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Postby Barb » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:17 pm

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September 8, 2008
MSNBC Takes Incendiary Hosts From Anchor Seat
By BRIAN STELTER
MSNBC tried a bold experiment this year by putting two politically incendiary hosts, Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews, in the anchor chair to lead the cable news channel’s coverage of the election.

That experiment appears to be over.

After months of accusations of political bias and simmering animosity between MSNBC and its parent network NBC, the channel decided over the weekend that the NBC News correspondent and MSNBC host David Gregory would anchor news coverage of the coming debates and election night. Mr. Olbermann and Mr. Matthews will remain as analysts during the coverage.

The change — which comes in the home stretch of the long election cycle — is a direct result of tensions associated with the channel’s perceived shift to the political left.

“The most disappointing shift is to see the partisan attitude move from prime time into what’s supposed to be straight news programming,” said Davidson Goldin, formerly the editorial director of MSNBC and a co-founder of the reputation management firm DolceGoldin.

Executives at the channel’s parent company, NBC Universal, had high hopes for MSNBC’s coverage of the political conventions. Instead, the coverage frequently descended into on-air squabbles between the anchors, embarrassing some workers at NBC’s news division, and quite possibly alienating viewers. Although MSNBC nearly doubled its total audience compared with the 2004 conventions, its competitive position did not improve, as it remained in last place among the broadcast and cable news networks. In prime time, the channel averaged 2.2 million viewers during the Democratic convention and 1.7 million viewers during the Republican convention.

The success of the Fox News Channel in the past decade along with the growth of political blogs have convinced many media companies that provocative commentary attracts viewers and lures Web browsers more than straight news delivered dispassionately.

“In a rapidly changing media environment, this is the great philosophical debate,” Phil Griffin, the president of MSNBC, said in a telephone interview Saturday. Fighting the ratings game, he added, “the bottom line is that we’re experiencing incredible success.”

But as the past two weeks have shown, that success has a downside. When the vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin lamented media bias during her speech, attendees of the Republican convention loudly chanted “NBC.”

In interviews, 10 current and former staff members said that long-simmering tensions between MSNBC and NBC reached a boiling point during the conventions. “MSNBC is behaving like a heroin addict,” one senior staff member observed. “They’re living from fix to fix and swearing they’ll go into rehab the next week.”

The employee, like others, spoke on condition of anonymity because the network does not permit it people to speak to the media without authorization. (The New York Times and NBC News have a content-sharing arrangement exclusively for political coverage.)

Mr. Olbermann, a 49-year-old former sportscaster, has become the face of the more aggressive MSNBC, and the lightning rod for much of the criticism. His program “Countdown,” now a liberal institution, was created by Mr. Olbermann in 2003 but it found its voice in his gnawing dissent regarding the Bush administration, often in the form of “special comment” segments.

As Mr. Olbermann raised his voice, his ratings rose as well, and he now reaches more than one million viewers a night, a higher television rating than any other show in the troubled 12-year history of the network. As a result, his identity largely defines MSNBC. “They have banked the entirety of the network on Keith Olbermann,” one employee said.

In January, Mr. Olbermann and Mr. Matthews, the host of “Hardball,” began co-anchoring primary night coverage, drawing an audience that enjoyed the pair’s “SportsCenter”-style show. While some critics argued that the assignment was akin to having the Fox News commentator Bill O’Reilly anchor on election night — something that has never happened — MSNBC insisted that Mr. Olbermann knew the difference between news and commentary.

But in the past two weeks, that line has been blurred. On the final night of the Republican convention, after MSNBC televised the party’s video “tribute to the victims of 9/11,” including graphic footage of the World Trade Center attacks, Mr. Olbermann abruptly took off his journalistic hat.

“I’m sorry, it’s necessary to say this,” he began. After saying that the video had exploited the memories of the dead, he directly apologized to viewers who were offended. Then, sounding like a network executive, he said it was “probably not appropriate to be shown.”

In an interview on Sunday, Mr. Olbermann said that moment — and the perception that he is “not utterly neutral” — restarted months-old conversations about his role on political nights.

“I found it ironic and instructive that I could have easily said exactly what I did say, exactly when I did say it, if I had been wearing a different hat, and nobody would have taken any issue,” he said.

“Countdown” will still be shown before the three fall debates and a second edition will be shown sometime afterwards, following the program anchored by Mr. Gregory.

The change casts new doubt on what some staff members believe is an effective programming strategy: prime-time talk of a liberal sort. A like-minded talk show will now follow “Countdown” at 9 p.m.: “The Rachel Maddow Show,” hosted by the liberal radio host, begins Monday.

