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Postby finalfight » Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:28 pm

RockitRide wrote:I doubt Arnel will give up the Journey gig. However, he has effectively had his ticket punched. He could easily become the biggest star in Asia if he found a great song writer and launched a solo career. He could tour the "neighborhood" for another ten years and not be too far fom family. He could also set his own schedule. Journey may have to up the ante to keep him onboard. They owe this guy a lot for their new found success.


As much as I like him and despite his superior vocal ability there is no way Arnel would ever be as big as the singer Rain in Asia or even Andy Lau for that matter.
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Postby finalfight » Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:34 pm

Having just read the full interview it is very clear that there are an awful lot of misconceptions floating around this thread. The whole actually sounded positive and honest to me and certainly no cause for alarm -

* Sad 'Journey' for New Singer

In Issue 1062 Rolling Stone spoke to Arnel Pineda about what seems like the dream gig of a lifetime: going on tour with Journey after being plucked from obscurity when the band caught him singing "Faithfully" on YouTube. Here's more of our conversation with the 41-year-old Filipino vocalist, as he opens up about the hardships of the road and how he learned about landing the job.

How's the tour going? It's gotta be a blast playing to such gigantic crowds.

Yeah, it is, it is. For an Asian guy like me, to be in a band, you know it's so surreal. It's some sort of a miracle it happened to me. It changed my life, overnight. Everything hasn't sunk in yet.

Do you remember the first time you heard Journey's music?
Oh, I think I was 10 or 11 years old. I think the first song I learned about then was "Open Arms." Then when I got tired of listening to "Open Arms" I borrowed my friend's Journey album, Escape, and tried to listen to every song. Basically I learned "Stone in Love," "Don't Stop Believin'," "Who's Crying Now" — that album. Journey are very big in the Philippines.

Your old band the Zoo used to cover Journey, right?
Just once every six months. When me and my guitar player went back to the Philippines from Hong Kong to form the Zoo there was this guy who remembered me singing Journey songs in the Eighties. So he yelled out the song "Faithfully," so we [played it], and then they recorded it, and those were one of the videos that were uploaded on YouTube.

So how were you first contacted by Journey?

When Neal Schon discovered the videos on YouTube, he tried to find my friend's e-mail address, so he found it and he sent him an e-mail claiming that he's Mr. Neal Schon and he's from Journey and he's serious about getting me to San Francisco to try out as their frontman. When my friend forwarded the e-mail to me, I was just laughing. I just told him that this is one of the biggest jokes I have ever received from someone. "It's a hoax," I tell him. "You shouldn't believe it."

But my friend insisted that, "Why don't you just try replying? Maybe he's really Neal Schon." But I told him that Neal Schon is one of the biggest guitar players in the world. I don't think he will ever waste his time for me. But my friend is a very persistent guy. So I e-mailed Neal Schon back and after 10 minutes he called me. But then he had to convince me that he was really Neal Schon, because I was asking him about his identity.

What kind of questions?
Like, "Are you really Neal Schon?" I was trying to challenge him to go Webcam to Webcam conversation through Yahoo! Messenger, because I told him, "I know very well the face of Neal Schon. You have to show your face so I can believe you." And then he was laughing hard and he was telling me, "Believe me, my friend. This is Neal Schon and I'm serious about me offering you to audition for my band."

After a while I felt his sincerity, so I gave in and then we exchanged numbers and I told him that we just released an album in the Philippines and we have a manager so it may be a bit of a problem. So [he spoke to my manager] and then we had an agreement that they're gonna help me find a way to process my application for a visa to get to San Francisco, and the rest was history.

Tell me about first meeting the band and your first audition.

Well I was in awe. I was star-struck, because, you know, my God, in the flesh. Real life, real time, I get to see them, I get to shake their hands ... And I was very nervous. It was nerve-wracking because, for the first time, I'm gonna sing with one of the most popular, the best bands in the world. It was lots of tremendous mixed emotion.

How did they tell you that you had the job?
Mr. Neal Schon broke it to me, the good news. I was in a hotel, he picked me up, and then he told me. I was on my way downstairs and he told me, "You got the job, boy."

Can you explain to me the sensation of walking onstage in front of all those people for the first time?

