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Postby texafana » Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:43 pm

Yah.. I fked up the title of this thread...

Should have been something like "Is The Desire To Bring Back Steve Perry Finally Fading?" Or something along those lines. Sorry! :shock:
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Postby stevew2 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:45 pm

texafana wrote:Yah.. I fked up the title of this thread...

Should have been something like "Is The Desire To Bring Back Steve Perry Finally Fading?" Or something along those lines. Sorry! :shock:
It was a retarded thread, the title sucked to begin with
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Postby Enigma869 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:02 pm

texafana wrote: This thread isn't about Steve Perry's legacy fading, it's about "Journey needing / wanting Steve Perry" in 2008 and beyond. I think Arnel will slowly cause all those "Bring back Steve P" rants to fade out.


Dude...I'm not sure where you're hanging out, but I certainly don't see anyone screaming for Journey to "bring back Steve P". The petition hasn't made it's way to my desk. Maybe if you're hanging out at some over the top Perry fan site, you're seeing that shit, but you're not seeing it here. For me, Perry is the greatest singer I ever heard, period, end of story. Anytime you doubt that, pop in your 1981 concert DVD and watch Perry sing "Mother/Father", and you'll NEVER dare compare anyone to the guy again, because there is NOBODY out there who can touch that performance...NOBODY!

texafana wrote: All those concert goers, peeps buying the new CD, I doubt hardly anyone is going "bring back Steve" anymore. Journey has someone who doesn't have to worry about the comparisons, or not sounding good enough, looking good enough, etc, etc.


I really think you're missing the point. Don't you understand that any concert is a venue of captive audience members (i.e. they're there because they want to be there, not because they're on a prison furlough). Sure they're having fun and enjoying the music. What would be the point of going, otherwise? Also, you need to get over this whole "not looking good enough" stuff you keep spewing. I don't know about you, but I'm more inclined to be checking out the girl's rack next to me, than I am Arnel's moves or Perry's goofy self :shock: One of these days you'll figure out that it's only chicks who bring up non-sensical (he doesn't look the right way for Journey bullshit). I hope to God that you're a chick. If not, than my concern is growing for you :shock:

texafana wrote: I'd be curious if you end up thinking to yourself "bring back Steve P" while enjoying the show.


There aren't many of us sitting around waiting for Perry to come back. I don't want Perry back, anymore than I want an IROC-Z28, Atari, or a VCR! It's 2008, not 1983, and most of us are okay with that. I can assure you that when I was sitting around watching the Celtics suck for the past 20 years (prior to this past season), I wasn't sitting around saying "Man, I wish they would bring Larry Bird back". I had no desire for them to bring Bird back, even though all their glory and honor left with him. Having said that, it certainly didn't diminish the ENORMOUS legacy of Larry Bird, because the Celtics moved on, after he retired. He still has all his championships, and Perry still has all of his brilliant music! The difference is that the Celtics have actually won a championship without Bird. Journey is A LONG way off from winning their "championship"!


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Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:25 pm

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Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:27 pm

stevew2 wrote:
texafana wrote:Yah.. I fked up the title of this thread...

Should have been something like "Is The Desire To Bring Back Steve Perry Finally Fading?" Or something along those lines. Sorry! :shock:
It was a retarded thread, the title sucked to begin with


:lol: :lol: :lol:
SW2 gets right to the point!!! :wink:
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Postby stevew2 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:55 pm

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stevew2 wrote:
texafana wrote:Yah.. I fked up the title of this thread...

Should have been something like "Is The Desire To Bring Back Steve Perry Finally Fading?" Or something along those lines. Sorry! :shock:
It was a retarded thread, the title sucked to begin with


:lol: :lol: :lol:
SW2 gets right to the point!!! :wink:
Are you wear green Tom or at least your heels and glasses?.MG Im seeing Journey tom night, and I am actually excited. Never thought Id say that again.Ill let you know if it sucks.Im sure it wont. Got my Friga shirt ready.Ill take along some thin mints to drown out the booze odor from my loins. ill be thinkin of you in your office the next day as my head will be spliting
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Postby Rhiannon » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:59 pm

stevew2 wrote:the booze odor from my loins.


Dare I ask? :shock: :lol:
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Postby DrFU » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:03 pm

Rhiannon wrote:
stevew2 wrote:the booze odor from my loins.


