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Postby wastingbeerz » Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:04 am

Enigma869 wrote:I would say I'm speechless, but I'm not suprised by these classless fucks! Fuck Pittsburgh!

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Doesn't surprise me one bit. Being from Pittsburgh, and not actually being a football fan myself, I really tend to notice how football sometimes has a tendency to bring out the real douche in people around here. Seriously, if you aren't a religious follower of the "Stillers" (as self-proclaimed "yinzers" like to translate Steelers into "Pittsburghese) around here, you're treated like you've got some horrible disease. Now don't get me wrong, I don't hate football, it just never really caught on to me, and I really don't understand the absolute insanity that it sometimes causes. But yeah, that shirt is pretty fucked up.
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Postby mikemarrs » Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:39 am

i think these are the top teams in AFC right now....

1.steelers
2.titans
3.patriots
4.broncos
5.bills
6.colts
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Postby Since 78 » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:03 am

mikemarrs wrote:i think these are the top teams in AFC right now....

1.steelers
2.titans
3.patriots
4.broncos
5.bills
6.colts


Losing Brett Keisel for three months is not a good thing for the Steelers. I'm waiting to see what happens against the Eagles this weekend.
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Postby Enigma869 » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:14 am

mikemarrs wrote:i think these are the top teams in AFC right now....

1.steelers
2.titans
3.patriots
4.broncos
5.bills
6.colts


I don't disagree with most of the teams...Just their placement.

1. Broncos - Much more explosive offense than Pittsburgh, from what I've watched in two weeks. Cutler might win the MVP, if he keeps playing like this!
2. Steelers - We'll have to see if Willie Parker can become a bit more consistent and if Big Ben's shoulder holds up, or they could fade fast.
3. Patriots - The only reason I even dare rank them in the top 3 is their easy schedule this season. They MUST win on defense this season, because Matt Cassel isn't winning any games on his own!
4. Titans - I like Tennessee much more with Kerry Collins at QB. I think Chris Johnson is a stud back, in the making, and they have a solid defense.
5. Colts - Wildly inconsistent and they should probably be 0-2. Anytime Peyton Manning is your QB, you have the potential to have an outstanding offense.

Honorable Mention - Buffalo - I suspect they won't be around when the season is over. Although they've looked reasonable, let's not lose sight of the fact that the two teams they beat are 0-4.


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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:39 pm

It's so hard to pick a best after Week 2..which I think is harder to pick than lets say a week one power ranking. You really don't know what your getting from a team just yet but you have a better understanding of this years product. Some teams are still a question of being a pretender or a contender.

Contenders:

Buffalo Bills- Yes, they feasted 2 weeks in a row on some severely beat up teams in Seattle and Jacksonville.. they came back after being down against JAX in their house which happens to be a hard place to visit. Nonetheless, they are playing well and are hungry.

Pittsburgh Steelers- Again, a team that won it's first two games against 2 teams that haven't made the playoffs in years or even in this era. Still, they beat two teams that were talked up hard who have the weapons to beat anyone in this league, and one who is a rival in the division.. on the road in bad conditions. The Steelers must show more this week against what I think would be the toughest test of the season..against the Philadelphia Eagles.

New England Patriots- Clearly a team that looked totally different but at the same time had glimpses of the dominating team of last year. Did some good things against the Jets and is asking Cassel to do no more than to just manage the game and to just not lose it. the Jets had PLENTY of opportunities to put NE in their place, but with bad coaching in tight situations, it cost them..leaving N.E to do what they have been doing since '01. WIN. Until someone can beat this team they will be a contender. ( A pubic hair away of being a pretender.)

Denver Broncos- The team who has one of the NFL's bright and upcoming stars.. Jay Cutler. This guy has a ROCKET of an arm and this is his year to open some eyes since it IS his third year in the league. Made some bonehead decisions near the goaline last week and should of cost his team the game both times with an INT and FUMBLE but we all know how that went. A team riding high at 2-0 which could of easily been a displeasing 1-1 in a matter of seconds.

