OT- Palin to be a grandma

[RossValoryRocks]

I like the fact that Gov. Palin doesn't see the child this way, "If my daughter makes a mistake I don't want her punished with a baby." Guess who made this statement?

The young lady and her family are taking responsibility for her actions, not running to the local abortion clinic as a matter of convenience.

The causation between the notoriously anti-sex ed. Gov. Palin and her daughter’s now preggo state cannot be overlooked.
At least Obama was talking about educating kids about sex and its consequences when he made that ill-phrased remark.
Palin would rather have kids frolic dumb and naked in the Alaskan tundra .

Please give me some sources for the anti-sex ed leanings of Gov. Palin? It's not that I doubt you here, but this is the first I have heard of this and that hasn't come out in media at all, and you would think it would almost instantly given what has happened.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Please give me some sources for the anti-sex ed leanings of Gov. Palin? It's not that I doubt you here, but this is the first I have heard of this and that hasn't come out in media at all, and you would think it would almost instantly given what has happened.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/ ... sexed.html
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/ ... 20417.aspx

[7 Wishes]

So much for the expedience of the "liberal" media.

[Rick]

So much for the expedience of the "liberal" media.

It's Labor Day.

[7 Wishes]

Well ALL liberals don't work, because they're all lazy welfare moochers. So why are Democrats - who don't even deserve to breathe the same air as God's chosen party, the Republicans - even allowed to celebrate Labor Day?

[Rick]

Well ALL liberals don't work, because they're all lazy welfare moochers. So why are Democrats - who don't even deserve to breathe the same air as God's chosen party, the Republicans - even allowed to celebrate Labor Day?

[RossValoryRocks]

Please give me some sources for the anti-sex ed leanings of Gov. Palin? It's not that I doubt you here, but this is the first I have heard of this and that hasn't come out in media at all, and you would think it would almost instantly given what has happened.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/ ... sexed.html
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/ ... 20417.aspx

I don't know...seems her statement could be read a number of ways.

She could be saying she only wants abstinence only or that should would oppose legislation that doesn't include it.

Or it could be she is talking out of both sides of her mouth, as politicians are want to do.

Maybe we could get a full transcript the conversation.

[RossValoryRocks]

Well ALL liberals don't work, because they're all lazy welfare moochers. So why are Democrats - who don't even deserve to breathe the same air as God's chosen party, the Republicans - even allowed to celebrate Labor Day?

Well that is good question...get back to work...no more welfare for you!

[ebake02]

God's chosen party, the Republicans

God must have been hungover when he made that choice.

[scarygirl]

The only thing that bothers me about this is if the daughter is being boon doggled into marrying the guy and keeping the baby to make her mother look good. Not saying she should have an abortion. But if that were me at 17, I'd certainly consider adoption. No one should be boon doggled into that one either.

This is just a bad situation. I'm afraid it's going to cast negatively at election time.

[Arianddu]

When I saw the headlines saying "Palin chosen as running mate" - I thought they meant Michael Palin from Monty Python.

So did I! What a campaign that would have been.

And I thought it was just me who was crazy! [and stevew2]

Nah, normal people are boring ...

Here's a confession for ya ... long ago I used to teach high school English; students and I slogged through The Scarlet Letter every year ... every time Reverend Dimsdale's name came up in the text, I'd get a flash of Python's giant hedgehog popping up on the screen and muttering, "Dimsdale!" Most inappropriate of me.

Aah yes, Doug & Dinsdale Pirahna.

One of them imagined he had a giant hedgehog named Spiny Norman in his garage.

Here's a confession for you............I have a teeny weeny swarovski crystal hedgehog on my bookshelves - and I call him SHINY Norman in his honour!

Saw a bloke with a tattoo of Spiny Norman on his back at the beach once, and always wished I'd had the courage to ask him if his name was Dinsdale

[7 Wishes]

This is just a bad situation. I'm afraid it's going to cast negatively at election time.

Any Democrat who goes after this is an asshole, and will lose my vote.

[annpea]

This, whole mess is bound to erupt, into a nightmare. For so many years there has been an ongoing battle to slow down the teen pregnancy rate; what the hell is going on here? we now have the GOP using it and a practically unknown female Gov. to try and win an election. It should be an insult to every female, that these crazy people would attempt to use a woman and her young daughter in such a manner just to get votes. The fact that this woman would sale out her child to the wolves, just to gain fifteen minutes of fame and set off a new wave of teenage parenting in this country at a time when we can least afford it emotionally, mentally and financially. What is this saying to our children? I would now rather sit on my vote than give it to a group of people who would stoop that low to get votes.