It's very scary. I was so terrified. I was just very, very afraid. Two minutes before we hit the stage, I told them that I just want to back out. But Neal Schon told me, "No. It's too late now. You can't back out anymore." So there I go. He pushed me a little, like, kiddingly, "Go. Go. Sing for us."

And how's the tour been so far? Are you more comfortable onstage now?
I am quite comfortable with the stage now, but, for me, it's still a very grueling tour. I haven't done this before. I may have done an every-night gig in Hong Kong because I was there for almost 16 years, and in Manila, Philippines, I did gigs there. After the gig, you get to go home to the same place and same house, but here, it's like ... you know? You get to experience disrupted sleep ... You get to sleep a couple of hours in the bus and then they wake you up and then you need to try to sleep back in the hotel, and then they wake you up ... two o'clock in the afternoon to do sound check, and then you have to wait there until nine o'clock.

So it's very hectic. It's very stressful. It's a very, very challenging job. It's a fantastic job, but at the same time it's a curse. Trying to fill up very, very big shoes.

It has got to be fun, on tour, to be seeing the whole country, right?

Oh, I never get to enjoy them because, it's all buses, stage, microphone, hotel rooms. I never really get to go around and walk out and just see the place. I have off days, but I would prefer resting.

It has got to be lonely at times without your family.

It is. It is very, very sad. There are days I would break down and cry. But, you know. I just have to be man enough to face that this is a job I'm doing for my family. That's all the consolation that I'm getting. That's the only thought.

It's got to be fun to be onstage, though, and see all these huge crowds.

Yeah, it is. Of course. Until now ... I still feel I'm wondering, "Why am I here with these very famous guys onstage every night?" I'm still like, "Wow, this is not really happening." But it is, you know. It's a wonderful feeling, but at the same time, it's scary. I'm just trying to enjoy it while it lasts.

Do you think it's going to be done some day? Do you think maybe you'll quit if it's too much touring?
Well, I personally told Mr. Neal Schon that the only thing that will make me quit is if I get sick. If I can't do it anymore, then I just need to go. I guess that's the same reason Steve Perry bailed out.

The guys are good to me, so with that part I have no problem. But it's just with the tour. The schedule is so grueling for me. It's so new to me. Until now, my body hasn't really adjusted to all of these amazing things that have been happening.

But the tour is done in a few weeks, right?
It will be over around October 5th.

Then you go home, right?
Yeah, but only for a short time and then I think they're planning to go out again second week of November for another three-week tour and then, yeah, Christmas-time.

So is this not all the fun that you thought it would be?
When Neal Schon told me I had the gig I already thought how hard it was gonna be, the touring and everything. I knew then. That's why I told my manager back then, "I think I can't do this."

Right, but you're doing it.
Yeah. One day at a time.
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Postby Jana » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:42 pm

FinalFlight, that new unedited portion came out later in the thread. A lot of this thread was responding to the "Sad Journey" article that was taken from the Q & A and was slanted negatively. I'm still mad about such a misleading title Sad Journey and Curse in the title, when , clearly, after reading the Q & A, he was talking about fantastic job and a curse filling such big shoes, meaning Steve Perry's. That writer should be ashamed of himself. That's all I've got to say. I hope the Q & A is in the actual printed magazine, too, and not just on the internet part of Rolling Stone.







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Postby strangegrey » Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:19 pm

Tito wrote:Neal is a good father.



What makes you qualified to make such a blanket statement?! The only information available to any of us here in the forums suggests quite the contrary. How is it that you are making this statement? What support do you have for this statement?
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Postby finalfight » Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:45 pm

Jana wrote:FinalFlight, that new unedited portion came out later in the thread. A lot of this thread was responding to the "Sad Journey" article that was taken from the Q & A and was slanted negatively. I'm stilled mad about such a misleading title Sad Journey and Curse in the title, when , clearly, after reading the Q & A, he was talking about fantastic job and a curse filling such big shoes, meaning Steve Perry's. That writer should be ashamed of himself. That's all I've got to say. I hope the Q & A is in the actual printed magazine, too, and not just on the internet part of Rolling Stone.


