Knellsky Chat: 7Aug08 Arnel Pineda comments on Steve Augeri

[wednesday's child]

Some cat going by RyanCoyle made a somewhat uncomfortable comment to Arnel,
saying Augeri couldn't do the Classics easily, wrt a legacy voice versus one's own voice
(Yes, I'm paraphrasing. Sue me.)...{SNIP}

EDIT: I re-read what I earlier posted, and yeah... I come off pretty bitchy, so let me apologize.
I guess I'm just sensitive to anything that approaches criticism against Augeri, and I got edgy ...without basis.
Ryan is a very nice guy, and hey: Arnel clearly likes him and trusts him. That says a lot.

Here's the transcript (condensed & translated) of the chat earlier today:
Had to move stuff around so that questions would correspond to Arnel's answers.
As usual, any objections ... slam me here, not somewhere I can't respond.



Knellsky Chat : 7 Aug 2008

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Knellsky: hello everyone

(chorus of hello's)
so hows everybody?

Ngarag: How are you?
Espiritu14: how are you bro?
A LITTLE SICK, AND (I'VE A) HEADACHE TOO

Lamichelona: take care of yourself
I (DO)
BUT THEN AGAIN YOU CAN ONLY TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF TO A CERTAIN EXTENT

(some fidiot dumbass): Try a silicone mouthpiece --helps with teeth-gnashing (=headache)
REALLY
Esigh: yes, i used it for my tmj

Booyah!: AP just so you know some one came here using the same id you have ••
REALLY?
SAME ID HUH? SO HE'S FAKE
OR HE'S TRYING TO FOOL SOMEONE HERE

HappyHearts: Yeah, fake Knellsky several times
Yuri59: SO ARE YOU THE REAL ONE ARNEL???
SO AM I THE REAL ONE, YURI? WHAT DO YOU THINK? HEHEHEHEE

Ryancoyle: Hi Arnel
HEY RYAN. HOW YOU DOIN?

Ryancoyle: how is everything?
STRESSFUL. THIS IS A FUN, BUT NOT AN EASY JOB
I BLAME NEAL FOR THIS. BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

Jonimitch: tsup tsup Nel!!
(Note: Arnel mis-reads this as a *kiss kiss Neal*)
OH NO, I WONT KISS NEAL.
HE MIGHT THINK I'M GAY

Stargzr210: kiss deen 4 me
I TOLD YOU GUYS, I'M NOT GONNA KISS THE BIG BOYS

Ryancoyle: ... Singers have it rough. Performing everynight is really tough
and i give You MAJOR kudos for doing so well so quickly1
THANKS RYAN FOR THE KUDOS


I WANT TO CUT MY HAIR. ITS GETTING HARDER AND HARDER TO MANAGE IT.
(JUST WITH MY HAIR ALONE), IT TAKES ALMOST AN HOUR TO MANAGE IT.
I FEEL LIKE A GIRL
(a chorus of No!!! Some fidiot dumbass says, "go ahead and cut it then")

Ryancoyle: ...I know how hot it gets on stage, my band and I
argue over image all teh time too, comfort versus looks
I AGREE WITH YOU RYAN ... ITS GETTING REALLY REALLY HARD

Anon2238: mr arnel i am asking if u remeber tita susan soriano?????????????/
OF COURSE ANON. SHE IS MY GOOD FRIEND? WHY, DO YOU KNOW HER?

Ryancoyle: Arnel, can you tell Jack to give me your email address?
EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS MY EMAIL ADDRESS RYAN. HAHAHAAHAHAHA

Espiritu14: arnel do you remember ***???
OH YEAH ** ***, WHAT ABOUT HIM?
YOU KNOW, ** **** **** ** *****.
WELL, ** ***** ** *** *** * ***** **** ***** *****

Espiritu14: *** **** *** *****??
***. *** ****. * ***** ** ** ***
* **** ** **** **** ** ********

Ryancoyle: Arnel, aside from "hair problems" whats teh stress about?
KEEPING THE LEGACY SOUNDING ALIVE EVERY NIGHT RYAN
HEHEHEHE

Ryancoyle: Arnel, what I really liek about you is you honor teh classic while being yourself.
Augeri had a hard time doing that you bring your persona to teh music that really stands out
WELL, I RESPECT THE COURAGE AUGERI HAS (SHOWN) FOR JOURNEY.
IM SURE HE HAD A TOUGH TIME DOING THEM, SO HE WILL FIND HIS RIGHTFUL PLACE.
GOD IS FAIR

