it out for you, genius...I never claimed Augeri was an average singer because he couldn't sing in the range Perry sang in. I said he's an average singer, because in my opinion, he simply is!

Once again your opinion, which many would disagree with.

That's fine. It's a message board. It would be a boring place if everyone spewed the same bullshit. That's why I left Jackass Talk, because I found the red leather, circle jerks to be fucking nauseating!

Unfortunately, most won't for fear of being called a "fuckwad".

Just so I'm clear, I didn't call you a fuckwad for disagreeing with me. That's your right. I called you a fuckwad for coming across as a condescending, pompous ass, telling me that I know absolutely nothing, simply because my opinion wasn't consistent with yours!

Just because Red 13 doesn't sound like classic Journey doesn't mean that it sucks.

I didn't say it sucked because it didn't sound like "classic Journey" (there you go just making shit up again). I said it sucked, because in my opinion, it was unlistenable and dreadful! If you feel otherwise, more power to you!

And calling Generations a "fucking abortion" every time you get a chance isn't going to make people stop liking it.

Listen 78...my mission in life isn't to convert ANYONE to my way of thinking. I honestly don't give a shit! I called "Generations" an abortion, because with the exception of one or two tracks, it was AWFUL! I'm fully cognizant of the fact that there are Augeri fans who would sing the guy's praises if he released a rap album. Once again, more power to them. It doesn't change the fact that most Journey fans who live outside of websites like MR, agree more with my position than the position that "Generations" was some kind of masterpiece. Anything with Schon, Valory, and Cain singing vocals shouldn't be used as anything other than a coaster to put a cold drink on (which is what I use my copy for)!

If you don't like it fine, but why always take the opportunity to say something negative?

Because it was germane to the conversation. It's really not anymore complicated than that!

And I said what I felt like saying. Was`I not supposed to do that?

Of course you were! I'll defend ANYONE'S right to have an opinion, even if they tell me I know absolutely nothing, because my opinion isn't in line with theirs. Having said that, if someone calls me out, I will come after them EVERY time! I promise you this...If you look at EVERY post I've ever made on ANY message board, you will NEVER, EVER, EVER find one single instance of me going after another poster, unless they went after me first! I will NEVER make something personal, unless someone else chooses to make it personal, first!

John from Boston

[CatEyes]

could you guys take your egos and start your own frigging thread?

Congrats, playitloud.

Sounds like you have a great neighbor.

Cat

[Playitloudforme]

Thanks Cat. and yeah... John, Since, please don't pull my thread into a debate.

[DSHinMICH]

Wow! Lucky you!

[Deb]

Congrats Kate, very cool!

[whirlwind]

Things like this seem to happen to the loons, like that surprise visit at the star.

Loon's rule!

[YoungJRNY]

Dude, let me spell it out for you. Just because he couldn't sing the catalog like Perry, doesn't make him an average singer!

Let me spell it out for you, genius...I never claimed Augeri was an average singer because he couldn't sing in the range Perry sang in. I said he's an average singer, because in my opinion, he simply is!

Once again your opinion, which many would disagree with.

That's fine. It's a message board. It would be a boring place if everyone spewed the same bullshit. That's why I left Jackass Talk, because I found the red leather, circle jerks to be fucking nauseating!

Unfortunately, most won't for fear of being called a "fuckwad".

Just so I'm clear, I didn't call you a fuckwad for disagreeing with me. That's your right. I called you a fuckwad for coming across as a condescending, pompous ass, telling me that I know absolutely nothing, simply because my opinion wasn't consistent with yours!

Just because Red 13 doesn't sound like classic Journey doesn't mean that it sucks.

I didn't say it sucked because it didn't sound like "classic Journey" (there you go just making shit up again). I said it sucked, because in my opinion, it was unlistenable and dreadful! If you feel otherwise, more power to you!

And calling Generations a "fucking abortion" every time you get a chance isn't going to make people stop liking it.

Listen 78...my mission in life isn't to convert ANYONE to my way of thinking. I honestly don't give a shit! I called "Generations" an abortion, because with the exception of one or two tracks, it was AWFUL! I'm fully cognizant of the fact that there are Augeri fans who would sing the guy's praises if he released a rap album. Once again, more power to them. It doesn't change the fact that most Journey fans who live outside of websites like MR, agree more with my position than the position that "Generations" was some kind of masterpiece. Anything with Schon, Valory, and Cain singing vocals shouldn't be used as anything other than a coaster to put a cold drink on (which is what I use my copy for)!