That makes sense. What a douche journalist.
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Postby Greg » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:15 am

strangegrey wrote:
Tito wrote:Neal is a good father.



What makes you qualified to make such a blanket statement?! The only information available to any of us here in the forums suggests quite the contrary. How is it that you are making this statement? What support do you have for this statement?


He doesn't. Tito just likes saying that because has nothing better to do. :lol:
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Postby Jana » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:19 am

Well, at least, Tito didn't say Neal had been a good husband. :lol: :lol:






OCCUPATION: NEAL SCHON'S FUTURE EX-WIFE IN TRAINING :P
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Postby JH'sTXfan » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:01 am

Arnel wrote:I am quite comfortable with the stage now, but, for me, it's still a very grueling tour. I haven't done this before. I may have done an every-night gig in Hong Kong because I was there for almost 16 years, and in Manila, Philippines, I did gigs there. After the gig, you get to go home to the same place and same house, but here, it's like ... you know? You get to experience disrupted sleep ... You get to sleep a couple of hours in the bus and then they wake you up and then you need to try to sleep back in the hotel, and then they wake you up ... two o'clock in the afternoon to do sound check, and then you have to wait there until nine o'clock.

Arnel wrote:The guys are good to me, so with that part I have no problem. But it's just with the tour. The schedule is so grueling for me. It's so new to me. Until now, my body hasn't really adjusted to all of these amazing things that have been happening.


RobbieG, does this answer your question? :wink:
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Postby Arkansas » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:02 am

strangegrey wrote:
Tito wrote:Neal is a good father.



What makes you qualified to make such a blanket statement?! The only information available to any of us here in the forums suggests quite the contrary. How is it that you are making this statement? What support do you have for this statement?


I read this as tongue-in-cheek, in that NS is a father figure to AP.
Found him, got him into the country...called him 'boy'...gave his 'boy' a job...takes care of his 'boy' on the road.


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Postby Arkansas » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:07 am

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7 Wishes wrote:That's right, Gen X! They're called RECORDS because they are RECORDINGS!

You don't RECORD a CD, you record an album.


I don't get why some people seem to think that "album" is not an appropriate word for it. All album means is "collection of". In this case, it's a collection of songs. A CD is simply the medium that the album is recorded on.


Long a pet peeve of mine - when people say albums were only vinyl LPs.
A record is just short for a recording. Bands electronically make records. Athletes write records.
A CD is just a medium, no real difference from acetates, LPs, 8tracks, cassettes, etc.
Btw, your iPod is an album - it's your collection, just like a photo album.


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Postby 7 Wishes » Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:37 am

I think that given the context of the entire article, this whole thread should be put to rest.

Rolling Stone is up to their usual tricks...
But around town, it was well known...when they got home at night
Their fat and psychopathic wives
Would thrash them within inches of their lives!
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Postby finalfight » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:09 am

7 Wishes wrote:I think that given the context of the entire article, this whole thread should be put to rest.

Rolling Stone is up to their usual tricks...


You would hope so but this thing has very ugly legs.

The interview has just been posted up on Blabbermouth in an even more chopped and screwed edit than before -

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbe ... mID=105242

As a result Arnel is getting some very harsh criticism in the feedback.
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Postby Jana » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:36 am

FINALFIGHT STATED:

You would hope so but this thing has very ugly legs.

The interview has just been posted up on Blabbermouth in an even more chopped and screwed edit than before -

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbe ... mID=105242

As a result Arnel is getting some very harsh criticism in the feedback."


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I agree with you, FinalFight, thanks to National Enquirer -- I mean, Rolling Stone's fair and balanced article. Neal and Jon can't be too happy. Eventually it will run its course.
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Postby Shadowsong » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:55 am

Since when did Rolling Stone get to be a Soap Rag!

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Postby stevew2 » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:06 am

Jana wrote:FinalFlight, that new unedited portion came out later in the thread. A lot of this thread was responding to the "Sad Journey" article that was taken from the Q & A and was slanted negatively. I'm still mad about such a misleading title Sad Journey and Curse in the title, when , clearly, after reading the Q & A, he was talking about fantastic job and a curse filling such big shoes, meaning Steve Perry's. That writer should be ashamed of himself. That's all I've got to say. I hope the Q & A is in the actual printed magazine, too, and not just on the internet part of Rolling Stone.







