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Postby daytrpr » Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:53 am

If they do this will Cain finally shut up about hating that they're always labeled "Corporate Rock"?

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Postby edcha » Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:54 am

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The internet is yet to surpass TV in terms of usage and medium of exposure for artists especially in the Philippines. This is where the above mentioned Pinoy stars have an edge over Arnel as they are seen more often than him. Also these two artists have released and sold more albums than Arnel in the Philippines. They were also seen on more magazines, newspapers, and even movies than Arnel. When Arnel last went home to the Philippines, he was still able to go to the wet market without being recognized. Try putting Martin and/or Regine in a mall and they will be mobbed.


Seems the internet is about to surpass TV in a big way in the Philippines here mosukoshi. I'm pretty sure it already has done so in places like America. And try putting Arnel in a mall now, I'll bet his ass gets mobbed like nobody's business now.

BTW - Who's Martin and/or Regine? Because I've never heard a song from them.


internet won't surpass TV yet in the P.I., not just yet, almost all if not all household has a TV set, but only a percentage of the populace has computers in their homes and a lot lower percentage have internet connection ...

but for sure AP will still get mobbed, probably from the airport the moment he lands in the P.I., he he ...

in the PI they area BIG Stars, you'll see or hear them on TV or radio, regularly...


There is an obvious merging of the media outlets that some people don't even realize! :wink:
Be mindful that whatever significant or worthwhile happening in the internet is picked up right away by TV stations and radios (at least those that are doing a good job capturing current events---as they should!) & flashed to everyhome in the country with TV and radio---i.e., whether they have no computers or internet connections. I believe that has been happening with news about Arnel and Charice. Plus, everytime they go back home--tons of media outlets--TV & radio and whatnut are salivating to get interviews with them.

Another very effective communications outlet especially for the young Filipinos is the use of cellphone texting which is very cheap in the country. When I went home a couple of years ago, I was really amazed :shock: at how unbelievably fast these guys use their fingers and cellphone keys to communicate with each other! Unlike in the U.S., and perhaps elsewhere---it's very seldom that you see them having their phone close to their ears---but they are constantly in touch with each other! :D
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Postby edcha » Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:18 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:.....
BTW - Who's Martin and/or Regine? Because I've never heard a song from them.


Martin & Regine duet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUIEZ8mOrtw (@0:25)
Arnel & Martin duet : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=550X9GbvqQw (@ 2:25)
Arnel & Regine duet : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvW1o_bBP9s (@ 0:15) (during younger days)

These are what I have. I believe there's a lot in You Tube, if you have the chance to check. I don't have time to dig right now. :wink:
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Postby jourmapac » Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:24 am

edcha wrote:
jourmapac wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
The internet is yet to surpass TV in terms of usage and medium of exposure for artists especially in the Philippines. This is where the above mentioned Pinoy stars have an edge over Arnel as they are seen more often than him. Also these two artists have released and sold more albums than Arnel in the Philippines. They were also seen on more magazines, newspapers, and even movies than Arnel. When Arnel last went home to the Philippines, he was still able to go to the wet market without being recognized. Try putting Martin and/or Regine in a mall and they will be mobbed.


Seems the internet is about to surpass TV in a big way in the Philippines here mosukoshi. I'm pretty sure it already has done so in places like America. And try putting Arnel in a mall now, I'll bet his ass gets mobbed like nobody's business now.

BTW - Who's Martin and/or Regine? Because I've never heard a song from them.


internet won't surpass TV yet in the P.I., not just yet, almost all if not all household has a TV set, but only a percentage of the populace has computers in their homes and a lot lower percentage have internet connection ...

but for sure AP will still get mobbed, probably from the airport the moment he lands in the P.I., he he ...

in the PI they area BIG Stars, you'll see or hear them on TV or radio, regularly...


There is an obvious merging of the media outlets that some people don't even realize! :wink:
Be mindful that whatever significant or worthwhile happening in the internet is picked up right away by TV stations and radios (at least those that are doing a good job capturing current events---as they should!) & flashed to everyhome in the country with TV and radio---i.e., whether they have no computers or internet connections. I believe that has been happening with news about Arnel and Charice. Plus, everytime they go back home--tons of media outlets--TV & radio and whatnut are salivating to get interviews with them.

Another very effective communications outlet especially for the young Filipinos is the use of cellphone texting which is very cheap in the country. When I went home a couple of years ago, I was really amazed :shock: at how unbelievably fast these guys use their fingers and cellphone keys to communicate with each other! Unlike in the U.S., and perhaps elsewhere---it's very seldom that you see them having their phone close to their ears---but they are constantly in touch with each other! :D


merger of media duly noted bro ...

abs and gma got tv covered, smart & globe got MMS covered...
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Postby mdaemon » Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:58 am

jourmapac wrote:guys just my opinion, i think when arnel finally comes back home in the P.I. he will be revered like a conquering hero ...

the Philippines will momentarily STOP and focus their attention to Arnel, JUST LIKE everytime pacman fights...