If you don't like it fine, but why always take the opportunity to say something negative?

Because it was germane to the conversation. It's really not anymore complicated than that!

And I said what I felt like saying. Was`I not supposed to do that?

Of course you were! I'll defend ANYONE'S right to have an opinion, even if they tell me I know absolutely nothing, because my opinion isn't in line with theirs. Having said that, if someone calls me out, I will come after them EVERY time! I promise you this...If you look at EVERY post I've ever made on ANY message board, you will NEVER, EVER, EVER find one single instance of me going after another poster, unless they went after me first! I will NEVER make something personal, unless someone else chooses to make it personal, first!

John from Boston

Wow, I thought my mom was a yapper. Enigma just has the itch to fight.. '78 I think we've all learned that from experience one way or another with JFB. He took a simple "Augeri for president" bumper sticker comment...to ranting about the guy. It was his perfect opportunity. There are a lot of people who can get someones attention and twist and turn on peoples emotions with a snap of a finger.. John takes the cake with this, and is damned good at it. Instigator nonetheless. Let 'em go '78..its no use. I applaud you JFB with your antics. LOL

[Playitloudforme]

Same request goes to you YoungJrny... please don't pull my thread into any other direction other than its original intended. Thanks.

[YoungJRNY]

Apologize*

[Playitloudforme]

thanks man

[Onestepper]

That is so super i am thrilled for you. See he is a sweet wonderful man that cares about his fans.

I would say the millions of fans that have waited year after year for him to produce or DO something/anything, would disagree with you. Most of them don't get bday cards signed though.

[Tito]

Thats cool{Ill only say it once} Id get it verified.I drove around with a Steve Augeri for President bumber sticker on, and never got a card. Good for you

[Playitloudforme]

That is so super i am thrilled for you. See he is a sweet wonderful man that cares about his fans.

I would say the millions of fans that have waited year after year for him to produce or DO something/anything, would disagree with you. Most of them don't get bday cards signed though.

And even without the card, I would disagree with you, onestepper. He does care.

His life, however, is not dictated by what I want. I'm one of those that has been waiting year after year. I'd love that CD to come out, but ya know... my life goes on nonetheless. and I'm ok with it. Faithful to the end.

His time schedule, not mine.

[Deb]

That is so super i am thrilled for you. See he is a sweet wonderful man that cares about his fans.

I would say the millions of fans that have waited year after year for him to produce or DO something/anything, would disagree with you. Most of them don't get bday cards signed though.

And even without the card, I would disagree with you, onestepper. He does care.

His life, however, is not dictated by what I want. I'm one of those that has been waiting year after year. I'd love that CD to come out, but ya know... my life goes on nonetheless. and I'm ok with it. Faithful to the end.

His time schedule, not mine.

Ditto! Never convince me he doesn't care about his fans.

[Onestepper]

That is so super i am thrilled for you. See he is a sweet wonderful man that cares about his fans.

I would say the millions of fans that have waited year after year for him to produce or DO something/anything, would disagree with you. Most of them don't get bday cards signed though.

And even without the card, I would disagree with you, onestepper. He does care.

His life, however, is not dictated by what I want. I'm one of those that has been waiting year after year. I'd love that CD to come out, but ya know... my life goes on nonetheless. and I'm ok with it. Faithful to the end.

His time schedule, not mine.

I was joking Playit. I know very well he is a good person. I don't judge a man's character by how long it takes him to release an stupid CD. Do I think he could communicate with his fan base better? Yes. But that doesn't make him a horrible person. There have been numerous examples of his generosity, as well as his stubbornness. That just makes him like the rest of us in many ways.

[Playitloudforme]

That is so super i am thrilled for you. See he is a sweet wonderful man that cares about his fans.

I would say the millions of fans that have waited year after year for him to produce or DO something/anything, would disagree with you. Most of them don't get bday cards signed though.

And even without the card, I would disagree with you, onestepper. He does care.

His life, however, is not dictated by what I want. I'm one of those that has been waiting year after year. I'd love that CD to come out, but ya know... my life goes on nonetheless. and I'm ok with it. Faithful to the end.

His time schedule, not mine.

I was joking Playit. I know very well he is a good person. I don't judge a man's character by how long it takes him to release an stupid CD. Do I think he could communicate with his fan base better? Yes. But that doesn't make him a horrible person. There have been numerous examples of his generosity, as well as his stubbornness. That just makes him like the rest of us in many ways.

Well, to be fair, the comment didn't come off as joking at all.