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Postby stevew2 » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:09 am

Tito wrote:Neal is a good father.
Neal has a short weiner just like you Tito
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Postby Tito » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:51 am

strangegrey wrote:
Tito wrote:Neal is a good father.



What makes you qualified to make such a blanket statement?! The only information available to any of us here in the forums suggests quite the contrary. How is it that you are making this statement? What support do you have for this statement?


Exhibit A - Miles Schon is a good kid.
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Postby Tito » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:52 am

Jana wrote:Well, at least, Tito didn't say Neal had been a good husband. :lol: :lol:






OCCUPATION: NEAL SCHON'S FUTURE EX-WIFE IN TRAINING :P


He tries.
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Postby stevew2 » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:22 am

Tito wrote:
Jana wrote:Well, at least, Tito didn't say Neal had been a good husband. :lol: :lol:






OCCUPATION: NEAL SCHON'S FUTURE EX-WIFE IN TRAINING :P


He tries.
he tries every chance he gets {if ya know what i mean}
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Postby Escape Artist » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:53 am

This article should have never been chopped up like that. Typical BS from rolling stone. Arnel is a very honest and dare I say sensitive person, he says it like it is, in no way does this Q&A come across negative in it's un edited version. Hang in there Arnel you are the man!
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:55 am

Tito wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
Tito wrote:Neal is a good father.



What makes you qualified to make such a blanket statement?! The only information available to any of us here in the forums suggests quite the contrary. How is it that you are making this statement? What support do you have for this statement?


Exhibit A - Miles Schon is a good kid.

:lol:
I'm sure you're right and I'm sure his mother had a GREAT deal to do with that
while daddy'o was on the road......it's cute though!! Good to see your Journey lovin'
self back!!! :wink:
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Postby stevew2 » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:58 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
Tito wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
Tito wrote:Neal is a good father.



What makes you qualified to make such a blanket statement?! The only information available to any of us here in the forums suggests quite the contrary. How is it that you are making this statement? What support do you have for this statement?


Exhibit A - Miles Schon is a good kid.

:lol:
I'm sure you're right and I'm sure his mother had a GREAT deal to do with that
while daddy'o was on the road......it's cute though!! Good to see your Journey lovin'
self back!!! :wink:
I second that, welcome back Tito you moron lol
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Postby journel » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:01 am

after reading the whole article. AP is in it for the long haul and will become an american or at least a green card holder in a couple of years! :D
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Postby Tito » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:20 am

Andrew wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Jeremey wrote:This is exactly a lot of what I had to fear...when a band member tells you that kids don't need their dad until their at least 4 or 5 years old, that's a real red flag.


Wow. I must say that I have the absolute privilage of working from home and have had the profound joy of seeing btoh my first 2 kids take their first crawl and their first steps and haven't missed one birthday, special event or part of their development. And I'm richer in spirit for that.

I can relate to Arnel and your good self Jeremey 100%. My sincere best wishes to Arnel and his family for the rest of the tour.


Andrew, like you...I've had the same good fortune to watch my kids grow up. Quiting the web business in 04, returning to school, and pursuing a new career over the past 4 years has given me alot more time at home...and that has allowed me to watch my son grow up to almost 6 and my daughter to grow to almost 3. I wouldn't have missed this for a lead guitarist spot in Journey, Van Halen, Whitesnake, etc....


Yeah...me either Frank. So much bloody work, but endless joy too (except at 4am this morning when my 8 week old decided it was time to kick about and have a laugh...)

Love the new sig!


Not singling you two out, but I laugh how no one in this thread says they're glad to spend the extra time with the wife. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby stevew2 » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:23 am

Tito wrote:
Andrew wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Jeremey wrote:This is exactly a lot of what I had to fear...when a band member tells you that kids don't need their dad until their at least 4 or 5 years old, that's a real red flag.


Wow. I must say that I have the absolute privilage of working from home and have had the profound joy of seeing btoh my first 2 kids take their first crawl and their first steps and haven't missed one birthday, special event or part of their development. And I'm richer in spirit for that.

I can relate to Arnel and your good self Jeremey 100%. My sincere best wishes to Arnel and his family for the rest of the tour.