Mr. Griffin, MSNBC’s president, denies that it has an ideology. “I think ideology means we think one way, and we don’t,” he said. Rather than label MSNBC’s prime time as left-leaning, he says it has passion and point of view.

But MSNBC is the cable arm of NBC News, the dispassionate news division of NBC Universal. MSNBC, “Today” and “NBC Nightly News” share some staff members, workspace and content. And some critics are claiming they also share a political affiliation.

The McCain campaign has filed letters of complaint to the news division about its coverage and openly tied MSNBC to it. Tension between the network and the campaign hit an apex the day Mr. McCain announced Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. MSNBC had reported Friday morning that Ms. Palin’s plane was enroute to the announcement and she was likely the pick. But McCain campaign officials warned the network off, with one official going so far as to say that all of the candidates on the short list were on their way — which MSNBC then reported.

“The fact that it was reported in real time was very embarrassing,” said a senior MSNBC official. “We were told, ‘No, it’s not Sarah Palin and you don’t know who it is.’ ”

Tom Brokaw and Brian Williams, the past and present anchors of “NBC Nightly News,” have told friends and colleagues that they are finding it tougher and tougher to defend the cable arm of the news division, even while they anchored daytime hours of convention coverage on MSNBC and contributed commentary each evening.

Mr. Williams did not respond to a request for comment and Mr. Brokaw declined to comment. At a panel discussion in Denver, Mr. Brokaw acknowledged that Mr. Olbermann and Mr. Matthews had “gone too far” at times, but emphasized they were “not the only voices” on MSNBC, according to The Washington Post.

Al Hunt, the executive Washington bureau chief of Bloomberg News, said that the entire news division was being singled out by Republicans because of the work of partisans like Mr. Olbermann. “To go and tar the whole news network and Brokaw and Mitchell is grossly unfair,” he said, referring to the NBC correspondent Andrea Mitchell.

Some tensions have spilled out on-screen. On the first night in Denver, as the fellow MSNBC host Joe Scarborough talked about the resurgence of the McCain campaign, Mr. Olbermann dismissed it by saying: “Jesus, Joe, why don’t you get a shovel?”

The following night, Mr. Olbermann and his co-anchor for convention coverage, Mr. Matthews, had their own squabble after Mr. Olbermann observed that Mr. Matthews had talked too long.

Some staff members said the tension led to the network’s decision to keep Mr. Olbermann in New York for the Republican convention, after he ran the desk in Denver during the Democratic convention. MSNBC said that he stayed in New York to anchor coverage of Hurricane Gustav. But some workers say there were other reasons — namely, that Mr. Olbermann was concerned about his safety in St. Paul, given the loud crowds at MSNBC’s set in Denver.

NBC Universal executives are also known to be concerned about the perception that MSNBC’s partisan tilt in prime time is bleeding into the rest of the programming day. On a recent Friday afternoon, a graphic labeled “Breaking News” asked: “How many houses does Palin add to the Republican ticket?” Mr. Griffin called the graphic “an embarrassment.”

According to three staff members, Jeff Zucker, chief executive of NBC Universal, and Steve Capus, president of NBC News, considered flying to the Republican convention in Minnesota last week to address the lingering tensions.

Up to now, the company’s public support for MSNBC’s strategy has been enthusiastic. At an anniversary party for Mr. Olbermann in April, Mr. Zucker called “Countdown” “one of the signature brands of the entire company.”

Just last year, Mr. Olbermann signed a four-year, $4-million-a-year contract with MSNBC. NBC is close to supplementing that contract with Mr. Olbermann, extending his deal through 2013 — and ensuring that he will be on MSNBC through the next election.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:01 pm

This is sure to go a long way towards restoring credibility in the jaundiced eyes of those who claim ANY talking head, just by dint of showing up, is an ACLU charter member. Right? :roll:

Seriously, why bother?
Those dick wrangling about media bias won't quit until the last NBC control room engineer has been drawn and quartered.
Case in point: Dave has previously expressed misgivings about David Gregory - who is really about as mainline as they come (i.e. another compromised Beltway meat puppet).

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The altercations they cite in the article are weak beer. Most of them stemming from a clash of overfed egos and the pitfalls of live television rather than any single ideology. Chris Mathews might be “incendiary”, but between musing about Fred Thompson’s manly aqua velva musk and Bush’s sunny nobility, the last thing he is is liberal. Mathews was also effusive about Palin the other night, in fact.