[RossValoryRocks]

This, whole mess is bound to erupt, into a nightmare. For so many years there has been an ongoing battle to slow down the teen pregnancy rate; what the hell is going on here? we now have the GOP using it and a practically unknown female Gov. to try and win an election. It should be an insult to every female, that these crazy people would attempt to use a woman and her young daughter in such a manner just to get votes. The fact that this woman would sale out her child to the wolves, just to gain fifteen minutes of fame and set off a new wave of teenage parenting in this country at a time when we can least afford it emotionally, mentally and financially. What is this saying to our children? I would now rather sit on my vote than give it to a group of people who would stoop that low to get votes.

What the hell are you talking about? If you think the republicans WANTED this news to get out now you are out of your mind.

They are not using Sarah Palin, her daughter or the baby as political point making here.

Obama was very much in the right and showed a ton of class when he said that it is a non issue and they should be left out of the political fray.

Now I know it won't stop the more rabid of the Democrat bloggers, and hasn't, but the kid (both the 17 year old and the coming baby) should be off limits politically.

As for the Republicans using this as political points that is a ludicrious assertion.

[conversationpc]

Please give me some sources for the anti-sex ed leanings of Gov. Palin? It's not that I doubt you here, but this is the first I have heard of this and that hasn't come out in media at all, and you would think it would almost instantly given what has happened.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/ ... sexed.html
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/ ... 20417.aspx

I don't know...seems her statement could be read a number of ways.

She could be saying she only wants abstinence only or that should would oppose legislation that doesn't include it.

Or it could be she is talking out of both sides of her mouth, as politicians are want to do.

Maybe we could get a full transcript the conversation.

There is nothing in those two links that say Palin is against sex education. They indicate that she does not support the "give away free contraception"-type sex education. Big difference there. Typical stretching of the truth by the resident ultra-liberal.

[Michigan Girl]

This, whole mess is bound to erupt, into a nightmare. For so many years there has been an ongoing battle to slow down the teen pregnancy rate; what the hell is going on here? we now have the GOP using it and a practically unknown female Gov. to try and win an election. It should be an insult to every female, that these crazy people would attempt to use a woman and her young daughter in such a manner just to get votes. The fact that this woman would sale out her child to the wolves, just to gain fifteen minutes of fame and set off a new wave of teenage parenting in this country at a time when we can least afford it emotionally, mentally and financially. What is this saying to our children? I would now rather sit on my vote than give it to a group of people who would stoop that low to get votes.

What the hell are you talking about? If you think the republicans WANTED this news to get out now you are out of your mind.

They are not using Sarah Palin or her daughter.

Obama was very much in the right and showed a ton of class when he said that it is a non issue and they should be left out of the political fray.

Now I know it won't stop the more rabid of the Democrat bloggers, and hasn't, but the kid (both the 17 year old and the coming baby) should be off limits politically.

As for the Republicans using this as political points that is a ludicrious assertion.

+1

[RossValoryRocks]

This, whole mess is bound to erupt, into a nightmare. For so many years there has been an ongoing battle to slow down the teen pregnancy rate; what the hell is going on here? we now have the GOP using it and a practically unknown female Gov. to try and win an election. It should be an insult to every female, that these crazy people would attempt to use a woman and her young daughter in such a manner just to get votes. The fact that this woman would sale out her child to the wolves, just to gain fifteen minutes of fame and set off a new wave of teenage parenting in this country at a time when we can least afford it emotionally, mentally and financially. What is this saying to our children? I would now rather sit on my vote than give it to a group of people who would stoop that low to get votes.

What the hell are you talking about? If you think the republicans WANTED this news to get out now you are out of your mind.

They are not using Sarah Palin or her daughter.

Obama was very much in the right and showed a ton of class when he said that it is a non issue and they should be left out of the political fray.

Now I know it won't stop the more rabid of the Democrat bloggers, and hasn't, but the kid (both the 17 year old and the coming baby) should be off limits politically.

As for the Republicans using this as political points that is a ludicrious assertion.

+1

Sorry I will go back and edit to add the baby as well! LOL

[annpea]

This, whole mess is bound to erupt, into a nightmare. For so many years there has been an ongoing battle to slow down the teen pregnancy rate; what the hell is going on here? we now have the GOP using it and a practically unknown female Gov. to try and win an election. It should be an insult to every female, that these crazy people would attempt to use a woman and her young daughter in such a manner just to get votes. The fact that this woman would sale out her child to the wolves, just to gain fifteen minutes of fame and set off a new wave of teenage parenting in this country at a time when we can least afford it emotionally, mentally and financially. What is this saying to our children? I would now rather sit on my vote than give it to a group of people who would stoop that low to get votes.

What the hell are you talking about? If you think the republicans WANTED this news to get out now you are out of your mind.

They are not using Sarah Palin, her daughter or the baby as political point making here.

Obama was very much in the right and showed a ton of class when he said that it is a non issue and they should be left out of the political fray.