And he has communicated. Check out Fan Asylum's Q&As. He didn't have to do any of those. He answered my questions every time I submitted them. Does he need to be on live chat every week to be communicating? No. I think he's very well aware that his fans would like a CD. I also think he wants it to be the absolute best it can be before it is released.

If you have your expectations for his level of communication preset, then any disappointment in Steve's meeting those expectations are all yours to have, and not on him. He couldn't possibly meet every single persons full expectations of what he should do/act/say 24/7.

[Onestepper]

That is so super i am thrilled for you. See he is a sweet wonderful man that cares about his fans.

I would say the millions of fans that have waited year after year for him to produce or DO something/anything, would disagree with you. Most of them don't get bday cards signed though.

And even without the card, I would disagree with you, onestepper. He does care.

His life, however, is not dictated by what I want. I'm one of those that has been waiting year after year. I'd love that CD to come out, but ya know... my life goes on nonetheless. and I'm ok with it. Faithful to the end.

His time schedule, not mine.

I was joking Playit. I know very well he is a good person. I don't judge a man's character by how long it takes him to release an stupid CD. Do I think he could communicate with his fan base better? Yes. But that doesn't make him a horrible person. There have been numerous examples of his generosity, as well as his stubbornness. That just makes him like the rest of us in many ways.

Well, to be fair, the comment didn't come off as joking at all.

And he has communicated. Check out Fan Asylum's Q&As. He didn't have to do any of those. He answered my questions every time I submitted them. Does he need to be on live chat every week to be communicating? No. I think he's very well aware that his fans would like a CD. I also think he wants it to be the absolute best it can be before it is released.

If you have your expectations for his level of communication preset, then any disappointment in Steve's meeting those expectations are all yours to have, and not on him. He couldn't possibly meet every single persons full expectations of what he should do/act/say 24/7.

Thank you for putting me in my place. Geez..chill out some. You sure as hell speak for him a lot.

[Playitloudforme]

Thank you for putting me in my place. Geez..chill out some. You sure as hell speak for him a lot.

I don't need to chill out. I'm fine.

But I will speak up when I see anyone try to belittle him (and claiming he's not caring about his fans IS belittling him). Card carrying loon and proud of it.

[Onestepper]

Thank you for putting me in my place. Geez..chill out some. You sure as hell speak for him a lot.

I don't need to chill out. I'm fine.

But I will speak up when I see anyone try to belittle him (and claiming he's not caring about his fans IS belittling him). Card carrying loon and proud of it.

If you don't want to understand the word JOKE (whether you thought that's what it was or not) I can not help you. And if you think I was belittling him, when I CLEARLY said he was a good gracious person...then you have more issues than you will ever admit. I don't think it has anything with you being a loon. I think it's that you want to speak for other people (me included evidently), and don't be surprised when someone calls you on it.

[Saint John]

That card was the equivalent of winning the lottery. The guy thinks/cares about his fans maybe 2 days out of the year and himself and how to derail Journey the other 363. Considering he has millions of fans and on 1 of the 2 days that he does think about them you were the recipient makes you a lottery winner. Congrats!!! This guy hasn't been honest to himself, his fans or his former bandmates for the better part of 20 years. Maybe they deserve it, but the fans sure don't. Perry's good to his fans...lol. Anyone that believes that shit should be fuckin' committed.

[Onestepper]

That card was the equivalent of winning the lottery. The guy thinks/cares about his fans maybe 2 days out of the year and himself and how to derail Journey the other 363. Considering he has millions of fans and on 1 of the 2 days that he does think about them you were the recipient makes you a lottery winner. Congrats!!! This guy hasn't been honest to himself, his fans or his former bandmates for the better part of 20 years. Maybe they deserve it, but the fans sure don't. Perry's good to his fans...lol. Anyone that believes that shit should be fuckin' committed.

Hey Playit..in cause you can't figure it out...this is a belittling statement.

[Michigan Girl]

That card was the equivalent of winning the lottery. The guy thinks/cares about his fans maybe 2 days out of the year and himself and how to derail Journey the other 363. Considering he has millions of fans and on 1 of the 2 days that he does think about them you were the recipient makes you a lottery winner. Congrats!!! This guy hasn't been honest to himself, his fans or his former bandmates for the better part of 20 years. Maybe they deserve it, but the fans sure don't. Perry's good to his fans...lol. Anyone that believes that shit should be fuckin' committed.

Hey Playit..in cause you can't figure it out...this is a belittling statement.