Still, if only to extinguish a future conflict of interest, or the growing perception of one, this was the right call.
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Postby SteveForever » Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:20 pm

I am thrilled they removed Olbermann, his comments WERE offensive that night and I am one of the
ones that did send a complaint, well done! he abused his position on air.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:24 pm

SteveForever wrote:I am thrilled they removed Olbermann, his comments WERE offensive that night and I am one of the
ones that did send a complaint, well done! he abused his position on air.


In what way?
He wasn't even on the panel with the other "analysts" that night.
They were his thoughts, and reflected his alone.
Plenty of people were revolted by the RNC's monopolic use of 9-11 for political gain, as well they should be.
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Postby SteveForever » Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:26 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
SteveForever wrote:I am thrilled they removed Olbermann, his comments WERE offensive that night and I am one of the
ones that did send a complaint, well done! he abused his position on air.


In what way?
He wasn't even on the panel with the other "analysts" that night.
They were his thoughts, and reflected his alone.
Plenty of people were revolted by the RNC's monopolic use of 9-11 for political gain, as well they should be.


He had no right as a news anchor to tell the rest of the world watching what was appropriate, 9-11 happened, its recent history.
Is he offended when they show Vietnam clips or WW 2 clips?
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:40 pm

SteveForever wrote:He had no right as a news anchor to tell the rest of the world watching what was appropriate, 9-11 happened, its recent history.


If he felt it important enough to halt the show and comment, let him.
I've heard from plenty of people, some as apolitical as they come, who were equally appalled.

SteveForever wrote:Is he offended when they show Vietnam clips or WW 2 clips?


In a hyper-partisan forum where the thematic undertone of the night was "country first", this was total psyops porn.

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Postby SteveForever » Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:46 pm

Listen Noble Cause, you can slant it any way you wish, I was offended by Olbermann's comments and life
is based on perceptions. They need my suburbian mom vote as much as they need yours-which
in truth neither of our opinions really count since its already been decided by the heavies...
Olbermann was removed because even the execs. know he stepped over the line- advertisers don't pay the network
to offend the nation in news coverage.
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Postby conversationpc » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:25 pm

SteveForever wrote:I am thrilled they removed Olbermann, his comments WERE offensive that night and I am one of the
ones that did send a complaint, well done! he abused his position on air.


If you're an anchor, your job is to report the news, not to add your commentary to it. We all know Olbermann is liberal. If he can do his job as anchor with adding his normal, skewed view of the world, then great. Otherwise, step aside and let someone else who can do the job better take over.
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Postby Gin and Tonic Sky » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:29 pm

Even Tom Brokaw complained about how biased those were. If he complains about you being too liberal,you are way to liberal.
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Republican "fear mongering"

Postby infinityplusone » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:30 pm

I didn't find the video particularly offensive. Manipulative, blatantly propagandic.. but it didn't actually show bodies falling etc. No worse than any other "Elect Me" video.

Sure, the RNC has been using fear to win elections over the past 8 years, fine I'll buy into that. But let's be fair here. The liberal/democrat election playbook Rule#1 on this issue _has_ to be: The "tougher" the Republican candidate appears on terrorism, the more we have to say he's fear-mongering.

It goes both ways. People can tell when they're being manipulated. Just because you label someone a fear-mongerer, doesn't mean there's nothing to be afraid of.

"Fear" is a primal thing; it can easily be manipulated on all levels, with all subjects. Usually there's some truth in the middle.
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Postby Tito » Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:21 am

I caught the tail end of Olbermann's comments that night and I was like WTF is that. I can't believe the Breaking News; "How many houses does Palin add to the ticket" didn't get more attention. That's was horrible.
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Postby conversationpc » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:43 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Seriously, why bother?
Those dick wrangling about media bias won't quit until the last NBC control room engineer has been drawn and quartered.
Case in point: Dave has previously expressed misgivings about David Gregory - who is really about as mainline as they come (i.e. another compromised Beltway meat puppet).


As far as Gregory's political bent, who cares? If he can do the job of an anchor with adding his own commentary, then great. In that case, it doesn't matter if you're liberal, conservative, libertarian, or whatever, as long as you can remain unbiased or at least make it appear that you are unbiased.

Regardless, that's not the story here...The story here is that the emperor has finally realized that he hasn't been wearing any clothes now for quite awhile.
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Postby strangegrey » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:54 am

Olberman's a douchebag...and his comments were dispicable. Show some fucking respect for 9/11 survivors and victims! He should have been fired, not removed from an anchor chair, slapped on the wrist and sent back to his countdown idiocy.
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