Now I know it won't stop the more rabid of the Democrat bloggers, and hasn't, but the kid (both the 17 year old and the coming baby) should be off limits politically.

As for the Republicans using this as political points that is a ludicrious assertion.

Get real, if they knew this before she was selected , what makes you think that they didn't for one moment think it would'nt get out.

[Barb]

I have a daughter who turns 17 later this month. I am a conservative, have taught her everything I can about values, morality and sex. However, I am not dumb enough to believe that is enough to stop her from having sex if that is what she decides to do.

It happens, it's part of life. I feel bad the daughter has to be dragged through the mud like this.

[RossValoryRocks]

This, whole mess is bound to erupt, into a nightmare. For so many years there has been an ongoing battle to slow down the teen pregnancy rate; what the hell is going on here? we now have the GOP using it and a practically unknown female Gov. to try and win an election. It should be an insult to every female, that these crazy people would attempt to use a woman and her young daughter in such a manner just to get votes. The fact that this woman would sale out her child to the wolves, just to gain fifteen minutes of fame and set off a new wave of teenage parenting in this country at a time when we can least afford it emotionally, mentally and financially. What is this saying to our children? I would now rather sit on my vote than give it to a group of people who would stoop that low to get votes.

What the hell are you talking about? If you think the republicans WANTED this news to get out now you are out of your mind.

They are not using Sarah Palin, her daughter or the baby as political point making here.

Obama was very much in the right and showed a ton of class when he said that it is a non issue and they should be left out of the political fray.

Now I know it won't stop the more rabid of the Democrat bloggers, and hasn't, but the kid (both the 17 year old and the coming baby) should be off limits politically.

As for the Republicans using this as political points that is a ludicrious assertion.

Get real, if they knew this before she was selected , what makes you think that they didn't for one moment think it would'nt get out.

They knew it would get out...they didn't want it to get out this soon...especially knowing the liberal attack hounds were drooling to find SOMETHING to smear Gov. Palin with.

You are just way off base in your assertion.

[Michigan Girl]

I have a daughter who turns 17 later this month. I am a conservative, have taught her everything I can about values, morality and sex. However, I am not dumb enough to believe that is enough to stop her from having sex if that is what she decides to do.

It happens, it's part of life. I feel bad the daughter has to be dragged through the mud like this.

Amen, Barb, we do the best we can and then at some point it's just out of our hands!!!

[Rhiannon]

So, some of you think that a teenage girl's pregnancy can be the deciding factor in the fate of our Nation? Bristol Palin probably only wishes she were that powerful. And if our citizens are unhinged enough to base voting practices on a teenage indiscretion, then they should have their voting rights revoked.

[RossValoryRocks]

So, some of you think that a teenage girl's pregnancy can be the deciding factor in the fate of our Nation? Bristol Palin probably only wishes she were that powerful. And if our citizens are unhinged enough to base voting practices on a teenage indiscretion, then they should have their voting rights revoked.

Some of us yes...the rest of us think it is a non issue and should be left alone and dealt with by the family privately.

Unfortunately there are those people (not neccessarily here) who won't do that and will use this as an opportunity to attack Gov. Palin and her family.

[whirlwind]

Wow! What an eye opener this topic is. The posters's opinions here surprise me but one gets an insight into the personality and character of people here.

How a women can live without the quilt of abortion haunting her life is a mystery. They should all become sterile with the action, imo.

Anyone who believes that this situation was used simply to get some votes is really reaching. I believe that McCain knew about the Palin familys expectations and probably considered it something that the average American family was very familiar with and the great family support and understanding within the family makes for a stable personality for Sarah as great backup for McCain. Don't tell me that the women lacks experience in what may be behind any door.

[conversationpc]

This, whole mess is bound to erupt, into a nightmare. For so many years there has been an ongoing battle to slow down the teen pregnancy rate; what the hell is going on here? we now have the GOP using it and a practically unknown female Gov. to try and win an election. It should be an insult to every female, that these crazy people would attempt to use a woman and her young daughter in such a manner just to get votes. The fact that this woman would sale out her child to the wolves, just to gain fifteen minutes of fame and set off a new wave of teenage parenting in this country at a time when we can least afford it emotionally, mentally and financially. What is this saying to our children? I would now rather sit on my vote than give it to a group of people who would stoop that low to get votes.

What the hell are you talking about? If you think the republicans WANTED this news to get out now you are out of your mind.

They are not using Sarah Palin, her daughter or the baby as political point making here.

Obama was very much in the right and showed a ton of class when he said that it is a non issue and they should be left out of the political fray.

Now I know it won't stop the more rabid of the Democrat bloggers, and hasn't, but the kid (both the 17 year old and the coming baby) should be off limits politically.