San Diego Chargers- 0-2 after some high style and pro foulin' last second losses on the final play.. a team that was victimized at the end of the Denver game where 1-1 should look a helluva lot better than 0-2. Still, at 0-2 and with a Division that is hurting right now with Jax, a pretender in Tenn, and Indy losing it's flashiness.. I still like this teams chances at the end of the year. They will re-bound with a vengeance..just like last year.. it's in place for them to do so.

Pretenders:

Tennessee Titans- Defense is looking mean but there's something about that offense and the thought of Kerry Collins (or Vince Young for that matter) taking this team far down the stretch, doesn't seem realistic to me, and I'm not buying it.

New York Jets- They have a coach that's nicknamed "Mangenius" They go out and snag one of the best players to ever play the Quarterback position in Brett Favre..but yet...not utilize him in a games most demanding area. They brought Brett Favre in FOR THIS MATTER...to score touchdowns. Mangini was simply intimidated and out coached by running 3 straight running plays at the goaline against N.E where a TD would of gave them a impressive lead on an impressive drive. Mangini was a coward under this circumstance and he will NEVER beat N.E if he coaches a game like the one he did Sunday. Let Favre loose..that's why he's there.

Indianapolis Colts- Was smashed by a mediocre Bears team in Week 1, and had to pull something straight out of their ass thanks to Peyton Manning. Manning looks timid and slow, and appears to look rusty. He had ZERO running game behind him and that receiving core isn't what it use to be. Playing in one of the toughest divisions in football, Indy looks nowhere to being a threat. They will not be able to withstand a full 16-game season playing like they did in the first 2 games. San Diego should take that division.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:05 am

Favre's shot, can't do it anymore.

Sunday he looked like a dude who refused to bother looking at the playbook and was drawing plays up in the dirt.

Had the arm before to overcome his boneheaded tendencies, but as with the last 4-5 years, the arm's now more of a popgun and he looks ridiculous.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:08 am

You're all gonna regret writing the Browns off too early......






I hope :cry:
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Postby Vocalsmanvocals » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:18 am

3 things the Bears need to work on:

I hope Lovie is running tackling drills with the defense this week in practice.

Making sure the receivers do not drop passes. (Cough cough...R.Davis...the import from arnea football)

Give Matt Forte the ball when the game is on the line...this guy runs over defenses!
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Postby Enigma869 » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:25 am

Vocalsmanvocals wrote:3 things the Bears need to work on:

I hope Lovie is running tackling drills with the defense this week in practice.

Making sure the receivers do not drop passes. (Cough cough...R.Davis...the import from arnea football)

Give Matt Forte the ball when the game is on the line...this guy runs over defenses!



I definitely agree with your premise on Forte. The guy looks good, and he definitely needs to become more involved with the Chicago offense. As for their defense...I wouldn't worry too much about that. They were a bit shaky last season, but have looked pretty good so far. If the Bears win, it will definitely be on defense. Their offense, as always, will be an afterthought.


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Postby Vocalsmanvocals » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:32 am

Enigma869 wrote:
Vocalsmanvocals wrote:3 things the Bears need to work on:

I hope Lovie is running tackling drills with the defense this week in practice.

Making sure the receivers do not drop passes. (Cough cough...R.Davis...the import from arnea football)

Give Matt Forte the ball when the game is on the line...this guy runs over defenses!



I definitely agree with your premise on Forte. The guy looks good, and he definitely needs to become more involved with the Chicago offense. As for their defense...I wouldn't worry too much about that. They were a bit shaky last season, but have looked pretty good so far. If the Bears win, it will definitely be on defense. Their offense, as always, will be an afterthought.


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Now with Forte, the Bears should be able to control the ball now that they have a quality RB. Fore is a great blocker, cuts well, and can just run over people. All Orton has to do is manage the game and not turn the ball over..which he has done well so far. I expect the Bears to have low scoring games all season long. The Bears defense made several mistackles in the Panthers game. Against the Colts, they were flawless so I do expect the Bears to bounce back..All the way to the Superbowl! O ya!
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Postby Vocalsmanvocals » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:34 am

Ehwmatt wrote:You're all gonna regret writing the Browns off too early......