Dude have you been sniffing rugby* and smoking saluyot leaves again? :lol: You do not compare Arnel to Pacman in terms of popularity. Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao is the #1 pound for pound boxer in the world today. I have always said to my friends that the Pinoy fans will make the Perry loons blush when it comes to being lunatics errr fans. Consider the following:

1. When Pacman fights, the entire Philippines stop what they are doing to watch
2. On the day of a Pacquiao fight, the military, who so badly want to obliterate the rebels, declare a unilateral ceasefire
3. The rebels are in no mood to fight either as they are busy watching Pacman kick his opponents' ass. You can even walk in the areas controlled by the Abu Sayyafs with a suitcase of cash without fear of being kidnapped as the Al Qaeda linked moro rebels are also watching Pacman on their 52" Plasma TVs hooked up to a satellite TV receiver :lol:
4. Criminals are so busy watching Pacman fight that the number of crimes committed on the day of a Pacman fight is zero
5. When Pacman knocks out an opponent, people all over the world feel a slight tremor as a result of Pinoys scattered all over the world jumping at the same time
6. Alex Pappademas got passionate and angry emails from the Perry loons when he began writing that GQ article about Journey . When this boxing writer dared criticize Pacman, the backlash that he got from the Pinoy fans was a lot more than he was expecting.

At this time, Arnel is lucky if he has 1/4 of Pacman's popularity in the Philippines. When Arnel reaches that level, the Pinoys will redefine the meaning of being a loon. Don't say I did not warn you :mrgreen: :twisted: :lol:


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Postby Voyager » Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:20 am

jourmapac wrote:guys just my opinion, i think when arnel finally comes back home in the P.I. he will be revered like a conquering hero ...

the Philippines will momentarily STOP and focus their attention to Arnel, JUST LIKE everytime pacman fights...


Yeah, just like The Gap rolled out the red carpet for Steve Augeri when Journey kicked him to the curb.

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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:57 am

edcha wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:.....
BTW - Who's Martin and/or Regine? Because I've never heard a song from them.


Martin & Regine duet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUIEZ8mOrtw (@0:25)
Arnel & Martin duet : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=550X9GbvqQw (@ 2:25)
Arnel & Regine duet : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvW1o_bBP9s (@ 0:15) (during younger days)

These are what I have. I believe there's a lot in You Tube, if you have the chance to check. I don't have time to dig right now. :wink:


O.k. so is this the same Regine that was singing Without You with AMO band back in the 80's, ref. below vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=521BVB6RTF4

In the vid above, it does not represent nothing even close or accurate to how AMO and Arnel used to perform live.

Personnally though, I can't stand the style of music that Martin & Regine were singing in the duets. Arnel is so beyond them it's pathetic really...IMO. Neither of them could even come remotely close to cutting the mustard in a band like Journey.
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Postby Don » Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:19 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
edcha wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:.....
BTW - Who's Martin and/or Regine? Because I've never heard a song from them.


Martin & Regine duet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUIEZ8mOrtw (@0:25)
Arnel & Martin duet : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=550X9GbvqQw (@ 2:25)
Arnel & Regine duet : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvW1o_bBP9s (@ 0:15) (during younger days)

These are what I have. I believe there's a lot in You Tube, if you have the chance to check. I don't have time to dig right now. :wink:


O.k. so is this the same Regine that was singing Without You with AMO band back in the 80's, ref. below vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=521BVB6RTF4

In the vid above, it does not represent nothing even close or accurate to how AMO and Arnel used to perform live.

Personnally though, I can't stand the style of music that Martin & Regine were singing in the duets. Arnel is so beyond them it's pathetic really...IMO. Neither of them could even come remotely close to cutting the mustard in a band like Journey.


Ballad after ballad after freakin ballad, that's why they can't break the American Market, the 1970's was the time for that stuff. Not to mention they do too many covers, I know revisions are big in the Philippines but here in the U.S., they are the exception rather then the rule, usually done by artists who have nothing left to prove. Having just the voice will rarely cut it here. You've got to be original and not live off of other people's work. How many artists have covered Ray Valera's work? Try to make it on your own merits for a change. Death Angel (a FIL-AM band) were all over the charts and MTV in the late eighties because they didn't conform to the Asian stereotype of only singing adult contemporay music, and all of their stuff was original to boot.

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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:28 am

Gunbot wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
edcha wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:.....
BTW - Who's Martin and/or Regine? Because I've never heard a song from them.


Martin & Regine duet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUIEZ8mOrtw (@0:25)
Arnel & Martin duet : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=550X9GbvqQw (@ 2:25)
Arnel & Regine duet : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvW1o_bBP9s (@ 0:15) (during younger days)

These are what I have. I believe there's a lot in You Tube, if you have the chance to check. I don't have time to dig right now. :wink:


O.k. so is this the same Regine that was singing Without You with AMO band back in the 80's, ref. below vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=521BVB6RTF4

In the vid above, it does not represent nothing even close or accurate to how AMO and Arnel used to perform live.

Personnally though, I can't stand the style of music that Martin & Regine were singing in the duets. Arnel is so beyond them it's pathetic really...IMO. Neither of them could even come remotely close to cutting the mustard in a band like Journey.