Ryancoyle: Yes, I stated in one of my later reviews that if not for Augeri,
Journey woul probably have faded and you would not be here now

Jrnymori: HAVE YOU MET STEVE AUGERI, ARNEL?
NOT YET
Jrnyval: He's an amazing man
RipRokken: I saw Steve just 2 weeks ago
Ryancoyle: he had big obstacles to overcome and he did so well and I respect all that he had to put up with

Stingfan: ARNEL DID YOU GET MY OTHER LETTERS? WHAT DO THINK OF IT?
WOW, IM GETTING LOADS OF LETTERS. I AM NOT EVEN SURE (FROM) WHOM EVERYONE'S LETTERS (ARE)
HAHAHAHA. IM REALLY SORRY. BUT ONE THING IS FOR SURE. IM SO GRATEFUL FOR (YOUR) SENDING ME
ALL OF THOSE LETTERS OF YOURS. THEYRE ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WAS ABLE TO GET THROUGH
MY TOUGHEST TIMES

RipRokken: That reminds of of a great picture I did -- Nel might get a kick out of it!

RipRokken: HAHA!

HOW YOU DOIN RIP

Jrnymori: DO YOU SPEAK WITH YOUR FAMILY OFTEN????
YEAH EVERYDAY. I CALL THEM LIKE 3 TIMES A DAY OR MORE, I GUESS

RipRokken: Hey, great, Arnel -- looking forward to Cleveland!
RipRokken: We are going to rock out with you big time during the show. great seats, too
(IN) CLEVELAND WE'LL BE RIP. HEHEHHE

Empereur1: ARNEL, HOW MANY GIRLS HAVE PROPOSED MARRIAGE TO YOU, SO FAR? HEHE
HEHE. NO ONE YET MY FRIEND. HEHEHH

Anon2238: ARNELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL DO U HAPPEN TO KNOW ANY CONTACT NUMBER OF TITA SUSAN?????//
I DONT HAVE IT WITH ME. IM SO SORRY. WHO ARE YOU ANON?

Anon2238: I AM HER FRIEND. WE LOST TOUCH WITH HER WHEN WE MOVED HERE TO THE USA
MY MUM IS HER BEST FRIEND SINCE HIGH SCHOOL. LAST TIME MY MUM WENT HOME TITA SUSAN
TOOK MY MOMMY TO YOUR GIG IN MAKATI. SO PLSSSSSSSSSSSSS, I JUST NEED AN EMAIL SO
MY MOM CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH HER. I SAW HER PIC WITH CHERI.
NEXT TIME ANON. DONT HAVE TIME TO DIG OUT MY ADRESS BOOK

...

IM SO SORRY. I AM SIGNING OUT IN A FEW MINUTES


ITS TRUE, AFTER ALL... READING YOUR POSTS IS DIZZYING!
HEHEHEHHEE, THE MORE I GET A HEADACHE...
HEHEHHEE

(getting back to the relentless anon2238, lol)
TRY THIS NUMBER (**********). THATS TITA SUSAN'S NUMBER

HEY BUDDY ARTHUR...
IF YOU HAPPEN TO TALK TO **** **** *** ****
* **** ** ************ **** *** **** ** **


(HEY) EVERYONE, GOT TO GO
BYE BYE
IM BEING CALLED FOR WORK
I LOVE YOU ALL
THANK YOU
KEEP YOURSELVES HEALTHY

BYE MR !
BYE JF !
MUAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !

(end)
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Anyway, imagine all of that taking place within (and in spite of) a veritable shitstorm
of cross-posting by happy Journey fans... Over 170 folks online at one point, IIRC
posting like their lives depended on it. LOL.

-wech

[Rhiannon]

He has headaches b/c that shoutbox goes 200 mph... my laptop sounded like a beat up Dodge Shadow from all the popping of comments.

[Michigan Girl]

Some cat going by RyanCoyle made a somewhat uncomfortable comment to Arnel,
saying Augeri couldn't do the Classics easily, wrt a legacy voice versus one's own voice
(Yes, I'm paraphrasing. Sue me.)
-wech

I'm sure this will help things around here!!

Ryan Coyle seems like a very nice and likeable guy!!!
Talented too!!!

[wednesday's child]

It was pretty insane, Rhi.
I only got in my "silicone mouthpiece" comment, to (at best) a monosyllabic reply from him, LOL.
decided to shut up and just lurk, so it would help with the scrolling overspeed.