Dare I ask? :shock: :lol:


God no, please don't ! :lol:

Pictures, W2, we want pictures ...
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Postby Rhiannon » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:04 pm

DrFU wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
stevew2 wrote:the booze odor from my loins.


Dare I ask? :shock: :lol:


God no, please don't ! :lol:

Pictures, W2, we want pictures ...


Of his booze soaked loins? Or of his Friga shirt?
...Please don't say loins. :lol:
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Postby DrFU » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:06 pm

Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
stevew2 wrote:the booze odor from my loins.


Dare I ask? :shock: :lol:


God no, please don't ! :lol:

Pictures, W2, we want pictures ...


Of his booze soaked loins? Or of his Friga shirt?
...Please don't say loins. :lol:


Deliberately left that one ... open ended 8) :lol:
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Postby Rhiannon » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:08 pm

DrFU wrote:Deliberately left that one ... open ended 8) :lol:


Such as will be with the bottles of liquor we'll find at Cruiser's next weekend. :lol:
Oh wait... am I off topic the off topic? :oops:
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Postby DrFU » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:10 pm

Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:Deliberately left that one ... open ended 8) :lol:


Such as will be with the bottles of liquor we'll find at Cruiser's next weekend. :lol:
Oh wait... am I off topic the off topic? :oops:


I think the booze soaked loins had something to do with Jon, so we might be good for another couple of volleys ...
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:12 pm

Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:Deliberately left that one ... open ended 8) :lol:


Such as will be with the bottles of liquor we'll find at Cruiser's next weekend. :lol:
Oh wait... am I off topic the off topic? :oops:


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Postby Rhiannon » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:13 pm

DrFU wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:Deliberately left that one ... open ended 8) :lol:


Such as will be with the bottles of liquor we'll find at Cruiser's next weekend. :lol:
Oh wait... am I off topic the off topic? :oops:


I think the booze soaked loins had something to do with Jon, so we might be good for another couple of volleys ...


And liquor has to do with booze which had to do with loins which had to do with Jon which had to do with Perry.

Yep. We're all good here. 8)
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:14 pm

DrFU wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:Deliberately left that one ... open ended 8) :lol:


Such as will be with the bottles of liquor we'll find at Cruiser's next weekend. :lol:
Oh wait... am I off topic the off topic? :oops:


I think the booze soaked loins had something to do with Jon, so we might be good for another couple of volleys ...


Alright wait a minute... I definitely don't want to talk about Jon's loins.
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Postby Since 78 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:16 pm

Enigma869 wrote:
texafana wrote: This thread isn't about Steve Perry's legacy fading, it's about "Journey needing / wanting Steve Perry" in 2008 and beyond. I think Arnel will slowly cause all those "Bring back Steve P" rants to fade out.


Dude...I'm not sure where you're hanging out, but I certainly don't see anyone screaming for Journey to "bring back Steve P". The petition hasn't made it's way to my desk. Maybe if you're hanging out at some over the top Perry fan site, you're seeing that shit, but you're not seeing it here. For me, Perry is the greatest singer I ever heard, period, end of story. Anytime you doubt that, pop in your 1981 concert DVD and watch Perry sing "Mother/Father", and you'll NEVER dare compare anyone to the guy again, because there is NOBODY out there who can touch that performance...NOBODY!

texafana wrote: All those concert goers, peeps buying the new CD, I doubt hardly anyone is going "bring back Steve" anymore. Journey has someone who doesn't have to worry about the comparisons, or not sounding good enough, looking good enough, etc, etc.


I really think you're missing the point. Don't you understand that any concert is a venue of captive audience members (i.e. they're there because they want to be there, not because they're on a prison furlough). Sure they're having fun and enjoying the music. What would be the point of going, otherwise? Also, you need to get over this whole "not looking good enough" stuff you keep spewing. I don't know about you, but I'm more inclined to be checking out the girl's rack next to me, than I am Arnel's moves or Perry's goofy self :shock: One of these days you'll figure out that it's only chicks who bring up non-sensical (he doesn't look the right way for Journey bullshit). I hope to God that you're a chick. If not, than my concern is growing for you :shock:

texafana wrote: I'd be curious if you end up thinking to yourself "bring back Steve P" while enjoying the show.