INDEED!!!

[Deb]

That card was the equivalent of winning the lottery. The guy thinks/cares about his fans maybe 2 days out of the year and himself and how to derail Journey the other 363. Considering he has millions of fans and on 1 of the 2 days that he does think about them you were the recipient makes you a lottery winner. Congrats!!! This guy hasn't been honest to himself, his fans or his former bandmates for the better part of 20 years. Maybe they deserve it, but the fans sure don't. Perry's good to his fans...lol. Anyone that believes that shit should be fuckin' committed.

Commit me then. Cuz you'll never convince me he isn't good to his fans. Perry doesn't communicate enough, Soto communicates too much.......geez, these guys just can't win with you, can they?

[Playitloudforme]

This thread was meant to share a nice thing.


And you guys had to piss in it.


Nice going. Proud of yourselves? Bet your mom is proud of you treating people like this.

[Playitloudforme]

That card was the equivalent of winning the lottery. The guy thinks/cares about his fans maybe 2 days out of the year and himself and how to derail Journey the other 363. Considering he has millions of fans and on 1 of the 2 days that he does think about them you were the recipient makes you a lottery winner. Congrats!!! This guy hasn't been honest to himself, his fans or his former bandmates for the better part of 20 years. Maybe they deserve it, but the fans sure don't. Perry's good to his fans...lol. Anyone that believes that shit should be fuckin' committed.

I'll be sure to share this comment you've made with Laura.

She's there tomorrow, you know....

[Playitloudforme]

Thank you for putting me in my place. Geez..chill out some. You sure as hell speak for him a lot.

I don't need to chill out. I'm fine.

But I will speak up when I see anyone try to belittle him (and claiming he's not caring about his fans IS belittling him). Card carrying loon and proud of it.

If you don't want to understand the word JOKE (whether you thought that's what it was or not) I can not help you. And if you think I was belittling him, when I CLEARLY said he was a good gracious person...then you have more issues than you will ever admit. I don't think it has anything with you being a loon. I think it's that you want to speak for other people (me included evidently), and don't be surprised when someone calls you on it.

And you clearly don't understand Passive Agressive behavior when you commit it. Dissing someone, then calling it a joke = passive agressive.

I don't speak for anyone. I made a statement about expectations. If it hits close to home, you might want to look at that. Your choice.

[Onestepper]

Thank you for putting me in my place. Geez..chill out some. You sure as hell speak for him a lot.

I don't need to chill out. I'm fine.

But I will speak up when I see anyone try to belittle him (and claiming he's not caring about his fans IS belittling him). Card carrying loon and proud of it.

If you don't want to understand the word JOKE (whether you thought that's what it was or not) I can not help you. And if you think I was belittling him, when I CLEARLY said he was a good gracious person...then you have more issues than you will ever admit. I don't think it has anything with you being a loon. I think it's that you want to speak for other people (me included evidently), and don't be surprised when someone calls you on it.

And you clearly don't understand Passive Agressive behavior when you commit it. Dissing someone, then calling it a joke = passive agressive.

I don't speak for anyone. I made a statement about expectations. If it hits close to home, you might want to look at that. Your choice.

You seem to be the only one with an issue over it. So who's pissin on the thread now? Truth hurts, I know.

Oh, Passive Aggressive is one thing. Co-Dependant is another.

[Marabelle]

Geez.

[Playitloudforme]

Thank you for putting me in my place. Geez..chill out some. You sure as hell speak for him a lot.

I don't need to chill out. I'm fine.

But I will speak up when I see anyone try to belittle him (and claiming he's not caring about his fans IS belittling him). Card carrying loon and proud of it.

If you don't want to understand the word JOKE (whether you thought that's what it was or not) I can not help you. And if you think I was belittling him, when I CLEARLY said he was a good gracious person...then you have more issues than you will ever admit. I don't think it has anything with you being a loon. I think it's that you want to speak for other people (me included evidently), and don't be surprised when someone calls you on it.

And you clearly don't understand Passive Agressive behavior when you commit it. Dissing someone, then calling it a joke = passive agressive.

I don't speak for anyone. I made a statement about expectations. If it hits close to home, you might want to look at that. Your choice.

You seem to be the only one with an issue over it. So who's pissin on the thread now? Truth hurts, I know.

Oh, Passive Aggressive is one thing. Co-Dependant is another.

Co-dependant? Oh for fucks sake.... get a life. Please. enough. Drew... please close this sad ass thread as the pissers have stunk up the place. AGAIN.