The way Arnel's response to Ryan was structured,
it sounds like Arnel knows Augeri got a bum deal.

-wech

[DrFU]

Having watched 3 of these chats in the last week, it sounds like the guy is struggling some mentally, caught up in the Journey machine. He probably goes to the chat on his site for fan support. I really wish we could just give him that and not throw out bait like this (and Friga, and porno titles, and a bunch of other schutt).

[Michigan Girl]

Having watched 3 of these chats in the last week, it sounds like the guy is struggling some mentally, caught up in the Journey machine. He probably goes to the chat on his site for fan support. I really wish we could just give him that and not throw out bait like this (and Friga, and porno titles, and a bunch of other schutt).

Doc....I so always agree with you~Smart Lady!!!!

[wednesday's child]

Some cat going by RyanCoyle made a somewhat uncomfortable comment to Arnel,
saying Augeri couldn't do the Classics easily, wrt a legacy voice versus one's own voice
(Yes, I'm paraphrasing. Sue me.)
-wech

I'm sure this will help things around here!!

Ryan Coyle seems like a very nice and likeable guy!!!
Talented too!!!

LOL

Hey, I'm not saying RyanCoyle INTENDED it as a put-down vs. Augeri. He was probably just trying to praise AP.
Just a few days ago, he called Arnel one of the greatest vocalists of all time, or something lke that, and Arnel replied
that no, Steve Perry was still the man.

I'm no stranger to misspeaking, myself.
No reason to doubt that RC is, as you say, a "very nice and likeable guy"

Cheers

-wech

[DrFU]

Having watched 3 of these chats in the last week, it sounds like the guy is struggling some mentally, caught up in the Journey machine. He probably goes to the chat on his site for fan support. I really wish we could just give him that and not throw out bait like this (and Friga, and porno titles, and a bunch of other schutt).

Doc....I so always agree with you~Smart Lady!!!!

Back atcha, MG...sorry we missed meeting in Dallas. Next time!

[wednesday's child]

Having watched 3 of these chats in the last week, it sounds like the guy is struggling some mentally, caught up in the Journey machine. He probably goes to the chat on his site for fan support. I really wish we could just give him that and not throw out bait like this (and Friga, and porno titles, and a bunch of other schutt).

Bullseye, Doc.

[whirlwind]

I get the feeling that he shouldn't be doing these chats. It makes him kinda vulnerable, imo. I mean that he is kinda like a babe in the woods with every thing he posts, overly scrutinized.

[finalfight]

Having watched 3 of these chats in the last week, it sounds like the guy is struggling some mentally, caught up in the Journey machine. He probably goes to the chat on his site for fan support. I really wish we could just give him that and not throw out bait like this (and Friga, and porno titles, and a bunch of other schutt).

Bullseye, Doc.

And now Schon and co are able to read unsubstantiated comments and rumours to this effect on this very board and are likely banging their collective heads against hotel room walls across the USA. I'm not saying that its a bad thing just that I am not so sure there should have to be a hidden agenda. It seems more reasonable to believe that fan interaction has always been part of his nature and is for the time being at least supported by his employers, as it was for a time with JSS.

I can't see that Arnel is looking to make an 'Escape' either emotionally or physically but he wouldn't be the first Journey frontman to 'Fly 2 Freedom'! Ouch, bad joke!

[finalfight]

I get the feeling that he shouldn't be doing these chats. It makes him kinda vulnerable, imo. I mean that he is kinda like a babe in the woods with every thing he posts, overly scrutinized.

And there's my bullseye!

[footprints]

Maybe going to his official site is a way to relieve some loneliness and homesickness. Being away from the family far too long, made him reach out more
often to his fans. Also it may be a way to alleviate some of the pressure on being on the road and performing, IMO.

[finalfight]

Maybe going to his official site is a way to relieve some loneliness and homesickness. Being away from the family far too long, made him reach out more
often to his fans. Also it may be a way to alleviate some of the pressure on being on the road and performing, IMO.

As well as have a dialogue in his own language - whilst saving his voice for the road.

[wednesday's child]

wanting to keep in touch with fans is NOT a weakness, LOL.

Arnel's probably a lot tougher and more careful than we might think.
He's said absolutley nothing citable as damaging to Journey, nor do I think he ever would.

Even if he were to openly say that Augeri got dealt a bad hand,
That is NOT the same as saying he was screwed over by persons X, Y or Z.
There was supposedly a medical issue, no? There's your bum deal.