There aren't many of us sitting around waiting for Perry to come back. I don't want Perry back, anymore than I want an IROC-Z28, Atari, or a VCR! It's 2008, not 1983, and most of us are okay with that. I can assure you that when I was sitting around watching the Celtics suck for the past 20 years (prior to this past season), I wasn't sitting around saying "Man, I wish they would bring Larry Bird back". I had no desire for them to bring Bird back, even though all their glory and honor left with him. Having said that, it certainly didn't diminish the ENORMOUS legacy of Larry Bird, because the Celtics moved on, after he retired. He still has all his championships, and Perry still has all of his brilliant music! The difference is that the Celtics have actually won a championship without Bird. Journey is A LONG way off from winning their "championship"!


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Dude!!! You made me laugh!! :lol: :lol: :shock: Seriously :)
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:19 pm

Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:Deliberately left that one ... open ended 8) :lol:


Such as will be with the bottles of liquor we'll find at Cruiser's next weekend. :lol:
Oh wait... am I off topic the off topic? :oops:


I think the booze soaked loins had something to do with Jon, so we might be good for another couple of volleys ...


And liquor has to do with booze which had to do with loins which had to do with Jon which had to do with Perry.

Yep. We're all good here. 8)


What is this, six degrees of staying on topic?

The topic was "Steve Perry is washed up and forgotten" which translated into "texafana wtf are you smoking and did you bring enough for all of us." 3 pages later, texafana re-explained the initial intent and we're all good. And here come you two screwing it all up again talking about Frig's frijole. :evil:

Goodnight.
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Postby DrFU » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:21 pm

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:Deliberately left that one ... open ended 8) :lol:


Such as will be with the bottles of liquor we'll find at Cruiser's next weekend. :lol:
Oh wait... am I off topic the off topic? :oops:


I think the booze soaked loins had something to do with Jon, so we might be good for another couple of volleys ...


And liquor has to do with booze which had to do with loins which had to do with Jon which had to do with Perry.

Yep. We're all good here. 8)


What is this, six degrees of staying on topic?

The topic was "Steve Perry is washed up and forgotten" which translated into "texafana wtf are you smoking and did you bring enough for all of us." 3 pages later, texafana re-explained the initial intent and we're all good. And here come you two screwing it all up again talking about Frig's frijole. :evil:

Goodnight.


St. Buzzkill's rules expire at midnight. :lol:

Not that it matters; never been good with rules in any case.

Night gals and guys ...
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Postby Rhiannon » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:23 pm

DrFU wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:Deliberately left that one ... open ended 8) :lol:


Such as will be with the bottles of liquor we'll find at Cruiser's next weekend. :lol:
Oh wait... am I off topic the off topic? :oops:


I think the booze soaked loins had something to do with Jon, so we might be good for another couple of volleys ...


And liquor has to do with booze which had to do with loins which had to do with Jon which had to do with Perry.

Yep. We're all good here. 8)


What is this, six degrees of staying on topic?

The topic was "Steve Perry is washed up and forgotten" which translated into "texafana wtf are you smoking and did you bring enough for all of us." 3 pages later, texafana re-explained the initial intent and we're all good. And here come you two screwing it all up again talking about Frig's frijole. :evil:

Goodnight.


St. Buzzkill's rules expire at midnight. :lol:

Not that it matters; never been good with rules in any case.

Night gals and guys ...


Um. Yep. What they said... goodnight! :P
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Postby stevew2 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:28 pm

Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
stevew2 wrote:the booze odor from my loins.


Dare I ask? :shock: :lol:


God no, please don't ! :lol:

Pictures, W2, we want pictures ...


Of his booze soaked loins? Or of his Friga shirt?
...Please don't say loins. :lol:
Both will be soaked, as my liver. Just finshing up the shirt, I dropped my phone in the pool, Ill get my daugher to take some picts.Ill try to keep it together tom night. Last time a saw Journey Reo and Styks. and scraped my truck at MCI.Im not drivin this time.
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Postby Since 78 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:30 pm

stevew2 wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
stevew2 wrote:the booze odor from my loins.


Dare I ask? :shock: :lol:


God no, please don't ! :lol:

Pictures, W2, we want pictures ...


Of his booze soaked loins? Or of his Friga shirt?
...Please don't say loins. :lol:
Both will be soaked, as my liver. Just finshing up the shirt, I dropped my phone in the pool, Ill get my daugher to take some picts.Ill try to keep it together tom night. Last time a saw Journey Reo and Styks. and scraped my truck at MCI.Im not drivin this time.