As for the Republicans using this as political points that is a ludicrious assertion.

Get real, if they knew this before she was selected , what makes you think that they didn't for one moment think it would'nt get out.

They knew it would get out...they didn't want it to get out this soon...especially knowing the liberal attack hounds were drooling to find SOMETHING to smear Gov. Palin with.

You are just way off base in your assertion.

annpea, your original post here is ridiculous. Did the Democrats also then just use Hillary Clinton in the same way and also Geraldine Ferraro?

Regardless, this was already known prior to her announcement as reporters in Alaska were already preparing to put out a story on this.

[Rhiannon]

So, some of you think that a teenage girl's pregnancy can be the deciding factor in the fate of our Nation? Bristol Palin probably only wishes she were that powerful. And if our citizens are unhinged enough to base voting practices on a teenage indiscretion, then they should have their voting rights revoked.

Some of us yes...the rest of us think it is a non issue and should be left alone and dealt with by the family privately.

Unfortunately there are those people (not neccessarily here) who won't do that and will use this as an opportunity to attack Gov. Palin and her family.

I agree with it being a non-issue and more specifically none of our business. And those who use this as an opportunity to attack Palin should be flogged. Repeatedly.

[conversationpc]

And those who use this as an opportunity to attack Palin should be flogged. Repeatedly.

I like your line of thinking. Public corporal punishment. I like it.

[annpea]

This, whole mess is bound to erupt, into a nightmare. For so many years there has been an ongoing battle to slow down the teen pregnancy rate; what the hell is going on here? we now have the GOP using it and a practically unknown female Gov. to try and win an election. It should be an insult to every female, that these crazy people would attempt to use a woman and her young daughter in such a manner just to get votes. The fact that this woman would sale out her child to the wolves, just to gain fifteen minutes of fame and set off a new wave of teenage parenting in this country at a time when we can least afford it emotionally, mentally and financially. What is this saying to our children? I would now rather sit on my vote than give it to a group of people who would stoop that low to get votes.

What the hell are you talking about? If you think the republicans WANTED this news to get out now you are out of your mind.

They are not using Sarah Palin or her daughter.

Obama was very much in the right and showed a ton of class when he said that it is a non issue and they should be left out of the political fray.

Now I know it won't stop the more rabid of the Democrat bloggers, and hasn't, but the kid (both the 17 year old and the coming baby) should be off limits politically.

As for the Republicans using this as political points that is a ludicrious assertion.

+1

Sorry I will go back and edit to add the baby as well! LOL

You, want to know what the hell I'm talking about? come and hold my hand while I am crying my heart out while holding a pregnant teens hand who's crying her heart out because unlike this fairytale that is going on at the moment, She doesn't have anyone standing behind her Not Mama, daddy, or the so called baby daddy(Who most likely uses the same line I've heard over and over again. want to take a guess at what that might be my friend) as a nurse i've heard it all and seen more. The average teen mother is uninformed, unaware,and unemployed unable to be a good mother on her own thus having to relie on the taxpayers for everything from food, medical care and housing. Now ask me again what the hell i am talking about, a signal is signal and to me this saying teen pregnancy is ok, if you just marry the boy, not gonna happen that easily in the real world my friend, a teenage boy barely knows himself leastwise how to be a father and a good provider.

[conversationpc]

Now ask me again what the hell i am talking about, a signal is signal and to me this saying teen pregnancy is ok, if you just marry the boy, not gonna happen that easily in the real world my friend, a teenage boy barely knows himself leastwise how to be a father and a good provider.

Who said it's okay? No one has.

[RossValoryRocks]

You, want to know what the hell I'm talking about? come and hold my hand while I am crying my heart out while holding a pregnant teens hand who's crying her heart out because unlike this fairytale that is going on at the moment, She doesn't have anyone standing behind her Not Mama, daddy, or the so called baby daddy(Who most likely uses the same line I've heard over and over again. want to take a guess at what that might be my friend) as a nurse i've heard it all and seen more. The average teen mother is uninformed, unaware,and unemployed unable to be a good mother on her own thus having to relie on the taxpayers for everything from food, medical care and housing. Now ask me again what the hell i am talking about, a signal is signal and to me this saying teen pregnancy is ok, if you just marry the boy, not gonna happen that easily in the real world my friend, a teenage boy barely knows himself leastwise how to be a father and a good provider.

I think her family will help her out with no problem. I really doubt that her daughter or the baby are going to suffer from the ills you mention. The only thing they are going to suffer is the attacks from mean spirited people who are looking to make some kind of political statement.

As for your comments quoted here...what does this have to do with Gov. Palin's fitness to be VP, or Republicans using her and the situation to political advantage. So far the only people I have seen trying to get political advantage are some far left, and far right wack jobs.