Arnel's singing his heart out, delivering the goods lika a champ, AND is an all-around nice guy.
If staying in touch with fans online is his thing, everone should respect it.
Not all lead vocalists wanna be a recluse.

-wech

[Michigan Girl]

wanting to keep in touch with fans is NOT a weakness, LOL.

Arnel's probably a lot tougher and more careful than we might think.
He's said absolutley nothing citable as damaging to Journey, nor do I think he ever would.Even if he were to openly say that Augeri got dealt a bad hand,
That is NOT the same as saying he was screwed over by persons X, Y or Z.
There was supposedly a medical issue, no? There's your bum deal.

Arnel's singing his heart out, delivering the goods lika a champ, AND is an all-around nice guy.
If staying in touch with fans online is his thing, everone should respect it.Not all lead vocalists wanna be a recluse.

-wech

Well Stated!!!

[JrnyScarab]

wanting to keep in touch with fans is NOT a weakness, LOL.

Arnel's probably a lot tougher and more careful than we might think.
He's said absolutley nothing citable as damaging to Journey, nor do I think he ever would.Even if he were to openly say that Augeri got dealt a bad hand,
That is NOT the same as saying he was screwed over by persons X, Y or Z.
There was supposedly a medical issue, no? There's your bum deal.

Arnel's singing his heart out, delivering the goods lika a champ, AND is an all-around nice guy.
If staying in touch with fans online is his thing, everone should respect it.Not all lead vocalists wanna be a recluse.

-wech

Well Stated!!!

Neal & Co need to lighten up and realize that Arnel is their meal ticket right now. They are relevant again and don't need to put too much pressure on Arnel to conform. Give him some slack so he feels comfortable and not caged.

[Maui Tom]

I really wish we could just give him that and not throw out bait like this (and Friga, and porno titles, and a bunch of other schutt).

A sixer of San Miguel and Ass Attack COULD be just what knellsky needs...

[DrFU]

I really wish we could just give him that and not throw out bait like this (and Friga, and porno titles, and a bunch of other schutt).

A sixer of San Miguel and Ass Attack COULD be just what knellsky needs...

omfg, Tom. Keep it up & you're next on the MK makeover...

[stevew2]

Arnel should be the spokeperson for the band. His english might not be as good,but he doesnt spew all the bullshit that neal and friga does.he knows how hard it is to sing Perrys range.He didnt put down Steve A like the other asses in the band.i respect that. Im liking Arnel, good voice, good attitude.i hope Friga doesnt corrupt him. If I was him i would sleep with my back against the wall

[tammy]

He has headaches b/c that shoutbox goes 200 mph... my laptop sounded like a beat up Dodge Shadow from all the popping of comments.

Oh, you're right...that was making my eyes ache...how can anyone follow anything? It's easier when wech translates.

[stevew2]

Where in the hell is everyone? shit im going to bed

[Saint John]

Where in the hell is everyone? shit im going to bed

Everyone is over at the Arnel board.

[wednesday's child]

A fuller transcript is up, on the first post to this thread.

[Michigan Girl]

A fuller transcript is up, on the first post to this thread.

You're the best WECH!!!

[Andrew]

I think it's fantastic that Arnel joins his fans as much as possible online. Much credit to him and I hope that he gets some rest and feels 100%.

[Since 78]

Thanks wech, I was trying to follow it while working today. Mission Impossible

[journeypower]

I get the feeling that he shouldn't be doing these chats. It makes him kinda vulnerable, imo. I mean that he is kinda like a babe in the woods with every thing he posts, overly scrutinized.

regardless of whether he chats/opens his mouth or not, he will be scrutinized. AP' taking a dump, AP brushing his teeth, AP wearing a banana outfit, etc.etc. that's the price of fame.

[annie89509]

So Knellsky is Arnel's chat name? Where did that come out of?

[stevew2]

I get the feeling that he shouldn't be doing these chats. It makes him kinda vulnerable, imo. I mean that he is kinda like a babe in the woods with every thing he posts, overly scrutinized.

regardless of whether he chats/opens his mouth or not, he will be scrutinized. AP' taking a dump, AP brushing his teeth, AP wearing a banana outfit, etc.etc. that's the price of fame.

Augeri went through the same, it was Red leathers, now it s yellow banana pants, same old shit, different color. Journey has always been a chick band.Always heard that shit and always will.