Yeah!! Um, Try to come back in one piece!! :lol: :lol:
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Postby daltonsdad » Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:05 pm

While true the new lead singer sounds great, and I will tell you more after tonight. However, the reason this job is available and the gigs continue is simply the masterful vocal ability shown by Steve Perry while establishing Journey as a powerhouse and a household name with hits a mile long. There would be no Journey 3, tours, new cd's, merchandising or any cash rolling in if they had not hired Mr Perry. His leadership is what helped the band grow and evolve and his greatness left a legacy that continues today. There is no need to compare. Without Steve there is no Journey 3. Without Journey 3, this young man would still be at home with no opportunity to showcase his obvious talents. All this again made possible by Steve Perry, his voice, his song writing and his direction.

I still do not understand the need to bash the different guys. I myself am glad they continue on and will be glad as long as they sound good! I wish all of those who contributed to the success of a band who has offered me so much pleasure for $10 bux a pop for albums, as many happy days as they have given me. Cranking the Journey since the early 80's to 2008 and on. I have seen them all and appreciate each for thir contribution and for my son being able to relate to what I loved as well!
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Postby stevew2 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:08 pm

Since 78 wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
stevew2 wrote:the booze odor from my loins.


Dare I ask? :shock: :lol:


God no, please don't ! :lol:

Pictures, W2, we want pictures ...


Of his booze soaked loins? Or of his Friga shirt?
...Please don't say loins. :lol:
Both will be soaked, as my liver. Just finshing up the shirt, I dropped my phone in the pool, Ill get my daugher to take some picts.Ill try to keep it together tom night. Last time a saw Journey Reo and Styks. and scraped my truck at MCI.Im not drivin this time.


Yeah!! Um, Try to come back in one piece!! :lol: :lol:
I will, just not sure what piece.Ill try to be good. Its not to good for my daughter to see me as fucking drunk.I will try my best.I am looking forward to Heart and Arnel.5 th row is cool.It was a surprise. I want to see Friga play the guitar and him seeing my pink Friga shirt. He gave me a thumbs up 5 years ago.thats when we fell in love. ill let ya know
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:29 pm

texafana wrote:Yah.. I fked up the title of this thread...

Should have been something like "Is The Desire To Bring Back Steve Perry Finally Fading?" Or something along those lines. Sorry! :shock:


It's basically the same no matter what wording you used. And yeah, you should have known better then to create a thread like this on this board dude! It has virtual ass kicking written all over it. So next time when you get the urge to do up another one of these types of threads, may as well just go out, find yourself the biggest and most active wasp nest you've ever seen in your entire life before and beat on it with nine iron for a few minutes. :wink:
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Postby artist4perry » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:03 pm

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
texafana wrote:Yah.. I fked up the title of this thread...

Should have been something like "Is The Desire To Bring Back Steve Perry Finally Fading?" Or something along those lines. Sorry! :shock:


It's basically the same no matter what wording you used. And yeah, you should have known better then to create a thread like this on this board dude! It has virtual ass kicking written all over it. So next time when you get the urge to do up another one of these types of threads, may as well just go out, find yourself the biggest and most active wasp nest you've ever seen in your entire life before and beat on it with nine iron for a few minutes. :wink:

I think it would help not to bash the past, and not to generalize. Don't make blanket statements about how everyone should feel about any subject. One thing you will find is on any subject there are varying oppinions. Feel free to let me know how that thing with the wasp nest goes, it probably would be less painful! :wink: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:28 pm

stevew2 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
texafana wrote:Yah.. I fked up the title of this thread...

Should have been something like "Is The Desire To Bring Back Steve Perry Finally Fading?" Or something along those lines. Sorry! :shock:
It was a retarded thread, the title sucked to begin with


:lol: :lol: :lol:
SW2 gets right to the point!!! :wink:
Are you wear green Tom or at least your heels and glasses?.MG Im seeing Journey tom night, and I am actually excited. Never thought Id say that again.Ill let you know if it sucks.Im sure it wont. Got my Friga shirt ready.Ill take along some thin mints to drown out the booze odor from my loins. ill be thinkin of you in your office the next day as my head will be spliting


Awww....I'm excited for you. It's going to be great!!! Sounds to me like they are getting better as they go and who
knows. Friga may smile!!! I'll be thinking of you in your pink shirt (we need a pic of that)...... :lol: :wink:
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Postby BobbyinTN » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:52 am

Nothing or no one will ever take away what Steve Perry has done for Journey and the influence he had on me, a male singer with a high voice. He showed that you didn't have to scream to sing rock and that you could go from harder songs to soft ballads. Steve Perry along with other tenors from the 80's, Russell Hitchcock, Dennis DeYoung, Brad Delp (RIP) and a few others are responsible for forming my voice and my taste and how I write songs. His legacy is there and when I listen to old Journey, it's almost sensory overload from the memories associated with that music.