I hope :cry:


Which QB do the Browns fans like more...Anderson or Quinn?
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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:54 am

Vocalsmanvocals wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:You're all gonna regret writing the Browns off too early......






I hope :cry:


Which QB do the Browns fans like more...Anderson or Quinn?


All Anderson is doing is putting his resume in for other teams for the next years to come. We will see Quinn very soon.. the money is invested in him.
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Postby Luvsaugeri » Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:42 am

Vocalsmanvocals wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:You're all gonna regret writing the Browns off too early......






I hope :cry:


Which QB do the Browns fans like more...Anderson or Quinn?


I think most fans are just waiting for Quinn.

My personal opinion is that Anderson WAY overplayed last year. I think he is just a mediocre back up at best.
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Postby Enigma869 » Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:01 am

I said it last year, and I'll say it again...MANY NFL quarterbacks have had one great season. I wasn't sold on Derek Anderson last season and I'm still not sold on him. Cleveland has two stud players...Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow. They need a ton of help, at many other positions!

On another note...you Vikings fans won't be looking at Tavaris Jackson for the rest of the season. The immortal Gus Frerotte has just been named the Vikings' starter, for the remainder of the season.


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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:05 am

I told people before last season was even done that DA had not sold himself to me at all. He happened to catch a hot streak for 5-6 games in the middle of the season behind a killer O-line and a ridiculous receiving core. He has no short game, no mobility, and seems to choke in the clutch (played terrible when the playoffs were on the line vs the Bengals last year). So I'm all for getting the green outta Quinn as quick as possible.

As far as the browns only having Winslow and Edwards, that's a pretty ridiculous comment. Jamal Lewis, Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach, Donte Stallworth, Shaun Rogers, and even Jurevicius are all excellent players. Our secondary is pretty shitty still, but things will get better. Our new D-line is not playing up to its potential either - Corey Williams is struggling with the adjustment to our system. Once that jives our run defense will be much improved (it was shit vs the Steelers and Cowboys). Injuries are also killing us right now - once things come together I think we will be a wild card team.
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Postby Enigma869 » Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:17 am

Ehwmatt wrote:As far as the browns only having Winslow and Edwards, that's a pretty ridiculous comment. Jamal Lewis, Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach, Donte Stallworth, Shaun Rogers, and even Jurevicius are all excellent players.



Dude...take off your shit-colored brown glasses and smell some Febreze :shock: Jamal Lewis is old and washed up. The guy is a very average player and hasn't been an above average player since his heyday with Baltimore. Jurevicius is a 3rd wide receiver at best, and is never healthy enough to play football. Don't tell me about Donte Stallworth. That guy sucked even when he had Tom Brady throwing him the football! As for Joe Thomas...offensive linemen don't count!


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Postby Luvsaugeri » Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:31 am

Ehwmatt wrote:I told people before last season was even done that DA had not sold himself to me at all. He happened to catch a hot streak for 5-6 games in the middle of the season behind a killer O-line and a ridiculous receiving core. He has no short game, no mobility, and seems to choke in the clutch (played terrible when the playoffs were on the line vs the Bengals last year). So I'm all for getting the green outta Quinn as quick as possible.



I totally agree. His accuracy sucks. I think the DA we saw in the 2nd half of last season is the true DA. And while we are on this topic.....IMO they can get rid of Romeo Crennel any time and it would make me happy. I think he sucks!!
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:40 am

Enigma869 wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:As far as the browns only having Winslow and Edwards, that's a pretty ridiculous comment. Jamal Lewis, Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach, Donte Stallworth, Shaun Rogers, and even Jurevicius are all excellent players.



Dude...take off your shit-colored brown glasses and smell some Febreze :shock: Jamal Lewis is old and washed up. The guy is a very average player and hasn't been an above average player since his heyday with Baltimore. Jurevicius is a 3rd wide receiver at best, and is never healthy enough to play football. Don't tell me about Donte Stallworth. That guy sucked even when he had Tom Brady throwing him the football! As for Joe Thomas...offensive linemen don't count!


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5th most rushing yards in the league last year? Old and washed up, sure. He's a slow game starter, I'll give u that. But he's not "very average" by any stretch.