Ballad after ballad after freakin ballad, that's why they can't break the American Market, the 1970's was the time for that stuff. Not to mention they do too many covers, I know revisions are big in the Philippines but here in the U.S., they are the exception rather then the rule, usually done by artists who have nothing left to prove. Having just the voice will rarely cut it here. You've got to be original and not live off of other people's work. How many artists have covered Ray Valera's work? Try to make it on your own merits for a change. Death Angel (a FIL-AM band) were all over the charts and MTV in the late eighties because they didn't conform to the Asian stereotype of only singing adult contemporay music, and all of their stuff was original to boot.

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In the late 80's I had an American friend in LA who was into Death Angel. And about the covers, your absolutely right about that. This was just one of the many reasons I decided to quit Uly's band in the mid 90's and return back to the U.S. We were wasting our time and energy I thought doing covers and I told him that too. I wanted to do originals from the start. Because there is basically no new success to be had doing only covers. Scrubs like Wayne Newton love to do covers though.
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Postby Don » Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:18 am

Wayne Newton has been living off one song "Danke Schoen" for 45 years. Unbelievable, but that is only why he is mainly known as a Vegas lounge Act, abeit a very successful one.
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Postby edcha » Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:20 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
edcha wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:.....
BTW - Who's Martin and/or Regine? Because I've never heard a song from them.


Martin & Regine duet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUIEZ8mOrtw (@0:25)
Arnel & Martin duet : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=550X9GbvqQw (@ 2:25)
Arnel & Regine duet : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvW1o_bBP9s (@ 0:15) (during younger days)

These are what I have. I believe there's a lot in You Tube, if you have the chance to check. I don't have time to dig right now. :wink:


O.k. so is this the same Regine that was singing Without You with AMO band back in the 80's, ref. below vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=521BVB6RTF4

In the vid above, it does not represent nothing even close or accurate to how AMO and Arnel used to perform live.

Personnally though, I can't stand the style of music that Martin & Regine were singing in the duets. Arnel is so beyond them it's pathetic really...IMO. Neither of them could even come remotely close to cutting the mustard in a band like Journey.


I agree. Actually, you were exchanging notes with mdaemon---it just so happened that I have some links handy on these two singers--so I gave them to you....You may expect some kind of rebuttal from mdaemon. He may even have nicer vid clips.
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Postby jourmapac » Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:23 pm

mdaemon wrote:
jourmapac wrote:guys just my opinion, i think when arnel finally comes back home in the P.I. he will be revered like a conquering hero ...

the Philippines will momentarily STOP and focus their attention to Arnel, JUST LIKE everytime pacman fights...


Dude have you been sniffing rugby* and smoking saluyot leaves again? :lol: You do not compare Arnel to Pacman in terms of popularity. Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao is the #1 pound for pound boxer in the world today. I have always said to my friends that the Pinoy fans will make the Perry loons blush when it comes to being lunatics errr fans. Consider the following:

1. When Pacman fights, the entire Philippines stop what they are doing to watch
2. On the day of a Pacquiao fight, the military, who so badly want to obliterate the rebels, declare a unilateral ceasefire
3. The rebels are in no mood to fight either as they are busy watching Pacman kick his opponents' ass. You can even walk in the areas controlled by the Abu Sayyafs with a suitcase of cash without fear of being kidnapped as the Al Qaeda linked moro rebels are also watching Pacman on their 52" Plasma TVs hooked up to a satellite TV receiver :lol:
4. Criminals are so busy watching Pacman fight that the number of crimes committed on the day of a Pacman fight is zero
5. When Pacman knocks out an opponent, people all over the world feel a slight tremor as a result of Pinoys scattered all over the world jumping at the same time
6. Alex Pappademas got passionate and angry emails from the Perry loons when he began writing that GQ article about Journey . When this boxing writer dared criticize Pacman, the backlash that he got from the Pinoy fans was a lot more than he was expecting.

At this time, Arnel is lucky if he has 1/4 of Pacman's popularity in the Philippines. When Arnel reaches that level, the Pinoys will redefine the meaning of being a loon. Don't say I did not warn you :mrgreen: :twisted: :lol:



lol bro, that is harsh, where I am, we don't even have cactus here ....

I have exaggerated Arnel's "would be" popularity when he comes back home to make a point, I did not know of Arnel during may last vacation in the P.I. dec07-jan08, BUT I know of if him now, time is changing and Arnel's popularity is gaining...

and lol your warning should be duly noted...he he

P.S. just like you, i am a pacman fan myself, check me out at pacland or boxingscene (jomapac)
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Postby Babyblue » Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:38 pm

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Behshad wrote:Neal tried the Nike Basketball promotion few years ago


Really? When did they make basketball shoes with 3" lifts? :twisted: :lol:



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Postby edcha » Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:28 pm

Babyblue wrote:
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Behshad wrote:Neal tried the Nike Basketball promotion few years ago


Really? When did they make basketball shoes with 3" lifts? :twisted: :lol:



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