However, in this new incarnation with the powerhouse vocalist, Arnel, I've got even more inspiration, first of all from a man who is about the same age as I am and still singing like a motherfucker, and from a re-energized band that's made me start buying CDs again and looking forward to new music from them.

I loved Steve Augeri's voice and thought he did a great job as a part of Journey, but can't say I was ever as excited about his voice as I am Arnel's.

I never thought JSS was the right fit for Journey. I loved his voice and his stuff with Soul Sirkus, but he never had that "Journey sound" that I love and while he is amazingly talented and a great front man, it's just how I felt and still feel.

Steve Perry was the voice that defined Journey. Arnel's voice is what has given Journey new life.


One more thing about Augeri and Perry. At times I couldn't tell the difference in Augeri's voice and Perry's, other than little words or phrases, but with Arnel, he sounds like Arnel with just enough Perry to make it perfect.
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Postby stevew2 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:34 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
texafana wrote:Yah.. I fked up the title of this thread...

Should have been something like "Is The Desire To Bring Back Steve Perry Finally Fading?" Or something along those lines. Sorry! :shock:
It was a retarded thread, the title sucked to begin with


:lol: :lol: :lol:
SW2 gets right to the point!!! :wink:
Are you wear green Tom or at least your heels and glasses?.MG Im seeing Journey tom night, and I am actually excited. Never thought Id say that again.Ill let you know if it sucks.Im sure it wont. Got my Friga shirt ready.Ill take along some thin mints to drown out the booze odor from my loins. ill be thinkin of you in your office the next day as my head will be spliting


Awww....I'm excited for you. It's going to be great!!! Sounds to me like they are getting better as they go and who
knows. Friga may smile!!! I'll be thinking of you in your pink shirt (we need a pic of that)...... :lol: :wink:
If he smiles I will shit my pants.I cant wait to see his double chin
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Postby Enigma869 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:34 am

BobbyinTN wrote:One more thing about Augeri and Perry. At times I couldn't tell the difference in Augeri's voice and Perry's, other than little words or phrases



You're a singer and couldn't tell the difference between Augeri's voice and Perry's??? You're joking, right??? My wife (who knows ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about music) NEVER confuses those two voices! Sorry dude...you just lost ALL credibility with me. I don't think Arnel sounds like Perry either, but he's 1000% closer to emulating the sound than Augeri's weak and thin voice were! Augeri had a pleasant enough singing voice, when he was singing material that was written for his voice. I enjoyed "Arrival", immensely, and still do. That said, he was a disaster (sorry Augeri worshippers) on Perry material. He simply could NEVER, EVER, EVER sing in the range necessary, to sing Journey's back catalog (and I'm talking about long before he had the invasion of yeast monkeys on his throat)! I give Augeri a lot of credit for hanging in as long as he did, but anyone who has ever even sang Karaoke could hear Augeri struggling to hit a single high note. That doesn't make him a bad guy or even a bad singer. It simply means that he was attempting to sing material that he never should have been asked to sing! I honestly don't think you'll even find too many Augeri stalkers (at least the ones with two brain cells connected) who would tell you that they couldn't tell the difference between those two voices :shock:


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Postby Tomulator » Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:36 am

Marabelle wrote:Well the absolute truth is that Mr. Perry is not singing and of course new fans will only see and remember Arnel up front leading the band. I think that is fine. For those of us who only remember being there with Mr. Perry and holding him dear to our hearts then that is fine as well. There is no comparison between the two other than they happen to sing some of the same songs! I enjoy Arnel, I think he is very talented and what a chance he is getting to be center stage with some talented musicians. Wow! Steve is not fading in the memories of all of the fans; he's still somewhere in our thoughts and in our hearts with lingering enchanted cherished memories of spectacular nights together! No denial of that! Although he is not on stage singing he is still close by never too far away always a treasure we will forever hold dear and keep alive in our thoughts.


Good thing there isn't any significant number of "new" fans then.

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