Andrew, like you...I've had the same good fortune to watch my kids grow up. Quiting the web business in 04, returning to school, and pursuing a new career over the past 4 years has given me alot more time at home...and that has allowed me to watch my son grow up to almost 6 and my daughter to grow to almost 3. I wouldn't have missed this for a lead guitarist spot in Journey, Van Halen, Whitesnake, etc....


Yeah...me either Frank. So much bloody work, but endless joy too (except at 4am this morning when my 8 week old decided it was time to kick about and have a laugh...)

Love the new sig!


Not singling you two out, but I laugh how no one in this thread says they're glad to spend the extra time with the wife. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Tito » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:31 am

stevew2 wrote:
Tito wrote:
Andrew wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Jeremey wrote:This is exactly a lot of what I had to fear...when a band member tells you that kids don't need their dad until their at least 4 or 5 years old, that's a real red flag.


Wow. I must say that I have the absolute privilage of working from home and have had the profound joy of seeing btoh my first 2 kids take their first crawl and their first steps and haven't missed one birthday, special event or part of their development. And I'm richer in spirit for that.

I can relate to Arnel and your good self Jeremey 100%. My sincere best wishes to Arnel and his family for the rest of the tour.


Andrew, like you...I've had the same good fortune to watch my kids grow up. Quiting the web business in 04, returning to school, and pursuing a new career over the past 4 years has given me alot more time at home...and that has allowed me to watch my son grow up to almost 6 and my daughter to grow to almost 3. I wouldn't have missed this for a lead guitarist spot in Journey, Van Halen, Whitesnake, etc....


Yeah...me either Frank. So much bloody work, but endless joy too (except at 4am this morning when my 8 week old decided it was time to kick about and have a laugh...)

Love the new sig!


Not singling you two out, but I laugh how no one in this thread says they're glad to spend the extra time with the wife. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby conversationpc » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:11 am

Tito wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
Tito wrote:Neal is a good father.



What makes you qualified to make such a blanket statement?! The only information available to any of us here in the forums suggests quite the contrary. How is it that you are making this statement? What support do you have for this statement?


Exhibit A - Miles Schon is a good kid.


Kids can turn out okay despite their parents and vice versa.
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Postby stevew2 » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:13 am

conversationpc wrote:
Tito wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
Tito wrote:Neal is a good father.



What makes you qualified to make such a blanket statement?! The only information available to any of us here in the forums suggests quite the contrary. How is it that you are making this statement? What support do you have for this statement?


Exhibit A - Miles Schon is a good kid.


Kids can turn out okay despite their parents and vice versa.
Thats a real good point
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Postby conversationpc » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:23 am

stevew2 wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Tito wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
Tito wrote:Neal is a good father.



What makes you qualified to make such a blanket statement?! The only information available to any of us here in the forums suggests quite the contrary. How is it that you are making this statement? What support do you have for this statement?


Exhibit A - Miles Schon is a good kid.


Kids can turn out okay despite their parents and vice versa.
Thats a real good point


Exactly...Take me, for instance..........Well, maybe that's not such a good example. :lol: :wink:
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Postby strangegrey » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:03 am

Tito wrote:
strangegrey wrote:
Tito wrote:Neal is a good father.



What makes you qualified to make such a blanket statement?! The only information available to any of us here in the forums suggests quite the contrary. How is it that you are making this statement? What support do you have for this statement?


Exhibit A - Miles Schon is a good kid.


Bullocks! First, you have zero proof of that as well. You're just *assuming* he is because he's not been notably arrested for kiddy porn or gang rape. But even without such information of a criminal record or even a suggestion that he's a not a good kid, you're *assuming* he is.

However, let's ride with your assumption and assume for a few seconds that he *is* a good kid. I defy you to try to prove, using logical methods, that "Good Kid" exclusively happens as a result of "Good Father" and there's no other way for "Good Kid" to happen. Good luck proving such a rediculous line of logic. There are plenty of "Good Kids" out there that have had absentee, douchebag fathers, who barely involved themselves with the upbringing of their children....save for an allimony check here or there....and the kid grew up to be a good kid, due to other factors....
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