And O linemen don't count? You think Tom Brady would be any better than Tim Couch if he had Tim Couch's line? It's like a bass player, you don't miss 'em til they're gone :shock:
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:41 am

Luvsaugeri wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:I told people before last season was even done that DA had not sold himself to me at all. He happened to catch a hot streak for 5-6 games in the middle of the season behind a killer O-line and a ridiculous receiving core. He has no short game, no mobility, and seems to choke in the clutch (played terrible when the playoffs were on the line vs the Bengals last year). So I'm all for getting the green outta Quinn as quick as possible.



I totally agree. His accuracy sucks. I think the DA we saw in the 2nd half of last season is the true DA. And while we are on this topic.....IMO they can get rid of Romeo Crennel any time and it would make me happy. I think he sucks!!


Crennel is a bonehead, that's for sure. I don't hate him, but I don't love him. I hate Mike Brown more. Wish the Cavs would get rid of that fake.
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Postby Enigma869 » Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:56 am

Ehwmatt wrote:5th most rushing yards in the league last year? Old and washed up, sure.


Right, and there were another 5 guys within 100 yards of Lewis. Lewis had an okay season last season, but I stand by my comment that he is old and washed up!


Ehwmatt wrote: But he's not "very average" by any stretch.


You're right about that, based on this season. He isn't ranked in the top 25 in league rushing, and averaging a putrid 3 yards per carry! Calling him "very average" is doing a huge disservice to guys who are very average!

Ehwmatt wrote:And O linemen don't count?


I said offensive lineman don't count as "stud" players. I played offensive line for many years, so I'm quite sure that I understand the significance of the position!

Ehwmatt wrote:You think Tom Brady would be any better than Tim Couch if he had Tim Couch's line?


You can't be serious??? What a moronic fucking statement to make. You seriously beleive the only difference between a stiff like Couch and Brady is the offensive line?? You have proven, with that statement, that you know absolutely NOTHING about football! Offensive lines matter, and matter a lot. That said, Brady isn't going to the hall of fame, because of his offensive line, dope!


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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:23 am

Ehwmatt wrote:I told people before last season was even done that DA had not sold himself to me at all. He happened to catch a hot streak for 5-6 games in the middle of the season behind a killer O-line and a ridiculous receiving core. He has no short game, no mobility, and seems to choke in the clutch (played terrible when the playoffs were on the line vs the Bengals last year). So I'm all for getting the green outta Quinn as quick as possible.

As far as the browns only having Winslow and Edwards, that's a pretty ridiculous comment. Jamal Lewis, Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach, Donte Stallworth, Shaun Rogers, and even Jurevicius are all excellent players. Our secondary is pretty shitty still, but things will get better. Our new D-line is not playing up to its potential either - Corey Williams is struggling with the adjustment to our system. Once that jives our run defense will be much improved (it was shit vs the Steelers and Cowboys). Injuries are also killing us right now - once things come together I think we will be a wild card team.


Jamal Lewis is ATLEAST 3 years past his prime. This is a player who spent his career inside the AFC NORTH division and while he was in Baltimore.. he gave a team like the Steelers headaches and was clearly a bruising back who you had to fear and keep your eyes in the backfield.

Not no more. I wouldn't say he is washed up since he's rushed for over a thousand 5 out of the last 6 years and having that stellar year in '03. Rushing for 62 yards in 13 attempts against Dallas and 38 yards in 19 attempts against Pittsburgh (averaging out to be around 2.5 yards per carry.. ) and to run behind what is said to be an above average line, won't cut it against solid teams.

Last year his success mainly came against weak D-lines who could of been taken advantage of. The Browns surely have talent on their team...but which team doesn't? It's about using that talent off paper and putting it on the game field..something Clev has NEVER done since they came back into the league in '99. Players like Donte Stallworth and Shaun Rogers are a sorry excuse of making their team look better on paper when realistically the players will fall victim of the complete SHIT organization and coaching staff Clev will always be remembered for. (Art Modell picked up and left over night for a reason.. and he won a SB in the process!!)
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